February 14, 20241 yr On 1/31/2024 at 4:03 PM, John7165 said: Anyone have any guesses as to what these "large"pieces of equipment are going to be? "Intel needs to transport and install plenty of fab tools at the site in the coming months. The current project involves transporting 18 oversized loads on trailers over 200 feet long, which could take up to nine months to finish. It is unclear which tools Intel will transport, but since the site in Ohio is brand new, it could be anything from advanced lithography machines to turbine generators." https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/delivery-of-equipment-to-intels-ohio-fab-delayed-for-several-weeks
February 15, 20241 yr Does anyone know where these gigantic pieces of machinery are coming from? Like, Taiwan or something?
February 15, 20241 yr 11 hours ago, Silent Matt said: Does anyone know where these gigantic pieces of machinery are coming from? Like, Taiwan or something? If you're talking about the lithography machines, then those are most likely coming from ASML in the Netherlands.
February 19, 20241 yr CHIPS Act funding for Ohio One project could top $10 billion "A report Friday from Bloomberg says the subsidies for the New Albany project could be substantial, coming in at more than $10 billion. Negotiations are ongoing, but the package is expected to include both loan and direct grants, according to Bloomberg's sources. Neither federal officials nor Intel Corp. have commented on the report. Earlier this month, the Wall Street Journal reported Intel was delaying its timeline for the Ohio project, in part due to the slow rollout of federal funds. An Intel spokeswoman confirmed to Columbus Business First that the company "will not meet the aggressive 2025 production goal that we anticipated," but said "we have not made any recent changes to our pace of construction or anticipated timelines." The Chips and Science Act, passed shortly after Intel announced its plan to invest at least $20 billion in Ohio, limits any one applicant to $3 billion in grants and loans – unless the project is certified as necessary to increase the domestic supply of semiconductors for "national security and economic competitiveness," or meets national security needs, according to the notice of funding. Intel has previously said that New Albany will serve as a U.S.-based manufacturer for federal defense needs." https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/02/19/chips-act-intel-malta-fab-subsidies.html
February 20, 20241 yr Dozens of shipments of Intel equipment stalled in southern Ohio before delivery "As many as 40 shipments of industrial equipment intended for the Intel build in New Albany are being held up in southern Ohio along the Ohio River. Groveport Police Chief Casey Adams says that four of those deliveries are massive, each potentially weighing more than 500,000 pounds. But dozens of smaller loads will be coming up from Manchester, Ohio, possibly next month. Manchester sits on the Ohio River in Adams County, just east of Maysville, Ky. The tentative plan is to move those smaller shipments through basically as a test to figure out the best routes for the larger shipments. The smaller loads can travel on highways, but the mammoth loads cannot because of bridges and height restrictions. The delay is a result of several factors, including weather, and waiting for permits for the large loads, which can only travel at 10 mph. But they need to determine the routes before they get the permits. The largest of the deliveries could take several days to get from Manchester to New Albany." Adams shared a statement on Tuesday that outlined several logistical details: • The four large transports will be about 266 feet in length and more than 20 feet tall • The transports will take place during daylight hours only • Transports through Franklin County will take place on weekends only • Utility companies will assist with the large transports in order to minimize traffic disruptions • ODOT will notify affected communities seven days in advance https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/dozens-shipments-intel-equipment-held-stalled-delayed-southern-ohio-delivery-manchester-river-new-albany-expansion Edited February 20, 20241 yr by Luvcbus
February 20, 20241 yr 11 minutes ago, Luvcbus said: Dozens of shipments of Intel equipment stalled in southern Ohio before delivery "As many as 40 shipments of industrial equipment intended for the Intel build in New Albany are being held up in southern Ohio along the Ohio River. Groveport Police Chief Casey Adams says that four of those deliveries are massive, each potentially weighing more than 500,000 pounds. But dozens of smaller loads will be coming up from Manchester, Ohio, possibly next month. Manchester sits on the Ohio River in Adams County, just east of Maysville, Ky. The tentative plan is to move those smaller shipments through basically as a test to figure out the best routes for the larger shipments. The smaller loads can travel on highways, but the mammoth loads cannot because of bridges and height restrictions. The delay is a result of several factors, including weather, and waiting for permits for the large loads, which can only travel at 10 mph. But they need to determine the routes before they get the permits. The largest of the deliveries could take several days to get from Manchester to New Albany." Adams shared a statement on Tuesday that outlined several logistical details: • The four large transports will be about 266 feet in length and more than 20 feet tall • The transports will take place during daylight hours only • Transports through Franklin County will take place on weekends only • Utility companies will assist with the large transports in order to minimize traffic disruptions • ODOT will notify affected communities seven days in advance https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/dozens-shipments-intel-equipment-held-stalled-delayed-southern-ohio-delivery-manchester-river-new-albany-expansion I'm assuming all of the other sites around the country and world had the same logistics problems. I wonder if Ohio took some cues or got some tips from them?
February 28, 20241 yr Nearly 2 dozen 'super loads' moving from southern to central Ohio set to begin March 6th "The first of nearly two dozen extremely large truck loads heading from the Ohio River to central Ohio will begin next month, according to the Ohio Department of Transportation. The truck loads, known as "super loads," begin on March 6. Most of the loads are associated with the future Intel semiconductor facilities in Licking County. Some of the loads will weigh about 900,000 pounds and will be 19 feet wide, 24 feet high and 270 feet long. While there are no official closures or detours planned, slow-rolling roadblocks will be necessary during the transit and drivers should prepare for long delays along the route. Each oversized/overweight load will take eight to 15 days to reach its destination." The exact route the loads will follow can be found here: https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/about-us/news/statewide/super-load-moving-through-southern-and-central-ohio
February 28, 20241 yr 12 hours ago, CbusOrBust said: Nearly 2 dozen 'super loads' moving from southern to central Ohio set to begin March 6th "The first of nearly two dozen extremely large truck loads heading from the Ohio River to central Ohio will begin next month, according to the Ohio Department of Transportation. The truck loads, known as "super loads," begin on March 6. Most of the loads are associated with the future Intel semiconductor facilities in Licking County. Some of the loads will weigh about 900,000 pounds and will be 19 feet wide, 24 feet high and 270 feet long. While there are no official closures or detours planned, slow-rolling roadblocks will be necessary during the transit and drivers should prepare for long delays along the route. Each oversized/overweight load will take eight to 15 days to reach its destination." The exact route the loads will follow can be found here: https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/about-us/news/statewide/super-load-moving-through-southern-and-central-ohio Is the 900,000 pound number right?? That's 450 tons.
March 4, 20241 yr Can't get them all in one shot... But the crane count at Intel is now in the double digits
March 5, 20241 yr A small update on a couple of the larger Intel related infrastructure projects currently under construction around the site... Green Chapel Rd rebuild and widening: Green Chapel Rd, which forms the northern border of the site, is about halfway complete. The southern portion of the new roadway is done. Streetlights are up on the south side and landscaping work continues. Work has started on the northern portion of the roadway as well. Mink Street rebuild and widening: Mink Street, which forms the eastern border of the site, is also about halfway complete. The western portion of the new roadway is open and work is well underway on the east side of the rebuild.
March 5, 20241 yr ODOT confirms super loads heading to Central Ohio to begin tomorrow morning "The first of about two dozen “super loads” is scheduled to hit the road in Ohio Wednesday morning. The super loads will leave from a dock on the Ohio River in Manchester and be delivered to New Albany or Hebron. The first load will be delivered to Freepoint in Hebron, but it could take days to get there, and cause major traffic backups on the way. ODOT has already started removing overhead signs on the route to make room for the “super loads”. Traffic lights and some utilities will also have to be moved as the loads make their way through towns. ODOT estimates the process could take months. Each load could take up to eight to 15 days." https://www.10tv.com/article/news/local/super-loads-heading-intel-site-other-companies-could-cause-traffic-backups-over-next-few-months/530-ebebe902-4406-489e-8660-6ccd38ccf844
March 6, 20241 yr "The first in a series of what state traffic officials call “super loads” of cargo are now moving through Adams County to Central Ohio." Here's a picture of the initial load as it leaves for Central Ohio: https://www.fox19.com/2024/03/06/expect-traffic-delays-super-loads-move-adams-county-central-ohio/
March 6, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said: "The first in a series of what state traffic officials call “super loads” of cargo are now moving through Adams County to Central Ohio." Here's a picture of the initial load: https://www.fox19.com/2024/03/06/expect-traffic-delays-super-loads-move-adams-county-central-ohio/ CbusOrBust and his trusty camera are first team All-America.
March 6, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, John7165 said: CbusOrBust and his trusty camera are first team All-America. Lol. I didn't snatch that one. Just "borrowed it" from that article 😉
March 7, 20241 yr A newscast from southern Ohio ran a 2 minute story with video of the first super load as it traveled near Portsmouth:
March 8, 20241 yr The first (and smallest) of the super loads is resting near Rickenbacker for the night.
March 9, 20241 yr This load did not spend the night on Old Bixby Road in Groveport. But there is a police trailer set up at the 317 and Bixby intersection. And the solar-powered Groveport Robocop is stationed at Old Bixby Road to watch for shenanigans.
March 9, 20241 yr Author 46 minutes ago, GCrites said: This load did not spend the night on Old Bixby Road in Groveport. But there is a police trailer set up at the 317 and Bixby intersection. And the solar-powered Groveport Robocop is stationed at Old Bixby Road to watch for shenanigans. Yep, saw all that today. I drove by hoping to see it parked there but I didn’t see anything. Where exactly is it parked right now?
March 9, 20241 yr From the pictures it's on a strip of asphalt next to the Rickenbacker hotel. to clarify, the big one, not the funky Air Age motel I have always liked for some reason Edited March 9, 20241 yr by GCrites
March 9, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, cbussoccer said: Yep, saw all that today. I drove by hoping to see it parked there but I didn’t see anything. Where exactly is it parked right now? It's on Rickenbacker Parkway -not too far from London-Groveport Road
March 9, 20241 yr 10 hours ago, GCrites said: This load did not spend the night on Old Bixby Road in Groveport. But there is a police trailer set up at the 317 and Bixby intersection. And the solar-powered Groveport Robocop is stationed at Old Bixby Road to watch for shenanigans. It will spend tonight (Saturday night) at the spot on Old Bixby Road... The load will then continue its journey on Sunday, with the first leg of that trip going from Bixby Road to U.S. 33. Sunday's route is as follows: • Travel east on Bixby Road to U.S. 33 • Travel east in the westbound lanes of U.S. 33 to the Gender Road southbound to U.S. 33 westbound ramp in Canal Winchester • Travel the wrong way on the Gender Road southbound to U.S. 33 westbound ramp • Take SR 674/Gender Road north to Brice Road • Take Brice Road north to the intersection with Tussing Road/SR 204 in Columbus • Travel east on Tussing Road/SR 204 east to SR 310 • Travel north on SR 310 to U.S. 40 in Etna More details can be found here: https://www.nbc4i.com/intel-in-ohio/ohio-super-load-update-which-parts-of-highways-will-see-traffic-delays/ Edited March 9, 20241 yr by Luvcbus
March 9, 20241 yr 37 minutes ago, GCrites said: Today is going to be like a half day for it then. It's already at Old Bixby Rd now- It can't go any further today because the permit they have for the Columbus portion of the route only allows it to travel on any streets in Columbus on Sundays.
March 10, 20241 yr I had about fifteen minutes Friday evening with someone involved with these super loads and he gave me a few details I thought you guys might be interested in. • The first super load that left for central Ohio on Wednesday, is a combustion chamber that weighs nearly 400,000 pounds. It is going to a recycling plant in Hebron. • The second super load will begin traveling to central Ohio this Thursday. It will be the same size and shape as the first load. It is also a combustion chamber heading to the same spot in Hebron. • After the first two loads arrive in Hebron, they will begin moving loads up to Intel. They will move 22 loads to Intel over the next several months. • One load that will be hauled to Intel will be long enough to stretch from one goal line to the other 10 yd line on a football field! That load will weigh 900,000 pounds. I included this link from ODOT that has some other information on the second super load heading to central Ohio on Thursday: https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/about-us/news/statewide/second-super-load-will-head-toward-central-ohio-next-week
March 10, 20241 yr @CbusOrBust do the combustion chambers going to the recycling plant have anything to do with Intel, or is it just unrelated and happens to be shipping at the same time?
March 10, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, JohnSummit said: @CbusOrBust do the combustion chambers going to the recycling plant have anything to do with Intel, or is it just unrelated and happens to be shipping at the same time? They're unrelated. I think the timing just so happened to coincide with the upcoming loads headed to Intel.
March 11, 20241 yr Hearing rumors of Intel backing out of building the Columbus facility?? Please tell me these aren't factual? Edited March 11, 20241 yr by OhioFinest
March 11, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, OhioFinest said: Hearing rumors of Intel backing out of building the Columbus facility?? Any truth to these rumors?? Says they have pulled the plug...??? Hearing Samsung has suspended their building operations in Texas too? Maybe you're referring to this: Intel Delays $20 Billion Ohio Project, Citing Slow Chip Market Construction on two factories now slated to be finished in late 2026 as company also waits for government incentives By Asa Fitch Updated Feb. 2, 2024 at 9:23 am ET https://www.wsj.com/tech/intel-delays-20-billion-ohio-project-citing-slow-chip-market-713bde9e
March 12, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, OhioFinest said: Hearing rumors of Intel backing out of building the Columbus facility?? Please tell me these aren't factual? Man if I’m proven right I will fall over laughing. I’ve been saying that’d happen ever since the project was announced.
March 12, 20241 yr I highly doubt they'd completely back out now with all these "super loads" being trucked in. Maybe downscale, perhaps. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 12, 20241 yr 9 hours ago, OhioFinest said: Hearing rumors of Intel backing out of building the Columbus facility?? Please tell me these aren't factual? I’ve said from the beginning on here that delays were going to happen. The necessary infrastructure won’t be able to be delivered until at least 2025. The 2026 deadline is completely possible, but it’ll be at least Q4.
March 12, 20241 yr 18 hours ago, OhioFinest said: Hearing rumors of Intel backing out of building the Columbus facility?? Please tell me these aren't factual? This project is basically essential to Intel's (and the U.S. Government's) long-term plans. Look for a CHIPS Act funding announcement later this month. You can never be certain about any development project, but this one is as certain as any will ever be.
March 12, 20241 yr 11 hours ago, ColDayMan said: I highly doubt they'd completely back out now with all these "super loads" being trucked in. Maybe downscale, perhaps. super loads are often the reason for pulling out
March 12, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, LlamaLawyer said: This project is basically essential to Intel's (and the U.S. Government's) long-term plans. Look for a CHIPS Act funding announcement later this month. You can never be certain about any development project, but this one is as certain as any will ever be. I believe they've already designated this site for military chip production, too. The social media outage moan pages love to paint a picture of any type of delay, or something some guy placing cones in a parking lot at the site said about not getting paid by their sub contractor who is a sub for another sub of Bechtel, into PROOF that the project will stop. They want it to fail so bad that any type of news that fits their narrative turns into that outcome. Let's take a step back further from just the Intel plant construction. The EPA has marching orders from the higher ups to allow packaged sewer plants to be used in the county to keep development from being hindered by the lack of sewer systems in the area. This is almost unheard of at this scale and is also an indicator of just how serious this ENTIRE project is. Someone upset that the farmland, that they didn't own, and liked driving by every on the way to work is now a construction site can piss and moan all they want on Facebook, but it's not going to change anything at all. This is a national security issue and is getting the backing that comes along with that.
March 12, 20241 yr I can't see why someone would want it to fail other than it's "too close to Columbus" and should instead be in Adams County for some reason.
March 12, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, GCrites said: I can't see why someone would want it to fail other than it's "too close to Columbus" and should instead be in Adams County for some reason. Around here (here being the Intel site) people LOVE to cosplay being a Dutton from Yellowstone. That and a lot of ignorant political baggage from folks. Edited March 12, 20241 yr by Airsup
March 13, 20241 yr 21 hours ago, Airsup said: I believe they've already designated this site for military chip production, too. The social media outage moan pages love to paint a picture of any type of delay, or something some guy placing cones in a parking lot at the site said about not getting paid by their sub contractor who is a sub for another sub of Bechtel, into PROOF that the project will stop. They want it to fail so bad that any type of news that fits their narrative turns into that outcome. Let's take a step back further from just the Intel plant construction. The EPA has marching orders from the higher ups to allow packaged sewer plants to be used in the county to keep development from being hindered by the lack of sewer systems in the area. This is almost unheard of at this scale and is also an indicator of just how serious this ENTIRE project is. Someone upset that the farmland, that they didn't own, and liked driving by every on the way to work is now a construction site can piss and moan all they want on Facebook, but it's not going to change anything at all. This is a national security issue and is getting the backing that comes along with that. Pentagon said to end plan for $2.5B Intel grant
March 13, 20241 yr 41 minutes ago, Kriegs said: Pentagon said to end plan for $2.5B Intel grant It's been reported that the Commerce Department will make up for the shortfall created by this.
March 13, 20241 yr "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 13, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, ColDayMan said: I can't tell if you're intending that gif literally as the caption or in the true sense of the P&R plot, where a bigger crisis is brewing in the background...
March 13, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, Miami-Erie said: It's been reported that the Commerce Department will make up for the shortfall created by this. Some department or budgetary item buried in places is going to take care of it. The DoD isn't going to leave the majority of chips needed for military hardware and weapons system being made by TSMC in Taiwan, or by anyone, anywhere not onshore. Some will, for sure, but the critical majority needed to conduct war will be domestic. Edited March 13, 20241 yr by Airsup
March 13, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, PizzaScissors said: I can't tell if you're intending that gif literally as the caption or in the true sense of the P&R plot, where a bigger crisis is brewing in the background... "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 14, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, Airsup said: Some department or budgetary item buried in places is going to take care of it. The DoD isn't going to leave the majority of chips needed for military hardware and weapons system being made by TSMC in Taiwan, or by anyone, anywhere not onshore. Some will, for sure, but the critical majority needed to conduct war will be domestic. TSMC has fabs over here and builds a much better product than Intel.
March 15, 20241 yr https://www.reuters.com/technology/biden-announce-intel-chips-grant-arizona-next-week-sources-2024-03-14/ Intel grant announcement from Commerce coming next week. I know there may be some nervous energy about the $2.5 pulled by Pentagon, but keep in mind, Intel's minimum plan was the fab they're building now. The big plan, contingent on the CHIPS Act money is multiple more fabs. Intel is a nearly 60-year old company. They invented the integrated chip. They also currently make what (according to some in the industry) is the best AI chip out there. https://analyticsindiamag.com/stability-ai-claims-intel-gaudi-2-is-faster-than-nvidia-h100/ So I think we don't need to worry about whether the Intel fab is going to get built. Although if you want to spend time worrying about whether the ultimate number of fabs is 3, or 4, or 5, or 6, then okay, that's probably up in the air.
March 15, 20241 yr A little more on that^... President Biden to announce Intel chips grants next week "President Joe Biden and Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo plan to unveil next week in Arizona a multi-billion-dollar award for Intel to expand its chip production in the United States, two people familiar with the matter said on Thursday. Intel's award, a mix of grants and loans, will be the most significant to be rolled out so far from the 2022 CHIPS and Science Act, America's bid to boost domestic semiconductor output with $52.7 billion in funding, including $39 billion in subsidies for semiconductor production and $11 billion for R&D." https://m.economictimes.com/tech/technology/joe-biden-to-announce-intel-chips-grant-in-arizona-next-week/articleshow/108510528.cms Edited March 15, 20241 yr by Luvcbus
March 15, 20241 yr Statewide Impact of Ohio Intel Project Evident in Initial Progress Report A report released today outlines Intel Corporation’s progress toward its two new semiconductor manufacturing facilities in Licking County, which continue to move forward with far-reaching impacts across the state. "The report, prepared by Intel and submitted to the Ohio Department of Development, shows that the company has spent approximately $1.5 billion through Dec. 31, 2023. With an additional $3 billion contractually committed, this brings the total committed investment by Intel in Ohio to $4.5 billion to date. Intel’s Ohio supplier footprint has grown from approximately 150 Ohio suppliers when the project investment was announced to more than 350 current Ohio suppliers across 47 Ohio counties. In addition to the semiconductor manufacturing facilities, Intel has been moving forward with design and engineering plans for its office building, water treatment and reclamation facility, and an air separation unit on site. Announced in January 2022, the project is the largest single private sector company investment in Ohio’s history and is expected to create 3,000 direct Intel jobs, $405 million in annual payroll, and more than $20 billion in fixed asset investment by Dec. 31, 2028. It’s also estimated that Intel’s investment will generate more than 20,000 jobs across the state and add $2.8 billion to Ohio’s annual gross state product." https://www.sciotopost.com/statewide-impact-of-ohio-intel-projectevident-in-initial-progress-report/
March 16, 20241 yr 17 hours ago, Luvcbus said: A little more on that^... President Biden to announce Intel chips grants next week "President Joe Biden and Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo plan to unveil next week in Arizona a multi-billion-dollar award for Intel to expand its chip production in the United States, two people familiar with the matter said on Thursday. Intel's award, a mix of grants and loans, will be the most significant to be rolled out so far from the 2022 CHIPS and Science Act, America's bid to boost domestic semiconductor output with $52.7 billion in funding, including $39 billion in subsidies for semiconductor production and $11 billion for R&D." https://m.economictimes.com/tech/technology/joe-biden-to-announce-intel-chips-grant-in-arizona-next-week/articleshow/108510528.cms Doubt and worry drives the clicks though! We will still be seeing articles like "will this ever get finished?" and "was this good for Ohio?" etc. etc. for at least a few more years. And then if they do keep building we will get, "if Intel can't build 768 fabs here then it's a failure". The media will never be pleased because "construction project is on time and doing great" doesn't generate as much engagement.
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