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From the renders, I'm expecting this signage to be nothing less than World Class®

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  • mrclifton88
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    Whatever they are doing, it is working!   EDIT: I just went back to compare to my past photos and I did not realize just how MUCH this worked. What a change. I wonder what this brown stuff i

  • While it is an improvement, the bar for improvement was very low.  I would have preferred to see this tore down and something more modern in its place.  Cleveland has way to many of these gray cast bu

  • urbanetics_
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    Construction’s really coming along!!   I’m so excited for these to be completed. The Euclid Avenue corridor is being transformed from a row of neglected, abandoned buildings into vibrant, be

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Whatever they are doing, it is working!

 

EDIT: I just went back to compare to my past photos and I did not realize just how MUCH this worked. What a change. I wonder what this brown stuff is?

 

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^ Wow, that is a night and day difference!

I was watching him do it yesterday.  They are literally painting it.  It looks fantastic!!  

1 hour ago, mack34 said:

I was watching him do it yesterday.  They are literally painting it.  It looks fantastic!!  

Thy are applying and removing a thick poultice that is non-acidic:  It pulls off the filth like Silly Putty™ pulls up the funny pages.

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word choice: It's not called a compote, but rather poultice

Cool! Now do the really big building on the left!! 🙂

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

1 hour ago, ExPatClevGuy said:

Thy are applying and removing a thick compote that is non acidic. It pulls off the filth like Silly Putty (TM) pulls up the funny pages

So long does the composite stay on before they pull it off. So they are not painting it as mentioned upthread.

 

It’s painted on, but I’ve not been able to figure out exactly how they take it off. It looks to me like they take it off with a small Dremel, but my partner reckoned she saw them use a small sand-blast tool.

Some of the panels they’ve applied and removed the stuff same day, others like those on the left of the photo seemed to have been that way for days. Probably related to how grimy they are. 

My hovercraft is full of eels

Now they've moved onto the architrave and are applying something that is lightening the stone immediately. It's either paint, or something that is having an instant bleaching effect.

My hovercraft is full of eels

Yeah,  its definitely some sort of paint.  The brown was a primer coat.   

I'm impressed they've kept with it. This attention to detail can't be cheap. Sure it wouldn't look as grand without the full clean, but surely could've been a 'return to later' project.

 

Still can't believe it was plastic floating in the wind/musty smell emanating only a short while ago. And across the street the CAC alcove smelling of pee lol and abandonment.

 

Woo Cleveland!

We’re getting there!!😍What a phenomenal  difference this is making. Kudos to the construction crew working on this beat of a renovation - it’s coming along great.

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Amazing difference! This renovation is going to make a huge impact on the Euclid corridor. Projects like this really underscore the great architecture in Cleveland available to be rediscovered and viewed with renewed appreciation. 
 

On 11/13/2020 at 11:30 AM, ExPatClevGuy said:

Thy are applying and removing a thick poultice that is non-acidic:  It pulls off the filth like Silly Putty™ pulls up the funny pages.

Here's some interesting articles about using poultice to clean historical stone facades:

 

https://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/poultices/poultice.htm

 

https://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/masonry-cleaning/masonry_cleaning.htm

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All clean! 

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Looks good.  Now they need to work on the building on the left.

...and the PH floor. Tremendous improvement though.

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Pete's pics positively portray progress

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Im surprised the bricks weren't stored somewhere.

 

3 hours ago, KJP said:

Pete's pics positively portray progress

 

 


Pardon my ignorance - if it’s temporary, why not use asphalt? Seems like that would save a lot of money. 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

4 hours ago, KJP said:

Pete's pics positively portray progress

 

 

I enjoy your alliteration.

1 hour ago, Boomerang_Brian said:


Pardon my ignorance - if it’s temporary, why not use asphalt? Seems like that would save a lot of money. 

My guess is the city won't permit it

5 hours ago, KJP said:

Pete's pics positively portray progress

 

 

35 minutes ago, jeremyck01 said:

 

I enjoy your alliteration.


Akron acolyte appreciates awesome alliteration

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

17 hours ago, KJP said:

Pete's pics positively portray progress

 

 

Hope the city stays on them about this. Sometimes in Cleveland when something gets dragged this long they just forget about it. 

Cannot believe this would happen here and it will probably be the developers rather than the city that would be most keen to have the bricks replaced given evidence so far of what a quality development this has turned into.

I can't be the only person who hates walking on the bricks on Euclid. They look nice but they're slippery in the rain/ice to the point that I cut through Vincent and Chester just to avoid them.

1 hour ago, Garfield12323 said:

I can't be the only person who hates walking on the bricks on Euclid. They look nice but they're slippery in the rain/ice to the point that I cut through Vincent and Chester just to avoid them.

Yes.  The bricks that they chose are too smooth.  It would be nice if they could be ground or etched without damaging their structural integrity.

On 12/14/2020 at 5:53 PM, Boomerang_Brian said:


Pardon my ignorance - if it’s temporary, why not use asphalt? Seems like that would save a lot of money. 

The above answer about city requirements may be correct, but I'd also point out that asphalt is really expensive right now. It might not save as much money as you would think vs. concrete.

Anyone have updated pictures of the far left building with all the cleaning issues?

^ Nothing much has happened the last few weeks. As reported previously, the columns and architrave have been cleaned. The cornice and capitals have not been touched yet. 

My hovercraft is full of eels

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

@KJP Looks great! I love blade signs. 

7 minutes ago, jeremyck01 said:

@KJP Looks great! I love blade signs. 

Likewise! Love big lit up blade signage. Adds so much to the street atmosphere.

I guess they just hung it up and plugged it right in.....

 

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Looks great! I would hate to have one of the windows right next to that sign though. 

I know this has been said often but it just cannot be stressed enough.  The transformation of lower Euclid during the past 15 years has just been incredible.

Oh man, how’s this for a nice touch. 
 

“Fun fact: the mesh grating on the front of the sign is composed of a repeating #EuclidGrand logo”

 

 

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

13 minutes ago, clandman1123 said:

Looks great! I would hate to have one of the windows right next to that sign though. 

Queue the Seinfeld Chicken Roaster episode...

 

https://youtu.be/q40fKsRsHFU

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JHB almost fully put back together.

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^ That building is turning out great. With all the trouble they had with cleaning, I was afraid we would end up with something like the eastern most building. Glad that's not the case.

Are the cornices cleaned on the western most buildings

I wonder if there is any plan for any architectural exterior lighting similar to what was done on The May Company Building

 

On 1/15/2021 at 3:32 PM, simplythis said:

Are the cornices cleaned on the western most buildings

No, not yet

My hovercraft is full of eels

Unfortunately the ground level storefronts are really flat and cheap looking.

Almost there!

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19 hours ago, w28th said:

Unfortunately the ground level storefronts are really flat and cheap looking.

I absolutely agree. They for sure didn't have to make it as lovely as this example I snatched below, but it does represent the kind of quality one would really hope for at street level given the amount of government support it has received.  As it stands, it doesn't even look as good as the storefront widows of BR Baker, Society Bank, or Dallas Shoes; all of which were former tenants of this particular front.  😔

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^ There's still an opportunity to dress-up the storefronts with canopies, fixtures and accents to improve the quality of their appearance. Given the investment, I wouldn't write those storefronts off just yet.

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