July 10, 200816 yr Superb! The photos and the news. Thanks for both. That is shaping up to be such a handsome row of buildings, I love it.
July 10, 200816 yr McCleveland, all I can say is: clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
July 10, 200816 yr Superb! The photos and the news. Thanks for both. That is shaping up to be such a handsome row of buildings, I love it. Yes, lets hope this spreads over to Prospect/Huron.
July 10, 200816 yr you guys are going to have to remember all this undercover reporting and jimmy olsen like photography skills next year when those forumer of the year ballots are cast. :laugh:
July 10, 200816 yr Excellent news! Mayday... thanks for bringing back the memories of Ren and Stimpy. I haven't seen that in a long time. Ok back on topic. https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
July 11, 200816 yr Amazing! All broken and in need of work, it still looks better than the 60's/70's facade.
July 11, 200816 yr I can't believe how they brutalized that facade. Did they always think that the 60s/70s facade would be in style, or that the historic facade would never be considered attractive again? Then again, we all think that the 60s/70s look should be discarded and never return. Who knows if it will be revered again in the future.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 11, 200816 yr Seeing that damage makes me cringe. Not as much as the fact that almost all of Millionaires Row was destroyed though. A lot of restoration work is ahead. https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
July 11, 200816 yr Amazing! All broken and in need of work, it still looks better than the 60's/70's facade. I agree. Those are going to make some sweet condos!
July 11, 200816 yr Amazing! All broken and in need of work, it still looks better than the 60's/70's facade. I agree. Those are going to make some sweet condos! I'm assuming with tax credits this will have to be apartments for the first five years......
July 11, 200816 yr Amazing! All broken and in need of work, it still looks better than the 60's/70's facade. I agree. Those are going to make some sweet condos! I'm assuming with tax credits this will have to be apartments for the first five years...... thanks for the correction, that's what meant.
July 11, 200816 yr Speaking of tax credits, floor plates, multiple buildings, etc. I can't help but think of Loft of Merchant Row A big rehab/gut project in detroit across, 7 (?) buildings Image (two of those buildings are new)
July 15, 200816 yr Anyone with a camera and the inclination should be able to take some nice photos tomorrow of the 1007 building. When I ran by tonight, I noticed that the crew was working until about 8:00pm. They have removed essentially all of the old facade to the point that it is now in a similar state as the 1015. They did not take down the construction elevator, but I would expect that might come down soon, unless they're going to leave it there until the restoration work begins. And the 1007 looks like awesome by the way....
July 15, 200816 yr It's amazingly disturbing how long the black panels hung there but within a a couple weeks the character of Euclid/E9 changed dramatically! The same can and hopefully WILL be said when the horrid, condem-that-architect-to-hell panel system comes off the Schoefield Bldg! Now I'm only 1/2 way to being licensed but boy! there were some big egos back in the day! Following in the footsteps of Mies or any of the Modernists is one thing! Thinking some p.o.s. beige panel is a better fit for St. Peter's Basilica is another!
July 15, 200816 yr I was planning on heading over at lunch today. I noticed the same thing last night and figured I'd give them until lunch today to see if they start taking the construction elevator down.
July 15, 200816 yr At least the fake panel facade has spared the existing stone facade from 40+ years of auto and truck exhaust soot. The building left of 1007 hasn't had that luxury. https://www.instagram.com/cle_and_beyond/https://www.instagram.com/jbkaufer/
July 15, 200816 yr I can't wait until they start mounting the new EFIS facade! BANNED!!! clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
July 15, 200816 yr if someone starts putting up synthetic stucco anywhere near this place, homicides are going to start happening. McCleveland the vigilante.
July 15, 200816 yr They are going to use synthetic material to repair the damage, no? Isn't the same tactic being used on the Terminal Tower? Has to be cost-prohibitive to do otherwise I would think.
July 15, 200816 yr ^Yes, there's micro-cotta and other materials that are essentially resin-based terra cotta substitutes (which is what's being used on Terminal Tower), and then there's EIFS. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
July 15, 200816 yr EIFS. :wink: "EFIS" is the off brand of EIFS I manufacture in my basement. Eli Mann has already ordered 12 baking sheets worth from me. Anyway (sorry mods for all the kidding around), even with a little faux material patching, these facades are gonna be so nice and elegant. I simply can't wait to see lights on in this windows and signs of life there after dark. Ditto for K&D's project.
July 15, 200816 yr Latest set from John Hartness Brown: 1. 1015 Euclid Avenue 2. 1007 Euclid Avenue 3. The main detail on 1007 didn't fair as well as the trumpeting angels at 1015. 4. 1007 Euclid window details 5. Where 1007 and 1015 join 6. 1007 and 1015... together again 7. The John Hartness Brown Building, in it's entirety as it was meant to be seen.
July 15, 200816 yr certainly changes the landscape Agreed! Those buildings and the streetscape already looks much much improved. I can't wait for people to occupy those spaces.
July 15, 200816 yr I skimmed this thread, but couldn't find the answer to this: How many units of housing are supposed to be created here?
July 15, 200816 yr I thought I saw a number- 170, 120 or something. But maybe that was a ballpark #, and not official.
July 16, 200816 yr I was told the total units from both the John Hartness Brown project AND the CAC Building will be about 300. Not sure how it breaks out... regardless, that's A LOT of units. Also, the construction elevator is down. I'll try to get a "completed" pic of it today.
July 16, 200816 yr No word on when they might start work? Mann has his historic tax credits, correct? Is he just waiting on additional financing?
July 16, 200816 yr From what I've heard we won't have to be waiting very long. The only thing left is the design of the "new" facade. And they don't need that in place or approved to begin construction/ demolition of the interiors / restoration of the exterior. And I heard (but have not confirmed) that there is no financing needed on this project. All privately done.
July 16, 200816 yr And I heard (but have not confirmed) that there is no financing needed on this project. All privately done. Nice.
July 16, 200816 yr From what I've heard we won't have to be waiting very long. The only thing left is the design of the "new" facade. And they don't need that in place or approved to begin construction/ demolition of the interiors / restoration of the exterior. And I heard (but have not confirmed) that there is no financing needed on this project. All privately done. Thanks as always for the info! Do you know if the whole project (JH Brown only, not CAC) is planned as a single phase? Or is the new tower part of a later phase?
July 16, 200816 yr ^Thanks. Aesthetics aside (haven't seen enough to really form an opinion), the new tower is kind of a big deal, joining a pretty short list of new construction residential downtown. Definitely a good sign.
July 16, 200816 yr Thanks for the info McCleveland. It's great to see so many units coming to Euclid, and so quick. The Hartness+CAC+Ameritrust+668+new East 4th units=lots o progress!
July 16, 200816 yr So, wait a sec, that tower is going to be added atop one of the buildings with private money sooner than later?
July 16, 200816 yr it's the building still clad in aluminum in the last picture. I believe they are adding either 6 or 8 stories to it.
July 16, 200816 yr This? In phase one? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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