March 4, 20232 yr @KJPin your December update article on Circle Square, I believe you said something about a 10-15 story hotel being next there for construction- possibly in 2024. Just wondering if there’s information yet on what hotel line it will be- the size of the hotel and whether any design renderings are expected soon. And, if not, if you’ve got a sense of what the timeline might be for them to release any of that information.
March 4, 20232 yr Author @CleveFan No information yet on the hotel. We may not hear anything until it goes to planning commission and I don't expect that until sometime next year or, unless they're aggressive and they submit plans by the end of this year. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 5, 20232 yr As of yesterday, exterior panels were being placed on the apartment portion of Library Lofts, similar concept to those used on the Medley.
March 8, 20232 yr The Artisan is so gorgeous. Even though its design in some ways remains true to the architectural craziness of the patchwork era, it is so well proportioned and seems to have been thought out as a whole. It appears sleek and modern despite all its zigs and zags and flourishes. I hope they don't allow a mix and match of window coverings, which has been detrimental to the Midtown.
March 8, 20232 yr One of the most striking things to me about Artisan (and which you can't really see from pictures) is that from a lot of angles (in the right lighting) it looks like two separate buildings. It's made me do a doubletake multiple times.
March 16, 20232 yr Does anybody know how to add this building in on the Cleveland diagram at skyscraperpage.com?
March 18, 20232 yr When does construction start on the high-rise next to it (on the east side of Stokes)?
March 18, 20232 yr Author Probably after the hotel is built on the west side of Stokes. Unless they get a joint developer who is ready to go... https://neo-trans.blog/2022/12/24/circle-square-looking-ahead/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 18, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, KJP said: Probably after the hotel is built on the west side of Stokes. Unless they get a joint developer who is ready to go... https://neo-trans.blog/2022/12/24/circle-square-looking-ahead/ Very informative article, thank you.
March 18, 20232 yr City Club had expressed interest in University Circle for their secnd project in Cleveland. The timing could work out.
March 24, 20232 yr On 3/3/2023 at 9:09 PM, MyPhoneDead said: University Circle is literally my favorite neighborhood in Ohio. It has the hustle and bustle of a Downtown, the vibrancy of a "college town" and the tranquility of a park/reservation all in one. It is perfectly laid out and has something for everybody. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk As it continues to grow, it seems like it could have a similar energy to Oakland in Pittsburgh. Obviously Case at a hair over 12k students is nothing near Pitt/CMU's ~50k students, but at this point (according to a google search) more people live in UC than Oakland (edit: this is probably wrong hah). As more things get built up and out, it can really, really fly. With that, the city needs to push CCF to have more street retail or something to not kill that energy. Edited March 24, 20232 yr by GISguy Quick google searching did me no good - adjusted Case enrollment and UC/Oakland population note.
March 24, 20232 yr Author Case's total enrollment is actually over 12,000... https://case.edu/ir/cwru-facts/cwru-glance And growing fast... https://neo-trans.blog/2023/02/18/cwru-seeks-more-housing/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 24, 20232 yr 45 minutes ago, GISguy said: at this point (according to a google search) more people live in UC than Oakland. What are you basing this on? My quick Google search suggests the opposite. I see a little over 20k for Oakland and a little under 10k for UC.
March 24, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, Ethan said: What are you basing this on? My quick Google search suggests the opposite. I see a little over 20k for Oakland and a little under 10k for UC. hah I didn't dig in too deeply so you're probably right. What I saw was like 8k (PIT) vs ~9k (CLE) - I didn't dig into census data or anything. Having lived down that way though, I wonder if 20k are permanent residents..
March 27, 20232 yr Author And they still don't have the crane up. Remember that this is two buildings with two jurisdictions, one on top of the other using air rights. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 11, 20232 yr What is especially frustrating about the slow pace is that none of the planned development on the west side of Stokes (I don't know if that is considered Phase 2 or the completion of Phase 1) can begin until LL is totally complete and the MLK branch moves in.
April 14, 20232 yr ^^ It looks as if the library contracted separately for its two floors and the apartment developer's contractors haven't begun yet - as nutty as that sounds. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
April 14, 20232 yr Author 15 minutes ago, Dougal said: ^^ It looks as if the library contracted separately for its two floors and the apartment developer's contractors haven't begun yet - as nutty as that sounds. Bingo! Article coming shortly. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 14, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, CleveFan said: Maybe it’s the same construction team that worked on the Hasawi building in Kent! If you see 3 Amish guys who look to be about 20 years old and they stop working at 3pm then, yes, it is the same crew.
April 14, 20232 yr Author Library Lofts: on time despite appearances By Ken Prendergast / April 14, 2023 Last September, construction crews in Cleveland’s University Circle appeared to be close to topping off a cast-in-place concrete podium within which a new, two-story Martin Luther King Jr. Branch Library will be built and, on top of that a nine-story apartment building will rise. In the six and a half months since, one full story has been added to the podium. And, according to the project’s development team, you won’t see new stories added above it until mid-summer. By just about anyone’s book, that’s a long time getting through a story. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/04/14/library-lofts-on-time-despite-appearances/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 14, 20232 yr This is a great article! I know it may seem like construction on this project is dragging along but this project has a ton of complicated elements. I’m currently working on the Fairfax apartments. Which is essentially two jobs with the Meijer below and apartments above but it’s the same general contractor with many different Subcontractors. Having different owners and GC’s would be tough.
April 15, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, KJP said: Library Lofts: on time despite appearances By Ken Prendergast / April 14, 2023 Last September, construction crews in Cleveland’s University Circle appeared to be close to topping off a cast-in-place concrete podium within which a new, two-story Martin Luther King Jr. Branch Library will be built and, on top of that a nine-story apartment building will rise. In the six and a half months since, one full story has been added to the podium. And, according to the project’s development team, you won’t see new stories added above it until mid-summer. By just about anyone’s book, that’s a long time getting through a story. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/04/14/library-lofts-on-time-despite-appearances/ “CPL had to amend its capital budget to account for the construction cost increases resulting from inflation.” Was the Walz Branch the “amended” party?
April 15, 20232 yr Author 5 hours ago, marty15 said: “CPL had to amend its capital budget to account for the construction cost increases resulting from inflation.” Was the Walz Branch the “amended” party? Not that I've seen. But I don't doubt that its construction costs have escalated. CPL budget documents show an increase in the capital budget, including the use of ARPA money, but I haven't seen how it will be used. I'll circle back to their COO next week. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 15, 20232 yr On 4/10/2023 at 2:43 PM, simplythis said: Why is it slow going Being a library, most of the stories in the completed building will be in the first two floors
May 3, 20232 yr Library Lofts project is picking up steam... (5-3-23) Landscaping on Chester at the Artisan Circle Square is definitely one of the most underrated projects at the moment, imho. Like... Chester just casually has a 250-footer now? Edited May 3, 20232 yr by sonisharri
May 3, 20232 yr Author Here comes the cold-formed steel framing flooring systems and load-bearing walls. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 4, 20232 yr Here comes the cold-formed steel framing flooring systems and load-bearing walls. How I feel liking these kinds of comments: (If you don't know what I'm talking about, look up Francis Bourgeois train guy on YouTube... ... you're welcome) Edited May 4, 20232 yr by ASP1984
May 4, 20232 yr 6 hours ago, ASP1984 said: How I feel liking these kinds of comments: (If you don't know who I'm talking about, look up Francis Bourgeois train guy on YouTube... link... you're welcome) I like watching his videos because they’re ridiculous. My wife on the other hand…
May 4, 20232 yr 16 hours ago, ASP1984 said: How I feel liking these kinds of comments: (If you don't know what I'm talking about, look up Francis Bourgeois train guy on YouTube... ... you're welcome) lol jk, I spend wayyyy too much time on here hahah
May 9, 20232 yr Artisan, yesterday from The Clinic, with Library Lofts construction just to the right Edited May 9, 20232 yr by oat3333
May 11, 20232 yr Bring on the rest of Circle Square! University Circle’s rise is one of the great stories going on in Cleveland - and like a number of great, larger American cities, having more than one downtown is a signature.
May 30, 20232 yr Author County Exec Chris Ronayne toured The Artisan today. Check out that view of downtown! And the art museum! And Our Lady of The Oil Can! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 30, 20232 yr What building is the long 4-5 building with the platform top( upper right ) in the first set of pictures
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