September 11, 20159 yr Library branches don't (normally) get to make decisions about land use. Did the RFP grant them special powers? And if they think they're insulated from tax base concerns, I'd like to know where they got that idea.
September 11, 20159 yr ^I don't really follow. The library owns part of the main development site. They want a replacement branch as a condition to selling. It's all part of the master plan here. The library isn't making decisions about land use any more than the developer is. And this whole thing will probably require some sort of rezoning or variances. What special powers do you think they are being granted?
September 11, 20159 yr ^I don't really follow. The library owns part of the main development site. They want a replacement branch as a condition to selling. It's all part of the master plan here. The library isn't making decisions about land use any more than the developer is. And this whole thing will probably require some sort of rezoning or variances. What special powers do you think they are being granted? Typically the compensation would be FMV, and that's when a private entity is getting pushed out. This is a public entity acting in direct conflict with express public interest, behaving like some little old lady holdout... and getting to choose whatever parcel they want, to use however they want, without regard to law or market value. Seems excessive. I do not recall property owners in the old Flats wielding this kind of power, not even close. What happens the next time there's one holdout in a big redevelopment area? Do they get a parcel on Euclid between the hospitals too? Do they get to put a drive-thru on it, if that's what they want?
September 11, 20159 yr Typically the compensation would be FMV, and that's when a private entity is getting pushed out. This is a public entity acting in direct conflict with express public interest, behaving like some little old lady holdout... and getting to choose whatever parcel they want, to use however they want, without regard to law or market value. Seems excessive. I do not recall property owners in the old Flats wielding this kind of power, not even close. Right, but the old Flat's owners were private owners staring down the barrel of a mayoral administration who said they would use eminent domain to assemble land. This mayor won't use eminent domain, the Ohio Constitution has since been amended to disallow such a practice, and this is a public entity holding land ownership so that analogy doesn't mean much for at least those 3 reasons. The library doesn't have a blank writ of power to do whatever they want in this instance but they do hold a pretty weighty bargaining chip here (the fate of their parcel). Their single story building on Euclid is probably exactly what they bargained for and makes sense.......if you're a public entity completely insulated from the forces private land owners face.
September 11, 20159 yr ^OK, this private versus public stuff is also off the rails. Tell me how awesome Key Bank and Rite Aid did a couple blocks away, not to mention the enormous private land owner immediately to this site's west. The reasons why a single story library is a viable ask for the library is because land is cheap and all non-profit uses, public and private, are tax-exempt. I get the disappointment with a one story library on Euclid, but this whole thing is going a little over-board. For all we know the library would be plenty happy with a site on Chester, but the developer is instead offering this one because it is already under the developer's and UCI's control. [EDIT: this ended up being more fiery than I intended it. Just not sure this is the right place to debate the merits of tax exemption or public versus private. How reasonable the library's likely site requirement are is more on topic, but we don't have a whole lot to go on.]
September 11, 20159 yr Tell me how awesome Key Bank and Rite Aid did a couple blocks away, not to mention the enormous private land owner immediately to this site's west. If the UC3 development and Innova are the successes we hope them to be, I guarantee Key Bank and Rite Aid will do sale-leaseback agreements with developers who will build multistory buildings on their locations within a few years time. Their current sites were built during a very different time in that area's history.
September 11, 20159 yr Author As Michelle noted, this is all very conceptual. I suspect the final building plan that gets approved won't be the same broad brush we're looking at today. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 14, 20159 yr Author "Eds & Meds" Continue To Drive Demand For Cleveland Housing Monday, September 14, 2015 at 1:49 am A proposal to add over 700 apartments to Cleveland's University Circle was floated last week. This rapidly growing neighborhood has seen an influx of new housing and retail, over the past five years. It's part of a growing demand for new housing across the city. As home to Case Western Reserve University, University Hospitals and the Cleveland Clinic, the Circle area is Cleveland's second largest employment hub. It's a local example of a national development phenomenon where the close proximity of universities and medical facilities provide an economic punch. "They call it Eds and Meds," says Robert Simons, professor of Urban Planning and Design at Cleveland State University. He says there's a pent-up demand for nearby housing that was dampened by the recession of 2008. MORE: http://www.ideastream.org/news/eds-meds-continue-drive-demand-cleveland-housing "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 16, 20159 yr Author "mjarboe[/member]: Settling in for a community meeting re: proposed UC3 project at Chester and Stokes in @inthecircle. http://t.co/NwHlcwN1MS #CRE #CLE" "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 17, 20159 yr Michelle's tweet stream from last night: Michelle J. McFee mjarboe[/member] - Settling in for a community meeting re: proposed UC3 project at Chester and Stokes in @inthecircle. http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2015/09/university_circle_proposal_cou.html … #CRE #CLE ----- Councilman Kevin Conwell is talking re: his wish for grocer in UC3 project at University Circle's edge. Wishes for Heinen's or Mustard Seed. ----- Developer Steve Rubin, part of UC3 team, says "we're not going to just build a building, sell it and exit." Focused on long-term hold. #CRE ----- We saw opportunity to be additive, connective, make a place where walkability, pedestrianism could be celebrated, UC3 developer says. #CRE ----- Street-level retail, community spaces at proposed UC3 project would be 20 feet tall, developer tells crowd at community meeting. #CLE #CRE ----- Stokes Boulevard, under UC3 developer's proposal, would have 20-foot-wide sidewalks, slower traffic between Judson Manor and Fenway Manor. ----- UC3 developer talks re: "amenity retail," described as restaurants and places for everyday errands, such as grocery, fitness, banking, etc. ----- Steve Rubin, part of UC3 team, says developers are "100% committed" to exceeding city requirements for hiring minorities, women, small biz.
September 17, 20159 yr I get that everybody loves grocery stores, but isn't there a grocery store going into Innova?
September 17, 20159 yr If so, this seems like a good place for another. Less schlepping distance = more walkability.
September 18, 20159 yr They better hope they get a bigger Mustard Seed than the new one in Highland Square in Akron.
November 11, 20159 yr Not much content now but good to keep an eye on. http://midwestdevpartners.com/
November 18, 20159 yr Ordinance No. xxx-15(Ward 9/Councilmember Conwell): Authorizing the City of Cleveland to enter into an Option agreement and sale of Third District Police Station at 10600 Chester and greenspace on Chester to UC City Center for redevelopment; and an agreement with UC City Center to make improvements and authorize a property adoption agreement. Ordinance No. xxx-15(Ward 9/Councilmember Conwell): Authorizing the Director of Economic Development to enter into a loan agreement with UC City Center to assist with demolition and asbestos abatement costs. Ordinance No. xxx-15(Ward 9/Councilmember Conwell): Authorizing the City of Cleveland to acquire and re-convey parcels owned by UC City Center at 10600 and 10605 Chester for the purpose of entering into the chain-of-title required for a tax increment financing agreement (TIF). http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2015/11202015/index.php
January 8, 20169 yr Author Council set to greenlight University Circle apartment project More apartments for University Circle? Andrew Horansky 3:25 p.m. EST January 5, 2016 CLEVELAND -- Later this month, Cleveland City Council is expected to give the go-ahead to a project that would add more than 1,000 apartments to University Circle. The mixed-use property would go where the old Cleveland Police District 3 station and the Martin Luther King, Jr. library now sit. WKYC's Andrew Horansky brings you the details. MORE: http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/cleveland/2016/01/05/council-set-to-greenlight-university-circle-apartment-project/78314684/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 8, 20169 yr Council set to greenlight University Circle apartment project More apartments for University Circle? Andrew Horansky 3:25 p.m. EST January 5, 2016 CLEVELAND -- Later this month, Cleveland City Council is expected to give the go-ahead to a project that would add more than 1,000 apartments to University Circle. The mixed-use property would go where the old Cleveland Police District 3 station and the Martin Luther King, Jr. library now sit. WKYC's Andrew Horansky brings you the details. MORE: http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/cleveland/2016/01/05/council-set-to-greenlight-university-circle-apartment-project/78314684/ Did he just do a news story from a cellphone?
January 8, 20169 yr Author Did he just do a news story from a cellphone? Budgets for news media continue to be slashed... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 8, 20169 yr Did he just do a news story from a cellphone? Budgets for news media continue to be slashed... Wait they seriously are cutting back on cameramen? I know photographers are being eliminated but I would imagine television news camera men are too vital to a news operation to eliminate....
January 8, 20169 yr Wait they seriously are cutting back on cameramen? I know photographers are being eliminated but I would imagine television news camera men are too vital to a news operation to eliminate.... It's common in smaller markets for one reporter to go out, set up a tripod, stand in front of it and talk and then go back to the newsroom and edit this story. In larger market, that would historically involve several people but cost cutting, the death of unions and technology is causing it to be more common everywhere.
January 9, 20169 yr Interesting posts, but they probably belong in a media thread. Let's steer the conversation back on this topic.
January 23, 20169 yr Author I overlooked a small hint in the last CPC agenda that this development is progressing.... City Planning Commission Agenda for January 15, 2016 ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS Resolution No. 1513-15(Ward 9/Councilmember Conwell): Declaring the intent to vacate a portion of Reserve Court N.E. UC3 Reserve Court-map by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 18, 20169 yr Author City Planning Commission Agenda for February 19, 2016 http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2016/02192016/index.php EC2015-041 – Proposed Demolition of a 4-Story Office Building: Seeking Final Approval Project Address: 10605 Chester Avenue Project Representative: Zac Ponsky, Midwest Development Partners Interesting that they included this view of the new Cleveland Clinic substations (which should never have been built here).... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 4, 20168 yr 10541 EUCLID AVE CLEVELAND Sales Date 9/30/2016 Amount $450,000 Buyer UC3 LAND HOLDINGS ONE LLC Seller BEAL AUTO SERVICE INC Deed type WARRANTY D Land value $72,000 Building value $47,600 Total value $119,600 Parcel 119-20-010 Property Auto repair garage http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2009/06/find_cuyahoga_county_property.html?appSession=38335053700928372965590847197397642130174474400333680358754330805743668295519019483769470078188971049425030251037806677613223614&RecordID=603078&PageID=8&PrevPageID=2&cpipage=5&CPIsortType=&CPIorderBy=&cbCurrentRecordPosition=431&Mod0LinkToDetails=True
October 4, 20168 yr Author I hope the Cleveland Clinic substation just north of is next. But that would be a pricey purchase and moving the substation. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 2, 20168 yr Author Oops, thanks. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 18, 20168 yr Author Here's a sign of progress.... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2016/11182016/index.php Ordinance No. 1358-16(Ward 9/Councilmember Conwell): Changing the Use, Area and Height Districts and establishing an Urban Core Overlay District between Chester Avenue and Euclid Avenue west of Martin Luther King, Jr., Drive and east of East 105th Street. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 5, 20178 yr Author I'm a little late with this, but Midwest Development Partners continues to acquire property for its UC3 development. On March 31, it recorded five property transfers including the former District 3 police station (also involves taking the rounded-off turn lane from Chester Avenue eastbound to Stokes/107th southbound) as well as the park land and two roadways between Stokes/107th and Stearns (under a funky company name: UC3 STOKES LAND LLC). This was all city-owned land. The MLK Branch of the Cleveland Public Library remains a library-owned property as of today, according to county records. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 31, 20177 yr Author Probably not a project sponsored by Midwest Development Partners but it's definitely surrounded by their proposed UC3 development..... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=2570&CASE=EC%202017-025 FENWAY MANOR APARTMENTS RENOVATION Project Information Euclid Corridor Case # EC 2017-025 Address: 1986 Stokes Blvd. Company: City Architecture BTW, this is the only building within one block of the Euclid-East 105th intersection that survived the total demolition of Cleveland's "second downtown." Perhaps UC3 and One University Circle across the street can be that second downtown again. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 31, 20177 yr Author A great idea to help subsidize the construction costs of this development. Use the new library for a building foundation... Cleveland Public Library launches global design competition for MLK Branch in University Circle (photos) Updated on October 16, 2017 at 9:45 AM Posted on October 16, 2017 at 5:50 AM By Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer CLEVELAND, Ohio - Architects, listen up: The Cleveland Public Library in collaboration with the Cleveland Foundation, is holding a global competition to choose the designer for the new Martin Luther King Jr. Library Branch in University Circle. Initial responses to the request for qualifications are due Nov. 27, and the library hopes to sign a contract with the winning firm by June, and to begin construction in 2019. Full details of competition phases including the initial "request for qualifications" will be available via the library's website Monday. MORE:http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2017/10/cleveland_public_library_launc.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 5, 20187 yr Author This transfer sounds like either a paper transfer (David Orleans is listed as the principal of both the seller and the buyer) or, more likely given the price involved, a sign that David Orleans is buying this building on his own, separate from the multiple partners who comprised Fenway Manor Ltd (the Orleans Company, Arthur E. Orlean, and First March Realty Corp.). Either way, this currently is the tallest building within the footprint of the proposed Circle Square development.... 10651 EUCLID AVE CLEVELAND Sales Date 12/28/2017 Amount $3,375,000 Buyer FENWAY PRESERVATION ASSOCIATES LLC Seller FENWAY MANOR LTD. Deed type LIMITED WA Land value $125,700 Building value $2,488,900 Total value $2,614,600 Parcel 119-20-016 Property Apartments 40 or more units (elevator) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 6, 20187 yr BTW, this is the only building within one block of the Euclid-East 105th intersection that survived the total demolition of Cleveland's "second downtown." Perhaps UC3 and One University Circle across the street can be that second downtown again. What do you mean by "second downtown" exactly? From those massing studies it looks like they want to do something about that Chester-Euclid-MLK intersection. Right now it's a mess that cuts off the neighborhood and contains a bunch of wasted green space. Can I dream about seeing that turned into a nice big traffic circle one day?
January 6, 20187 yr BTW, this is the only building within one block of the Euclid-East 105th intersection that survived the total demolition of Cleveland's "second downtown." Perhaps UC3 and One University Circle across the street can be that second downtown again. What do you mean by "second downtown" exactly? From those massing studies it looks like they want to do something about that Chester-Euclid-MLK intersection. Right now it's a mess that cuts off the neighborhood and contains a bunch of wasted green space. Can I dream about seeing that turned into a nice big traffic circle one day? Beleive he is talking about Doan's Corners https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/49?tour=43&index=7 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/105th_and_Euclid
January 31, 20187 yr Some movement on the design competition for the library portion along Euclid: http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2018/01/post_4.html Cleveland Public Library names nine semifinalists in MLK Branch design competition CLEVELAND, Ohio - The Cleveland Public Library has whittled the number of teams competing to design its new $10 million Martin Luther King Jr. Branch in University Circle from 31 entrants to nine semifinalists, and plans to announce three finalists on Feb. 15. The library released the semifinalists' names to The Plain Dealer on Tuesday. A request for qualifications began in October; entrants had to meet a Nov. 27 deadline to propose teams. The nine teams remaining include firms from New York, Chicago, Boston and in one case, Paris, France, that are paired with Cleveland-based firms. ... 1. SO-IL, Brooklyn, N.Y., and JKURTZ Architects, Cleveland, with: Brightspot Strategy, programming strategy; GPD Group, engineering; Tec Studio, lighting, information technology; Nesnadny + Schwartz, wayfinding consultant. 2. Condition Architecture, Brooklyn, N.Y., and Hasenstab Architects, Akron. 3. John Ronan Architects, Chicago, with: Michael Boucher, landscape architecture; Shen Milsom & Wilke, acoustics; dbHMS, engineers, sustainability. 4. Bialosky + Partners, Cleveland, and Vines Architecture, Raleigh, NC, with: WeShouldDoItAll, environmental graphics. 5. MASS Design Group, Boston MA, and LDA Architects, Cleveland, with: Sarah Lewis, Anisfield-Wolf exhibition consultant. (Cleveland architect Chris Maurer is listed as part of the MASS team). 6. Clement Blanchet Architecture, Paris, France, and City Architecture, Cleveland, with: WSP Cleveland, engineering; Boulevard Studios, landscape architecture; Ducks Sceno, scenography and multimedia.
January 31, 20187 yr Wow, UC is actually becoming a new downtown. I mean gentrification aside I think they manage to hold their own pretty well. Some really interesting architecture vert and low-rise, an insane health network, a prestigious university, and the walk-ability there just towers over most big cities. Public transportation just hit it on the bullseye here, rapids, health line down Euclid, and there's just access everywhere. Just a lot of things just made the perfect soup, and now it's ready to be served.
January 31, 20187 yr Some movement on the design competition for the library portion along Euclid: http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2018/01/post_4.html Cleveland Public Library names nine semifinalists in MLK Branch design competition CLEVELAND, Ohio - The Cleveland Public Library has whittled the number of teams competing to design its new $10 million Martin Luther King Jr. Branch in University Circle from 31 entrants to nine semifinalists, and plans to announce three finalists on Feb. 15. The library released the semifinalists' names to The Plain Dealer on Tuesday. A request for qualifications began in October; entrants had to meet a Nov. 27 deadline to propose teams. The nine teams remaining include firms from New York, Chicago, Boston and in one case, Paris, France, that are paired with Cleveland-based firms. ... 1. SO-IL, Brooklyn, N.Y., and JKURTZ Architects, Cleveland, with: Brightspot Strategy, programming strategy; GPD Group, engineering; Tec Studio, lighting, information technology; Nesnadny + Schwartz, wayfinding consultant. 2. Condition Architecture, Brooklyn, N.Y., and Hasenstab Architects, Akron. 3. John Ronan Architects, Chicago, with: Michael Boucher, landscape architecture; Shen Milsom & Wilke, acoustics; dbHMS, engineers, sustainability. 4. Bialosky + Partners, Cleveland, and Vines Architecture, Raleigh, NC, with: WeShouldDoItAll, environmental graphics. 5. MASS Design Group, Boston MA, and LDA Architects, Cleveland, with: Sarah Lewis, Anisfield-Wolf exhibition consultant. (Cleveland architect Chris Maurer is listed as part of the MASS team). 6. Clement Blanchet Architecture, Paris, France, and City Architecture, Cleveland, with: WSP Cleveland, engineering; Boulevard Studios, landscape architecture; Ducks Sceno, scenography and multimedia. Wouldn't it be better to hold this design competition after the building it will connect to is fleshed out?
January 31, 20187 yr BTW, this is the only building within one block of the Euclid-East 105th intersection that survived the total demolition of Cleveland's "second downtown." Perhaps UC3 and One University Circle across the street can be that second downtown again. What do you mean by "second downtown" exactly? From those massing studies it looks like they want to do something about that Chester-Euclid-MLK intersection. Right now it's a mess that cuts off the neighborhood and contains a bunch of wasted green space. Can I dream about seeing that turned into a nice big traffic circle one day? Beleive he is talking about Doan's Corners https://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/49?tour=43&index=7 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/105th_and_Euclid Maybe the famous intersection should be renamed "Willis Corners".
February 15, 20187 yr Author .@Cleveland_PL chooses 3 finalists in MLK branch design competition: @SolidObjectives w/ JKURTZ Architects; @MASSDesignLab w/ LDA Architects; & @Bialosky_Arch w/ @VINE_Architects: https://t.co/dZtbzTIqaU "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 5, 20187 yr Author .@Cleveland_PL to unveil trio of competing designs for new MLK library branch, first building in large mixed-use project planned at University Circle’s edge. via @steven_litt https://t.co/J3qbTeil76 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 10, 20187 yr Author Tonight @Cleveland_PL MLK branch 3 world class design teams present their vision for a new 21st Century library inspired by Dr. King's legacy of social justice. 5to7 PM. Get there! @MASSDesignLab @Bialosky_Arch @SolidObjectives @cleveLANDstudio "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 10, 20187 yr As these UC Square plans come together and Upper Chester continues to develop, I get more and more pissed at the Clinic for what they've done to the SW and SE corner of Chester and 105th. I get that they don't want to develop stuff themselves that would make adjacent areas decent places to live and walk through, but to actively thwart that effort with that suburban format drug store, and even more so with that freaking power substation is pretty obnoxious. That power substation in particular is ridiculous.
May 10, 20187 yr I would think a CVS with apartments over it would be fitting... most new buildings are like that in DC...
May 11, 20187 yr http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2018/05/cleveland_public_library_unvei.html Cleveland Public Library unveils 3 competing proposals for new MLK Library in University Circle (photos)
May 11, 20187 yr http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2018/05/cleveland_public_library_unvei.html Cleveland Public Library unveils 3 competing proposals for new MLK Library in University Circle (photos) I like the SO-ll one the best, but I'm not in love with it.
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