Posted December 10, 20213 yr "Yes, but why'd they walk so close to a nuclear testing site?" --typical history-ignorant American Fossil footprints show humans in North America more than 21,000 years ago The footprints, the earliest firm evidence for humans in the Americas, show that people must have arrived here before the last Ice Age. https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/fossil-footprints-show-humans-north-america-21000-years-ago-rcna2169 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 22, 20213 yr yeah there is a question that polynesians may have reached america before the bering strait crossing. or around the same time. its rather muddy. the flash point are rapa nui/easter island, the marquesas, ecuador and colombia. the funny thing is it may be the two groups did not meet up until around 1200AD. it's a pretty interesting detective story! Native Americans and Polynesians Met Around 1200 A.D. Genetic analysis of their modern descendants shows that people from the Pacific Islands and South America interacted long before Europeans arrived Brian Handwerk Science Correspondent July 8, 2020 more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/native-americans-polynesians-meet-180975269/
December 22, 20213 yr The dna studies are fascinating! Even before that evidence, it's certainly no stretch of the imagination that Polynesians made it to the Americas. Also there is some evidence of linguistic and technological connection as well. Polynesians, tribes linked BY JOE ROBINSON SEPT. 6, 2005 12 AM PT FAMED for their epic navigational feats, the Polynesians may have sailed a lot farther than anyone suspected. Two researchers have found limited but intriguing evidence that suggests these mariners made it to Southern California between AD 400 and AD 800. While they were here, they passed along their boat-building technology to the local Chumash and Gabrielino Indians, according to Terry Jones, anthropology professor at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, and Kathryn Klar, a UC Berkeley lecturer, whose research appeared in the peer-reviewed journal American Antiquity. Unlike the dugout canoes and rafts used by other Native Americans, the Chumash and Gabrielinos built sturdy Polynesian-style plank canoes, which allowed them to sail longer distances and fish in the deep sea. Klar found a Polynesian connection in the word for the vessel. The Chumash term for the “sewn-plank canoe,” tomolo’o, unrelated to any other in the language, is linguistically connected to the Polynesian tumuRaa’au, as is the Gabrielino term for the plank boat. The researchers also found Chumash fish hooks are dead ringers for Polynesian models. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-sep-06-os-briefs6.2-story.html#:~:text=The Chumash term for the,dead ringers for Polynesian models.
December 22, 20213 yr ^ and on face value alone -- if you just look at some of the people from that area of south america they look just like polynesians. its weird how this has mostly come to light only fairly recently. people certainly knew about the polynesian boating skills, but they were slow to accept that why wouldn't they have made it all the way to the americas if they made it to easter island. its just a cool history we keep finding more and more out about.
December 22, 20213 yr 4 minutes ago, mrnyc said: ^ and on face value alone -- if you just look at some of the people from that area of south america they look just like polynesians. its weird how this has mostly come to light only fairly recently. people certainly knew about the polynesian boating skills, but they were slow to accept that why wouldn't they have made it all the way to the americas if they made it to easter island. its just a cool history we keep finding more and more out about. Right? I never understood why it seems that pre-European history of the Americas is so comparatively undervalued. Thanks for starting this thread.
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