October 9, 20195 yr 8 minutes ago, musky said: Somebody bellow? Yesterday was national Pierogi Day, so, i guess I might smell a bit like that today Actually I think a pierogi fast-casual place would do really well at JHB. We need more Cleveland-centric food establishments. Maybe also serve Polish Boy, cevapi, and coconut bars. Great idea, @musky! ?
October 9, 20195 yr 3 hours ago, Frmr CLEder said: I'm anxious to see the treatment for the arched window encasements. If they have em on site, I’d imagine they’ll be in shortly. They’re a fast install. I’m sure they wanna get as much closed in before the bad weather comes as well. Its essentially, plumb it up, put in 6-8 TapCons per window, sealed up with commercial grade GE caulking. Did some work for Pella for a few years. Edited October 10, 20195 yr by marty15
October 10, 20195 yr ...and hopefully finish the interiors with a nice selection of Sherwin Williams paints. Lol.
October 10, 20195 yr Photos from lunch today (to be fair @mack34's photos a bit up thread are better ?) Edited October 10, 20195 yr by GISguy
October 11, 20195 yr Can anyone post a photo revealing how these buildings looked originally? I know Eric Johannesen's book on Cleveland architecture shows one. Were these facades all remodeled in the '20s? Edited October 11, 20195 yr by lafont
October 11, 20195 yr Yes, that's s different shot of the one in Johannesen's book and reveals there was a side street there. How about the original facades. to the east? Edited October 11, 20195 yr by lafont
October 11, 20195 yr On 10/11/2019 at 3:41 PM, ydard said: August 3, 1929 Bakers, as in B.R. Baker? ...and behold, the Euclid Avenue streetcar, reincarnated 80 years later as the Healthline BRT! What a waste! Edited October 14, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder
October 12, 20195 yr 4 hours ago, Frmr CLEder said: Bakers, as in B.R. Bakers? ...and behold, the Euclid Avenue streetcar! I’d like to see that many pedestrians again in a pic!
October 14, 20195 yr Good God man. Do you ever have anything positive to say? # of the building facades look fantastic in person. The first building still needs some cleaning, but is night and day from what it looked like. And the last building will get all new stonework.
October 14, 20195 yr Just finishing putting the windows in on the middle 3 facades will make them look finished from the 2nd floor up. The 1st one won’t be far behind. The 5th one, I’m curious to see which way they’re gonna go with. Is there a render for the eastern most facade? And c’mon @Terdolph this is the final stretch of Euclid getting turned into a gem. Lighten up man. I don’t know how anyone could drum up anything negative about this project. But you pulled it off. Edited October 14, 20195 yr by marty15
October 14, 20195 yr I think these buildings will look better than they did back in 1929! I'm with YABO713, I love those black window frames. I miss BR Baker though. I worked at the Randall Park Mall and Chagrin locations in high-school. Edited October 14, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder
October 14, 20195 yr You would think they would finish the crowning on the rightmost building before they put the windows in, but other than that it looks night and day from what it was.
October 14, 20195 yr 3 minutes ago, tastybunns said: You would think they would finish the crowning on the rightmost building before they put the windows in, but other than that it looks night and day from what it was. That cornice will probably be replaced with an FRP replica. Probably still being made.
October 14, 20195 yr It’s going to look magnificent. Not a lot of cities even have that kind of history available for restoration.
October 14, 20195 yr I don't think it is immediately obvious to most people how much redevelopment has occurred in downtown Cleveland. New is nice to have, but I look at so many cities with brand new development, while their older, historic buildings continue to deteriorate. Most of the historical buildings in Cleveland have already been, or are in the process of being rehabilitated. How refreshing it will be to see newly rehabilitated alongside new development. Now we need to work on jobs that provide living wages and the east-side neighborhoods. Edited October 14, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder
October 14, 20195 yr 1 hour ago, CleveFan said: It’s going to look magnificent. Not a lot of cities even have that kind of history available for restoration. Cleveland has great old bones! I remember after the Republican Convention, Greta Van Susteren on twitter made a comment: "if you want in on a little secret Cleveland has great old buildings". I thought that was a nice compliment from someone who is obviously well traveled.
October 15, 20195 yr 4 hours ago, Terdolph said: Still a long way to go on those facades. You can't help yourself, can you, Debbie?
October 15, 20195 yr With these windows going in (which look amazing), they should be able to work all through the winter I would think. What's the estimated completion date? 2020? Edited October 15, 20195 yr by RE Developer In Training
October 15, 20195 yr 4 minutes ago, RE Developer In Training said: With these windows going in (which look amazing), they should be able to work all through the winter I would think. What's the estimated completion date? 2020? I thought it was late 2020... But I could be wrong.
October 15, 20195 yr 50 minutes ago, Terdolph said: I actually like it very much. I just wish is was proceeding faster. I live in another city now and construction just goes much, much faster here. Same with the Schofield. A magnificent renovation but it took forever. If you look at when this project was "announced" until now, we are talking about what, ten years and it is still not even half way done! The current owner/developer of the project closed on the complex in August 2017. They put the financing together and within a year of purchasing started construction. I’d say that’s pretty damn fast. The complex has has been largely vacant and open to the elements for the past 40 years. A lot of the stone work on the facade needs to be custom made off site, and takes time, from the butcher jobs they did to these buildings in the 60s-70s. Edited October 15, 20195 yr by marty15
October 15, 20195 yr ^I have no complaints about the pace of construction, but this complex has most definitely not been vacant and open to the elements for the past 40 years. It had occupied retail until 2007 or so and I think was still a tenanted office building (tho probably with high vacancy) in the 2000s too. It didn't acquire its bombed out appearance until 2008 or so when the owners were investigating facade restoration and the historic tax credits.
October 16, 20195 yr 9 hours ago, StapHanger said: ^I have no complaints about the pace of construction, but this complex has most definitely not been vacant and open to the elements for the past 40 years. It had occupied retail until 2007 or so and I think was still a tenanted office building (tho probably with high vacancy) in the 2000s too. It didn't acquire its bombed out appearance until 2008 or so when the owners were investigating facade restoration and the historic tax credits. City Year’s offices were here in the late 90s/early 00s before they moved to the Leader (before before the Prospect Lizard). Used to have an old City Year mural inside before they tore out the first floors.
October 16, 20195 yr So it looks like the farthest east building had some decoration in 1929 but the facade is being rebuilt without it. That's too bad.
October 16, 20195 yr The buildings look fantastic now with the windows going in. Just think of how they will look when the project is complete. The way downtown was heded in the 90's, I could have never imagined such a remarkaable turnaround of this area. While the projects have taken time, several resiliant locals made this happen. Edited October 16, 20195 yr by newyorker
October 16, 20195 yr 25 minutes ago, newyorker said: The buildings look fantastic now with the windows going in. Just think of how they will look when the project is complete. The way downtown was heded in the 90's, I could have never imagined such a remarkaable turnaround of this area. While the projects have taken time, several resiliant locals made this happen. Except the developer, Alto Partners, is based in Istanbul, Turkey https://altopartners.net/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 16, 20195 yr Let's hope the US government's threat to cripple the Turkish economy will not have an impact on this project.
October 16, 20195 yr I wonder if they'll start adding to the exterior to the building to the far right any time soon. Can't wait to see this stretch of Euclid when the exteriors are all complete. Excited to see what retail goes in as well.
October 18, 20195 yr 3 hours ago, Terdolph said: That's what I am remembering, 2008-so about ten years as I said. Marty thinks Terdolph was being dramatic. Did I do that right @Terdolph?
October 18, 20195 yr On 10/11/2019 at 4:32 PM, lafont said: I'd like to see that balustrade rebuilt! No balustrade shown in prospective image on sign displayed....
October 18, 20195 yr On 10/14/2019 at 5:52 PM, CleveFan said: It’s going to look magnificent. Not a lot of cities even have that kind of history available for restoration. It's a 1920s Beaux Arts luxury commercial look. Fifth Avenue, North Michigan, etc. Most cities have one or two, thank goodness, in their downtowns. We have more, including in some suburbs, but these are particularly urban and in the "right location." Edited October 18, 20195 yr by lafont
October 23, 20195 yr More windows. And they started framing the facade-less building. Edited October 23, 20195 yr by marty15
October 23, 20195 yr In that last photo, it looks like they're also power-washing (again) the facade of the westernmost building, but have cleaned only the top so far. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 24, 20195 yr Windows continuing to go in, framing going up on the building to the right for the new facade (not pictured) and additional details being added back in (cornices etc.) ... looks great! Wonder how they are going to get that last building on the left clean? Seems to be stubborn.
October 25, 20195 yr 4 minutes ago, zbaris87 said: Construction on this project began one year ago, today Alexa play "How Far We've Come" by Matchbox 20 Edited October 25, 20195 yr by GISguy
October 29, 20195 yr The power washing seems to be working. It’s definitely getting cleaner. Also more work on the aluminum framing
October 29, 20195 yr I was going through old pictures on my PC and found this, called the Euclid-Mann Tower.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 29, 20195 yr 23 minutes ago, KJP said: I was going through old pictures on my PC and found this, called the Euclid-Mann Tower.... Poor Eli. He had some big visions, just couldn’t close anything. That was supposed to be a LeMeriden in the lower buildings. Edited October 29, 20195 yr by marty15
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