9 hours ago, Pugu said:

 

Fresh ideas are not always good ideas. Bibb is too clueless to run the city in the right direction. He's the young Kucinich of the 2020's except less of a hot head. I realize its too late for your ballot, and those already cast for him, but I hope he finishes #3 or lower....

 

Also--how's this for "fresh ideas"?

 

Should tax dollars be used to upgrade Progressive Field?

Bibb:  Yes

DiBello: No

(source:  WEWS)

 

 

4 hours ago, Cleburger said:

Bibb is being honest. 

 

The others?  They will tell you (while campaigning) "hell no."  But once in office they realize that they are the landlord and don't want to lose the tenant and along with them, the city pride.   So think what you want, but any one of those candidates would be putting tax dollars into the stadiums.   There is too much at stake.   

 

My point was using tax dollars for stadiums is not a fresh idea. A "fresh idea" would be a different funding source. And if Bibb is "being honest" here, so is Zack Reed and Kucinich and everyone else except DiBellow. Here's the full list of responses:

 

Should tax dollars be used to upgrade Progressive Field?

 

Justin Bibb

Yes

Ross DiBello

No

Basheer Jones

Yes

Kevin Kelley

Yes

Dennis Kucinich

Yes

Zack Reed

Yes

Sandra Williams

Yes

 

Source: https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/2021-cleveland-mayoral-race/mayoral-candidates-weigh-in-on-future-of-lakefront-ballpark-west-side-market-utilities

5 hours ago, Clefan98 said:

 

The smoking gun is his last 300 posts belittling and saying false things about a candidate he knows little to nothing about.

 

Thank you.

 

I've said nothing false. I've listed to both debates, all of Nick Castelle's "After Jackson"'s and other speeches/discussions, plus my own analysis of what each person has said, has NOT said, or is implying and shared this analysis with others, just as many others do all the time. And I openly provide links and sources. You disagree with them--that's your prerogative. But if the wrong person lands in City Hall, it will hurt all of us. I share my thoughts because i don't want us to suffer more as a city by electing the "Dennis the Menace" of the 2020s---a young, inexperienced 20 or 30-year old who doesn't know what's what but can spout current conditions like transit is important cause people need it to get to work or to get to doctor's appointments.....Yeah, that's useful.

20 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

Perhaps you should learn more Parking Access and Revenue Control Systems with software in the very parking equipment the city may adopt?

Or about cities that have departments of transportation? or that those departments fund mulitmodal transportaiton, including transit?

Or about the likelihood of getting more urban transit money from a state that is dominated by rural and exurban politicians?

As a former GCRTA board member, he learned about these things first hand.

 

He knows a lot more about them than you do. He has earned his opinion of them. You haven't.

 

 

KJP, see the post by@LifeLongClevelander right above yours. Its right on target. So as a "GCRTA board member" who contributed to the decline of RTA and public transit in Cleveland, he learned those things? He should have learned how to fill out a financial ethics form that he apparently didn't learn about at Case Law.

 

We should not be attacking each other here. We are seeking what's best for the city and need to elect the best possible person from the list of seven that we have or at least not electing the worst possible person.

 

 

I'm attacking falsehoods and unearned opinions. As a reporter, I've spoke extensively to both Kucinich and to Bibb over the past 20+ years. At Sun, I was assigned to cover Kucinich when he was a state senator and congressman. He is a political opportunist who doesn't believe in anything. He seeks information to justify his politically expedient opinions. He has few values except personal ambition. That is a dangerous thing.

 

My experiences with Bibb on the 1.5 years he served on the RTA board, and as a mayoral candidate since, is that he is a bright young man who asks good questions and wants to learn about things. Unlike Kucinich, he seeks information from multiple parties of differing views and then forms opinions. He knows he would govern everyone in Cleveland, including those who don't support him. That's leadership. He seeks progressive outcomes while recognizing that we live in a capitalist nation where regulated competition achieves successful outcomes for business, consumers and the public. Bibb is inexperienced so, if he loses this time, I hope he stays involved, expands his political base and knowledge, and runs again. We need bright, young, moral leaders like him.

56 minutes ago, Pugu said:

 

KJP, see the post by@LifeLongClevelander right above yours. Its right on target. So as a "GCRTA board member" who contributed to the decline of RTA and public transit in Cleveland, he learned those things? He should have learned how to fill out a financial ethics form that he apparently didn't learn about at Case Law.

 

We should not be attacking each other here. We are seeking what's best for the city and need to elect the best possible person from the list of seven that we have or at least not electing the worst possible person.

 

To be fair to Mr. Bibb, George Dixon resigned from RTA about 7 months before Bibb joined RTA's Board of Trustees in October 2018.  Calabrese resigned from RTA effective September 1, 2018 and received his "generous" payout prior to him joining the board as well.  That being said, as Bibb has served on RTA's Board of Trustees, he has seen from the inside the agency and what damage all of the scandals and mis-management of the system from before his joining has done.  

 

Being a member of the board of trustees, he should have been one calling for a complete investigation of the problems of the agency, not the sham of one that Calabrese "conducted" before he departed.  There needed to be a complete and thorough investigation of what happened, who enabled things to occur, what inadequacies permitted the problems to go unchecked and what was needed to be done to insure they never happen again.  Dixon basically got away with no more than a legal "hand slap" and Calabrese got out of town.  The scandals have been allowed to fade away.  We have no idea what could still be going on within RTA and if internal controls and current management will be able to detect or stop it. 

 

The call to get to the root of the various problems deep with RTA should be something that all candidates should be calling for.  Throwing more money at unresolved problems or haggling over bus routings isn't fixing anything.     

Great thread from Tom McNair (Executive Director of Ohio City CDC) on why he’s voting for Bibb. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow what a great thread. As an outsider learning the ins and outs, it's frustrating how Cleveland and NEO politics are so locked down and gate kept to certain families or pedigrees of politicians.

 

Politicians wonder why the region is lacking and refuse to look in the mirror while also considering outsiders (and outside opinions) a threat.

 

This problem isn't only on the city - but this race and rhetoric surrounding it are a perfect example of what's so frustrating about being a millenial transplant in NEO. 

On 9/5/2021 at 10:18 PM, Pugu said:

^I didn't get the mailer or know that Quentin James is referring to. Does anyone have it or can point to it?

 

I can't find the original post.   It seems to me that in a majority black city, darkening the skin tone on a picture might not be intended to be a negative.   Indeed, it might be intended to "backfire".

 

IIRC James claims he "knows who did it".   Well, who?

 

I may find his tweet and ask directly.

24 minutes ago, E Rocc said:

 

I can't find the original post.   It seems to me that in a majority black city, darkening the skin tone on a picture might not be intended to be a negative.   Indeed, it might be intended to "backfire".

 

IIRC James claims he "knows who did it".   Well, who?

 

I may find his tweet and ask directly.

You realize they sent these mailers to the whitest parts of the city, right?

13 minutes ago, bikemail said:

You realize they sent these mailers to the whitest parts of the city, right?

 

That's exactly how it's done.  

 

If you want something to "backfire" it has to appear to have been done in earnest.

Edited September 10, 20213 yr by E Rocc

Details on PAC money in CLE mayor race. Helps to know who is paying for the fake newspapers and all those flyers. 
 

 

 

Here are my revised rankings going in to Tuesday's primary:

 

1. Justin Bibb - lots of enthusiasm here from the people who have worked with him. Would absolutely be a breath of fresh air.  It would be extremely disappointing if he doesn't finish in the top two on Tuesday.

 

2. Sandra Williams - I appreciate pragmatism, and Williams has clearly figured out ways to work within the constraints of R dominated state government.  Having her name on House Bill 6 is clearly a very bad look, but I've yet to see anything implicating her in the bribery.  Thus far it just seems to be a reflection of the pragmatism - lots of jobs at the nuclear plant, good to have nuclear from a climate perspective, so hold your nose on the balance of the bill.  (Eh... as I write this, it's REALLY hard to ignore what a disaster of a bill HB 6 is.  Yikes.)  I do give Williams credit for helping to get transit funding raised - still a long way to go, but at least steps in the right direction.

 

3. Kevin Kelly - not exciting, but not a complete disaster

 

4. Zach Reed - I think Reed has done a good job throughout this campaign, and my opinion of him has gone up.  I really like his ideas on Burke Lakefront and on the MLK Cultural Gardens (close the latter to car traffic on weekends).  I also think he cares and he works hard.  Negatives: I really don't want CLE's mayor to be getting aDUI on the job, and clearly he still hasn't learned his lessons from his previous DUIs.

 

5. Ross DiBello - DiBello is clearly NOT ready for this job.  He refused to talk to the Plain Dealer during their endorsement interviews, and then had the nerve to complain about his platform not being covered by local media.  Are you kidding me?  Yes, the media often sucks, but if you want to be in politics you have to figure out how to work with them.

 

6.  Basheer Jones- my opinion of Jones has dropped the most of any candidate during this campaign.  Not getting vaccinated until being shamed into it while campaigning without a mask and shaking hands all over is completely disqualifying, and then giving pathetic excuses further tarnished my opinion of him.  (At least he did finally get his first shot.)  It's become clear he's more talk than action.  He seemed to claim credit for a lot of things happening in his ward that he really didn't have much to do with. 

 

#372,624 - Dennis! Kucinish - yes, I would rather have any other resident of Cleveland as mayor than Dennis!  Does he even live here?  Complete and total grifter.  And he still hasn't gotten vaccinated - I don't want the embarrassment of having an anti-vax mayor who then dies in office of COVID.

 

Comparing that to my ranking from three months ago (below) - Basheer dropped a lot and I came around a bit on Zach Reed. Otherwise it's the same ranking.

 

How do I think the vote ranking will end up on Tuesday night?

1. Dennis! Ugh. Counterpoint - whoever else finishes in the top two would probably be happy to face off against him, considering how many people strongly dislike him.

2. Really tough to call. I'm going Bibb because of the significant enthusiasm from supporters. (Hopefully this isn't just wishful thinking.)

3. Maybe Kelley? I'm thinking Kucinich might snag many of the votes Kelly would have gotten, thus hurting the latter's chances.  Maybe that effect drives him even lower.

4. Reed. Finished second last time, so he must have some chunk of support.

5. Williams - I think she just didn't get enough early enthusiasm.  Maybe she's able to finish higher if she gets a boost from female voters by being the only female in this race.

6. Jones - I'd like to think he won't finish higher than this, but he is fairly popular.

7. DiBello - he might not get as many votes as he's put in hours. If you really want to get into politics, you have to play the game.  You can't affect change if you don't give yourself an opportunity to win.

 

I'm really terrible at prognosticating and I have very little confidence in my projections.  Although I am pretty sure Dennis finishes top two with all the union endorsements.  This will be interesting to see unfold.

 

My previous rankings in June for comparison:

 

On 6/18/2021 at 3:21 PM, Boomerang_Brian said:

Here's my ranking:

 

#1 by a mile: Justin Bibb - He is a founder of an organization that figures out what works for cities.  He has this tremendous network to call on across the country, collecting input on the policies that work and the policies that don't work.  Always delivers well thought out answers that demonstrate a strong empathy.  Plus, growing up here he has a deep history with the community. He also has Cleveland business connections through his time in the corporate space.  He connects with people.  I'm extremely excited about him and very hopeful that he is the next mayor

 

Big gap, then:

2. Basheer Jones - he's done a great job as a city councilor

3. Sandra Williams

 

Another gap, then:

4. Kevin Kelley - would be more of the same, but at least he seems mostly competent

5. Ross Dibello - inexperienced, but good policy proposals

 

HARD NO:

6. Landry Simmons - no idea who this is

7. Zack Reed

8. Dennis Kucinich - how the hell are people thinking this would be even remotely OK?

 

I think it's funny that I wrote Sack Reed in my previous post.  No, that wasn't intentional.

 

Speaking of rankings... I really wish this race utilized rank choice voting! Hopefully we can move towards that in the future. 

I too like ranked-choice voting and would like to see us do that in coming elections.  @Boomerang_Brian -- thanks for list and rationale.  We still have two days, and i'm leaning towards your #2--Sandra Williams. She's made some mistakes in the past (including pocketing profits from some football tickets paid for with campaign funds and your note about HB 6), but all of the candidates have their issues. Regarding the other 2 on your top 3:  Bibb lied (or blatantly decided to play dumb) on financial disclosures and is woefully out-of-touch with reality; Kelley is the "safe" choice but not very dynamic and we may get more the same.  FWIW, my #2 is either Kelley or your #372,624--Kucinich--as he's the only one who really understands how things are--and I attribute this to his age and experience--and he's not gonna be pushed around or compromised by things. Anyway, I'm not voting til Tuesday so may still change my mind between now and then, but that's where my thinking is at the moment.

 

26 minutes ago, Ethan said:

Speaking of rankings... I really wish this race utilized rank choice voting! Hopefully we can move towards that in the future. 

Fully agree on that. One additional benefit of ranked-choice voting is it allows us to get rid of party-based primaries. It’s easy for political junkies to forget that most people hate politics and would prefer to reduce the number of times they have to vote. 
 

Unfortunately many places that have ranked choice haven’t figured this out (NYC mayoral primary). 
 

And at least Cleveland mayor has a non-party-based primary. This is HUGE right now as it reduces the chance of Dennis! becoming mayor. 

There’s something fishy about this endorsement. 🤔

 

 

The live turnout tracker is up - currently there's 19708 votes cast.

 

For reference, in 2017 32,780 votes were cast.

6 hours ago, jawn said:

The live turnout tracker is up - currently there's 19708 votes cast.

 

For reference, in 2017 32,780 votes were cast.

 

I believe that number is for the full county.  For the city it is 13,506.

 

Ballots will still roll in after election day and if postmarked by the deadline, will still be counted.

 

 

Edited September 14, 20213 yr by Pugu

Polls open til 730 tonight!  Huge turnout so far in West Park--18%. High in Mt. Pleasant too at 13%.

 

https://boe.cuyahogacounty.gov/en-US/livevoter.aspx

25 minutes ago, Pugu said:

Polls open til 730 tonight!  Huge turnout so far in West Park--18%. High in Mt. Pleasant too at 13%.

 

https://boe.cuyahogacounty.gov/en-US/livevoter.aspx

Sad percentages to be described as "huge" and "high."  😐

10 minutes ago, Cleburger said:

Sad percentages to be described as "huge" and "high."  😐

 

I know---but the polls are still open for 5 more hours--and wasn't the expectation of a 10% turnout? So this is good.

This is ridiculous. Cleveland should be embarrassed.

 

 

 

Live election results at:https://www.livevoterturnout.com/cuyoh/LiveResults/en/Index_16.html

^Looks like Ross DiBello found 195 people (besides himself) to support him!

With 40% reporting, Bibb has a 9 point lead, and only 1/4 of Ward 3’s precincts are in. It seems quite likely he will be the top spot. 
 

Now that second spot, lol…

5 minutes ago, Pugu said:

^Looks like Ross DiBello found 195 people (besides himself) to support him!

 

Haha the one candidate who was statistically eliminated months ago! 

21 minutes ago, LlamaLawyer said:

With 40% reporting, Bibb has a 9 point lead, and only 1/4 of Ward 3’s precincts are in. It seems quite likely he will be the top spot. 
 

Now that second spot, lol…

 

at this point, for 2nd place, I would guess Kelly---he's a close second followed by Kucinich but Old Brooklyn has not reported at all yet--so that should give him a boost away from Kucinich.

With the likely Bibb/Kelley matchup it's going to be fun getting all these PAC mailers! Can't wait! ...not 

 

I wouldn't put it past Dennis! to launch a write in campaign. I'd imagine that'd pull votes from Kelley if D were to be that selfish. 

Bibb vs. Kelly it is. Either outcome should be good for the city. 

Just now, freefourur said:

Bibb vs. Kelly it is. Either outcome should be good for the city. 

Yeah I’m overall good with these two choices. Kelly is probably the lower risk and lower reward option. 

2 hours ago, cle_guy90 said:

Yeah I’m overall good with these two choices. Kelly is probably the lower risk and lower reward option. 

 

I'd say Kelley is the lower risk and higher reward option. Before the results started trickling in I thought the winners would be Kucinich and Bibb, and am happy that Kelley is out ahead of Kucinich. I know Bibb had a quite a following, but I'm surprised by the large margin he came out with. I think a lot of people drank the Bibb Kool-Aid without realizing what a disaster and weak mayor he'd be. He certainly duped a lot of people. I certainly hope Kelley wins in November. He is stiff and seen as a the 'status quo'/Jackson-Rubber-Stamp, I know, but he is still far better than Bibb would be in City Hall. 

 

I wish Sandra Williams had done better. I will admit, I had voted for her. For me, it came down to Kelley and her, but she finished even behind Zack Reed!

 

 

I think Bibb should win it. He is more likely to gain votes from everyone’s voters except kucinich. Bibb should win the white millennial and POC vote. The wild cards are Frank Jackson’s pull and who the other candidates endorse if anyone. 

Fantastic results. Most importantly, Bibb winning BIG. Also very important, Kucinich finishing third - he will not be mayor again and we can all be thankful. On to the general election. 
 

 

 

 

Glad to see Dennis not make the cut, but two candidates I can't consider voting for, albeit for very different reasons.   Oh well....

 

 

George was Dennis!’s main donor, and also gave to Jones, Reed, and Williams. 

 

35 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

 

 

George was Dennis!’s main donor, and also gave to Jones, Reed, and Williams. 

 

 

6 hours ago, Pugu said:

I think a lot of people drank the Bibb Kool-Aid without realizing what a disaster and weak mayor he'd be. He certainly duped a lot of people.

 

Or maybe people are capable of critical thinking, evaluated all candidates, and found Bibb to be the best choice for the city. 

 

This idea of people being duped is a copout, I think people are capable to think for themselves and don't want a retread of city leadership, especially someone who's been on council and part of the city machine for the past decade. Kelley claims his time on council as a strength when many people (myself included) find it to be a flaw. He's been council prez  and a rubber stamp through this whole mess of a Jackson administration - reactive and not an inkling of proactive - reacting based on investigative reporting and frankly I don't want that type of person to lead the city.

 

Look at the people endorsing Justin, they aren't just some schmucks off the street- they're smart people who know what they're doing in their respective industries. Seriously, this "duped" and "Kool-Aid" rhetoric is pretty dumb considering his base.

 

Maybe you need to read this thread (from the head! of Ohio City's CDC) to understand why people are so energized by Justin. 

 

 

Edited September 15, 20213 yr by GISguy

43 minutes ago, Enginerd said:

 

 

Really bummed I can't find the graffitti photo from his 'development site' on 25 and Detroit lol. 

 

Hopefully his days of parking for free on Public Square will be numbered!

10 minutes ago, GISguy said:

 

Really bummed I can't find the graffitti photo from his 'development site' on 25 and Detroit lol. 

 

4 minutes ago, roman totale XVII said:

 

🙏

I can't vote in this race but I donated to Bibb because in my conversations with him on transportation, TOD and even the comparisons of the widely diverging trajectories of Cleveland and Toronto since the 1950s he asked good questions and I thought I gave him better answers because of how he asked them. The questions invited thoughtful, introspective, solutions-based answers that he may or may not like to hear rather than the ones that seem to encourage a predetermined conclusion. That impressed the hell out of me. I've interviewed politicians from local council people, mayors, state reps/senators, multiple congresspersons, Senators Glenn, Voinovich, and Brown on up to Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. I found Bibb's energy, curiosity, introspection and desire to solve problems to be refreshing. Yes he's young, needs more polishing and he's probably going to make some youthful mistakes in that regard and hopefully he'll learn from them and be stronger as a result. But of the candidates running in this race, I think he can deliver the change the city needs and I trust him to utilize the half-billion-dollar economic reboot from the feds in a more responsible manner to create a more equitable economy and activate people who have been left out of it.

29 minutes ago, GISguy said:

 

🙏

 

Poor Tony is having a really bad week between this and the W. 25 eminent domain thing.  🤣

7 hours ago, Pugu said:

 

I'd say Kelley is the lower risk and higher reward option. Before the results started trickling in I thought the winners would be Kucinich and Bibb, and am happy that Kelley is out ahead of Kucinich. I know Bibb had a quite a following, but I'm surprised by the large margin he came out with. I think a lot of people drank the Bibb Kool-Aid without realizing what a disaster and weak mayor he'd be. He certainly duped a lot of people. I certainly hope Kelley wins in November. He is stiff and seen as a the 'status quo'/Jackson-Rubber-Stamp, I know, but he is still far better than Bibb would be in City Hall. 

 

I wish Sandra Williams had done better. I will admit, I had voted for her. For me, it came down to Kelley and her, but she finished even behind Zack Reed!

 

 

At what point do you start wondering if it was you who was duped and not the large majority...

38 minutes ago, KJP said:

I can't vote in this race but I donated to Bibb because in my conversations with him on transportation, TOD and even the comparisons of the widely diverging trajectories of Cleveland and Toronto since the 1950s he asked good questions and I thought I gave him better answers because of how he asked them. The questions invited thoughtful, introspective, solutions-based answers that he may or may not like to hear rather than the ones that seem to encourage a predetermined conclusion. That impressed the hell out of me. I've interviewed politicians from local council people, mayors, state reps/senators, multiple congresspersons, Senators Glenn, Voinovich, and Brown on up to Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. I found Bibb's energy, curiosity, introspection and desire to solve problems to be refreshing. Yes he's young, needs more polishing and he's probably going to make some youthful mistakes in that regard and hopefully he'll learn from them and be stronger as a result. But of the candidates running in this race, I think he can deliver the change the city needs and I trust him to utilize the half-billion-dollar economic reboot from the feds in a more responsible manner to create a more equitable economy and activate people who have been left out of it.

 

It's nice to have somebody coming from a background of more of an academic and non-political understanding of the issues facing Cleveland and cities in general, as opposed to yet another ward politician. And I don't even mean to make a blanket statement that ward politicians are always bad, but that parochial mentality is part of what's been holding Cleveland back for such a long time.

Edited September 15, 20213 yr by mu2010

I’m reminded of when I commented back to someone that compared Trump to Hitler that his was not a triumph of the will but a triumph of the marketing department.

 

As far as I can tell, Bibb is the same.  Lots of hype, lots of platitudes, the only substance is the kind cattle make.

 

He probably should have run for Congress.   Like Dennis, he’d be great as a minority party congressman.   But if he could lead a kindergarten class to B. A. Sweetie, I haven’t seen any evidence of same.

 

Seriously, what has he accomplished?   Not advocated, not proposed, not planned out.  Accomplished.

 

Smoke, mirrors, and an abysmal pack of alternatives.

 

This is not to say Kelley is any better.

34 minutes ago, KJP said:

I can't vote in this race but I donated to Bibb because in my conversations with him on transportation, TOD and even the comparisons of the widely diverging trajectories of Cleveland and Toronto since the 1950s he asked good questions and I thought I gave him better answers because of how he asked them. The questions invited thoughtful, introspective, solutions-based answers that he may or may not like to hear rather than the ones that seem to encourage a predetermined conclusion. That impressed the hell out of me. I've interviewed politicians from local council people, mayors, state reps/senators, multiple congresspersons, Senators Glenn, Voinovich, and Brown on up to Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. I found Bibb's energy, curiosity, introspection and desire to solve problems to be refreshing. Yes he's young, needs more polishing and he's probably going to make some youthful mistakes in that regard and hopefully he'll learn from them and be stronger as a result. But of the candidates running in this race, I think he can deliver the change the city needs and I trust him to utilize the half-billion-dollar economic reboot from the feds in a more responsible manner to create a more equitable economy and activate people who have been left out of it.

 

Sure, you can say all that, but what'll really convince me is posting 5 times a day about how we're all duped and he'll be a disaster!  Using all caps will help, too.

34 minutes ago, KJP said:

I can't vote in this race but I donated to Bibb because in my conversations with him on transportation, TOD and even the comparisons of the widely diverging trajectories of Cleveland and Toronto since the 1950s he asked good questions and I thought I gave him better answers because of how he asked them. The questions invited thoughtful, introspective, solutions-based answers that he may or may not like to hear rather than the ones that seem to encourage a predetermined conclusion. That impressed the hell out of me. I've interviewed politicians from local council people, mayors, state reps/senators, multiple congresspersons, Senators Glenn, Voinovich, and Brown on up to Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. I found Bibb's energy, curiosity, introspection and desire to solve problems to be refreshing. Yes he's young, needs more polishing and he's probably going to make some youthful mistakes in that regard and hopefully he'll learn from them and be stronger as a result. But of the candidates running in this race, I think he can deliver the change the city needs and I trust him to utilize the half-billion-dollar economic reboot from the feds in a more responsible manner to create a more equitable economy and activate people who have been left out of it.

That's good to hear. The fact that Justin came out early and talked about the federal funds coming was a big reason for why I voted for him. So much better than the money wasted by the Jackson administration sending out mailers to the city asking for "suggestions" on how to spend the money...

 

I also like that he's making the WSM a priority and wants to modernize the city website/permitting process.

1 hour ago, E Rocc said:

I’m reminded of when I commented back to someone that compared Trump to Hitler that his was not a triumph of the will but a triumph of the marketing department.

 

As far as I can tell, Bibb is the same.  Lots of hype, lots of platitudes, the only substance is the kind cattle make.

 

He probably should have run for Congress.   Like Dennis, he’d be great as a minority party congressman.   But if he could lead a kindergarten class to B. A. Sweetie, I haven’t seen any evidence of same.

 

Seriously, what has he accomplished?   Not advocated, not proposed, not planned out.  Accomplished.

 

Smoke, mirrors, and an abysmal pack of alternatives.

 

This is not to say Kelley is any better.

 

I don't live in Cleveland, but this take would be all I needed to read to know that Bibb must be an awesome choice. Hopefully he wins in November!

I too don't live in Cleveland but donated to Bibb. I believe he has the right vision, priorities, energy, thoughtfulness, and motivation, as well as the right connections. When you have that the details typically fall into place.

 

I really don't get the experience criticisms of Bibb. The way people talk about him you would think he's 19 years old. At 34, sure he's relatively young, but he has several years of experience in strategic consulting related to urban planning and government issues, including a year working for Cuyahoga County under Ed Fitzgerald. Basheer Jones never got the same criticisms, but outside of a couple years on city council, I don't think he has any city planning experience.

https://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2021/09/precinct-level-data-reveals-trends-about-tuesdays-cleveland-mayoral-primary.html