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Ill see if I can get an update before it gets dark ?

 

Edit: I needed some air so here you go. Still a tough go ahead but it does look like it’s helping!

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    Whatever they are doing, it is working!   EDIT: I just went back to compare to my past photos and I did not realize just how MUCH this worked. What a change. I wonder what this brown stuff i

  • While it is an improvement, the bar for improvement was very low.  I would have preferred to see this tore down and something more modern in its place.  Cleveland has way to many of these gray cast bu

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    Construction’s really coming along!!   I’m so excited for these to be completed. The Euclid Avenue corridor is being transformed from a row of neglected, abandoned buildings into vibrant, be

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I think they're going to have to use chemicals on that one.

Wow even that little bit looks amazing, the 925 is really going to stick out once these are all polished.

I love the lobby pictures that reference historical Euclid Avenue, with its streetcars and Baker's Department Store.

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There is a new link in the May Co. thread to a Scene article with 129 vintage images of Cleveland department stores. 

One image shows the B.R. Baker Company store aka Baker's, and incorrectly identifies it as being a suburban location at Southgate, USA. The Southgate store was very "mod" when it went up, and not at all like the flagship location downtown.

 

The image shown below is from the article and shows the B.R. Baker storefront in the John Hartness Brown Bldg., site of the current Euclid Grand project. 

I worked in this building for a time, as well as in  the Union commerce Bank building next door (I was a bank teller during college in that grand old banking hall,) and both my father and my grandfather kept offices at Union Commerce Bank/Huntington Bldg.  I'd know this storefront in a heartbeat. - Reflected in the windows is the dome of The Cleveland Trust across the street.

 

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On 4/13/2020 at 9:26 AM, ExPatClevGuy said:

There is a new link in the May Co. thread to a Scene article with 129 vintage images of Cleveland department stores. 

One image shows the B.R. Baker Company store aka 'Baker's,' and incorrectly identifies it as being a suburban location at Southgate, USA. The Southgate store was very "mod" when it went up, and not at all like the flagship location downtown.

 

The image shown below is from the article and shows the B.R. Baker storefront in the John Hartness Brown Bldg., site of the current Euclid Grand project. 

I worked in this building for a time, as well as in  the Union commerce Bank building next door (I was a bank teller during college in that grand old banking hall,) and both my father and my grandfather kept offices at Union Commerce Bank/Huntington Bldg.  I'd know this storefront in a heartbeat. - Reflected in the windows is the dome of The Cleveland Trust across the street.

 

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Thanks for your insight! If you have any old photos of your perch at the bank or here I'm sure folks would love to see them!!

Thanks GIS. Sorry no snapshots, but lots of memories. Back in those days photos were expensive to take and develop for a poor CSU Levin College of Urban Affairs undergrad like me.

Also, back in the 80s-90s & prior - you knew who your friends were. They were the ones who would take photos of you with their precious last photos on the roll, and not "save them for something special." ?

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On 4/10/2020 at 5:30 PM, mrclifton88 said:

Ill see if I can get an update before it gets dark ?

 

Edit: I needed some air so here you go. Still a tough go ahead but it does look like it’s helping!

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Since the chemical wash didn't work, today they're sandblasting that building on the left and it's FINALLY getting rid of the grime that's been on there for 100+ years.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

It's getting there.

 

I hope that going forward, routine cleaning becomes part of normal maintenance to prevent these from returning to their previous  condition.

Why is it so much worse on this building than the other two?  I wish they would just clean 925 while they're so close ?

^ That western-most building was a later addition. Originally, there was a narrow street/alleyway there. I assume it must have used different materials. 

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My assumption was that since it wasn't covered up with a facade like the building next to it, it just wasn't as well preserved and exposed to more pollution and grime.

^That’s probably the much more likely explanation! 

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6 hours ago, mrclifton88 said:

Why is it so much worse on this building than the other two?  I wish they would just clean 925 while they're so close ?

 

 

The other portions of the building facade were covered up for quite a while.  This portion of the building was exposed for the entire time.

Also, I have no beef with it looking a little aged and scarred tho.  I think it adds some credibility and dignity to the old gal.

 

- The Union Commerce/Huntington/925/Centennial is sure to get a complete cleaning in the near term when that project finally starts to wrap up.

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Looks like the framing for the bottom portion of the buildings is starting! ?

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What an amazing improvement!  Between the mix of these old renovations and the new more modern buildings, downtown is looking really good.   Those that come for the NFL draft will be impressed.  

Does anyone have a most recent picture of the building on the far western-end

that is being cleansed from its years of grime

2 hours ago, simplythis said:

Does anyone have a most recent picture of the building on the far western-end

that is being cleansed from its years of grime

Oops, sorry I forgot to add that one too...;) 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^Rooftop penthouses look great!  I do hope they keep trying to get the rest of that grime off the lefthand building.   That stuff has been really stubborn.  It must be a different type of stone in the facade. 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

Is the penthouse siding going to match the rest of the building?

Look nice... and highlighting more and more how 925 needs a power washing haha.  If that project ever gets started, I wonder what they plan to do to the eastern unadorned facade . . .

Some crane-action seems to be taking place at JHB today.

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Some shots of the penthouses from Azure. Looks like there’s a few that face north on the courtyard side too. 
 

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Breaking news at JHB!  They are installing the missing cornice pieces!  Taken out my window so not the best, but I will walk down there in a bit for a better view.

 

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Did the far western most building gets re-cleaned?

I am disappointed the cornice wasn't restored to it's original detail.

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^ That Stearn signage is really cool. Perhaps someday that sort of thing will come back into fashion.  

1 hour ago, mrclifton88 said:

Breaking news at JHB!  They are installing the missing cornice pieces!  Taken out my window so not the best, but I will walk down there in a bit for a better view.

 

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Another angle of the work being done down Euclid.
 

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27 minutes ago, dave2017 said:

I am disappointed the cornice wasn't restored to it's original detail.

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Is the piece that has been mounted indicative of the final design of the cornice?

If you look at the rendering above this looks to be the final design. 


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Too bad.  It looks cheap and out of place.

That looks really terrible. SHPO, where are you on this?

It looks like a gigantic bushy unibrow. 

While not as nice as the historical photo, I'd take this over a bunch plastic blowing in the wind on the city's most prominent street! Has to leave a much better impression on both longtime residents and those visiting the city alike.

5 hours ago, dave2017 said:

I am disappointed the cornice wasn't restored to it's original detail.

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It still could be restored to it's original appearance. It would appear that the original cornice had multiple layered features. Let's keep our fingers crossed!

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Found this old stamp of The Stearn Company 's 1021 Euclid Avenue location

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I don't know if this is the case in Cleveland or not, but I live in a plain old two story building in the Pilsen neighborhood of Chicago built in the late 1800's that has a similar but less ornate cornice as pictured in the historical photo. My friends mother owns the building. She has to pay the city a payment quarterly for insurance  that covers damages and liability if the cornice falls off and injures someone on the sidewalk since it technically hangs over the public way. She has thought about removing it, and the building is not protected by any historical restrictions.

 

That was the  moment when the light bulb in my head went off...no wonder these old cornices are gone all over the neighborhood. The fee is not cheap.

 

Here's my building:

 

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Here is what is next to it. This building probably looked similar to mine when it was built. At some point they probably made the flat roof gable and added space.

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anyone have any updated pictures on the cornice?

It hasn't changed....same as the above pics.

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This is nice and great to see this Manhattan-ish block finally restored. I worked in the what is now called 925 Euclid (?) building. Too bad the Geigers was looted,, hope it reopens. Very cool area from E 9 all the way to CSU. 

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11 minutes ago, CLENYC said:

This is nice and great to see this Manhattan-ish block finally restored. I worked in the what is now called 925 Euclid (?) building. Too bad the Geigers looted,, hope it reopens. Very cool area from E 9 all the way to CSU. 


Welcome to the forum. Be sure to search this site for the plans for The Centennial - that will be the new name for the 925 Building / former Huntington Building once Millennium group (Key Tower, Statler, Marble Room) is able to put together financing for that project. It will be stunning.   

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

3 hours ago, CLENYC said:

This is nice and great to see this Manhattan-ish block finally restored. I worked in the what is now called 925 Euclid (?) building. Too bad the Geigers was looted,, hope it reopens. Very cool area from E 9 all the way to CSU. 

To the shock of no one, supposedly Geiger’s is throwing in the towel on the downtown location. 

On 7/24/2020 at 5:32 PM, Ineffable_Matt said:

To the shock of no one, supposedly Geiger’s is throwing in the towel on the downtown location. 

Shame. What will replace it 

yeah the cheap cornice is disappointing, but who looks up except people like us lol.

 

i just can't believe they got the facade so cleaned up -- i mean wow, what an amazing overall improvement.

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Recent pics.

The first post in this thread is from 2006, the year I joined this forum. Progress is painful sometimes...

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