July 28, 20222 yr 1 minute ago, John7165 said: Democrats used the filibuster over 300 times during the Trump Administration, you must have been seething. I'm not a fan of the filibuster. But using the filibuster to block legislation to help veterans who suffered in burn pits is a serious low that goes beyond "but the Democrats." Chew on that as long as you have to when the GOP pretends to care about veterans.
July 28, 20222 yr 11 minutes ago, John7165 said: In all fairness to the GOP, reconciliation is a chicken sh*t way to get a bill passes. Someday soon we'll be thanking the GOP for standing to the "climate agenda" scam which will only impoverish Americans while rewarding the billionaires and further empowering China, who make 80% of the solar panels. Really. "in all fairness to the GOP"...you mean the party that used reconciliation to pass a huge tax break for the wealthy.
July 28, 20222 yr Author Oh boy, a good old fashioned political argument that will change nobodies mind and get the thread locked down! Yipee!
July 28, 20222 yr Just now, cbussoccer said: Oh boy, a good old fashioned political argument that will change nobodies mind and get the thread locked down! Yipee! But the politics are pertinent to this topic. One political party has decided to play politics instead of supporting legislation to on shore jobs to America. and also to support burn pit victims. Real pro-business and pro-life stuff.
July 28, 20222 yr Can we just get @freefoururout of here? He isn't a Columbus forumer and he didn't come here for any other reason than to make inflammatory political comments. Edited July 28, 20222 yr by TH3BUDDHA
July 28, 20222 yr Author Just now, freefourur said: But the politics are pertinent to this topic. One political party has decided to play politics instead of supporting legislation to on shore jobs to America. and also to support burn pit victims. Real pro-business and pro-life stuff. The situation is inherently political, yes. But, yourself and others have already proved to be incapable of discussing the topic without resorting to childish political arguing and insulting. It doesn't add any value to the conversation here whatsoever and will certainly lead to all out keyboard war that will get this thread locked down. Anyone who's spent more than five minutes on the internet can see that coming, so let's just stop the obnoxious arguing and insulting now.
July 28, 20222 yr 3 minutes ago, TH3BUDDHA said: Can we just get @freefoururout of here? He isn't a Columbus forumer and he didn't come here for any other reason than to make inflammatory political comments. This topic is about Intel's project in the state of Ohio which depends on action by the Federal Congress. If anything i am posting is inaccurate please feel free to correct me. But the fact is that, the GOP are whipping against this legislation and it can have a serious impact on Columbus and the State of Ohio. I'm sorry if those facts make you want to cancel me.
July 28, 20222 yr 3 minutes ago, freefourur said: This topic is about Intel's project in the state of Ohio which depends on action by the Federal Congress. If anything i am posting is inaccurate please feel free to correct me. But the fact is that, the GOP are whipping against this legislation and it can have a serious impact on Columbus and the State of Ohio. I'm sorry if those facts make you want to cancel me. It's the way you go about discussion. I'd love to talk about it. But, I think the situation is probably a little more complicated than "evil Republicans hate America", but that's the only thing you came here to say. I'd like to actually hear opinions on why they have changed like this, because I honestly don't know. People keep bringing up climate change. I'm unsure what that has to do with the CHIPS act getting passed. Did Democrats add climate change stuff to the bill or what?
July 28, 20222 yr Author 10 minutes ago, freefourur said: This topic is about Intel's project in the state of Ohio which depends on action by the Federal Congress. If anything i am posting is inaccurate please feel free to correct me. But the fact is that, the GOP are whipping against this legislation and it can have a serious impact on Columbus and the State of Ohio. I'm sorry if those facts make you want to cancel me. "the GOP was willing to own the libs rather than passing important legislation" "Now House GOP is whipping against just to own the libs. This is not a serious governing party. " "Chew on that as long as you have to when the GOP pretends to care about veterans. " "One political party has decided to play politics instead of supporting legislation" It's statements like these that are completely unnecessary, yet you make them to rile up the other side in an attempt to score pointless rhetorical internet points. Then, people like @John7165 take the bait and make their own unnecessary quips because they feel the need to defend their side, and we end up with a pointless political bickering session that eventually results in a locked thread.
July 28, 20222 yr 13 minutes ago, TH3BUDDHA said: It's the way you go about discussion. I'd love to talk about it. But, I think the situation is probably a little more complicated than "evil Republicans hate America", but that's the only thing you came here to say. I'd like to actually hear opinions on why they have changed like this, because I honestly don't know. People keep bringing up climate change. I'm unsure what that has to do with the CHIPS act getting passed. Did Democrats add climate change stuff to the bill or what? The GOP would only support the CHIPS act in the Senate if Democrats would not pass climate change legislation in the Senate. Manchin had stated a while back that wasn't supporting the the climate bill. Subsequently, CHIPS passed on a bipartisn basis in the Senate. In the meantime Schumer was negotiating a climate bill with Manchin. Manchin stated his support for the climate after CHIPs got Senate approval. The GOP in the House are now starting to whip against the bill because they are mad about a separate piece of legislation. Unrelated, they also filibustered a bill to help veterans injured from burn pits and Agent Orange. So in a way, yes they are only doing this because they are mad at Democrats. That's the low down. Edited July 28, 20222 yr by freefourur
July 28, 20222 yr 5 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: "the GOP was willing to own the libs rather than passing important legislation" "Now House GOP is whipping against just to own the libs. This is not a serious governing party. " "Chew on that as long as you have to when the GOP pretends to care about veterans. " "One political party has decided to play politics instead of supporting legislation" It's statements like these that are completely unnecessary, yet you make them to rile up the other side in an attempt to score pointless rhetorical internet points. Then, people like @John7165 take the bait and make their own unnecessary quips because they feel the need to defend their side, and we end up with a pointless political bickering session that eventually results in a locked thread. In fairness, a lot of that was my reaction to @john7165 and I could be more tactful in some comments. But the truth is that the GOP is trying to block important legislation for Ohio and the Columbus area because they are mad at Democrats. Edited July 28, 20222 yr by freefourur
July 28, 20222 yr 12 minutes ago, TH3BUDDHA said: It's the way you go about discussion. I'd love to talk about it. But, I think the situation is probably a little more complicated than "evil Republicans hate America", but that's the only thing you came here to say. I'd like to actually hear opinions on why they have changed like this, because I honestly don't know. People keep bringing up climate change. I'm unsure what that has to do with the CHIPS act getting passed. Did Democrats add climate change stuff to the bill or what? Once CHIPS got through the Senate, Manchin and Schumer came to an agreement on the Build Back Better bill, which has a lot of climate change and green energy money allocated in it. Mitch McConnell was holding CHIPS hostage as a way to prevent the passage of the Build Back Better bill and now that CHIPs passed the Senate the GOP is out of ways to stop CHIPS and use it as leverage against Build Back Better. It's basically politicians politicking.
July 28, 20222 yr Author 1 minute ago, freefourur said: In fairness, a lot of that was my reaction to @john7165 and I could be more tactful in some comments. Who cares who started it? Just stop it. It's annoying. 2 minutes ago, freefourur said: But the truth is that the GOP is trying to block important legislation for Ohio and the Columbus area because they are mad at Democrats. See, this is just reductionist child-like nonsense that leads to jabs from the other side. The politicians are politicking, just like they always do. Your side does it. @John7165's side does. Everyone's side does. That's how the legislative process currently works here. The legislatures are working to pass/stop legislation based on what their constituents will generally support. It's not one group being mad at the other, or anyone trying "own" anyone. It's literally just politicians doing their job.
July 28, 20222 yr 1 minute ago, cbussoccer said: See, this is just reductionist child-like nonsense that leads to jabs from the other side. The politicians are politicking, just like they always do. Your side does it. @John7165's side does. Everyone's side does. That's how the legislative process currently works here. The legislatures are working to pass/stop legislation based on what their constituents will generally support. It's not one group being mad at the other, or anyone trying "own" anyone. It's literally just politicians doing their job. Saying that the GOP is trying to block CHIPS because they are mad at Democrats is not reductionist. It is quite literally what is happening. So I'm not sure why you are coming in here with your barbs while pretending to be above the fray.
July 28, 20222 yr 4 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Who cares who started it? Just stop it. It's annoying. You seemed to care who started when you made your comment. Again, pretending to be above the fray but only attacking me and not those on your "side."
July 28, 20222 yr Author 2 minutes ago, freefourur said: Saying that the GOP is trying to block CHIPS because they are mad at Democrats is not reductionist. It is quite literally what is happening. So I'm not sure why you are coming in here with your barbs while pretending to be above the fray. Ok, I'm not going to continue debating this. I think we've collectively laid out the situation as it relates to the CHIPS Act and effect on the Intel development, so let's move on. I didn't want to see a giant political argument break out and shut down thread which is why I jumped in, and I think we've avoided that so that's all that matters.
July 28, 20222 yr Author 2 minutes ago, TIm said: Soooooooo..... anyone got any construction pics or something? @CbusOrBustget on it!
July 28, 20222 yr No more politics in this thread other than any new specific info! This is a development thread-take the politics of the bill, etc. and discuss that in the politics section of the forum. So anyway, any news, pics, rumors etc???
July 28, 20222 yr Just now, cbussoccer said: @CbusOrBustget on it! Really! I need pics, info, rumors, ... anything. Once the bill passes(assuming it does and all) and we know for sure the billions are coming, I think the rest of the "boom" will really start to take place. And we are going to need housing and hopefully some downtown residential towers dammit! lol. Like others have stated, when it comes to this I am greedy and want every. possible. benefit. for Central Ohio!!!
July 28, 20222 yr Author 36 minutes ago, Toddguy said: Really! I need pics, info, rumors, ... anything. Once the bill passes(assuming it does and all) and we know for sure the billions are coming, I think the rest of the "boom" will really start to take place. And we are going to need housing and hopefully some downtown residential towers dammit! lol. Like others have stated, when it comes to this I am greedy and want every. possible. benefit. for Central Ohio!!! I have to take 161 east from 270 to get to work, so as excited as I am for this boom to happen, I'm really not looking forward to a massive increase in traffic. I'm such a NIMBY, lol.
July 28, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, cbussoccer said: @CbusOrBustget on it! Absolutely! lol Every Monday, since the Intel announcement, we've been hitting Huong on Morse Rd for their delicious pho, and then we head on out to the Intel site. we will definitely be back out there Monday! 😉
July 28, 20222 yr 10 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said: Absolutely! lol Every Monday, since the Intel announcement, we've been hitting Huong on Morse Rd for their delicious pho, and then we head on out to the Intel site. we will definitely be back out there Monday! 😉 You just let this forum know when we owe you some pho.
July 28, 20222 yr Final vote in the House on the CHIPS Act happening right now! (It's on C-SPAN if you're interested in following along)
July 28, 20222 yr 27 minutes ago, Luvcbus said: Final vote in the House on the CHIPS Act happening right now! (It's on C-SPAN if you're interested in following along) Vote isn't officially over, but if my basic arithmetic is correct the CHIPS Act will be passing very shortly.
July 28, 20222 yr 1 minute ago, TIm said: Vote isn't officially over, but if my basic arithmetic is correct the CHIPS Act will be passing very shortly. Yes!!! It just passed!! It now moves to President Biden's desk. Exciting times for Central Ohio!
July 28, 20222 yr 15 minutes ago, Luvcbus said: Yes!!! It just passed!! It now moves to President Biden's desk. Exciting times for Central Ohio 🎉🎆✨❤️🍾 🤩 Bring on the FABS(all damn ten of them)!!!!! and let the boom begin!!!!!
July 28, 20222 yr FABulous news! Can't wait to see the ripple effect through Central and all of Ohio!
July 28, 20222 yr Cool, it passed. Now, we can stop bickering about stupid things and go back to bickering about really important things, like how this means Central Ohio is clearly the best.
July 28, 20222 yr 30 minutes ago, CMHOhio said: FABulous news! Can't wait to see the ripple effect through Central and all of Ohio! I'm optimistic that something of this size will ripple through the whole state and maybe neighboring states to a degree.
July 29, 20222 yr 9 hours ago, cbussoccer said: I have to take 161 east from 270 to get to work, so as excited as I am for this boom to happen, I'm really not looking forward to a massive increase in traffic. I'm such a NIMBY, lol. Well it is ok to be a bit pissed about the traffic and housing prices(except if you own anywhere near there-then congrats!)...as long as you direct any effort at, ya know, us building more transit or housing of all types(including downtown residential towers, just sayin) which we need, instead of just trying to stop progress, right?
July 29, 20222 yr Intel's Impact: Water and sewer deal means Columbus draws from New Albany's windfall A water and sewer agreement Columbus City Council approved this week means the city will tap into New Albany's economic bounty from Intel Corp. and surrounding development. In addition to private users paying their utility bills, New Albany will pay as much as $10.5 million to Columbus as land is developed in its expanded industrial park and share 26% of new income tax revenue. Columbus will focus that money on priorities including affordable housing, human services, small businesses and workforce development, said council member Nick Bankston, who leads the economic development committee that shepherded the deal. "To be able to invest back in our neighborhoods and services and our people is a win-win for the city of Columbus, but it also shows the strength of the Columbus region," Bankston said in an interview. "We’re thinking as a region, not just as municipalities. ... Whenever we can have opportunities to share in major projects like this, it helps everyone." More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/07/28/intel-water-columbus-new-albany-deal.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 29, 20222 yr https://semianalysis.com/intel-cuts-fab-buildout-by-4b-to-pay-billions-in-dividends-first-net-loss-in-over-30-years-cutting-fab-buildouts-but-committed-to-growing-the-dividend/ Not sure if anyone has heard the news yet, but Intel reported horrendous earnings last night. As a result, they’re cutting $4b from their fab buildout plan to boost dividends. This news has made me question if they’ll actually finish 2 fabs let alone 8-10. Very turbulent times ahead at Intel…
July 29, 20222 yr 2 minutes ago, Kriegs said: https://semianalysis.com/intel-cuts-fab-buildout-by-4b-to-pay-billions-in-dividends-first-net-loss-in-over-30-years-cutting-fab-buildouts-but-committed-to-growing-the-dividend/ Not sure if anyone has heard the news yet, but Intel reported horrendous earnings last night. As a result, they’re cutting $4b from their fab buildout plan to boost dividends. This news has made me question if they’ll actually finish 2 fabs let alone 8-10. Very turbulent times ahead at Intel… I would assume that’s until they get the first one running and generating revenue. Global supply chains still suck and we need a friendly country to buy the mines here that were allowed to be sold to China.
July 29, 20222 yr 22 hours ago, aderwent said: is that really what it seems? that site prep has already begun? whoa!
July 29, 20222 yr 17 hours ago, ColDayMan said: Intel's Impact: Water and sewer deal means Columbus draws from New Albany's windfall A water and sewer agreement Columbus City Council approved this week means the city will tap into New Albany's economic bounty from Intel Corp. and surrounding development. In addition to private users paying their utility bills, New Albany will pay as much as $10.5 million to Columbus as land is developed in its expanded industrial park and share 26% of new income tax revenue. Columbus will focus that money on priorities including affordable housing, human services, small businesses and workforce development, said council member Nick Bankston, who leads the economic development committee that shepherded the deal. "To be able to invest back in our neighborhoods and services and our people is a win-win for the city of Columbus, but it also shows the strength of the Columbus region," Bankston said in an interview. "We’re thinking as a region, not just as municipalities. ... Whenever we can have opportunities to share in major projects like this, it helps everyone." More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/07/28/intel-water-columbus-new-albany-deal.html excellent. water rights continue to give and give for columbus. this is what cleveland royally blew by giving up water rights to suburbia, although that was an earlier era. oh well.
July 29, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, Kriegs said: https://semianalysis.com/intel-cuts-fab-buildout-by-4b-to-pay-billions-in-dividends-first-net-loss-in-over-30-years-cutting-fab-buildouts-but-committed-to-growing-the-dividend/ Not sure if anyone has heard the news yet, but Intel reported horrendous earnings last night. As a result, they’re cutting $4b from their fab buildout plan to boost dividends. This news has made me question if they’ll actually finish 2 fabs let alone 8-10. Very turbulent times ahead at Intel… What a weird and kind of insulting article. Here's the full quote from the earning call (emphasis added) Quote For net capex, we're revising down our forecast to $23 billion, $4 billion less than our previous guidance as we moderately adjust our investment in capacity and take advantage of potentially larger than originally forecast capital assets, highlighting significant progress on our smart capital strategy. We expect these actions to offset lower than originally forecast operating cash flow, allowing us to reaffirm adjusted free cash flow of negative $1 billion to negative $2 billion for the year. And here's a quote from later on in the earning call (emphasis added). Quote Good question. So important thing is that when you look at growth capex, it's about 25% of the reduction. About 75% of the reduction is actually increased capital offset. So it's not a significant adjustment to the growth number. It's almost entirely on the equipment side, the reduction, and some of it is just timing of receipts of equipment. And sorry, Joe, what was the other part of your question? So a 75% of this $4 billion "reduction" is just accounting magic. They're only actually cutting $1 bil. company wide, and we have no idea whether any of those cuts relate to Ohio fabs. Within the $1 bil., a lot of the "reduction" is actually just a delay in equipment delivery. Intel is being offered a once in a lifetime opportunity to take advantage of billions of dollars on a silver platter and revitalize its floundering core business. Maybe they're stupid enough to sabotage that for a few quarters of extra pennies in dividends, but I really doubt it. That's all projection. What I actually see is a bunch of construction equipment actively digging and billions of dollars of federal and state money. They're going to build a huge [*insert choice expletive*] facility, and I won't believe otherwise until the digging stops. Edited July 29, 20222 yr by LlamaLawyer
August 1, 20222 yr Some were asking for pics from the Intel site the other day. I did get some today but they may be hard to see because a lot of the action is somewhat off of the road. (you'll probably have to zoom in on most of these to see much) From Green Chapel:
August 1, 20222 yr Here's a few more from the Intel site. These are from Mink: (i have a few more that i can't upload right now for some reason. I'll try again later)
August 2, 20222 yr 2 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said: Here's the other ones i got at Intel yesterday. These are from Mink as well: You had me worried it was Monday again for a second!
August 2, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, TIm said: You had me worried it was Monday again for a second! ha! i tried uploading them yesterday but kept getting an error (error 200)
August 2, 20222 yr I've been talking to some of the larger land owners out that way, or people closely connected to them, and there will be some more large sale announcements in the near future. Hold on to your butts!
August 2, 20222 yr Author 20 minutes ago, Airsup said: I've been talking to some of the larger land owners out that way, or people closely connected to them, and there will be some more large sale announcements in the near future. Hold on to your butts! Sales related to additional companies starting up operations here?
August 2, 20222 yr 20 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Sales related to additional companies starting up operations here? For the locations of the properties, I'm guessing businesses in the Project Cardinal area, and housing further east.
August 2, 20222 yr Rumor has it there may be some multi-family housing going it at Watkins and Morse Rd, but nothing concrete yet. Just for fun, the properties outlined here along Morse, Watkins, and York, are Wexner owned. That's a big chunk of land.
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