Posted April 10, 200619 yr Euclid Ave. housing in works Plan would transform stretch into $32M, 160-unit complex 1021 Euclid Ave. is part of a stretch on which First Midwest Properties LLC has set its sights to turn into a 160-unit housing complex. By JAY MILLER 6:00 am, April 10, 2006 A nearly barren stretch of low-rise office buildings on Euclid Avenue between East Ninth Street and Playhouse Square would go residential under plans being hatched by a local investor and his partners. According to information presented to Cuyahoga County commissioners, First Midwest Properties LLC wants to convert the stretch of buildings between the Huntington Bank Building and the Statler Arms complex into a $32 million, 160-unit housing complex. The commissioners tentatively have agreed to issue $25 million in tax-exempt housing revenue bonds to help the partnership make the project happen. The project would be across the street from and just east of the Ameritrust complex, which the county plans to convert into its administrative headquarters. That stretch of Euclid has been particularly hard hit by the decline in downtown employment and the migration of retailing to Tower City Center and the Galleria. The project would follow the trend of turning marginal downtown office buildings into housing. The Osborne Building on Huron Road and the Pointe at Gateway on Prospect Avenue are two nearby buildings that have gone through similar transformations, though this new, unnamed project would be larger than the two combined. Apartments in those buildings range in price from $600 to $1,800. Condominium units at the Pointe sell for $78,000 to $269,000. In January, 3M Realty LLC, a partnership created by Cleveland Heights real estate investor Eli Mann, bought the property at 1001-1015 Euclid for $2.24 million, according to county property records. The seller was a partnership led by retired mortgage broker and developer Alvin Siegel. Last August, First Midwest purchased the building at 1021 Euclid for $400,000 from Prime Properties Development Ltd., a Mentor partnership associated with Jerome T. Osborne III, county records show. In its request to the county for bonds to help finance the redevelopment effort, First Midwest said it also hopes to purchase the next property east, at 1101 Euclid. That parcel is owned by Trebmal Construction Co., a Milstein family entity. Brock Milstein, president of Trebmal, confirmed the ongoing talks. “I’m still in the process of figuring out what works for us,” he said. Mr. Milstein also controls the Statler Arms apartment building and the adjacent parking garage that fill out the block and is deciding what to do with the properties.
May 8, 200817 yr I just couldn't resist from giving this project it's own thread. And I hate to sound cheesy, but this project really warms my heart. Seriously, you just can't create buildings like this anymore... and I'll never understand the idiots that were so determined to clad them all in aluminum.
June 22, 200816 yr Maybe some one knows what's going on (and the appropriate term) but: There is the exterior scaffolding/elevator life on the outside of 1011 Euclid. I'm only guessing its 1011, because is the black/steel/glass facaded building between 1001 and 1021
June 23, 200816 yr Maybe some one knows what's going on (and the appropriate term) but: There is the exterior scaffolding/elevator life on the outside of 1011 Euclid. I'm only guessing its 1011, because is the black/steel/glass facaded building between 1001 and 1021 1015 Euclid Avenue. One of the four buildings part of Eli Mann's John Hartness Brown Project. At some point this is going to require it's own thread... but right now probably still OK here. They have been approved for investigative work behind the facade of this building (think what happened at the schofield building but much more thorough). This is a MASSIVE project including four buildings with a significant amount of work. He's already been to design review once last winter. This phase should make for some great photo ops. I'll try to keep up with it on my walks.
June 23, 200816 yr Is this the building that's getting the facade ripped off because there's a much more beautiful, older facade behind it?
June 23, 200816 yr Is the building to the right of the one in the picture the one that is supposed to get like 15 floors added to it?
June 23, 200816 yr Is this the building that's getting the facade ripped off because there's a much more beautiful, older facade behind it? I think you are confusing it with the building on the opposite corner of Euclid (there were photos of exploratory de-sheathing earlier).
June 23, 200816 yr Is this the building that's getting the facade ripped off because there's a much more beautiful, older facade behind it? I think you are confusing it with the building on the opposite corner of Euclid (there were photos of exploratory de-sheathing earlier). JPop may have been thinking of the Schofield Building on the corner of 9th and Euclid across from the rotunda... but there is indeed a historic building behind this facade and it is going to be restored... and I think it's quite beautiful too (though not schofield beautiful). Coon Restoration (same people as terminal tower) will be doing the restoration. With the Schofield building they were doing a feasability study. In this case they already know it's feasible and are already committed to doing the work, they're going to be inspecting every part of the facade to see exactly what they need to do.
June 23, 200816 yr Is the building to the right of the one in the picture the one that is supposed to get like 15 floors added to it? Yes. And there is also a building inbetween that one and the statler that has some crummy aluminum facing. There is no evidence of a historic facade underneath that one so they will be able to do whatever they want with that one. EDIT: That's not the building that gets added to. it's the one to the right of it, the one i said is in aluminum but has no historic facade so they can do anything they want to it. You can get a look at it here... http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2008/02/_euclid_avenue_is_changing.html and the 1015 building that they are getting ready to do work on would be the first TWO buildings on the left of the picture.
June 23, 200816 yr What were these people thinking, hiding these facades with this ugly paneling? Man .. anything's gotta be better than that. Sorry for my confusion, guys, but thanks for the help.
June 26, 200816 yr There's actually a very pretty building underneath all that 1960s modernist makeup. She needs to come back out and show off for all of us. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 26, 200816 yr It shouldn't take long... they are moving really quickly. In about 5 minutes after i took these they had gotten half way across the next floor. I'm not sure, but I'm assuming they are going to take that skin off and leave it off (similar to what happened to 668). so it may look like a trainwreck until next spring, but I'll take that any day of the week over having to look at those turd brown aluminum panels.
June 26, 200816 yr It shouldn't take long... they are moving really quickly. In about 5 minutes after i took these they had gotten half way across the next floor. I'm not sure, but I'm assuming they are going to take that skin off and leave it off (similar to what happened to 668). so it may look like a trainwreck until next spring, but I'll take that any day of the week over having to look at those turd brown aluminum panels. That yuckiness reminds me of the Baker Building that used to be at the corner of Euclid and Adelbert. It was built to be TEMPORARY in the 60's, but they kept using it until about '05. Ugh. I feel like that facade was supposed to be a short-term fix too (or it sure as heck looks like it!).
June 26, 200816 yr then post them... they HAVE to be better than my trusty work provided Kodak Easyshare 3.2 megapixel award winning photographic instrument.
June 26, 200816 yr then post them... they HAVE to be better than my trusty work provided Kodak Easyshare 3.2 megapixel award winning photographic instrument. ahh, but i forgot my USB cable at home! Maybe tonight...
June 26, 200816 yr Is this the building that's getting the facade ripped off because there's a much more beautiful, older facade behind it? I think you are confusing it with the building on the opposite corner of Euclid (there were photos of exploratory de-sheathing earlier). giggle...exploratory de-sheating...
June 26, 200816 yr I was just out there, and there is twice as much off as there was in the photos. Also, a few executive types with hardhats were watching the removal. Eli Mann perhaps? Also, the windows of the old facade are huge, probably 8' high by 12' wide.
June 26, 200816 yr ^That does sound a bit cheeky. It's too hot to take photos today, but I'll head over there next week. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
June 26, 200816 yr ^That does sound a bit cheeky. It's too hot to take photos today, but I'll head over there next week. Too hot? You think it's gonna cool down going into July???? ;)
June 26, 200816 yr It's too hot and humid (helLO, I am NOT about to waste good hair product!), and they're predicting mid-70s next week. :-) clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
June 26, 200816 yr It's too hot and humid (helLO, I am NOT about to waste good hair product!), and they're predicting mid-70s next week. :-) I don't generally trust meteorologists, lol. But I understand your point about good hair products. My credit card cries when I have to buy new stuff.
June 26, 200816 yr Why the heck did they do that to the building? From what I saw in the photos, the original facade appeared to be in pretty good shape. What a shame it was covered up. Oh well, maybe they were just saving it for us.
June 26, 200816 yr Why the heck did they do that to the building? From what I saw in the photos, the original facade appeared to be in pretty good shape. What a shame it was covered up. Oh well, maybe they were just saving it for us. It was the 60s/early 70's, it was going on all over, not just Cleveland.
June 26, 200816 yr Victorian/neoclassical "fussiness" was out. Aluminum sheeting, sleek and modern, was in.
June 27, 200816 yr I just couldn't resist from giving this project it's own thread. And I hate to sound cheesy, but this project really warms my heart. Seriously, you just can't create buildings like this anymore... and I'll never understand the idiots that were so determined to clad them all in aluminum. At any rate... the latest and greatest from 1015 Euclid Avenue:
June 27, 200816 yr WHY WOULD ANYONE COVER THAT!? That's like putting Salma Hayek in brown Fruit of the Loom sweats!
June 27, 200816 yr WHY WOULD ANYONE COVER THAT!? That's like putting Salma Hayek in brown Fruit of the Loom sweats! Hahaha .. oh, man. I love that. Seriously, this whole project will be like unwrapping a present to the city. I, too, am completely shocked that this building was ever covered in that sh!t paneling. Ya know, the 60s and 70s WERE a big time for drugs .. Thanks for the pics, McCleve!
June 27, 200816 yr Great stuff under there..... Now if they would only start on the Schofield Building!
June 27, 200816 yr I can just picture a couple idiots in brown polyester suits with polka dot ties wearing sh*t eating grins staring up at their new brown aluminum clad building saying, "man that looks good". Assholes.
June 27, 200816 yr Can someone please post the picture of the flatiron building between Huron and Prospect that is now the Cleveland Urban Design Center and the Winking Lizard restaurant -- when it was covered with that metal crap. People need to see that these offenses were fairly common 40-50 years ago. Glad you started a thread on this project, McCleveland. It deserves it. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 27, 200816 yr I can just picture a couple idiots in brown polyester suits with polka dot ties wearing sh*t eating grins staring up at their new brown aluminum clad building saying, "man that looks good". Assholes. Goodness, you said the "P" word. I think I just broke out in a rash!
June 27, 200816 yr ^I recall it was in those picture threads from that guy that had the pictures from cleveland in the 80's. Any case to keep topical, I can't wait till the rest of the buildings in the area gets there orginal facades back.
June 27, 200816 yr Just moved a bunch of scattered messages from the general Cleveland developments thread to this one. I then took the comments from McCleveland from his original, first message in this new topic and combined it with an older message of his and moved that here, too. Otherwise he wouldn't be the creator of this thread, and he deserves that credit for starting it. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 27, 200816 yr Can someone please post the picture of the flatiron building between Huron and Prospect that is now the Cleveland Urban Design Center and the Winking Lizard restaurant -- when it was covered with that metal crap. People need to see that these offenses were fairly common 40-50 years ago. http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,15663.0.html
June 27, 200816 yr WHY WOULD ANYONE COVER THAT!? That's like putting Salma Hayek in brown Fruit of the Loom sweats! Hahaha .. oh, man. I love that. Seriously, this whole project will be like unwrapping a present to the city. I, too, am completely shocked that this building was ever covered in that sh!t paneling. Ya know, the 60s and 70s WERE a big time for drugs .. Thanks for the pics, McCleve! Wasn't the Breuer Tower built during that time frame? It all finally makes sense to me.
June 27, 200816 yr Can someone please post the picture of the flatiron building between Huron and Prospect that is now the Cleveland Urban Design Center and the Winking Lizard restaurant -- when it was covered with that metal crap. People need to see that these offenses were fairly common 40-50 years ago. http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,15663.0.html You .. have GOT to be kidding me.
June 27, 200816 yr WHY WOULD ANYONE COVER THAT!? That's like putting Salma Hayek in brown Fruit of the Loom sweats! Hahaha .. oh, man. I love that. Seriously, this whole project will be like unwrapping a present to the city. I, too, am completely shocked that this building was ever covered in that sh!t paneling. Ya know, the 60s and 70s WERE a big time for drugs .. Thanks for the pics, McCleve! Wasn't the Breuer Tower built during that time frame? It all finally makes sense to me. Careful...
June 27, 200816 yr WHY WOULD ANYONE COVER THAT!? That's like putting Salma Hayek in brown Fruit of the Loom sweats! Hahaha .. oh, man. I love that. Seriously, this whole project will be like unwrapping a present to the city. I, too, am completely shocked that this building was ever covered in that sh!t paneling. Ya know, the 60s and 70s WERE a big time for drugs .. Thanks for the pics, McCleve! Wasn't the Breuer Tower built during that time frame? It all finally makes sense to me. Careful... YES.
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