I wonder if one community (everstream) is an asset or hinder to getting u-verse...  in this video Lev Goneck made it clear that everstream (for profit) gigabit service is for medium sized and larger companies...

 

not sure if this has been posted before.... Forbes does a story on 15 emerging downtowns....  Cleveland's downtown comes in third behind NYC and close behind Dallas in spending....

 

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mhj45eddgl/cleveland-ohio/

Looks like the 3rd district police HQ had it's topping off ceremony recently. I'm guessing that's what that building was, I can't remember hearing about anything else going up in that part of town. A tree was standing next to a flag on top of some steel a block or so north of Euclid just before 55th this morning.

Looks like the 3rd district police HQ had it's topping off ceremony recently. I'm guessing that's what that building was, I can't remember hearing about anything else going up in that part of town. A tree was standing next to a flag on top of some steel a block or so north of Euclid just before 55th this morning.

 

Yes, that's the 3rd District police station -- on Chester just west of East 55th and the railroad overpass.

^Whats the building on Payne around 22 St then? I thought that was 3d District HQ.

^Whats the building on Payne around 22 St then? I thought that was 3d District HQ.

 

This?

 

Campus International School

http://archinect.com/firms/project/106324/a-new-school-vision-for-cleveland-experiential-sustainable-design/20196919

^I think he's refering to the old building that they'll be moving out of once the new building is finished. I haven't kept up so forgive me if I'm remembering this wrong, but I believe it used to be a district HQ for a separate downtown district that no longer exists, but the building is still used as a police station until they finish the building up near 55th.

 

BTW, that building on Payne will look sweet if it gets rehabbed into residential in a few years.

^the current 3rd District is on Chester in University Circle not on Payne downtown.

^Whats the building on Payne around 22 St then? I thought that was 3d District HQ.

 

This?

 

Campus International School

http://archinect.com/firms/project/106324/a-new-school-vision-for-cleveland-experiential-sustainable-design/20196919

 

WHOA!!!!!

 

I am complete in favor of that.

I think that building and site plan would look nice....in Beachwood.

The building is iconic but would be terrible in any urban setting.

Anyone know what is schedule for the old HQ on 22nd/Payne.  I like that building--would be a shame for it to not be repurposed?

Anyone know what is schedule for the old HQ on 22nd/Payne.  I like that building--would be a shame for it to not be repurposed?

 

No schedule apparently. However Campus District Inc. is marketing this building for redevelopment along with the former Juvenile Justice Center.....

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20140119/SUB1/301199973

Wow, that school is cool looking. I"m referring to what is/was the 3rd District Police Station. I haven't been to it in a while, but it was a great old building with two greenish columns out front. North side of Payne--I thought at 22 St. A very cool old court house and jail was behind it on 22 st., but that was torn down a few years ago.

^Whats the building on Payne around 22 St then? I thought that was 3d District HQ.

 

This?

 

Campus International School

http://archinect.com/firms/project/106324/a-new-school-vision-for-cleveland-experiential-sustainable-design/20196919

 

WHOA!!!!!

 

I am complete in favor of that.

 

You would need to be wearing sunglasses all the time. It's also severely lacking in structure. There is a reason buildings are built like this.

There was an interesting snippet in a recent WSJ article about office buildings being converted into apartments in downtown Cleveland and other cities (http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB10001424052702303626804579506073419741570-lMyQjAxMTA0MDAwNzEwNDcyWj):

 

"The conversions have been so profitable, says Mr. Price, that K&D is now selling properties in the suburbs to focus on downtown and is in talks to buy at least two additional office buildings that it plans to convert."

 

Hmmm....

^Hmmm....already being discussed in Downtown Residence thread

I noticed on my way home that the old garage between the Calfee garage and the building on 9th that houses CVS is going to be auctioned.

Does this mean anything significant? That garage has got to be the most hideous structure I've ever seen and besides that it's literally crumbling. I can see the roof from my office and it's pretty rough looking

 

So it looks like Drury Hotels has purchased this garage. Being reported by @mjarboe today in the peedee.

Southworth Building to be rehabbed into apartments

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20140609/RENEWSLETTER/140609819/1276/newsletter07?X-IgnoreUserAgent=1&X-IgnoreUserAgent=1

Another article

http://www.freshwatercleveland.com/devnews/southworthbuilding061214.aspx

Three years later...we may finally see something happen, although we went from 34 apartments to 18.

Does this building have a State Historic Tax Credit award attached to it?  The article does not mention that he will be applying for such or that his financing is contingent on them. 

 

If he can finance and profit from this project sans tax credits, that is an awesome sign.

 

*Well, I answered my own question with google.  PD article from 2011 says;

"The Park Building and Southworth Building in Cleveland. Nearly $2 million in tax credits will help developer Matt Howells convert part of the Park Building and the adjacent Southworth Building, on Ontario Street, into 34 apartments. Most of the Park Building, at 140 Public Sq., houses condominiums. A jump in downtown Cleveland's apartment occupancy has developers searching for new rental projects to meet growing demand."

 

I wonder if that award is split up and transferred with the sale?

Does anyone know the status of the building directly to the right? It will be so great to see that block redeveloped. If only we could get an update on the May Co. building and the crappy grouping across from the May Co. building... I know this group was very against the proposed plan, but something is better than nothing.

 

Fingers crossed for phase II of the casino. Redeveloping those six buildings, adding a casino and redesigning Public Square would certainly add a lot of life to that area.

Three years later...we may finally see something happen, although we went from 34 apartments to 18.

 

The reduction in units must be based on the interest to add an atrium.

Sounds to me like 34 units was for part of the Park and the Southworth, the new count is just the Southworth units.

From CPC's website:

 

1. Ordinance No. 735-14(Ward 17/Councilmember Keane): Determining the method of making the public improvement of constructing all necessary infrastructure needed for the South Campus Area Development Project; authorizing the Director of Port Control to enter into one or more public improvement contracts for the making of the improvement; and authorizing the Director to employ one or more professional consultants to design the improvement.

Presenter: Kevyn Shaw, City of Cleveland

 

Does anyone know what this pertains to?

From CPC's website:

 

1. Ordinance No. 735-14(Ward 17/Councilmember Keane): Determining the method of making the public improvement of constructing all necessary infrastructure needed for the South Campus Area Development Project; authorizing the Director of Port Control to enter into one or more public improvement contracts for the making of the improvement; and authorizing the Director to employ one or more professional consultants to design the improvement.

Presenter: Kevyn Shaw, City of Cleveland

 

Does anyone know what this pertains to?

 

I've been wracking my brain over that one too. The only thing I can think of is the South Campus redevelopment at CWRU http://case.edu/administration/cpfm/pdc/mp/projects.pdf. But why is Councilman Marty Keane sponsoring this? Marty's Ward 17 is Kamms Corners. If it is CWRU, the only reason why I can see Keane sponsoring this is because the Division of Port Control answers to the Aviation & Transportation Committee which he chairs. But why would Port Control be involved with CWRU? Has to be something other than CWRU.

^South Campus is referring to Hopkins Airport---the area south of the Terminal and east of the runways. See map on Page 9 of this document:  http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/FileUploadServlet-1.0/download?docId=9199

^South Campus is referring to Hopkins Airport---the area south of the Terminal and east of the runways. See map on Page 9 of this document:  http://www.city.cleveland.oh.us/FileUploadServlet-1.0/download?docId=9199

 

Excellent. Thanks!

I sure hope that RJP Construction Services is better at construction than they are at spelling. This is along Euclid Avenue in Cleveland's University Circle.

 

I wonder if theyre the same people who did Rumi's Market and "Resturant" on Carnegie  :-P

That sign has at least been corrected lol

What I see everyday On East 222 in Euclid

^ Heinous

I sure hope that RJP Construction Services is better at construction than they are at spelling. This is along Euclid Avenue in Cleveland's University Circle.

 

 

Where is this sign?

What I see everyday On East 222 in Euclid

 

Oh Laaaaaaaaawd!!!  I can't...I just can't! 

Where is this sign?

 

By the old Cleveland Playhouse, south side of Euclid Ave.

Where is this sign?

 

By the old Cleveland Playhouse, south side of Euclid Ave.

 

Thats why I couldn't figure out where that would be! East 83rd and Euclid is not University Circle!

 

Thats why I couldn't figure out where that would be! East 83rd and Euclid is not University Circle!

 

Oy, not this again.

This is more of a general market trends article, not so much an Ohio City article, so I moved it here....

 

Lack of prime locations hurting homebuilding industry

By STAN BULLARD

Originally Published: June 22, 2014 4:30 AM  Modified: June 22, 2014 8:28 AM

 

Three lots in Ohio City, where Concord-based builder Knez Homes plans to seek city OKs to build, reflect one solution to the problem challenging the industry's recovery: a shortage of home sites in high-demand locations.

 

Bo Knez, owner of the namesake building firm, has plenty of parcels his firm has developed in Lake County, but he said he's working in Ohio City and other parts of Cleveland due to what he calls “land position.”

 

Lots are available in Cleveland, and demand for them exists, as it becomes harder to find prime suburban home sites in subdivisions developed by others. The three Ohio City locations, for example, have already been taken by prospective homebuyers paying around $350,000.

 

The decreasing supply of available lots in prime areas is universally cited by builders and consultants as the primary reason homebuilding in Northeast Ohio is off to a slower start so far this year than last year. The second reason is that a brutal winter and late spring slowed the process of turning land into lots.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20140622/SUB1/306229985/lack-of-prime-locations-hurting-building-industry

>Just means it's time to build homes in the "less desirable" areas and make them desirable by doing that.

 

Apples and oranges. Desirable areas need to be reinforced not expanded.  Critical mass is still a ways away.

 

People want NC homes in desirable areas and there are not enough vacant lots to build.  This dovetails perfectly with a lot of the aging stock in these areas and the marginal utility of old houses built cheaply for the working class. 

 

As desirability and interest and prices increase we will hopefully start seeing parcels being bought just to demo structures and build to suit. This takes care of the old inventory problem and satisfies those looking for new construction, increases the tax base, and improves the neighborhood.

 

Extreme example of the above.  In Toronto there are areas where classic post war bungalows are going for $750k solely for the land value.  They are then demoed and new construction takes their place.

>Just means it's time to build homes in the "less desirable" areas and make them desirable by doing that.

 

Apples and oranges. Desirable areas need to be reinforced not expanded.  Critical mass is still a ways away.

 

People want NC homes in desirable areas and there are not enough vacant lots to build.  This dovetails perfectly with a lot of the aging stock in these areas and the marginal utility of old houses built cheaply for the working class. 

 

As desirability and interest and prices increase we will hopefully start seeing parcels being bought just to demo structures and build to suit. This takes care of the old inventory problem and satisfies those looking for new construction, increases the tax base, and improves the neighborhood.

 

Extreme example of the above.  In Toronto there are areas where classic post war bungalows are going for $750k solely for the land value.  They are then demoed and new construction takes their place.

Well do you think Midtown is a desirable area? It is located directly in between the two most vibrant and up and coming areas in Cleveland and some would argue the state and has a good amount of vacant land.

 

As far as the other neighborhoods are concerned is it possible to do what was done with heritage Lane and renovate the houses

Instead of demolition? The east side especially 105th and Lee Avenue have large houses that sit empty and would look great with so extreme elbow grease.

 

^In this game, "desirability" is measured solely through expected sales prices/rents, and I think it's a safe bet Midtown doesn't command residential prices as high as central Tremont, Ohio City, Downtown, or central University Circle. I'd also guess land prices are pretty high in Midtown for various reasons.

 

The feasibility of renovation projects also depends on the economics. Where there's sufficient demand by homebuyers or investors with renovation budgets (Tremont, Ohio City), or where there's public/non profit subsidy (Heritage Lane), we'll continue to see renovation.  The problem with  much of the east side is that subsidy is limited, and without it, it makes no financial sense to renovate because demand is so weak.

 

We already do see some tear-downs, but that path is heavily restricted by historic district designations where it would be most profitable.

>Just means it's time to build homes in the "less desirable" areas and make them desirable by doing that.

 

Apples and oranges. Desirable areas need to be reinforced not expanded.  Critical mass is still a ways away.

 

People want NC homes in desirable areas and there are not enough vacant lots to build.  This dovetails perfectly with a lot of the aging stock in these areas and the marginal utility of old houses built cheaply for the working class. 

 

As desirability and interest and prices increase we will hopefully start seeing parcels being bought just to demo structures and build to suit. This takes care of the old inventory problem and satisfies those looking for new construction, increases the tax base, and improves the neighborhood.

 

Extreme example of the above.  In Toronto there are areas where classic post war bungalows are going for $750k solely for the land value.  They are then demoed and new construction takes their place.

 

More evidence that the viable neighborhoods grow block by block, they aren’t plopped down in the “less desirable” areas and expected to thrive.  We’re not talking about islands.  If you redevelop a block right next to somewhere like Tremont, it’s going to take on its character.  If you want it surrounded by blight and devastation (as some seemed to be proposing for the “Opportunity Corridor” area) eventually *that” will take over, too. 

 

Is it “gentrification”?  Of course it is.  Without it, people with options are not going to move into redeveloped areas.  It’s not a matter of racial or even economic bias.  It’s wanting to live around people who share their core values, a concept behind pretty much every urban (or suburban) living pattern in America at least since immigration began in earnest.

 

Thank you all for the explanation, I understand so much more now.

Is Weston Inc. preparing to acquire the Standard Building?

 

Weston Inc., the Warrensville Heights-based real estate concern, may be preparing to add the largest building yet — the 21-story Standard Building — to its recent spate of downtown Cleveland acquisitions.

 

Such a name would be appropriate for a company to own the structure, as it pairs the building’s name with its address on Ontario Street.

 

A Weston play for the 1925-vintage building has been widely rumored for months among downtown Cleveland real estate insiders and developers, perhaps incorporating adjoining properties to accommodate the lack of parking on the block.

 

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20140627/FREE/140629796

Is Weston Inc. preparing to acquire the Standard Building?

 

Weston Inc., the Warrensville Heights-based real estate concern, may be preparing to add the largest building yet — the 21-story Standard Building — to its recent spate of downtown Cleveland acquisitions.

 

Such a name would be appropriate for a company to own the structure, as it pairs the building’s name with its address on Ontario Street.

 

A Weston play for the 1925-vintage building has been widely rumored for months among downtown Cleveland real estate insiders and developers, perhaps incorporating adjoining properties to accommodate the lack of parking on the block.

 

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20140627/FREE/140629796

 

Great news on many fronts! Here's why.....

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=4266.msg713874#msg713874

 

The above link is to more of a discussion of a market-based discussion on downtown, so I moved it to the downtown office discussion thread.

 

As for this project, the person who told me about the Jacobs parking lot becoming active again also told that some design concepts being considered for the Standard Building involving adding a facade to the south side, facing Public Square, that is more attractive than the blank wall that's already there. I hope that happens, because that's one ugly blank wall that's been there for 89 years and counting!

^That would be tremendous news. Although if someone down the road would apply for tax credits I wonder how that would limit the ability to either add some type of facade or to punch holes in for windows. If that wall was all windows and with a revamped PS that would be dramatic, especially at night.

I'm told it could include a new rectory or related structure for the Old Stone Church. But you're right about the tax credits. I suspect they'd have to renovate the structure first, then add a facade later -- almost like a separate structure that would have to be attached to the Standard Building for stability? I don't know engineering stuff.

Cleveland requesting development proposals for city-owned parking lot

 

A potential real estate development site in downtown Cleveland may get some action if the City of Cleveland has its way.

 

The city-owned parking lot at Chester Avenue and East 13th Street near the Greyhound Bus Station is the subject of a request for proposals that the city’s Community Development Department posted on its website Monday, July 14.

 

The city seeks a mixed-use development of the site with retail, residential or office uses and a parking garage that would hike dramatically the number of spaces available, according to the RFP. The current 1.2-acre site has 140 parking slips; the city wants a minimum of 250 spaces on the parcel.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20140717/FREE/140719829/cleveland-requesting-development-proposals-for-city-owned-parking-lot?template=printart

Cleveland requesting development proposals for city-owned parking lot

 

You gotta be quick around here! Already posted and discussed at:

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=14187.msg716195#msg716195