May 4, 20178 yr Looks like a good site for a amazon fulfilment center. Wrong side of town Bye, Euclid Square Mall; hello Amazon? Ken Prendergast May 3, 2017 After 40 years, Euclid Square Mall is destined to be physically replaced by the latest thing in retailing -- E-commerce. The mall, having closed Sept. 19, 2016 after years of limping along with two dozen churches as its remaining tenants, is vacated and officially condemned by the city for safety violations. Euclid Square Mall had succumbed to the changing retail market and population shifts long ago. Circumstantial evidence suggests the replacement for the 687,000-square-foot shopping mall will be a massive distribution facility for the online retail giant Amazon. Called a Fulfillment Center, the facility would measure at least 650,000 square feet and possibly be as large as 1 million square feet. Based on similar projects elsewhere in Ohio, it would represent a capital investment in facilities and equipment of more than $100 million and result in the hiring of more than 600 permanent jobs. MORE: http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2017/05/bye-euclid-square-mall-hello-amazon.html
May 4, 20178 yr It wouldn't surprise me if there was interest from multiple users. It's a good location for industrial use. But I hope it doesn't up a huge warehouse with just 15 employees. Some of these facilities have hundreds of employees. Just because it's a box doesn't mean that it's just solely for warehouse use. This Amazon center in Charlestown, Indiana is massive and on the scale that's proposed for Euclid: http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=38.37946,-85.68628&z=18&t=H
May 4, 20178 yr Author Some of these facilities have "thousands" of employees. See my blog posting about the Euclid project. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 4, 20178 yr You both are right. Some industrial uses need a relatively large number of employees. All I was saying is that I hope whatever gets built is more like an Amazon facility with a thousand employees, rather than a storage facility with just two -- a janitor and a security guard.
May 4, 20178 yr Author I dig it. I was seeing seicer's hundreds of employees and raising him another thousand or so. Deal. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 9, 20178 yr Author Anybody know something about this? It's the vacant land bounded by 77 and Independence pkwy that the city has been expanding with fill dirt the last couple years. I don't think it's the Charter Steel expansion, since I thought that was adjacent to their existing site. A simple search for ETC Commercial Property doesn't bring up anything except for the LLC registration. Hopefully somebody else is savvy enough to use the CPA/laywer who registered the LLC to discover something useful. Calendar No. 17-111: 4800 Ruffini Court ETC Commercial Property LLC, owner, proposes to construct a new 2 story building and parking lot in an A3 General Industry District. The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances: 1. Section 349.07(a) which states that accessory off-street parking spaces, driveways and maneuvering areas shall be properly graded for drainage so that all water is drained within the lot providing such parking spaces, surface with concrete, asphaltic concrete, asphalt or other surfacing materials. 2. Section 352.10(3)(b) which states that outdoor storage of equipment requires a screen barrier of 75% or more opacity to conceal use and no barrier is proposed. 3. Sections 352.10-352.12 which states that a six foot wide landscaped strip screening parking from the street is required and no screening is proposed. (Filed April 13, 2017) http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2017/crr05-08-2017.pdf (page 4) http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2017/images/bza05-08-2017.pdf (page 27-28) edit: Added picture of parcel to post. The property (dubbed the Cuyahoga Valley Industrial Center by the Value Recovery Group which cleaned/prepped the former coke plant site under contract with the city) was sold to ETC Commercial Property LLC on April 11, 2017, so they're moving pretty fast on it. However, when you click the tax mailing address for this property, it still shows the prior owner's information -- Greater Cleveland Community Improvement Corp., which shares the same office suite/address on Bolivar as Team NEO, so I assume one of their incorporations. But now I see on the Manta listing )http://www.manta.com/c/mt1jlf6/the-greater-cleveland-community-improvement-corporation) for the Greater Cleveland Community Improvement Corp. has them at 1375 East 9th St # 1930. The company listed there is: Kushner, Hamed & Grostic Co., LPA One Cleveland Center 1375 East Ninth Street Suite 1930 Cleveland, Ohio 44114 Nothing is jumping out at me for the time being. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 10, 20178 yr Author RE Journals usually regurgitates other publication's articles. This one is an original piece... Cleveland’s downtown transforms through redevelopment, tax credit program May 05, 2017 | Sara Freund The very first electronic traffic light flickered on in 1914 on Cleveland’s busy Euclid Avenue. It signaled a bustling, leading city—but somewhere in the following decades the buildings on that street fell into disrepair, leaving vacant, largely obsolete, product. But in 2006, that started to change. That’s when the Ohio Historic Preservation Tax Program began investing in the underdeveloped downtown and helped to reshape the area. In 2015, the program reached a milestone with the completion of its 100th project. The most recent report from 2015 states that more than 9.59 million square feet has been rehabilitated, a total of 141 buildings and nearly $125 million in tax credits issued. “What’s happened is a sea change in both perception and reality, especially in the last 12 years,” said Michael Deemer, executive vice president of business development at the Downtown Cleveland Alliance. MORE: http://www.rejournals.com/2017/05/05/clevelands-downtown-transforms-through-redevelopment-tax-credit-program/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 11, 20178 yr Author Electioneering.... Mayor Frank Jackson to target $65M at neighborhoods for commercial growth, jobs and housing http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/05/mayor_frank_jackson_to_target.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 11, 20178 yr RE Journals usually regurgitates other publication's articles. This one is an original piece... Cleveland’s downtown transforms through redevelopment, tax credit program May 05, 2017 | Sara Freund MORE: http://www.rejournals.com/2017/05/05/clevelands-downtown-transforms-through-redevelopment-tax-credit-program/ The article states that the Huntington building started last year with a build out of a Hilton curio and apartments. Has that project in fact started? If so I missed that one!
May 11, 20178 yr I was told they've done some interior work in preparation but the full on construction has not begun yet.
May 11, 20178 yr Hey There, Is anyone here at U.O. skilled at updating the skyscrapers.com site (link below) so it includes recently completed structures in Cleveland like the Hilton; proposed structures like 515 & Nucleus; under construction towers like One University Circle, and other serious proposals? I'd love to see Cleveland represented well on this site, but I fear my own digital renderings would appear as submitted by a 4th grader, (no offense to any 4th grader who already has exceptional digital rendering skills.) http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=147 Thanks!
May 13, 20178 yr Author SATURDAY, MAY 13, 2017 Busy month: 3 big downtown Cleveland projects? The next month may be very busy with Downtown Cleveland construction announcements. As a follow-up to my recent posting The Cleveland Skyscraper Building-Binge Starts, it appears that three projects will be making news very soon. One project is a surprise. Least surprising is that workers this month are swarming over the nine-level 515 Euclid parking garage. Stark Enterprises will soon erect a $62 million, 19-story apartment building called The Beacon on top of it. The workers are construction managers who are mapping out the logistics and sequencing of work to be done over the next 16-18 months. The Beacon, with its 187 apartments, is due to open in late-2018. The project faces a small glitch, however. Stark representatives discovered a typo in a variance approved in Sept. 2016 by the city's Board of Zoning Appeals regarding the height of The Beacon. In 2016, BZA approved a height of 340 feet. Instead, Stark is requesting a height of 355 feet at BZA's May 22 hearing. It isn't known what, if any, delay this may cause to the project. ________ I've also learned from several sources that Medical Mutual's board of directors met this week and have decided on an office consolidation plan, including new downtown headquarters. The address or size of this office building isn't known, but at least several major Northeast Ohio developers responded to a request for proposals from Medical Mutual last year on new or renovated buildings for Ohio's largest health insurance company. It is quite likely the public will learn in the next month about the winning proposal. Medical Mutual said it would prefer to lease its new location, even if it was built specifically for the insurer. MORE: http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2017/05/busy-month-3-big-downtown-cleveland.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 13, 20178 yr KJP...if you are correct about the Playhouse Square building I am going to hunt you down and plant a big wet one on you, so be forewarned. This is the project I have been wanting for years.
May 13, 20178 yr KJP.....this is fantastic!!! Especially the Playhouse square tower. I'm willing to give up parking in my favorite lot for this!! I never understood why they built that garage on the back to begin with!
May 13, 20178 yr Author Doubt it. A couple hundred apartments for each building doesn't move the needle in a far larger marketplace. If anything, the more apartments that are getting added downtown, the more rents increase. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 13, 20178 yr I don't totally agree with you KJP in that the idea of supply and demand would say that adding more supply eventually will meet demand. if it exceed demand, rents will go down. That said, I think you are saying that the supply still has not met, and certainly not exceeded demand. I agree. This particular tower wouldn't stop Nucleus. We will get to that point one day.
May 13, 20178 yr Author We will reach that point someday, but we're far from it now. When rents continue to rise as more residential inventory is added, that's a very encouraging sign for real estate investors. It means this beast is starting to generate its own momentum. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 16, 20178 yr Author There are a ton of proposed vacated streets on this week's agenda. Here's one that I don't know where it is. Can anyone ID what it is? Note that it is in Ward 3 so it could be downtown, the Flats, Ohio City or Tremont... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2017/05192017/index.php Agenda for May 19, 2017 MANDATORY REFERRALS Ordinance No. 501-17(Ward 3/Councilmember McCormack): To vacate a portion of Bay Street (formerly Plum Street). "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 17, 20178 yr This street name guide: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~officer/Clev1906Streets.html Says that Plum St is now 13th st. That is the little street right to the west of Sokolowskis and right by the new towpath trail that will connect around Tremont over to abbey. So maybe it's something to do with that?
May 17, 20178 yr It's a section of East 13th between Carnegie and the Innerbelt. I found Plum Street on the 1874 historic map here: http://peoplemaps.esri.com/cleveland/
May 17, 20178 yr Author It's a section of East 13th between Carnegie and the Innerbelt. I found Plum Street on the 1874 historic map here: http://peoplemaps.esri.com/cleveland/ I'm not finding it. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 17, 20178 yr Make sure you're on the 1874 map. Click the 4 squares arranged in a grid to bring up the "basemap gallery". And remember that Carnegie was "Ohio Street" in 1874. Also, they spelled it "Plumb" in 1874, but not in later maps, when it was "Plum".
May 17, 20178 yr Author Got it, thanks. But that's not Bay Street now. It's 13th Street, right? The application says it would vacate Bay Street, formerly Plum Street. Still confused. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 17, 20178 yr I don't totally agree with you KJP in that the idea of supply and demand would say that adding more supply eventually will meet demand. if it exceed demand, rents will go down. That said, I think you are saying that the supply still has not met, and certainly not exceeded demand. I agree. This particular tower wouldn't stop Nucleus. We will get to that point one day. I would like to think we're getting close to a critical mass around E9th and Euclid. There is starting to be a palpable energy at most times of the day and with Leader, Garfield, Halle coming online I hope it will continue. I think there is a point where you start to get an increase in demand because enough people live there. People move to new york and chicago simply because there are lots of other people to meet there and their friends are all moving there. This has not been the case in Cleveland, but if we can get to that point it could get exciting. I wonder how far off we are from rents justifying new construction? Or maybe we are close but demand concerns are lingering?
May 17, 20178 yr ^I think the threshold for new construction is when rents top $2.00/psf. With some construction projects in the city (just none downtown yet), we've passed that mark. I think it's only a matter of time.
May 17, 20178 yr Got it, thanks. But that's not Bay Street now. It's 13th Street, right? The application says it would vacate Bay Street, formerly Plum Street. Still confused. Yes, 13th St. I can't find a Bay St. through any kind of search.
May 17, 20178 yr Author Yes, 13th St. I can't find a Bay St. through any kind of search. If true, this is surrounded by Frangos properties. Is someone about to make a move on these properties? If so, does Frangos purchasing all those properties along East 14th up to Prospect have anything to do with this?? Wondering aloud... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 18, 20178 yr Interesting 1920s era map. Of note: Chester Ave, from downtown, ended at E. 30th street. There was a small section of (what became) it named Windsor Ave (between E. 40 and 55th streets), which explains for that tiny block of those still surviving old Philly-style row houses on Windsor Terrace in about the 4100 block. Most of what we know of as Chester today was an extension built during or after WWII IIRC (which is why, until recent years, there were very few homes, apts or businesses that actually fronted on Chester). Also, of course, there was no Shaker Square at that time, but Moreland Circle where, in the middle, the 2 Rapid lines split, as opposed a block east of that location where they now separate. Surrounding it were mostly numbered lots in the Van Sweringen allotment... Also the Shaker Rapid, called the Cleveland & Youngstown RR, heading downtown, ended on a ramp up to the street at E. 34 where rapid cars headed to Public Square over city streets... Terminal Tower and the (then referred to as) Terminal Group buildings were still on the drawing board. Some numbered streets were referred to as their original names, like Highland Street for W. 117... good stuff.
May 18, 20178 yr ... also the large building on S. Woodland in Shaker, now known as Woodbury 1-8 Elementary, which was Woodbury Junior High in my day, was originally Shaker's High School, as noted by the map... Onaway ES next door, was only planned on the map. The current HS, at that time, wasn't even projected...
May 19, 20178 yr A while back 4 homes were torn town along near the border of University Heights and Beachwood. The owner intended to put a car wash in. This was a horrible idea. They've "upgraded" to a drive-in burger joint. http://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/news/local_news/swensons-drive-in-eyes-university-heights-location/article_6c06444a-39b4-11e7-860e-c394e8a00f83.html
May 19, 20178 yr Swenson's gets a pass, they have good enough food to allow for bad urbanism! :laugh: “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
May 19, 20178 yr Swenson's gets a pass for ANYTHING...!!! This is actually a great location, It will definitely be popular for the area.
May 21, 20178 yr Author Preservation tax credits energize Cleveland's aging urban landscape May 20, 2017 UPDATED 2 DAYS AGO By STAN BULLARD After the Leader Building opened in 1912 at 526 Superior Ave. in downtown Cleveland, reporters and printers hustled to meet daily newspaper deadlines for 20 years there for The News-Leader. After the paper was sold to The Plain Dealer, it was moved, but the ornate lobby remained a feature after the structure became a multitenant office building. At the same time, across the Cuyahoga River, at 1526 W. 25th St., a building constructed in the 1870s for the family-owned Baehr Brewery was serving as a machine shop and would later become a warehouse for convention displays. Both buildings have just joined the lineup of adaptive reuse projects of historic buildings that are becoming apartments at a rapid rate. They are among an onslaught of more than 1,100 suites that will open in 2017, and will later be joined by buildings such as The Standard, 99 W. St. Clair Ave., and Garfield, 1965 East Sixth St., and further the transformation of downtown Cleveland as a residential neighborhood and boost the population of the city's West Side neighborhoods. MORE: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170520/NEWS/170529996/-preservation-tax-credits-energize-clevelands-aging-urban-landscape "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 21, 20178 yr Author I was thinking of writing an article about this subject, but including more of the other huge sites in Cleveland and inner-ring suburbs that are being targeted for warehouses, light industrial or other large-scale commercial uses. Crain's only scratched the surface of everything that's in play right now... NEO's warehouse boom is built by e-commerce May 21, 2017 UPDATED 2 DAYS AGO By STAN BULLARD The rise in demand for huge warehouses to serve the expanding e-commerce market is combining with a tight industrial market in Northeast Ohio to produce what looks to be the region's first great industrial-zoned land rush of the 21st century. In a striking sign of the times as internet retail sales climb and bricks and mortar stores weather an epic shakeout, an affiliate of Atlanta-based United Parcel Service just bought a 65-acre parcel in Middleburg Heights from heirs of the original 19th-century farming family that put it into service on Engle Road in the 1800s. The price: $7.5 million, according to Cuyahoga County land records. MORE: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170521/NEWS/170529985/neos-warehouse-boom-is-built-by-e-commerce "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 22, 20178 yr Wasn't sure where to put this so here you go! Hopefully opening is right around the corner!
May 22, 20178 yr Author Wasn't sure where to put this so here you go! Hopefully opening is right around the corner! Here: https://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,16941.0.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 26, 20178 yr Author FRIDAY, MAY 26, 2017 Is Cleveland erring in the marketing of its industrial sites? Development of the largest shovel-ready industrial/warehousing sites in the City of Cleveland aren't attracting much private-sector interest despite discounted asking prices. Meanwhile, inner-ring suburbs offering large parcels that are almost shovel-ready are having greater success in drawing private sector interest and potentially thousands of jobs from significant planned developments. What, if anything, is the City of Cleveland doing wrong vs. what, if anything, are the suburbs doing right? Take, for example, the largest available site in Cleveland in more than a half-century. Located off Interstate 77 south of the Pershing Avenue exit, the 65-acre Cuyahoga Valley Industrial Center offered the potential for up to 750,000 square feet of new manufacturing space and 1,000 new jobs, according to promotional materials for the site. Two prospective users of the former International Steel Group coal/coke plant are finalizing plans for their building construction projects that will occupy about half of the center. More than $5 million in taxpayer funds from the city and state were used to clear and clean the polluted property. But the number of jobs involved will likely be far less than backers of the redeveloped site had hoped. MORE: http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2017/05/cleveland-erring-in-marketing-industrial.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 30, 20178 yr I heard some bad news over the weekend. Hopefully it's not true, but I heard from a Sherwin employee that due to the Valspar acquisition - the expansion of Sherwin may come outside of downtown. I forget the location, but certainly not the tower on Public Square that we all wanted.
May 30, 20178 yr ^Don't quite understand why this acquisition would have an effect on the location one way or the other.
May 30, 20178 yr Author I heard some bad news over the weekend. Hopefully it's not true, but I heard from a Sherwin employee that due to the Valspar acquisition - the expansion of Sherwin may come outside of downtown. I forget the location, but certainly not the tower on Public Square that we all wanted. I responded in the downtown office speculation thread: https://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,4266.msg856410.html#msg856410 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 30, 20178 yr I heard this weekend from a Sherwin-Williams employee they are building downtown and they understand to attract talent they need to be downtown. Again, just a rumor I heard.
June 3, 20178 yr Author Interesting summary of recent downtown developments, including various market data: http://www.jll.com/Cleveland/en-us/Pages/RemoteResearch.aspx?URL=http://www.jll.com/united-states/en-us/research/8197/downtown-cleveland-2017-overview "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 3, 20178 yr Wasn't sure where to put this so here you go! Hopefully opening is right around the corner! When is this opening? Taco Bell is my guilty pleasure and I never see them in Cleveland.
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