June 18, 20186 yr What's the deal with this bid anyway? And why the hell do you have cover up half of it when releasing to the public? ??? https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/06/heavily_redacted_version_of_am.html
June 18, 20186 yr My guess is that the want to keep the tax incentives offered a secret. I'm assuming they were very generous and other business in town will ask for a similar deal. I have not read the redacted report just speculation.
June 21, 20186 yr Hey guys, was wondering if any of you knew what was planned for this piece of land downtown. Cheers!
June 21, 20186 yr ^That looks like a GREAT place for a neighborhood right on the edge of downtown. Oh, wait...
June 21, 20186 yr ^That looks like a GREAT place for a neighborhood right on the edge of downtown. Oh, wait... What do you mean?
June 21, 20186 yr ^That looks like a GREAT place for a neighborhood right on the edge of downtown. Oh, wait... What do you mean? He might be referencing the idea that ODOT could have moved the innerbelt interchanges south to open that land up for development. They opted to go the easy route.
June 21, 20186 yr ^Correct. Also, though that area may have been industrial it is in the general area of Central which was demolished for the freeway in the 50s.
June 22, 20186 yr Author Google the Flats South Innovation District "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 22, 20186 yr ^That's not the same spot, though close. Flats South Innovation District is off of Stone's Levee. The property Eastside is asking about is at the south end of East 9th St.
June 22, 20186 yr Author Ah ok. Yep, this is almost all ODOT land. Would've made a better site for Browns stadium than what was chosen, IMHO. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 23, 20186 yr The investor who purchased the land has some interesting ideas for Flat South - not sure if this had been posted. http://www.jscheer.net/south-bank-flats/ Also: http://www.jscheer.net/2338canal/ http://www.jscheer.net/settlerspoint/
June 23, 20186 yr There is a thread for the Stones Levee area. Those pics have been around for a year or so. https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php?topic=31015.0
June 26, 20186 yr Author A decade after completion, Cleveland's Euclid corridor sees construction boom https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/e-team/euclid-avenue-construction "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 26, 20186 yr The little interesting tidbit there was that someone, whoever that was at the end, is starting to actively consider what the future of Carnegie and of East 55th could be.
July 5, 20186 yr Author As with the two new Amazon fulfillment centers, I'm glad to see these massive new warehouses built where those needing the jobs the most can reach them by public transportation (although some transit routes would need to be adjusted slightly to reach this site). Although this would employ only about 100 people.... July 05, 2018 2:40 pm UPDATED 23 MINUTES AGO Cleveland industrial site may house $100 million cold storage complex By STAN BULLARD Veteran industrial real estate broker and property owner Howard Lichtig, a vice president at CBRE Group's Cleveland office, is putting together plans for a Northeast Ohio Food Hub that could cost as much as $100 million. The proposed 40-acre site is in Cuyahoga Valley Industrial Center in Cleveland between Interstate 77 and Independence Road immediately south of Pershing Avenue. The property is a brownfield redevelopment of a former coke plant and slag dump purchased by the city of Cleveland from ArcelorMittal and redeveloped with brownfield and other funds from multiple sources. Through Hal Cold LLC, Lichtig leads an investor group proposing to build one, and perhaps two, buildings of 250,000 square feet each equipped to serve the cutting edge of the frozen food and cold storage business. MORE: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20180705/news/167271/cleveland-industrial-site-may-house-100-million-cold-storage-complex "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 5, 20186 yr A $100 million development, 500,000 sq ft., and 40 acres of land...but only 100 jobs. It's pretty questionable if industrial and warehouse uses are the highest and best uses for center city land anymore. Also, I wonder how this complements or competes with the Cleveland Food Terminal, which actually is transit accessible.
July 9, 20186 yr Can someone point me towards The Quarter thread? Thanks! Posts about The Quarter have just been going in the Ohio City thread. https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php/topic,2492.0.html Its a huge project and in hindsight could have had its own thread.
July 25, 20186 yr Interesting read: https://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/7-local-architects-planners-and-experts-on-how-theyd-fix-cleveland/Content?oid=21153674
July 25, 20186 yr ^ Mayor Dennis Kuchinich, Mayor Tom Johnsom...haha. Otherwise a great article. I'd gladly pitch in right now to help with Ted's Midway Bike plan. And the Green Ribbon land bridge. Some excellent ideas for sure. Thanks for posting. Our city is too divided; access to our waterfront, in a word, sucks; and we desperately need public spaces for our personal and social health.
August 2, 20186 yr Author DCA advertising piece with some data in it... Downtown Cleveland catching attention of investors looking for adaptive reuse projects https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/08/01/downtown-cleveland-catching-attention-of-investors.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 3, 20186 yr Author A few blocks from the towers of boomtown University Circle sits some of Ohio's most impoverished neighborhoods. Efforts are underway to leverage UC's prosperity to benefit Cleveland neighborhoods. In fact, most of the long-neglected structures in this 2014 scene along East 105th Street are gone, waiting for public/private investment to reactivate this cleared area. FRIDAY, AUGUST 3, 2018 Leveraging the Boomtown Cleveland's East Side, with one big exception, is a mess. It's got some of the worst urban poverty in the United States and is the reason for Cleveland's #2 ranking among America's biggest cities in terms of percentage of residents living in poverty. Only Detroit outranks Cleveland in that regard. Indeed, Cleveland's East Side possesses large pockets of hyper-poverty, or concentrated poverty, where poverty rates exceed 40 percent. The national average poverty rate is 12.7 percent. Cleveland's poverty manifests itself in violent crimes and property crimes, drug abuse and trafficking, gangs, broken families, poor educational attainment, poor housing conditions and poor personal health. But Cleveland's East Side also has one of the fastest growing job centers in the United States -- University Circle. This includes the immediately surrounding areas of Little Italy plus parts of Fairfax and Glenville. Since 2000, University Circle has been growing at the rate of about 1,000 jobs per year to put it over 42,000 jobs. That makes it the fourth largest employment center in Ohio, trailing the downtown central business districts in Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati. MORE: http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2018/08/leveraging-boomtown.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 3, 20186 yr Nice post. The CDC model is absolutely killing us. Planning needs to be more coordinated and more consistent. Building a neighborhood downtown at Superior and 105 makes perfect sense, but Kinsman needs that too, instead of small-scale agriculture and unmarketable housing. Meanwhile, the Buckeye-Shaker area has lost millions in federal funds to the open villainy of its filthy councilman and CDC. Hough is still reeling from a succession of anti-urban leadership, which right now is attempting to regain power via recall election. And then of course there's East Cleveland. Only in our fractured system could these problems go on for so long. No more borders, no more baronies, no more shakedowns, no more graft, no more patchwork planning.
August 3, 20186 yr Nice post. The CDC model is absolutely killing us. Planning needs to be more coordinated and more consistent. Building a neighborhood downtown at Superior and 105 makes perfect sense, but Kinsman needs that too, instead of small-scale agriculture and unmarketable housing. Meanwhile, the Buckeye-Shaker area has lost millions in federal funds to the open villainy of its filthy councilman and CDC. Hough is still reeling from a succession of anti-urban leadership, which right now is attempting to regain power via recall election. And then of course there's East Cleveland. Only in our fractured system could these problems go on for so long. No more borders, no more baronies, no more shakedowns, no more graft, no more patchwork planning. A microcosm of the 58 municipality planning strategy in Cuyahoga County. Never thought of it like that before.
August 3, 20186 yr Imagine trying to build a BRT along mayfield road. you would need to get GCRTA, ODOT, various cleveland wards, cleveland heights, south euclid, lyndhurst, mayfield all to agree. it would be very difficult to make happen. Cedar would be even worse. Even if it got built? Trying to get all those communities to come up with a shared vision for development? Matching codes? Incentives? Tif districts? SIDs? That's just one example of how difficult our 59 communities makes development.
August 3, 20186 yr Author Nice post. The CDC model is absolutely killing us. Planning needs to be more coordinated and more consistent. Building a neighborhood downtown at Superior and 105 makes perfect sense, but Kinsman needs that too, instead of small-scale agriculture and unmarketable housing. Meanwhile, the Buckeye-Shaker area has lost millions in federal funds to the open villainy of its filthy councilman and CDC. Hough is still reeling from a succession of anti-urban leadership, which right now is attempting to regain power via recall election. And then of course there's East Cleveland. Only in our fractured system could these problems go on for so long. No more borders, no more baronies, no more shakedowns, no more graft, no more patchwork planning. A microcosm of the 58 municipality planning strategy in Cuyahoga County. Never thought of it like that before. The difference is that there is a municipal government which oversees and redistributes financial and planning resources to all of the neighborhoods and CDCs. If we had a regional government that oversaw and redistributed resources to all of the 58 county municipalities (and preferably beyond), we wouldn't be having the kinds of sprawl/abandonment issues. I like the CDC structure. Many of these neighborhoods could never receive the attention to detail from City Hall without the CDCs managing them. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 3, 20186 yr Author BTW, an insider just shared this comment in response to my blog article.... "A bad move Kasich made to sandbag re-development of contaminated properties was to appoint Craig Butler director of Ohio EPA. He's a control freak who doesn't grasp that the Voluntary Action Program that has resulted in the clean up of properties all over Cleveland is just that: VOLUNTARY. He has increased oversight of the program to the point that no one wants to utilize it, and if they don't utilize it, they don't get a covenant not to sue from the state of Ohio which lenders like to see before the lend money to re-develop contaminated sites. Lenders understandably don't want to lend money on a property that might get sued by the state for contamination issues . A very small list of properties that have benefitted from the program: The Dave's Supermarket in Midtown, the Baker Electric Building, The Cuyahoga County Juvenile Justice Center, the new University Hospitals Women's And Children's Center in Midtown and the office building next to it, Flats East Bank. Orlando Bakery, Miceli Dairy, Asia Plaza, 4000 Euclid building, Hemisphere Industrial Park (built on a portion of the former PRR Kinsman Yard), and a bunch more, including ones that haven't been redeveloped yet, and these are just ones on the east side (Flats excepted, of course)." "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 7, 20186 yr I have a very random question. I was in Heinen’s the other day and noticed the glass dome seemed rather dark, as if the lights were off that illuminate it. Perhaps it’s my OCD but it drives me crazy that there are always at least a couple of lights burned out that encircle the dome so I’m always looking up to see. This however was the dome itself. I tweeted Heinen’s asking if the lights would be replaced soon and they replied with this: “Good Morning Clifton - the glass dome at our Downtown Cleveland store draws in light from the outside. Looks like you happened to look up as some clouds were passing overhead!“ Am I crazy or is that completely false? I thought the dome was entirely sealed on the outside, and that the light was artificial.
August 7, 20186 yr I have a very random question. I was in Heinen’s the other day and noticed the glass dome seemed rather dark, as if the lights were off that illuminate it. Perhaps it’s my OCD but it drives me crazy that there are always at least a couple of lights burned out that encircle the dome so I’m always looking up to see. This however was the dome itself. I tweeted Heinen’s asking if the lights would be replaced soon and they replied with this: “Good Morning Clifton - the glass dome at our Downtown Cleveland store draws in light from the outside. Looks like you happened to look up as some clouds were passing overhead!“ Am I crazy or is that completely false? I thought the dome was entirely sealed on the outside, and that the light was artificial. Yeah, That's false. There is actually another dome on top of the glass one and in the space between all the lights are housed. Those lights have been dim for quite some time. I know the property management team has looked into replacing those lights as well as the lights encircling the rotunda, but it is a huge cost and don't want to spend the money at this time.
August 7, 20186 yr I have a very random question. I was in Heinen’s the other day and noticed the glass dome seemed rather dark, as if the lights were off that illuminate it. Perhaps it’s my OCD but it drives me crazy that there are always at least a couple of lights burned out that encircle the dome so I’m always looking up to see. This however was the dome itself. I tweeted Heinen’s asking if the lights would be replaced soon and they replied with this: “Good Morning Clifton - the glass dome at our Downtown Cleveland store draws in light from the outside. Looks like you happened to look up as some clouds were passing overhead!“ Am I crazy or is that completely false? I thought the dome was entirely sealed on the outside, and that the light was artificial. Yeah, That's false. There is actually another dome on top of the glass one and in the space between all the lights are housed. Those lights have been dim for quite some time. I know the property management team has looked into replacing those lights as well as the lights encircling the rotunda, but it is a huge cost and don't want to spend the money at this time. Here is the information on what was done to the domes in 1971-1973: "For years, the ability to see the patterned ceiling was dependent on sun light. An interior lighting system was installed that could make the glass visible through reflected light. A catwalk system was created and the walls between the inner and outer dome were painted white to assist in the reflected light. Some deterioration had occurred due to the outer prism glass dome allowing condensation to accumulate between the domes. To eliminate this issue, but keep the form of the exterior artistic lines of the outer dome, a weatherproofing solution was created. It was first covered with Urethane foam 1” thick. This [was] applied as a liquid which rapidly expands or “foams” to 30 times its liquid thickness, providing excellent insulation as well as a vapor barrier. As a result, it readily reflects the conformation of the surface. Since the glass prisms are ½” higher than the metal frames into which they are set and the metal ribs forming the pie-shaped section of the dome extend 1” above the glass prisms, the configurations were clearly telegraphed through the Urethane cover. To further accentuate the pie-shaped section [they] were requested by the City’s Fine Arts Commission to add 2” exterior Marine plywood strips to the metal ribs. The entire dome was next covered in with a Neogard Roof Coating system which consisted of four coats of neoprene and two coats of hypolon to supply the black bronze color. These six coats form a coating about 1/32 of 1” thick, elastic and highly resistant to heat, cold, sun and pollution."
August 20, 20186 yr Author http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2018/08232018/index.php Case 18-009 (Approved February 8, 2018): Mall Historic District Lincoln Building Garage 708 St. Clair Avenue Revised Storefront Renovation Plans Ward 3: McCormack "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 20, 20186 yr I didn't realize that building ever looked so impressive! Too bad they aren't renovating the entire facade, that could lend a lot of character to a fairly bland part of the cityscape.
August 20, 20186 yr I heard a rumor from a friend in NY about a hotel going in around there. I wonder who the tenant is?
August 20, 20186 yr I heard a rumor from a friend in NY about a hotel going in around there. I wonder who the tenant is? Most of the building now is a parking garage.
August 20, 20186 yr I heard a rumor from a friend in NY about a hotel going in around there. I wonder who the tenant is? Most of the building now is a parking garage. It could be converted back I assume?
August 20, 20186 yr IN there, or AROUND there? It is right across from the Westin and the Drury hotels.
August 21, 20186 yr IN there, or AROUND there? It is right across from the Westin and the Drury hotels. I was given no specifics--other than it was a new hotel on St Clair in the Warehouse district. I thought maybe this could be the project...unless there is something bigger brewing on the lots! EDIT: I just realized where this is--I thought this was down by the Justice Center...carry on!
August 21, 20186 yr I heard a rumor from a friend in NY about a hotel going in around there. I wonder who the tenant is? Most of the building now is a parking garage. It could be converted back I assume? It was constructed as a garage with the storefronts and there were some offices on the second and sixth floors. The renovations to remove the decorative elements was done in the early 1960s.
September 10, 20186 yr Leadership of the Frango's group parking lot company was handed off to the son. The article on Crain's implies the company is looking to get more involved in real estate development. We'll see about that. http://www.crainscleveland.com/people/lou-frangos-hands-leadership-duties-son Lou Frangos hands leadership duties off to son Well-known developer and parking magnate Louis Frangos is handing the reins over to his son Damon, who will serve as president of The Frangos Group and USA Parking Systems. ... The company said in a news release it outsourced a large portion of its parking management operation to Platinum Parking North East so it could focus more heavily on real estate opportunities. ... "I see great things on our horizon as we plan to do more real estate development and form strategic partnerships that will make a lasting impact on our city and community," he said in the release. "There are great opportunities in our future, and I can't thank my father, Lou Frangos, enough for his confidence and continued support."
September 10, 20186 yr Good lord, that new Crain's website is appalling! My hovercraft is full of eels
September 10, 20186 yr Leadership of the Frango's group parking lot company was handed off to the son. The article on Crain's implies the company is looking to get more involved in real estate development. We'll see about that. http://www.crainscleveland.com/people/lou-frangos-hands-leadership-duties-son Lou Frangos hands leadership duties off to son Well-known developer and parking magnate Louis Frangos is handing the reins over to his son Damon, who will serve as president of The Frangos Group and USA Parking Systems. ... The company said in a news release it outsourced a large portion of its parking management operation to Platinum Parking North East so it could focus more heavily on real estate opportunities. ... "I see great things on our horizon as we plan to do more real estate development and form strategic partnerships that will make a lasting impact on our city and community," he said in the release. "There are great opportunities in our future, and I can't thank my father, Lou Frangos, enough for his confidence and continued support." I know it is true they have been looking at things for at least the last three years. They own bascially all the parking lots/ parking garages north of Carnegie and south of Bolivar between 9th and 14th.
September 10, 20186 yr Between Frangos and Shiai there is new blood working into the surface parking lot business on this side of town, to this point it's business as usual, not sure I expect it to change given some direct interactions.
September 10, 20186 yr Author Leadership of the Frango's group parking lot company was handed off to the son. The article on Crain's implies the company is looking to get more involved in real estate development. We'll see about that. http://www.crainscleveland.com/people/lou-frangos-hands-leadership-duties-son Lou Frangos hands leadership duties off to son Well-known developer and parking magnate Louis Frangos is handing the reins over to his son Damon, who will serve as president of The Frangos Group and USA Parking Systems. ... The company said in a news release it outsourced a large portion of its parking management operation to Platinum Parking North East so it could focus more heavily on real estate opportunities. ... "I see great things on our horizon as we plan to do more real estate development and form strategic partnerships that will make a lasting impact on our city and community," he said in the release. "There are great opportunities in our future, and I can't thank my father, Lou Frangos, enough for his confidence and continued support." Interesting. They own a lot of land between Progressive Field and Wolstein Center/CSU. It's certainly an untapped area development-wise. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 28, 20186 yr Author A quick summary of a few projects.... Downtown Cleveland construction projects continue to progress heading into fall https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/e-team/downtown-cleveland-construction-projects-move-along-heading-into-fall "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 28, 20186 yr Author FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 2018 Cleveland: Nearly 40 towers planned A remarkable building boom is under way in Greater Cleveland. Because of a strong economic recovery that's been picking up momentum here over the past five years, there are more large building projects in the metro area now than at any time in perhaps the past 50 years. By my count, there are approximately 39 buildings of 10 stories or taller that were completed since last year, are under construction, are about to begin construction or are planned. Of course, not all are going to get built because some are "plans" put out there for a real estate developer to generate publicity and/or test the market to see what can be economically justified. Unlike the last boom, which featured many 10+ story apartment buildings in the suburbs of Lakewood, Euclid, Parma, Mayfield Heights, and elsewhere, nearly all of the structures in this current boom are in the city of Cleveland. And, unlike the last construction boom, there are also now many residential conversions of obsolete office buildings, many of which are 10+ stories tall. They are not included in this count. MORE: http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2018/09/cleveland-nearly-40-towers-planned.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 28, 20186 yr So KJP[/member] you are saying Brickman sold out to another developer? Was not aware of that was this recently? One West is still on his website btw. Also no mention of Cumberlands 'Harbor View' in your article, I mean it does have world class signage up already... Edit - ok I see now you are focusing on 10 stories and above. Harbor View most likely wont go over that..
September 29, 20186 yr Unlike the last boom, which featured many 10+ story apartment buildings in the suburbs of Lakewood, Euclid, Parma, Mayfield Heights, and elsewhere As somebody just entering the industry, if the last boom was when they built Gates Mills Towers, I really hope there isn't that much time in between now and the next boom :D
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