August 21, 20231 yr Don't want to jump to any conclusions but there's some more movement at the Kroger Bakery site
August 22, 20231 yr @CbusOrBust peeking through fences to get us good development shots Edited August 22, 20231 yr by TH3BUDDHA
December 20, 20231 yr Columbus developer Casto eyes 2024 construction starts for Kroger Bakery and River & Rich second phase Casto, one of Central Ohio's busiest developers, plans to start several big Columbus-area projects in the new year. On the list: a second phase of the River & Rich development in Franklinton, and the redevelopment of the former Kroger Bakery site near Italian Village. River & Rich's second phase, with 235 apartments and about 8,000 square feet of commercial space, was announced in 2021. Casto President Brent Sobczak said the groundbreaking should occur in in the first quarter of 2024. The Kroger Bakery redevelopment – another Casto-Kelley-Weiler teamup – has also been in the works for several years, since the partners bought the site in 2019. Sobczak said the project had been delayed because of the current market challenges including high material costs and interest rates. When finished, the project is set to include 427 apartments, 8,850 square feet of retail space and 49,000 square feet of offices. The project has been awarded brownfield remediation funds and a state historic tax credit. Historic tax credits typically have a two-year time limit for projects to start, but applicants can ask for an extension if they're making progress toward the project, according to the state. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/12/19/casto-river-rich-kroger-bakery-apartments-developm.html Edited December 20, 20231 yr by Luvcbus
December 20, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, Luvcbus said: Columbus developer Casto eyes 2024 construction starts for Kroger Bakery and River & Rich second phase Casto, one of Central Ohio's busiest developers, plans to start several big Columbus-area projects in the new year. On the list: a second phase of the River & Rich development in Franklinton, and the redevelopment of the former Kroger Bakery site near Italian Village. River & Rich's second phase, with 235 apartments and about 8,000 square feet of commercial space, was announced in 2021. Casto President Brent Sobczak said the groundbreaking should occur in in the first quarter of 2024. The Kroger Bakery redevelopment – another Casto-Kelley-Weiler teamup – has also been in the works for several years, since the partners bought the site in 2019. Sobczak said the project had been delayed because of the current market challenges including high material costs and interest rates. When finished, the project is set to include 427 apartments, 8,850 square feet of retail space and 49,000 square feet of offices. The project has been awarded brownfield remediation funds and a state historic tax credit. Historic tax credits typically have a two-year time limit for projects to start, but applicants can ask for an extension if they're making progress toward the project, according to the state. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/12/19/casto-river-rich-kroger-bakery-apartments-developm.html It's that 49,000 sqft of office that I really am liking!
January 29, 20241 yr This is now called Assembly. It was the only Columbus project to win TMUD funding this round. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/29/kroger-bakery-redevelopment-ohio-tax-credit.html
January 29, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, aderwent said: This is now called Assembly. It was the only Columbus project to win TMUD funding this round. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/29/kroger-bakery-redevelopment-ohio-tax-credit.html They're ditching the Kroger history in favor of the Ford.
January 29, 20241 yr 23 minutes ago, columbus17 said: They're ditching the Kroger history in favor of the Ford. As they should
January 29, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, VintageLife said: As they should Would love to see them give it “The View” treatment.
January 29, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, VintageLife said: As they should I think they should address both, it was a bakery longer than it was an auto factory. And that's more relevant to living memory of anyone in the city. The Ford Motor Company built this substantial brick factory with ornamental white terra cotta trim across Cleveland Avenue from Fort Hayes in 1914. Designed by Ford Architect John Graham, Model T parts arrived by train and were assembled here and distributed to area dealerships until c1925. Assembly at this site ended in 1932 and the plant closed in 1939. The building was later adapted as an expansion of the neighboring commercial bakery for the Kroger Company where 14 production lines filled downtown Columbus with a sweet aroma for 80+ years. The Kroger Bakery closed in February 2019 Edited January 29, 20241 yr by 17thState Clarity/Spelling
January 30, 20241 yr 17 hours ago, 17thState said: I think they should address both, it was a bakery longer than it was an auto factory. And that's more relevant to living memory of anyone in the city. The Ford Motor Company built this substantial brick factory with ornamental white terra cotta trim across Cleveland Avenue from Fort Hayes in 1914. Designed by Ford Architect John Graham, Model T parts arrived by train and were assembled here and distributed to area dealerships until c1925. Assembly at this site ended in 1932 and the plant closed in 1939. The building was later adapted as an expansion of the neighboring commercial bakery for the Kroger Company where 14 production lines filled downtown Columbus with a sweet aroma for 80+ years. The Kroger Bakery closed in February 2019 I do miss the entire Warehouse District smelling like donuts. Simpler times.
January 30, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, PizzaScissors said: I do miss the entire Warehouse District smelling like donuts. Simpler times. Now it smells like trucks from that annoying Abbot. I will never shut up about how horrible of an idea their location is downtown.
January 30, 20241 yr Had there not been so much demo on Spring and north it wouldn't be so damn prominent.
January 30, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, GCrites said: Had there not been so much demo on Spring and north it wouldn't be so damn prominent. Its the trucks. They are a nightmare on Cleveland and Vine. So that's fine, it was there, we learned. WRONG! Some idiot thought why not build a giant warehouse for Rogue in the middle of a neighborhood. These are the warehouses that took up a meager 4-6 story building downtown on a small footprint. These sprawl several city blocks. We don't have any shipping ports that would make them justifiable downtown. Those things need to go by the interstates (and not 670 which is merely a connector).
January 30, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, columbus17 said: Its the trucks. They are a nightmare on Cleveland and Vine. So that's fine, it was there, we learned. WRONG! Some idiot thought why not build a giant warehouse for Rogue in the middle of a neighborhood. These are the warehouses that took up a meager 4-6 story building downtown on a small footprint. These sprawl several city blocks. We don't have any shipping ports that would make them justifiable downtown. Those things need to go by the interstates (and not 670 which is merely a connector). Are you saying the warehouse that was demolished on the corner of Mt Vernon, Neilston, and E Naghten was due to Abbott pressuring them due to their trucks?
January 30, 20241 yr Kroger Bakery Redevelopment Lands ‘Critical’ Tax Credit A plan to redevelop the former Kroger Bakery complex north of Downtown has been awarded state Transformational Mixed-Use Development tax credits, and work is expected to start on the project later this year. The awards were announced yesterday by Governor Mike DeWine and Ohio Department of Development Director Lydia Mihalik. Local developers Casto Communities, Kelley Companies and the Robert Weiler Company plan to renovate the two former bakery buildings on the site and construct three new buildings around them. The 9.4-acre complex, which sits at 457 Cleveland Ave., will hold a total of 363 apartments, in addition to office and retail space. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/kroger-bakery-redevelopment-lands-key-tax-credit-bw1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 30, 20241 yr 47 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Kroger Bakery Redevelopment Lands ‘Critical’ Tax Credit A plan to redevelop the former Kroger Bakery complex north of Downtown has been awarded state Transformational Mixed-Use Development tax credits, and work is expected to start on the project later this year. The awards were announced yesterday by Governor Mike DeWine and Ohio Department of Development Director Lydia Mihalik. Local developers Casto Communities, Kelley Companies and the Robert Weiler Company plan to renovate the two former bakery buildings on the site and construct three new buildings around them. The 9.4-acre complex, which sits at 457 Cleveland Ave., will hold a total of 363 apartments, in addition to office and retail space. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/kroger-bakery-redevelopment-lands-key-tax-credit-bw1/ It still annoys me that they put 3 entry points in this development. People can’t enter at the north side and dive around? Makes it way less of a good urban environment. It has the potential to be a gravity type area and it isn’t anything close.
January 31, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, KyleofColumbus said: Are you saying the warehouse that was demolished on the corner of Mt Vernon, Neilston, and E Naghten was due to Abbott pressuring them due to their trucks? No, not at all (though that wouldn't surprise me now that I think of it). No, I mean why we have any sort of manufacturing/industrial - especially at that scale - downtown blows my mind. It's not smart and it only causes problems.
January 31, 20241 yr Author 12 hours ago, columbus17 said: No, not at all (though that wouldn't surprise me now that I think of it). No, I mean why we have any sort of manufacturing/industrial - especially at that scale - downtown blows my mind. It's not smart and it only causes problems. The entire north side of downtown was industrial historically due to the railroads. It's only changed in the last 2 decades.
February 8, 20241 yr Just saw a picture of Fort Hayes back in the day. I wish that the school would sell that property, or at least try to get funding to restore all the buildings on site. It has cool history and the buildings all look great. I know some of them are used, but I hope the city decides to move all the busses and everything somewhere else in the future.
February 8, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, VintageLife said: Just saw a picture of Fort Hayes back in the day. I wish that the school would sell that property, or at least try to get funding to restore all the buildings on site. It has cool history and the buildings all look great. I know some of them are used, but I hope the city decides to move all the busses and everything somewhere else in the future. Or maybe we could get a jeffrey park like development here?
February 8, 20241 yr 35 minutes ago, 614love said: Or maybe we could get a jeffrey park like development here? If they restored the current buildings I would be fine with that.
February 9, 20241 yr 10 hours ago, VintageLife said: Just saw a picture of Fort Hayes back in the day. I wish that the school would sell that property, or at least try to get funding to restore all the buildings on site. It has cool history and the buildings all look great. I know some of them are used, but I hope the city decides to move all the busses and everything somewhere else in the future. There is a lot of property along E. 5th that would be able to accommodate a large bus facility and be way closer to main thoroughfares.
February 20, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, CbusOrBust said: Looks like some early work is underway at Assembly Definitely going full steam ahead now.
March 11, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, CbusOrBust said: Continuing to ramp up at Assembly I don’t remember from the renderings but they are using the older style looking windows right, the ones that mimic the original?
March 12, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, VintageLife said: I don’t remember from the renderings but they are using the older style looking windows right, the ones that mimic the original? Yes.
March 12, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, columbus17 said: Yes. Thank god, I guess to get historical tax credit you have to, so I should have figured.
April 13, 20241 yr Kind of hard to see, but it looks like crews may have started ripping up the old parking lot at Assembly
April 16, 20241 yr Had a chance to check back today at Assembly and can confirm, they have started ripping up the parking lot in the back part of the site! (Again, it's kind of hard to see- this is as close as I could get)
May 5, 20241 yr Site Plan breakdown and some renderings on what to expect at Assembly https://www.realmcollaborative.com/work/kroger
May 8, 20241 yr Early work has began on the portion of the existing buildings that face Cleveland Ave And on the other side of the site, crews continue to rip up the old parking lot
June 29, 2024Jun 29 Few more looks at Assembly... Existing buildings along Cleveland Ave It appears dirt is turning where one of the new buildings will rise Crews continue to rip up the old parking lot as work moves east toward Cleveland Ave
August 7, 2024Aug 7 After a month of steady progress this worksite has been completely empty for three weeks now. There used to be 20+ cars of workers every day. Plus all the demo work, tractors, etc. The last three weeks there have been zero workers. Just waiting on permits? You'd think they'd have those lined up after waiting for multiple different kinds of funding to come through.
October 9, 2024Oct 9 Not sure if this is the right thread, but has anything been happening at the Kroger Bakery site? The redevelopment plans for that were extremely transformative. I haven't seen much on that project and I was just curious.
October 9, 2024Oct 9 29 minutes ago, MissinOhio said: Not sure if this is the right thread, but has anything been happening at the Kroger Bakery site? The redevelopment plans for that were extremely transformative. I haven't seen much on that project and I was just curious. No one has been on site since July 4th.
October 9, 2024Oct 9 8 minutes ago, aderwent said: No one has been on site since July 4th. They should just fix up the bakery building and then sell the whole property so someone else can design something.
October 9, 2024Oct 9 3 hours ago, VintageLife said: They should just fix up the bakery building and then sell the whole property so someone else can design something. With rate cuts and no news or movement, I sense this one becoming dead.
October 14, 2024Oct 14 Didn't they win a transformative tax credit though? How does that work if the project fails even after receiving that?
November 21, 2024Nov 21 On 10/14/2024 at 8:59 AM, TIm said: Didn't they win a transformative tax credit though? How does that work if the project fails even after receiving that? They won $3.5 million in TMUD credits. They also got $4.7 million for remediation; which appears to be all they've done. They also got $5 million for historic preservation in 2021 and $10 million earlier this year. Yet it has remained empty (besides probable squatters) since at least July 4th.
November 21, 2024Nov 21 3 hours ago, aderwent said: They won $3.5 million in TMUD credits. They also got $4.7 million for remediation; which appears to be all they've done. They also got $5 million for historic preservation in 2021 and $10 million earlier this year. Yet it has remained empty (besides probable squatters) since at least July 4th. This one’s a complete head scratcher.
November 21, 2024Nov 21 1 hour ago, columbus17 said: This one’s a complete head scratcher. Sounds fishy to me.... Where did the money go?
November 22, 2024Nov 22 They don't get it until the work is done, I'm pretty sure Quote Issuance of the tax credit will occur after the project is completed and certified to the Tax Credit Authority. Tax credits will either be issued as the project reaches tax collection thresholds or in a lump sum if the applicant qualifies for the alternative method of approval. https://development.ohio.gov/business/state-incentives/transformational-mixed-use-development-program
November 22, 2024Nov 22 6 minutes ago, Imwalle said: They don't get it until the work is done, I'm pretty sure https://development.ohio.gov/business/state-incentives/transformational-mixed-use-development-program Yeah, I'm pretty sure they don’t just get the money, they have to meet certain deadlines and have to actually start work. My guess is they got part of it to start clean up, but haven’t done anything since then. Im still hoping they sell and someone else comes in with a better plan
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