ok, you live in an apartment...last time i checked that is not a HOUSE (ROW+HOUSE).

 

 

well anyway, i'm not the only one

 

How dense is too dense?

 

That's the question being debated by the developers and residents of the Doe Mill Neighborhood in southeast Chico, where quaint houses sit side-by-side on small lots in a throwback to the grid-like, "walkable" streets of the pre-World War II era--a concept called new urbanism.

 

John Whitmore moved to Doe Mill a year ago because he liked the idea. But now, he and some other residents say New Urban Builders is going too far, planning to build three-story row houses totaling 38 units in all and selling in the high $200,000's and low $300,000's.

 

http://www.newsreview.com/chico/Content?oid=oid%3A43129

necromantical,

 

KJP was making the point that he does not mind living close to others, and apparently neither does the people that live with him. Appartment/style condo, rowhouse, townhouse, all have the same idea people living close to eachother with shared walls and having no problems with it. They perhaps pefer living closer to their neighbors and dont desire to have a huge yard.

 

YOU necromantical obviously dont like it, fine by me. But you assume since you dont like it, some others must not like it, therefore nobody should make it. There is a resurgance in cleveland in townhouse/rowhouse built homes along with apartment-style condos. Why? because people want it. Developers dont build what people dont want.

 

Me personaly, I think the trend of townhouse style development will continue to grow. I belive this because it serves the market segment that has no need for yards, that has been underserved in the housing market. Probably for at least 20 years most new construction has been detached single family homes, and not much townhouse construction. Its kinda like when everyone was buying  and making SUV's, and not much else. Now its alot of small-fuel efficent vehicles.

Necromantical,

 

We fully understand your personal preferences and no one is suggesting that you live in a townhouse. But we don't understand your desire to reference your preference in an attempt to explain away a surge in demand for dense urban living. Your article is about a suburban cluster development.  I don't see how that sector of the market reflects the current trend in urban townhouse development.  This is an odd thread.  Did a townhouse do you wrong at some point in your life?

Thanks for the back-up Smackem81. That's exactly what I was saying. I guess it was a simple "concept association" after all -- but apparently not simple enough.

i dk there necro....

 

it seems to me much of the new construction in cleveland i read about here and elsewhere is row/town house construction. oh hey why what do you know here is one such development i found just today:

 

 

Thursday, February 16, 2006

By DAVID PLATA

West Side Sun News

An 11-unit townhouse development resembling an Italian villa is planned near St. Roccos Church, helping revitalize a stretch of Fulton Road.

 

The project, estimated to cost up to 2.9 million, will be built on a less than one-acre parcel on the east side of Fulton between Meyer and Roehl avenues.

 

Its something new in the area, something different and something to motivate the neighborhood to change, said Councilman Joe Santiago, D-14, in whose ward the project is planned. With all the boarded-up buildings in that area, we have to start somewhere.

   

Planned without city aid, although that could change, the project is designed by architect Jake Stopp.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/sun/westsidesunnews/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1140111898174560.xml&coll=3

ok...you are all right...people wanting space, and a fron a backyard had nothing to do with the lack of rowhouses in Cleveland.

Necro,

 

Cities developed in certain ways because of industry and transportation patterns.  Cleveland grew during the streetcar period.  This opened up acres of development outside the city to developers.  Cleveland had some horrible pollution back in the day.  Nobody wanted to live near the mills. Because there was so much available land, it was much easier to give people "a home in the country away from the soot and smoke."   So, they moved as far east as they could so that the pollution would disperse enough by the time that it hit the Heights.  Other cities didn't have that pollution, so people chose to live closer to downtown in rowhouses and apartments.  Sure, some people want space. Others don't.  However, a desire for space in and of itself was not the reason why Cleveland did not build so many rowhouses 100 years ago.  But if you look at old pictures of Cleveland, you'll also see a much much denser city with apartment buildings galore.  Those were different times for Cleveland, but many many people are now working to rebuild that city so that it will be denser because that is what the market wants.  Would someone pay $1 million for a 2300 sq ft suburban home? No.  But, they are buying $1 million lofts and townhomes that have same amount of square footage. 

I searched for the thread on UO where someone was interested in renting a rowhouse. I saw 2 for rent signs on the rowhouses on Prospect just west of 36th-they are beauty's from the exterior-perhaps the most lovely in Cleveland unless I have missed something. I am unsure if the rental is whole house or they are divided. Anyway, just putting that out there.

I think those are office space now, not residential.

Hm thats interesting. Was this due to avaliable land?

Thats kind of how Indy developed.