Between Frangos and Shiai there is new blood working into the surface parking lot business on this side of town, to this point it's business as usual, not sure I expect it to change given some direct interactions.

 

At a certain point you'd think money would start to talk for these guys. Classic example of business needing to keep up with the times.

So KJP[/member]  you are saying Brickman sold out to another developer?  Was not aware of that was this recently? One West is still on his website btw.

Also no mention of Cumberlands 'Harbor View' in your article,  I mean it does have world class signage up already...

 

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I would love to say more.

 

From their latest plan, Cumberland shows no buildings of 10 stories or more...

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I would love to say more.

 

Yes I wish you could also.. Do you think it makes this project more likely to happen or about the same?

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I would love to say more.

 

Yes I wish you could also.. Do you think it makes this project more likely to happen or about the same?

 

It's too late I'm already in love with the rendering of those two buildings. Curvy!

^Yep I hear you. But with a new developer there might be new hope. Those original renders were crazy. I would settle for a couple of 9 - 12 story units.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I would love to say more.

 

Yes I wish you could also.. Do you think it makes this project more likely to happen or about the same?

 

Much more likely (when you hear the new developer's name I think you will agree) and at greater scale than to what Brickman was proposing. Remember that he was originally proposing two buildings, one perhaps as much as 15 stories and the other about 10. Then he scaled it down to about 4-6 stories each. I don't know what the new developer will propose scale-wise or even if it will succeed, but I'm told it will be larger and that it will fall somewhere in the range of Brickman's two proposals.

 

EDIT: BTW that's why I posted a rendering of Brickman's original proposal but chose a view that showed the entirety of the shorter of the two buildings. I doubt that the new developer will propose a 15-story building but I'm willing to bet at least one of them is going to be a 10-story building.

A 1010-story building?  Burj Cleveland!

 

AAO urges Cleveland TOD to get bigger
kjprendergast on October 15, 2018

 

All Aboard Ohio, a statewide nonprofit association, is urging Cleveland-area development-related stakeholders to pursue larger-scale Transit-Oriented Developments (TOD) to respond to market forces, social needs, new financing tools and more efficient building techniques. Developers are rediscovering Greater Cleveland’s three-route rail system and two-route Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system as arteries that can provide a foundation for affordable, productive, low-mileage lifestyles that link job seekers to more jobs quickly and easily. More than two dozen rail stations and many more BRT stops have seen transit-supportive real estate developments planned or built.

 

“But the need for more mixed-use development with multi-modal access is huge,” said All Aboard Ohio Executive Director Ken Prendergast. “To ensure more jobs are accessible to more job seekers, we can extend transit to the jobs or bring jobs and housing to existing transit. Right now, with almost no funding available in Greater Cleveland for transit expansion, the best solution is to bring the jobs to high-frequency transit routes, primarily rail and BRT.”

 

To that end, All Aboard Ohio has created a presentation available HERE

 

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http://allaboardohio.org/2018/10/15/aao-urges-cleveland-tod-to-get-bigger/

To me, the problem is not building these high-end TOD projects for people that already have cars, or are moving from car loving suburbia, to be real they aren't dropping their cars to catch the train. Honestly take a look at Shaker, they have rail laid smack dab outside of tons of apartments but they run ghost trains. I wish that we had streetcars that rode through areas that traditionally are more transit dependent and can at least be a feeder to the rail lines. 

^ I live in one of those buildings in Shake on the Blue Line. My condo looks right out over the tracks, and I have never seen a ghost train. When I see them going by during rush hours, they look packed. Even on non-peak hours the trains have a good fill of people. I have also never been alone waiting and getting on/off at my stop, which isn't one of the "main" stops. The rapids are definitely a part of life in Shaker, even for people like me who could drive instead. Everyone around my age who I work with would love to be able to take transit to work - its just not feasible with the current system we have. Even if the people of the new TODs aren't taking the rail for every trip, the option to do so is liberating and certainly makes the location more attractive.

 

I fully agree with adding feeders to the rail routes - be it streetcars, or BRTs (down Northfield from Van Aken Center would be a good start until the Blue Line is extended).

Problem is, there aren't enough places for people to go at more times of the day along the rail lines, aside from Tower City, Ohio City, UC/Little Italy, Windermere, Shaker Square, and a few other stations. That's why more and bigger mixed-use TOD is needed. It's going to take a decade or two at the current pace of development to make much of a difference. The East 79th stations and the East 105th/Quincy station are opportunities to build big from the outset. The planned 100-unit four-story apartment buildings over retail/commercial are welcome. But they won't attract retailers like a 10-story, 300-unit apartment building would. Oh, and many of the developments along the rail lines aren't TOD, not when there's something like 1 parking space for every 100-500 square feet of use.

Good presentation, @KJP - very succinct summary of the benefits of TOD and a "low-mileage lifestyle." I've been an advocate of a "low-mileage lifestyle" for years but I've never heard that terminology before right now, and I like it.

Cleveland Continues Transforming Into Residential Hub

https://www.globest.com/2018/10/18/cleveland-continues-transforming-into-residential-hub/

Could he be any more vague about our development? Looks like he whipped that up in 2 fat minutes.

There were a couple of useful stats in there. But, yes, it's like he had to go somewhere and couldn't finish the article right away yet he submitted it anyway.

 

I was wondering how many other cities have a "microgrid", and what the demand is for that kind of service? I can't tell if this is a cool innovation or an expensive boondoggle.

 

Do we already have a geothermal plant?

15 hours ago, Cavalier Attitude said:

I was wondering how many other cities have a "microgrid", and what the demand is for that kind of service? I can't tell if this is a cool innovation or an expensive boondoggle.

 

Do we already have a geothermal plant?

Cleveland Thermal.

"Cleveland Connects" held a panel last night in collaboration with Louisville and Pittsburgh, to spread some experience and knowledge on becoming an emerging economic center. The panel was streamed on Ideastream from playhouse square. More information here, and of course the the stream.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2018/10/cleveland-connects-panelists-from-louisville-and-pittsburgh-say-cooperation-focus-on-education-and-protecting-your-downtown-are-critical-to-growing-an-economy.html

 

 

Edited October 30, 20186 yr by tastybunns

https://www.ccn.com/major-museum-in-the-us-to-accept-bitcoin-big-win-for-crypto-awareness/

 

The Great Lakes Science Center becomes the 3rd museum in the United States to accept cryptocurrency as payment. Kinda interesting. I'll have to go there this week and pay in crypto to support this.

Great Lakes Science Center is like a step back in time to 1996, nothing has changed since then. The place is sorely in need of a reboot.

Big time. I took my son there last year and it was the first time I'd been there since it opened. It looked almost exactly the same. Only the NASA additions looked new.

Just now, w28th said:

Great Lakes Science Center is like a step back in time to 1996, nothing has changed since then. The place is sorely in need of a reboot.

 

Where does the funding for the Science Center come from?

1 hour ago, w28th said:

Great Lakes Science Center is like a step back in time to 1996, nothing has changed since then. The place is sorely in need of a reboot.

You're so right. Here's a video I shot there recently. 

 

 

I went to a real estate event a few weeks ago in Chicago, and they had a speaker from Cedar St, a development company in Chicago that has made a lot of money in overlooked neighborhoods in Chicago like Uptown by rehabbing old buildings. He was interviewed at the event by a professor from Columbia College and he said that they specialize in overlooked markets and that they are doing a deal in Cleveland as the next market outside of Chicago for them. The professor interviewing him was from Cleveland (originally) and expressed her concern about going into the Cleveland market. He balked at that concern.

 

Does anyone know what that developement is? I can't seem to find any info. The company brands things as "FLATS" as well.

 

One of the original founders was on a Bravo show "100 days of summer" and he died. Jay Michael.

 

This is their website https://cedarst.com/

Edited November 29, 20186 yr by metrocity

Who was the speaker from Cedar Street?

Looking at the pics on the website, I think it was Alex Samoylovich. To be honest, I went with a friend, it was a terrible event, cash bar, weird people. I was pissed I could barely hear the interview because nobody would shut up. I only realized it was cedar street when he started to speak, and I own a condo in uptown so I wanted to hear what he had to say. They really are pioneers in underserved markets around Chicago.

 

The Event was Nov 7 at the Fremont, 15 W Illinois St, Chicago, IL 60654

Edited November 29, 20186 yr by metrocity

Flee to the CLE ?

Ah, now I see that they display their corporate name as "CEDARst" but a quick search of various databases with that name, or "Flats" or "Samoylovich" reveals no leads. I'll try it the old-fashioned way -- talking to people.

Cool video and aerials.

https://mobile.twitter.com/WayUpAerial/status/1069623972759814144

Edited December 4, 20186 yr by MuRrAy HiLL

BTW, I noticed that @mjarboe hasn't had any articles published in a couple of weeks. I hope she is okay.

 

Cleveland City Council backs downtown development aid for Statler Hotel, Rose Building

https://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2018/12/cleveland-city-council-backs-downtown-development-aid-for-statler-hotel-rose-building.html#incart_river_mobile_index

 

She posted one not too long ago....Shake Shack coming to downtown. To the Garfield Building.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/business/2018/12/shake-shack-lines-up-downtown-cleveland-location-at-garfield-building.html

 

 

I also saw they're doing some work on the building....

 

Dougherty Provides $6.8M Refinancing for Apartment Building in Cleveland

http://rebusinessonline.com/dougherty-provides-6-8m-refinancing-for-apartment-building-in-cleveland/

I've been thinking for awhile now that Perry Payne would make a good conversion into condos.

Very intriguing!

 

 

 Abandoned halfway house owned by Fresh Start Inc. at southeast corner of E.55th and Quincy is being scrapped right now. It was definitely an eyesore. Not particularly interesting, but I figured it's random enough and can be noted. First pic Google Streetview, 2nd pic taken this morning.

 

12 hours ago, KJP said:

Very intriguing!

 

 

 

Columbus has been rolling some 50+ them out the past month around Downtown, Short North, German Village, and Campus. They're really great pieces of tech, they are basically 8 foot iPhones on the street with games, transit, cameras, way finding (it will even text you directions), emergency calling, and fairly palatable advertising space and free wifi!

Looks like the old Club Alchemy is looking to reopen.  

 

On the Board of Zoning Appeals January 14th agenda-

 

 9:30 Calendar No. 18-283: 1575 Merwin Avenue Ward 3 Kerry McCormack 10 Notices Target Industries Inc., owner, proposes to re-establish use as a lounge with entertainment in a B3 General Industry District. The owner appeals for relief from the strict application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances: 1. 349.04(e) which states that one for each 6 seats or total parking area equal to 3 times the gross floor area, whichever is greater; is required. No accessory off-street parking is provided. 2. Section 347.12(a)(2) which states that no such use shall be established within five hundred (500) feet of another such use. In this case the proposed use is within 500 feet of the Hustler Club at 1101 Center Street. 3. Section 359.02 which states that a non-conforming use of a building or premises which has been discontinued shall not hereafter be returned to such non-conforming use. (Filed December 11, 2018)

 

Edit- I don't know how to link the google streetview image of the building, but you guys can google the address and check out the building I'm referring to.

 

My bad ?

Edited December 26, 20186 yr by Oldmanladyluck

^ OMG, That is Aquillon/The Lift. Gorgeous space

So many memories there. But @musky has more than probably all of us.

 

BTW this should be in the general Flats development thread.

Edited December 26, 20186 yr by KJP

Ooooooo... interesting. 

 

 

A couple of the developments are mentioned towards the end of the article.

Downtown Marriott lobby renovation:

 

 

Michelle's replacement for a year while she's on maternity leave:

 

 

 

Renovations for 200 Public Square include gutting empty penthouse floor once used for BP executives

Updated Jan 21; Posted 5:00 AM

By Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio – For much of two decades, the top floor of downtown Cleveland’s third-tallest skyscraper has been underused, a reminder of the loss of once-titanic corporate tenants LTV Corp. and, before that, BP America.

 

Now new owners could gut the space, revamping a 1980s executive-dining and meeting floor at the 200 Public Square tower as modern offices with high-rise views of the city. Changes to the building’s 41st floor are among the most dramatic investments that New York-based DRA Advisors and the firm’s local partner, developer Scott Wolstein, are contemplating in the wake of their early October acquisition of the property that many Clevelanders still call the BP Tower.

 

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https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/01/renovations-for-200-public-square-include-gutting-empty-penthouse-floor-once-used-for-bp-executives.html