May 15, 20241 yr 20 hours ago, mu2010 said: So happy to see this being redeveloped. I lived around the corner during my days in Columbus. The loss of the Giant Eagle was a huge bummer for that beautiful neighborhood. Lucky’s is a great store too. I will have to come and visit soon. There was a lot of talk at the time that Giant Eagle would never let it go to a competitor. Glad that ended up being false. Trader Joe’s would have been better but I will not complain about Luckys one bit. Still crazy there is no TJs in the downtown area.
May 15, 20241 yr Still too many poverty pockets near Downtown for TJs. Today's retailers are incredibly strict about income in the primary and secondary Service Areas because of Amazon.
May 15, 20241 yr 46 minutes ago, 614love said: Trader Joe’s would have been better but I will not complain about Luckys one bit. Still crazy there is no TJs in the downtown area. Eh I never feel like you can get enough actual ingredients to make meals from TJs. It seems like if you want some snack stuff or frozen foods, it’s a great spot. Lucky’s is great and I think it’s better for a neighborhood store.
May 15, 20241 yr 53 minutes ago, 614love said: Trader Joe’s would have been better but I will not complain about Luckys one bit. Still crazy there is no TJs in the downtown area. Grandview Crossing is trying to woo TJs.
May 16, 20241 yr 8 hours ago, smjjms said: Grandview Crossing is trying to woo TJs. I also know the Nicholas tried as well but TJs said no
May 16, 20241 yr I'll repeat it til the cows come home. Unless Trader Joe's deviates from its normal model, we will not see one for a long time downtown or adjacent. As GCrites points out, there's too much low income adjacent to the affluent core neighborhoods. The average annual household income of nearly all Trader Joe's locations within 3 miles exceeds $100k. Often pushing into the 120s and 130s. Franklinton has an average household income of $60k. Any location inside the core is not going to meet that standard. There are a few deviations but population density is a factor in those cases and Columbus will not be able to meet those deviations very easily anytime soon. Edited May 16, 20241 yr by DTCL11
May 16, 20241 yr Which is ironic for a brand owned by Aldi... "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 16, 20241 yr 9 hours ago, ColDayMan said: Which is ironic for a brand owned by Aldi... Different Aldi, different company all together. Aldi Nord owns and operates Trader Joe's. Aldi Sud owns and operates the Aldi grocery stores that we know in the US. And finally, Aldo November follows Rocktober. Edited May 16, 20241 yr by Airsup
May 16, 20241 yr 10 hours ago, DTCL11 said: I'll repeat it til the cows come home. Unless Trader Joe's deviates from its normal model, we will not see one for a long time downtown or adjacent. As GCrites points out, there's too much low income adjacent to the affluent core neighborhoods. The average annual household income of nearly all Trader Joe's locations within 3 miles exceeds $100k. Often pushing into the 120s and 130s. Franklinton has an average household income of $60k. Any location inside the core is not going to meet that standard. There are a few deviations but population density is a factor in those cases and Columbus will not be able to meet those deviations very easily anytime soon. I don't think those incomes levels are reached south and west of the Easton location...
May 16, 20241 yr 46 minutes ago, Pablo said: I don't think those incomes levels are reached south and west of the Easton location... They're not. The average household income within 3 miles of most locations doesn't mean there aren't lower household incomes nearby. Proximity to New Albany helps bring that average within 3 miles up closer to average TJ levels. In cases where the 3 mile characteric isnt quite there, the 5 mile target usually helps. TJs can be next to lower household incomes, but surrounded by them on all sides is not common (which is the case for anything downtown or inner core) without the corresponding density to compensate. Also, being part of Easton itself may have been a trade off for the more common characteristics. But again, that's nearly all, not necessarily all. GV crossing has a better shot I think. But unless it's part of a massive project where TJs likes the specifics of it, like an Easton, I don't see where much of their location patterning to date leaves much hope for anything in Downtown or adjoining neighborhoods until density reaches a more significant tipping point. That's just looking at statistics. But maybe there's the off chance that they deviate and see something to make the choice that doesn't fit those common models. TJs doesn't release their official site selection Requirements but there's a handful of studies out there that analyze this information if one gets bored. A newer one I haven't read yet analyzes proximity to SNAP households in LA. Edited May 16, 20241 yr by DTCL11
May 16, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Airsup said: Different Aldi, different company all together. Aldi Nord owns and operates Trader Joe's. Aldi Sud owns and operates the Aldi grocery stores that we know in the US. And finally, Aldo November follows Rocktober. After a full month of Zeptember. Double the Zeppelin double the fun.
May 21, 20241 yr On 5/16/2024 at 10:26 AM, GCrites said: After a full month of Zeptember. Double the Zeppelin double the fun. Don't forget ACDecember!
February 4Feb 4 4 hours ago, sono4315 said: Thurber village wrapping up exterior work. Two thousand dollar apartments to stare out into a parking lot and the backside of a grocery store. It's asinine the developers weren't able make the two stores into mixed use buildings...
February 4Feb 4 39 minutes ago, KyleofColumbus said: Two thousand dollar apartments to stare out into a parking lot and the backside of a grocery store. It's asinine the developers weren't able make the two stores into mixed use buildings... how ever could we have a cvs without a drive thru?? People can’t get out and walk, that would be horrible.
February 4Feb 4 27 minutes ago, VintageLife said: how ever could we have a cvs without a drive thru?? People can’t get out and walk, that would be horrible. My understanding is that CVS dictated the site design.
February 4Feb 4 11 minutes ago, Pablo said: My understanding is that CVS dictated the site design. I get that, they could have had a similar design like the White Castle building in the short north had. A drive thru and cab he added in a creative way that doesn’t ruin the urban fabric. While the two street facing businesses don’t look awful, it is far from a proper dense urban design.
February 4Feb 4 2 hours ago, KyleofColumbus said: Two thousand dollar apartments to stare out into a parking lot and the backside of a grocery store. It's asinine the developers weren't able make the two stores into mixed use buildings... I without a doubt agree that Luckys and CVS should have been on the ground floor. However, even so, I would personally be willing to pay that price if it meant living within a 2 minute walk of high street, a pharmacy, and a grocery story lol. I think these are going to do really well.
February 4Feb 4 2 hours ago, KyleofColumbus said: Two thousand dollar apartments to stare out into a parking lot and the backside of a grocery store. It's asinine the developers weren't able make the two stores into mixed use buildings... Right! I walked over to CVS to grab a few things and was checking out the new apartment building, I noticed the entire first floor of the apartment building is nothing but parking. The developer could easily have put a few retail storefronts in at the least! The parking lot is horrible :( they had one chance.... Edited February 4Feb 4 by sono4315
February 5Feb 5 5 hours ago, Pablo said: My understanding is that CVS dictated the site design. They did.
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