March 16, 20241 yr I saw an old TV news segment from 1985 when the first wave of skyscraper construction was finished Downtown and the news was like "All done! Everybody's getting laid off! What are we going to do now?" I'll tell you what you're going to do now -- build three times more skyscrapers in only 4 years!
March 16, 20241 yr On 3/12/2024 at 11:51 AM, Airsup said: I believe they've already designated this site for military chip production, too. ...except people won't know they're making weapons when they're making weapons: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0162044/plotsummary/?ref_=tt_ov_pl I work at a place that builds web servers - ostensibly for AWS - but really there's no telling who the customer is since there is no "paperwork" to go along with anything. The crap's all so hi-end that I have no doubt the US military is ordering some of this stuff. Every single part is traceable but you don't know who the end user is going to be, and conspiracy time even if it sez it's going to Amazon Web Services that might be a front. What's hilarious is that the guys still make the same sort of bone-headed mistakes (putting $1+ million crated servers on the wrong truck, running over $140,000 boxes of 18TB hard drives, etc.) as any ordinary place. Also, we get some of the *the exact same* parts from both China and Taiwan. They have the exact same usability in the end product and are stored in the same bins in the warehouse but specific customers order one or the other, and the barcoding prevents them from being picked or used interchangeably. You can visually see the difference in the boxes since there must be different rice/wood pulp in Taiwan as opposed to China. I have no idea why they keep both in the same bins.
March 16, 20241 yr IT is actually a very big industry in D.C. because ALL web traffic goes through it.
March 16, 20241 yr 6 hours ago, TIm said: Doubt and worry drives the clicks though! We will still be seeing articles like "will this ever get finished?" and "was this good for Ohio?" etc. etc. for at least a few more years. And then if they do keep building we will get, "if Intel can't build 768 fabs here then it's a failure". The media will never be pleased because "construction project is on time and doing great" doesn't generate as much engagement. Actually, I didn’t see any doubt or worry in the previous two linked articles from Scioto Post and Economic Times. Both articles were straight ahead, facts based reporting with no negativity. Did you read them?
March 18, 20241 yr Intel confirms delay, details progress on New Albany semiconductor factories Intel Corp. confirmed that its semiconductor manufacturing plants in New Albany will be completed later than initially anticipated, according to a new report that also outlines the progress the company has made on the $20 billion project. The report, prepared by Intel and submitted to the Ohio Department of Development, shows the two facilities are expected to finish construction between 2026 and 2027 and become operational between 2027 and 2028. Intel originally projected those factories would be completed in 2025. The updated timeline is in line with earlier reports of a construction delay. At the time, an Intel spokeswoman said the company "will not meet the aggressive 2025 production goal that we anticipated," but did not provide an expected completion date. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/03/18/intel-new-albany-ohio-semiconductor-project-update.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 19, 20241 yr I pray this is not a "where there's smoke, there's fire" type of situation. Seems like all we get is more and more and more delays from this. From 25' to 28' is significant delays.
March 19, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, OhioFinest said: I pray this is not a "where there's smoke, there's fire" type of situation. Seems like all we get is more and more and more delays from this. From 25' to 28' is significant delays. 2025 always seemed like an insanely aggressive timeline. Kinda like having a 45 minute layover in an airport. It can be done but absolutely everything needs to go perfect for it to happen in that short window.
March 19, 20241 yr On 3/16/2024 at 11:57 AM, Lazarus said: conspiracy time even if it sez it's going to Amazon Web Services that might be a front Amazon has certain facilities that are designated as GovCloud where it provides cloud services to DOD, DOJ, Treasury, etc. I'm sure the government has some data centers that it manages itself (especially for military) but I'd bet that most of the government's cloud computing happens in facilities managed by the private sector.
March 20, 20241 yr Biden administration investing $8.5 billion in Intel's computer chip plants in Ohio, 3 other states "As Intel continues construction on its Ohio One facility in New Albany, President Joe Biden is set to announce the company has been offered nearly $20 billion in direct funding and loans. Biden is traveling to Chandler, Arizona, on Wednesday to visit Intel’s Ocotillo campus and announce the Department of Commerce has reached a preliminary agreement to award it with up to $8.5 billion in direct funding and eligibility for $11 billion in loans, which will come from the CHIPS and Science Act. The funding will support the construction and expansion of Intel facilities in Arizona, New Mexico, and Oregon, as well as the Ohio One facility under construction in New Albany. The package will also help establish a regional economic cluster in New Albany for chipmaking. It’s expected to create nearly 20,000 jobs: with 3,000 manufacturing, 7,000 construction and an estimated 10,000 indirect jobs." https://www.nbc4i.com/intel-in-ohio/president-biden-to-announce-billions-for-intel-how-it-will-impact-new-albany/
March 20, 20241 yr A little more on that^ from the Dispatch: Intel lands billions in federal CHIPS subsidies, loans to finance Ohio, U.S. expansion "Intel has landed $8.5 billion in federal subsidies and is eligible for up to $11 billion in loans to help the semiconductor giant finance its $100 billion building spree across the country, including its project in New Albany that will become a regional cluster for U.S. chipmaking, the Biden administration and Intel announced Wednesday morning. The grants and loans along with a 25% investment tax credit included in the legislation will help Intel with its $20 billion project in Licking County, where it is building two factories along with expansions in Arizona, New Mexico and Oregon. When the Intel project was announced for Licking County, the company anticipated starting production in 2025. Now it construction of both plants to be finished in 2026-27 and to become operational in 2027-2028. Gelsinger told reporters Tuesday night that the Ohio project remains on a track that the company indicated was possible when work began. "The factory is being built today," he said. "If you show up at the site, we're taking a field and turning into the most modern manufacturing location in the Intel network." The Biden administration has declared Columbus a workforce hub meant to train workers for the jobs in the region by such companies as Intel and Honda's electric battery plant with LG Energy in Jeffersonville, and Intel has previously announced a $100 million commitment to local and national higher education programs over the next decade." https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/manufacturing/2024/03/20/intel-gets-8-5-billion-chips-grant-to-help-new-albany-expansion/73028672007/
March 20, 20241 yr Interesting quote I ran across earlier: "Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger revealed the vision to reporters on Tuesday, detailing Intel’s aim to transform vacant fields near Columbus, Ohio, into what he described as the largest AI chip manufacturing site in the world by as early as 2027." https://www.telecomlead.com/semiconductor/intel-to-invest-100-bn-in-u-s-chip-manufacturing-expansion-115432
March 20, 20241 yr 33 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said: Interesting quote I ran across earlier: "Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger revealed the vision to reporters on Tuesday, detailing Intel’s aim to transform vacant fields near Columbus, Ohio, into what he described as the largest AI chip manufacturing site in the world by as early as 2027." https://www.telecomlead.com/semiconductor/intel-to-invest-100-bn-in-u-s-chip-manufacturing-expansion-115432 Happy to see that, I hope they actually can pull it off. I would guess a lot of that will depend on the election. If trump wins, I don’t see them getting anymore money to help build.
March 21, 20241 yr Intel awarded $19.5 billion in Chips Act incentives for Ohio, three other states The U.S. is awarding Intel with $8.5 billion in direct funding and up to $11 billion in loans through the federal Chips Act to support the company’s semiconductor advanced manufacturing and packaging facilities in New Albany and three other states. Intel Corp. at the same time announced its investment has increased to $28 billion from $20 billion in the first phase of its Ohio One fabrication complex. Once tax credits are considered, the incentive package for Intel (Nasdaq: INTC) could total more than $40 billion. The U.S. Department of Commerce said Wednesday it inked a nonbinding preliminary agreement for Intel's award. Besides the grants and loans, the company plans to claim the Department of the Treasury’s Investment Tax Credit of up to 25% on $100 billion in qualified investments, according to a news release. All told, Intel’s federal award package could support 30,000 new direct jobs, including 3,000 manufacturing and 7,000 construction jobs in Ohio. The two New Albany fabs are expected to finish construction between 2026 and 2027 and become operational between 2027 and 2028, Intel recently reported to the Ohio Department of Development. This $28 billion first phase could grow to $100 billion, sped by federal aid, the company has said. “Today is a defining moment for the U.S. and Intel as we work to power the next great chapter of American semiconductor manufacturing innovation,” Pat Gelsinger, Intel’s CEO, said in a statement. “AI is supercharging the digital revolution and everything digital needs semiconductors. Chips Act support will help to ensure that Intel and the U.S. stay at the forefront of the AI era as we build a resilient and sustainable semiconductor supply chain to power our nation’s future.” More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/03/20/intel-chips-act-award.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 21, 20241 yr Intel's Ohio project's first phase upped to $28B upon Chips Act award Intel Corp. has increased the construction estimate for its Ohio One semiconductor fabrication complex under construction in New Albany to $28 billion, up from $20 billion when announced in January 2022. The fact sheet for the first phase with two fabs was updated Wednesday, the same day Intel was awarded $8.5 billion in grants and up to $11 billion in loans for projects in Ohio and three other states under the federal Chips and Science Act. Intel has updated capital expenditures based on "current projections," a five-year total of $100 billion for Ohio, Arizona, Oregon and New Mexico, a spokeswoman said via email. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/03/20/intel-new-albany-chips-investment-increase.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 21, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, ColDayMan said: Intel's Ohio project's first phase upped to $28B upon Chips Act award Intel Corp. has increased the construction estimate for its Ohio One semiconductor fabrication complex under construction in New Albany to $28 billion, up from $20 billion when announced in January 2022. The fact sheet for the first phase with two fabs was updated Wednesday, the same day Intel was awarded $8.5 billion in grants and up to $11 billion in loans for projects in Ohio and three other states under the federal Chips and Science Act. Intel has updated capital expenditures based on "current projections," a five-year total of $100 billion for Ohio, Arizona, Oregon and New Mexico, a spokeswoman said via email. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/03/20/intel-new-albany-chips-investment-increase.html That's one of the more detailed photo's I've seen from the project. Edited March 21, 20241 yr by John7165
March 21, 20241 yr Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger says he expects to build the supply chain for AI chips and produce them at Ohio One... "Gelsinger called the package of grants and other supports for U.S. chipmakers “the most important piece of industrial policy since World War II,” saying that the program was necessary if the United States is to compete with international rivals. Gelsinger said that the timeline for Intel’s new Ohio factory is still “within the range,” after a report from the company to Ohio officials this month showed the date for the facility to become operational had slipped from an early estimate of 2025 to 2027 or later. "We’ve gone through a pretty harsh economic cycle, and the semiconductor industry has been hit a bit harder,” he said. “If you go to Columbus … we have thousands of construction workers on the site today.” Gelsinger said he’s had “many conversations” with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman about building up the supply chain for AI chips and that he expects to produce them at Intel’s Ohio facility. Anna Makanju, OpenAI’s vice president of global affairs, said that even with the Biden administration’s investments in the sector, there still may be a continued global chips shortage, as companies around the world scramble for them to power advanced AI systems. “The demand is really going to skyrocket,” she said, “and it’s not clear that the supply is going to meet it.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/03/21/intel-gelsinger-biden-chips/
March 22, 20241 yr A few interesting tidbits in an article in the Ohio Capital Journal... U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown announces almost $20 billion for Intel fabs in Ohio, around U.S. "During a call with reporters Wednesday, U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown stressed the project’s impact on skilled trades workers in the state. “There’s never been a construction project like this in the Midwest,” Brown said, “maybe in the country — work for 7,000 union workers in the skilled trades over 10 years, 3,000 workers in Intel’s fabs.” Ohio Chamber of Commerce President Steve Stivers said the CHIPS Act’s passage may be the beginning of a virtuous cycle. “We’ve heard a lot more from other manufacturing companies that want to re-shore their manufacturing as a result of the fact that we’re going to have chips made in Ohio,” he said. “It’s a big deal.” To Mike Knisley, secretary-treasurer for the Ohio Building and Construction Trades Council, the project is worth the wait. He reiterated an argument he’s made before, that Intel’s fabs will establish an employment pipeline spanning multiple generations. Knisley also argued the sheer scope of the project can be hard to fathom. “45 million work hours just on the first phase alone,” he said, “That is gold.” Brown downplayed the delays, arguing that, for projects as big the new microchip facility, setbacks are part of the bargain. “We always knew this wasn’t going to just be quick and easy,” he said, “that this was always going to be a challenge. This is the most complicated, complex building project that anybody’s ever done in Ohio.” Full article found here: https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2024/03/22/u-s-sen-sherrod-brown-announces-almost-20-billion-for-intel-fabs-in-ohio-around-u-s/ Edited March 22, 20241 yr by Luvcbus
March 23, 20241 yr how tsmc trains chipmakers in this booming business — Everyone wants the latest chips. That’s causing a huge headache for the world’s biggest supplier By Eric Cheung, Will Ripley and John Mees, CNN 5 minute read March 22, 2024 Taichung, TaiwanCNN — Until just a few years ago, the world’s largest chipmaker had a simple answer to training new recruits — a buddy system that paired them up with senior engineers tasked with showing them the ropes. All that changed three years ago, when a global chip shortage and rising geopolitical tension turbocharged growth at TSMC. It needed to create an intensive training program to get tens of thousands of new recruits to work quickly. more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/22/tech/taiwan-tsmc-talent-shortage-training-center-intl-hnk/index.html
March 24, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, mrnyc said: how tsmc trains chipmakers in this booming business — Everyone wants the latest chips. That’s causing a huge headache for the world’s biggest supplier By Eric Cheung, Will Ripley and John Mees, CNN 5 minute read March 22, 2024 Taichung, TaiwanCNN — Until just a few years ago, the world’s largest chipmaker had a simple answer to training new recruits — a buddy system that paired them up with senior engineers tasked with showing them the ropes. All that changed three years ago, when a global chip shortage and rising geopolitical tension turbocharged growth at TSMC. It needed to create an intensive training program to get tens of thousands of new recruits to work quickly. more: https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/22/tech/taiwan-tsmc-talent-shortage-training-center-intl-hnk/index.html I will only ever use TSMC chips. Don't trust any of the thermonuclear reactors Intel builds. TSMC is a very innovative company - they get it done.
March 24, 20241 yr I've noticed that people who think about chip quality are often gloom and doom about Intel. I haven't really thought about chips/processors since the AMD vs. Intel days besides dealing with really old ICs from the '80s as far as repairing video game systems and buying 64K chips to burn PROMs for old cars. The average person thinks about chip brands little if at all. Can that really bring down this whole Intel project?
March 24, 20241 yr Now that CHIPS funding has been officially secured, we're starting to get a few more details on some of Intel's plans... Intel is planning a sprawling U.S. expansion with 'the largest AI chip manufacturing site in the world' "American semiconductor maker Intel wants to build “the largest AI chip manufacturing site in the world,” in a new five-year, $100 billion U.S. expansion plan. Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger told reporters this week that the chipmaker is focused on building the manufacturing site on empty land near Columbus, Ohio, one of the four states the company is investing in. Gelsinger said about 30% of the $100-billion plan will be spent on construction costs such as labor and infrastructure. The remaining will go towards buying chipmaking tools from firms such as ASML, Tokyo Electron, Applied Materials and KLA, among others. Those tools will help bring the Ohio site online by 2027 or 2028. Beyond grants and loans, Intel plans to make most of the purchases from its existing cash flows. The company’s investment into U.S. semiconductor factories is expected to create around 80,000 jobs, Gelsinger said, including company and construction jobs, and indirect jobs for suppliers and adjacent industries." https://www.wionews.com/business-economy/intel-embarks-on-100-bn-investment-in-us-chip-manufacturing-expansion-702537 Edited March 24, 20241 yr by Luvcbus
March 24, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, GCrites said: I've noticed that people who think about chip quality are often gloom and doom about Intel. I haven't really thought about chips/processors since the AMD vs. Intel days besides dealing with really old ICs from the '80s as far as repairing video game systems and buying 64K chips to burn PROMs for old cars. The average person thinks about chip brands little if at all. Can that really bring down this whole Intel project? When you're a data center, where it costs $$$$$$ to keep everything cool, and you want the most advanced tech available for your buck, it matters. Intel is 2-3 years behind TSMC. TSMC's clients include AI giant NVIDIA (which is the most advanced AI company in the space, NOT Intel - I don't know how a company as divided as Intel could ever beat AMD's coordinated engineering attempts to even scrape the bottom of NVIDIA's software stack), AMD, and Apple (which LEFT Intel due to a bad product that lacked performance and was horrible for thermals in their devices). AMD almost rules the consumer PC space and is the gold standard for almost all laptops due to their chip-to-chip integration, 3D stacking, and insanely good thermals due to operating on a smaller (5 or 3nm process), and the remaining GPU segment is dominated by NVIDIA. As far as data centers, apart from aging Xenon CPUs, AMD is once again the compute powerhouse with NVIVIDA GPUs being the only option I've seen for any AI, deep learning, and graphical instances. Intel has a bunch of subpar engineers too busy fighting over who can climb the ladder than working as a team and building a compelling product. This project and the others are a bailout at the taxpayers' expense. Which is unnecessary - given how AMD under the right leadership brought themselves back from the brink of bankruptcy to dominate the market. I'm not mad about the jobs, the opportunity, or the fabs. My issue is and will remain with Intel's leadership and the federal government's mistake in frivolously subsidizing a project like this to bail out a company that dug its own grave. Also, as much of a proud American as I am, the claim about the DOD using American products is laughable. We've demonstrated we're really great at building crap (i.e. Boeing - which has been an ongoing fiasco), and our cars are bested by Japanese and German engineers every day of the week. I'd use Taiwanese chips any day of the week if they're better - they're not stopping us from piecing apart those chips to ensure they're secure.
March 24, 20241 yr On 3/19/2024 at 9:23 AM, taestell said: Amazon has certain facilities that are designated as GovCloud where it provides cloud services to DOD, DOJ, Treasury, etc. I'm sure the government has some data centers that it manages itself (especially for military) but I'd bet that most of the government's cloud computing happens in facilities managed by the private sector. I'm not claiming to be an expert but I suspect that some of the desire to get chip manufacturing in the United States stems from the expense to insure hi-dollar overseas cargo flights. Within the lower 48, there is typically a limit to how much an insurer will insure on any particular truck. This sum is around $10-15 million. Dozens of crated servers could fit on a single 53-foot trailer but that never happens because of the insurance limit. Instead, any large movement of hi-end cloud servers is split between several semi trailers. My guess - and again I don't know this for certain - is that high-dollar stuff that is shipped on DHL aircraft and other international carriers is not insured. This of course represents a huge financial and time risk (in the event of damage) for manufacturers and end-users. The argument for getting chip and other component manufacturing back in the United States might be, in part, a way to get the entire supply chain insured.
March 25, 20241 yr On 9/6/2023 at 2:30 PM, wpcc88 said: It’s called Big Carl, google it. I believe it’s supposed to be on site Q1 2024. Looks like it might be the Liebherr LR 13000 instead of Big Carl... "The two new fabs, which Evers called a twin-pack fab, will be essentially copied in Ohio with two key differences: more fabs and a better layout. ...one of the largest mobile land cranes in the world is on the job in Ocotillo, the Liebherr LR 13000. It lifts roof trusses that were assembled on the ground into the air several stories high, and will be on its way to build the new Ohio campus." https://www.aztechcouncil.org/intels-biggest-fab-is-coming-to-ohio-and-arizona-is-the-blueprint/ https://www.liebherr.com/en/usa/products/mobile-and-crawler-cranes/crawler-cranes/lr-crawler-cranes/lr-13000.html
March 25, 20241 yr On 3/23/2024 at 8:49 PM, GCrites said: I've noticed that people who think about chip quality are often gloom and doom about Intel. I haven't really thought about chips/processors since the AMD vs. Intel days besides dealing with really old ICs from the '80s as far as repairing video game systems and buying 64K chips to burn PROMs for old cars. The average person thinks about chip brands little if at all. Can that really bring down this whole Intel project? I think it's one of those situations where there is a very small minority of very outspoken people against these chips and this development.
March 26, 20241 yr Intel Gets More Federal Funding for Ohio Production Plants Nearly $20 billion in federal grants and loans is on its way to Intel to support work on semiconductor fabs in Ohio and around the country. The funding is part of the CHIPS Act, signed into law by President Joe Biden in 2022. Ohio’s New Albany-area Intel facility currently under construction stands to benefit substantially. During a call with reporters Wednesday, U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown took a victory lap, stressing the project’s impact on skilled trades workers in the state. “There’s never been a construction project like this in the Midwest,” Brown said, “maybe in the country — work for 7,000 union workers in the skilled trades over 10 years, 3,000 workers in Intel’s fabs.” More below: https://columbusunderground.com/intel-gets-more-federal-funding-for-ohio-production-plants-ocj1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 26, 20241 yr Had an extra hour or so yesterday in New Albany, so I checked as many Intel related infrastructure projects as I could. *All of the streets around the site are being rebuilt and widened. They're all now over half way complete. Crews are now paving the two lanes on the eastern half of Mink St, these lanes will soon carry northbound traffic from 161 More roundabouts are also being built. This one, on Mink St, will eventually mark the southern border of the Intel site. This will connect Mink to Clover Valley Other intersections around the site are getting traditional traffic lights, like this one on Green Chapel near the northwestern corner of site Another new intersection at Clover Valley and Harrison Rd is still under construction. Vertical construction began yesterday on the new water tower being built adjacent to the Intel site, just west of Clover Valley Rd. (Kind of hard to see but I couldn't get any closer.) & A few more random ones of the site as I passed by
March 27, 20241 yr Here's what Intel's extra state tax breaks are costing so far Intel Corp.'s $2.1 billion Ohio incentive package is growing by at least $242 million in the first three years of tax exemptions state lawmakers added to the deal. State budget officials had projected "hundreds of millions" when the state's two-year capital budget added exemptions that apply to the chipmaker and its suppliers. The two tax breaks are for sales and use tax related to construction and equipment at the New Albany site, and the commercial activity tax for certain equipment purchases. The California chipmaker is spending $28 billion to build the first two semiconductor fabrication factories in Licking County, which could grow to eight fabs. The first phase is expected to create 7,000 construction jobs and 3,000 permanent Intel jobs. Under updated projections from the Ohio Department of Taxation, the sales and use tax exemption is expected to cost $76.7 million in the fiscal year that ended June 30, $86.2 million this fiscal year and $64.1 million in FY25. Fiscal 2025 is the first expected year of the CAT impact, projected at $14.8 million. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/03/27/intel-ohio-sales-tax-cat-exemptions.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 28, 20241 yr First “super load” headed to Intel site scheduled to begin trip on April 3rd "The fourth of nearly two dozen “super loads” is scheduled to begin the journey north from Adams County on April 3rd with delivery on April 9th. This will be the first load to head to New Albany and the new $28 billion Intel plant in Licking County. The schedule includes a pause for the solar eclipse which is expected to bring a significant increase in traffic to the state of Ohio. The convoy will stop in West Portsmouth, Chillicothe, Rickenbacker, and Pickerington or Pataskala before delivery. This load, an air processor, weighs 378,400 pounds, is 19’3” tall, 20’ wide, and 128.5’ long." https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/OHDOT/bulletins/392eda2
March 29, 20241 yr Time for Intel to cash in its chips Long-promised federal funds are finally flowing to the tech giant as it builds up its now $28 billion Central Ohio campus. "By the end of 2023, construction crews had poured 32,000 cubic yards of concrete – enough to fill two stories of the Rhodes Tower – to build just the basement of Intel Corp.’s two semiconductor factories in New Albany. After some initial delays, Intel’s projects in Ohio and three other states should accelerate now that the chipmaker has a deal for $8.5 billion of federal grants, as much as $11 billion in loans, and tens of billions more in tax breaks. The U.S. Department of Commerce announced the non-binding preliminary agreement March 20, the fourth and largest award to date from the 2022 Chips and Science Act. "That field of dreams (in Ohio) is now an extraordinary construction site coming to life before your very eyes,” Gelsinger said at a livestream event from the company’s suburban Phoenix campus to celebrate the Chips Act announcement. Intel has spent $4.5 billion so far on construction in New Albany, Allen Thompson, Intel vice president of government relations for the U.S. and Canada, said in a teleconference with reporters and Ohio officials after the announcement." https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/03/28/intel-chips-act-federal-funding-ohio-semiconductor.html
March 29, 20241 yr I wonder what Intels thoughts are on our recent 6000% increase in tornado frequency lol.
April 7, 20241 yr The next super load should start heading north from the Ohio River Wednesday April 10th. Here's there latest with routing from the state. EDIT: It looks like this April 10th information is the Franklin Co. routing. https://www.transportation.ohio.gov/about-us/traffic-advisories/district-9/superload?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery Edited April 7, 20241 yr by John7165
April 10, 20241 yr First superload heading to Intel expected to arrive today "The fourth of nearly two dozen super loads moving across Ohio roadways will become the first to arrive at Intel in New Albany on Wednesday. The super load left from a dock on the Ohio River near Manchester in Adams County last week. This will be the first to arrive at Intel’s Ohio One plant, with the first three arriving at the Freepoint Eco-Systems recycling facility near Hebron. This load carries an air processor, weighs 378,400 pounds, and is over 19 feet tall, 20 feet wide and 128 feet long." https://www.nbc4i.com/intel-in-ohio/latest-super-load-on-the-move-when-intels-first-shipment-could-arrive/
April 11, 20241 yr A little update on when to expect the next three superloads on local roadways... LOAD 5 TO HEBRON Cargo: Kiln Height: 20’8” Width: 18’ Length: 176’2” Weight: 549,000 pounds • April 11: Load 5 will depart from the dock Thursday, April 11 and will travel from Manchester to Ross County Fairgrounds • April 12: Ross County Fairgrounds to Rickenbacker • April 13: No moves • April 14: Rickenbacker to Hebron for delivery LOADS 6 & 7 TO INTEL SITE IN NEW ALBANY Cargo: Hex/Cold Box (Air Processor) Height: 19’3” Width: 20’ Length: 128’ Weight: 378,400 pounds Loads 6 and 7 will depart from the dock the week of April 15. Loads 6 and 7 are intended to move to Rickenbacker and through Columbus two days in a row. • April 15: Load 6 moves from the dock to Ross County Fairgrounds • April 16: Load 6 travels from Ross County Fairgrounds to Rickenbacker • April 17: No moves • April 18: Load 7 moves from the dock to Ross County Fairgrounds • April 19: Load 7 travels from Ross County Fairgrounds to Rickenbacker • April 20: Load 6 travels from Rickenbacker to New Albany for delivery • April 21: Load 7 travels from Rickenbacker to New Albany for delivery https://siliconheartland.newalbanyohio.org/2024/04/10/upcoming-superload-deliveries/
April 16, 20241 yr Got a few random ones at Intel today- First few are from various spots on Green Chapel Rd- along the northern border of the site Couple from the western edge of the site- along Clover Valley Rd New water tower rising adjacent to the site Infrastructure projects continue seemingly everywhere in the area, like this intersection being rebuilt on the northwest corner of the site
April 19, 20241 yr Was recently in Chandler and the Ocotillo site is really impressive in person when I was running along Dobson. Felt massive. It's in a surprising area, extremely close to fairly dense single-family home residential. But the streetscaping and cleanliness of the area was stellar (at least when I was there in March). I have family that have lived in Chandler for decades, and the development and money flowing into the area are massive. One can only hope something similar or better for Central Ohio; I think it's almost a given when you look at the sheer amount of development and buildup that must be done.
April 24, 20241 yr New drone video from Intel - Couldn't get it to embed but here's the link https://www.dispatch.com/videos/news/2024/04/23/drone-views-of-massive-intel-chip-plant-being-built-in-new-albany-oh/73427671007/
April 24, 20241 yr Interesting to see how TSMC is struggling with their new fab in Arizona: Some 2,200 employees now work at TSMC’s Arizona plant, with about half of them deployed from Taiwan. While tension at the plant simmers, TSMC has been ramping up its investments, recently securing billions of dollars in grants and loans from the U.S. government. Whether or not the plant succeeds in making cutting-edge chips with the same speed, efficiency, and profitability as facilities in Asia remains to be seen, with many skeptical about a U.S. workforce under TSMC’s army-like command system. “[The company] tried to make Arizona Taiwanese,” G. Dan Hutcheson, a semiconductor industry analyst at the research firm TechInsights, told Rest of World. “And it’s just not going to work.” [...] In one department, managers sometimes applied what they called “stress tests” by announcing assignments due the same day or week, to make sure the Americans were able to meet tight deadlines and sacrifice personal time like Taiwanese workers, two engineers told Rest of World. Managers shamed American workers in front of their peers, sometimes by suggesting they quit engineering, one employee said. It seems to mainly be a culture clash, so Intel's new fab might not have the same issues as TSMC's.
April 24, 20241 yr ^^That site is mind bogglingly vast. The construction administration staff has to be huge.
April 24, 20241 yr 49 minutes ago, taestell said: Interesting to see how TSMC is struggling with their new fab in Arizona: Some 2,200 employees now work at TSMC’s Arizona plant, with about half of them deployed from Taiwan. While tension at the plant simmers, TSMC has been ramping up its investments, recently securing billions of dollars in grants and loans from the U.S. government. Whether or not the plant succeeds in making cutting-edge chips with the same speed, efficiency, and profitability as facilities in Asia remains to be seen, with many skeptical about a U.S. workforce under TSMC’s army-like command system. “[The company] tried to make Arizona Taiwanese,” G. Dan Hutcheson, a semiconductor industry analyst at the research firm TechInsights, told Rest of World. “And it’s just not going to work.” [...] In one department, managers sometimes applied what they called “stress tests” by announcing assignments due the same day or week, to make sure the Americans were able to meet tight deadlines and sacrifice personal time like Taiwanese workers, two engineers told Rest of World. Managers shamed American workers in front of their peers, sometimes by suggesting they quit engineering, one employee said. It seems to mainly be a culture clash, so Intel's new fab might not have the same issues as TSMC's. It's always so interesting to see different working culture collide. Sometimes it goes well and sometimes it's awful. I did some work for a Spanish company that operates in Cincinnati making corrugate products and a lot of top management was from Spain and everyone else was Ohio people wearing Bengals gear. The Spanish people were overly passionate to the point of it causing issues while the Ohio people just wanted to work and get paid. And then the Spanish folks would get into these passionate discussions, come up with a bunch of ideas and then go on vacation for 5 weeks and nothing ever happened with anything they said previously.
April 26, 20241 yr Intel, Ohio partner on $1 million Dillon wetland restoration project The Ohio Department of Natural Resources, and Intel’s Executive Vice President met today to announce a new H2Ohio partnership. The Officials met at Dillon State Park to discuss the partnership that will help protect and improve water quality in the Licking Watershed. The Licking River project will help to restore 90 acres of retired farmland along the Licking River. Once it’s restored, the floodplain wetland will capture phosphorus, nitrogen, and sediment in flood waters and prevent them from contaminating the Licking River. The ODNR projects for this project begin this summer and wrap up by the fall. https://cwcolumbus.com/newsletters/dewine-intel-announce-commitment-to-water-quality-amid-community-development-concerns-central-columbus-ohio Edited April 26, 20241 yr by Luvcbus
April 26, 20241 yr Another superload headed to Intel will be on area roadways today and Sunday... LOAD 8 TO NEW ALBANY Cargo: Hex/Cold Box (Air Processor) Height: 19’3” Width: 20’ Length: 128’ Weight: 378,400 pounds • April 25: Load 8 moves from the dock to Ross County Fairgrounds • April 26: Load 8 travels from Ross County Fairgrounds to Rickenbacker • April 27: No moves • April 28: Load 8 travels from Rickenbacker to New Albany for delivery https://siliconheartland.newalbanyohio.org/2024/04/10/upcoming-superload-deliveries/
April 26, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, Luvcbus said: Another superload headed to Intel will be on area roadways today and Sunday... LOAD 8 TO NEW ALBANY Cargo: Hex/Cold Box (Air Processor) Height: 19’3” Width: 20’ Length: 128’ Weight: 378,400 pounds • April 25: Load 8 moves from the dock to Ross County Fairgrounds • April 26: Load 8 travels from Ross County Fairgrounds to Rickenbacker • April 27: No moves • April 28: Load 8 travels from Rickenbacker to New Albany for delivery https://siliconheartland.newalbanyohio.org/2024/04/10/upcoming-superload-deliveries/ I wonder if these "super loads" are going to be for both fabs or just one? Imagine how many of these loads will be required if eight fabs are built?
April 26, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Luvcbus said: Intel, Ohio partner on $1 million Dillon wetland restoration project The Ohio Department of Natural Resources, and Intel’s Executive Vice President met today to announce a new H2Ohio partnership. The Officials met at Dillon State Park to discuss the partnership that will help protect and improve water quality in the Licking Watershed. The Licking River project will help to restore 90 acres of retired farmland along the Licking River. Once it’s restored, the floodplain wetland will capture phosphorus, nitrogen, and sediment in flood waters and prevent them from contaminating the Licking River. The ODNR projects for this project begin this summer and wrap up by the fall. https://cwcolumbus.com/newsletters/dewine-intel-announce-commitment-to-water-quality-amid-community-development-concerns-central-columbus-ohio Love this, I know this is mostly political show, but restoring any land back to wetlands is a great thing. I get that ohio has a lot of farms, but this area was pretty much all wetlands at one point.
April 26, 20241 yr Anyone else seriously concerned this project will never be finished due to Intel's terrible stock and company performance? Pat Gelsinger's seat as CEO must be getting very hot as investors lose patience.
April 27, 20241 yr Intel, Honda and others discuss Ohio's manufacturing future at our Columbus Opportunity Summit Intel's future plans: "Five years from now, Intel could already be prepping for an expansion. The company's initial semiconductor "fab" is on track to be completed by 2026 or 2027, with up to a year of equipment installation and certification after that. Production could begin in 2027 or 2028. “We’ve committed to building first two (fabs), but Keyvan and our CEO Pat Gelsinger have not been shy. We have 1,000 acres on our site in New Albany. The full build out for the company can accommodate eight fabs or more. We're currently building the fifth and sixth in Arizona. I think we have 730 acres there.” He also spoke at Thursday's event, saying the Ohio project is not just critical for the state and Intel, but the country as a whole as it tries to regain a leadership position in semiconductor manufacturing. Hoggatt said the U.S. once produced 40% of the world’s chips. It now makes 11% “I've had the opportunity to go out (to Arizona) a couple times to see the scale,” he said. “It gets me excited about the potential of what Ohio could look like long term with the amount of land we have available for potential future expansions.” https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/04/25/intel-honda-amgen-american-nitrile-ohio-manufactur.html
April 29, 20241 yr The ninth superload headed to Central Ohio will be the largest yet. This load, a Liquid Oxygen (LOX) Tank nearly 200 ft long, will be on area roadways Friday and Saturday as it makes its way to Intel... LOAD 9 TO NEW ALBANY Cargo: Tank — LOX Height: 19’2” Width: 16’3” Length: 197’ Weight: 436,410 pounds • May 2: Load 9 moves from the dock to Ross County Fairgrounds • May 3: Load 9 travels from Ross County Fairgrounds to Rickenbacker • May 4: Load 9 travels from Rickenbacker to New Albany for delivery https://siliconheartland.newalbanyohio.org/2024/04/10/upcoming-superload-deliveries/
April 29, 20241 yr Cool animated video from Intel showing their vision of what the fab campus will look like in New Albany.
April 29, 20241 yr Author 1 hour ago, John7165 said: Cool animated video from Intel showing their vision of what the fab campus will look like in New Albany. All those Intel employees walking around better get back to work!
April 29, 20241 yr 59 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: All those Intel employees walking around better get back to work! Yeah they must plan on having a lot of middle management if they think people are going to have walks and nothing to do
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