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Stumbled across this article earlier.  According to it, Intel expects to be at the peak of the building phase on the first two fabs in about five months:

 

"According to the Ohio State Building and Construction Trades Council, the first phase of the Intel buildout will generate more than 45 million work hours for members of the building trades, with the vast majority of workers being from Ohio.

 

“We have an abundance of work right now,” she said. “Intel is expecting to have 6,000 to 7,000 people at the peak of the building phase, which will start in about five months.”

 

Full story here:

 

https://www.richlandsource.com/2024/08/05/tomorrows-talent-how-is-north-central-ohio-preparing-for-intel/

 

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    Good Afternoon UrbanOhio.  Long time visitor, first time poster.  Love the diverse conversation.  I work in the design field in New Albany and since this project has been announced, I figured Columbus

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1 hour ago, Luvcbus said:

 

Stumbled across this article earlier.  According to it, Intel expects to be at the peak of the building phase on the first two fabs in about five months:

 

"According to the Ohio State Building and Construction Trades Council, the first phase of the Intel buildout will generate more than 45 million work hours for members of the building trades, with the vast majority of workers being from Ohio.

 

“We have an abundance of work right now,” she said. “Intel is expecting to have 6,000 to 7,000 people at the peak of the building phase, which will start in about five months.”

 

Full story here:

 

https://www.richlandsource.com/2024/08/05/tomorrows-talent-how-is-north-central-ohio-preparing-for-intel/

 


makes perfect sense. Walls will be up. That means all of your interior trades will be flooding the site. 

 

Continuing to ramp up at Intel !

 

 

 

On 8/4/2024 at 9:09 AM, Luvcbus said:

 

 

 

AEP Ohio plans to build a new station called the Green Chapel Station that will serve the Intel area and will connect to AEP Ohio's existing transmission network. AEP Ohio said it will build two new transmission lines with a design that allows more power to be delivered."

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/energy-resource/2024/08/04/intel-aep-ohio-ask-state-to-sign-off-on-agreement-to-power-intel-site/74605232007/

 

"Will build" means all the towers have been installed, and for the last two weeks they've been running the lines. They appear nearly done. Not sure of the progress at the substation site. I only drive by on 62.

Haven't really been following this lately, but is this project still full steam ahead despite Intel's awful news with their 13th and 14th gen CPUs failing and needing to layoff ~15,000 employees globally? I was really worried about how this factory would be effected.

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8 minutes ago, Zyrokai said:

Haven't really been following this lately, but is this project still full steam ahead despite Intel's awful news with their 13th and 14th gen CPUs failing and needing to layoff ~15,000 employees globally? I was really worried about how this factory would be effected.

 

Full steam ahead:

 

https://www.axios.com/local/columbus/2024/08/02/intel-job-cuts-ohio-one-semiconductor-chip-plant-new-albany

 

On 8/7/2024 at 1:39 PM, CbusOrBust said:

Yes, Intel Foundry strategy -- which the Ohio fab represents -- is fundamental to the company's metamorphosis. The aim is to be able to provide manufacturing capabilities to all the other "fabless" chip designers: Nvidia, Apple, etc. Oh, and the Department of Defense wants a secure supply chain so domestic manufacturing will be prioritized.

 

 

3 hours ago, Lukateake said:

Yes, Intel Foundry strategy -- which the Ohio fab represents -- is fundamental to the company's metamorphosis. The aim is to be able to provide manufacturing capabilities to all the other "fabless" chip designers: Nvidia, Apple, etc. Oh, and the Department of Defense wants a secure supply chain so domestic manufacturing will be prioritized.

Apple dropped Intel because their chips were garbage. There's no way they'll let them touch making any more of them. Nvidia will always work with TSMC, and AMD is self-explanatory. Other than DOD, this fab has no client. And honestly, I trust TSMC more than Intel given its repetitive missteps and poor leadership. I'm a proud American through and through, but we are absolutely garbage at manufacturing chips ourselves.

6 minutes ago, columbus17 said:

Apple dropped Intel because their chips were garbage. There's no way they'll let them touch making any more of them. Nvidia will always work with TSMC, and AMD is self-explanatory. Other than DOD, this fab has no client. And honestly, I trust TSMC more than Intel given its repetitive missteps and poor leadership. I'm a proud American through and through, but we are absolutely garbage at manufacturing chips ourselves.

I did a quick, unbiased Google search of "Intel." Every article in the first 3 pages of the "news" section was abysmal press. This is a company dying in front of our eyes. They're getting sued on multiple fronts, slashing their workforce, and their stock is tanking. Gelsinger is a moron and should have been fired ages ago. The problem with Intel has been, and will be, bad leadership. No one knows their place like in other companies, and everyone, including their engineers, only care about fighting for the top-level, C-suite jobs. The focus isn't the product, and there's little to no real team effort in that mid-tier section of management. At this rate, I would be shocked if Intel exists in its current form by 2028. It's hurtling towards failure, and being left behind in the dust. All I can say is that TSMC is about to get a screaming new deal on a brand new fab, and they'll finally be able to quell their ever-growing capacity issues.

A bit of tangible progress above ground level. The large crane has hoisted about a dozen precast concrete floor slabs that will serve as the base of the clean room. Yes, it won't be long now until bunny-suited feet are walking on them! /sarcasm

 

 

 

LOAD 16 TO NEW ALBANY

 

The sixteenth of nearly two dozen “superloads” will depart the dock site in Adams County on Thursday, August 22. The convoy will head to New Albany to deliver the load to the site of the new Intel plant on Sunday, August 24.

 

Cargo: Tank

Height: 19’ 1”

Width: 16’ 1”

Length: 196’ 11”

Weight: 395,450 pounds

 

• August 22 (Day 1) – Dock in Manchester to Ross County Fairgrounds

 

• August 23 (Day 2) – Ross County Fairgrounds to Rickenbacker

 

• August 24 (Day 3) – Rickenbacker to Intel site in New Albany

 

https://siliconheartland.newalbanyohio.org/2024/07/01/upcoming-superload-deliveries/

 

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Intel brings "Big Bird" cranes to its Ohio One construction site

 

"The big red cranes at Intel’s construction are getting some company — even bigger cranes that Intel is calling the “Big Birds” because of their bright yellow color.

 

These two Big Birds, called LR 11350 crawler cranes, are almost built and ready for work. They will be used primarily to lift and place the 24’ x 24’ concrete floor pieces for the fabs. These types of cranes have a maximum radius of 538 feet (about the length of 1½ football fields), a load capacity of 3 million pounds and a maximum hoist height of 722 feet (taller than two Statues of Liberty). Because of the cranes’ height, Intel must get approval from the Federal Aviation Administration before using them.

 

These two cranes will be followed later this year and early next year with more large crawler cranes, which will lift the trusses to the top of the fab, and additional precast cranes."

 

https://siliconheartland.newalbanyohio.org/latest-news/

 

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On 8/27/2024 at 10:58 PM, Lukateake said:

 

 

I appreciate you braving the hostile and often ignorant 'Intel Johnstown" Facebook group to bring these videos to people in the area that don't fit into the narrow narrative that many in group likes to project. We enjoy them!

The plant is going to happen. If Intel were to declare bankruptcy tomorrow, the federal government would almost certainly make sure that some other U.S. company picked up the pieces and carried the torch. It's a matter of national security and pretty much as close to a sure thing as you ever get with developments.

On 9/4/2024 at 1:59 PM, TIm said:

Sensationalized journalism to get clicks. Full of "coulds, maybes and possiblys". Post something when there is actual real information and not speculation.

 

This is a forum, not a verified news page.   Speculation is how one knows what to keep an eye out for, to be ahead of the news.

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Ran across a small update on progress at Intel's Ohio One campus. According to the article, there are now more than 2,000 construction workers on site each day:

 

"Construction continues at the plant’s site in New Albany, a Columbus suburb, where company officials said more than 2,000 construction workers are on site daily. Two weeks ago, state officials celebrated the delivery of a “super load” 364,000 pound tank from a dock on the Ohio River in Adams County to the construction site that required temporary road blocks and a police escort. And this week, the Public Utilities Commission of Ohio approved an agreement between Intel and American Electric Power, a Columbus-area utility company. AEP agreed to build a $95 million electrical substation to power the plant..."

 

Full article found here:

 

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/09/theres-no-sign-that-anything-is-not-going-to-happen-here-dewine-responds-to-intels-business-woes.html

 

I still maintain Intel will not occupy the plant. They are a horribly ran company and should have never been given the money in the first place.

46 minutes ago, columbus17 said:

I still maintain Intel will not occupy the plant. They are a horribly ran company and should have never been given the money in the first place.

Intel might not but a spinoff might.

9 hours ago, wpcc88 said:

Intel might not but a spinoff might.

Yeah this thing is getting built one way or the other, anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

1 hour ago, TIm said:

Yeah this thing is getting built one way or the other, anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

Built definitely. Too far in to not

11 hours ago, wpcc88 said:

Intel might not but a spinoff might.

TSMC will. They’re the best at it and always need more capacity.

 

This video was shot over two days last week. Keen observers may notice that a half-dozen of the precast 24'x24' concrete tiles were placed between filming days. I hope to catch the LR 11350s in action sometime soon. Please let me know if you see anything else of note or items to focus on next.

Wow.  My favorite one to date. It’s easier now to grasp the enormous scope of this project and the amount of activity taking place. 

 

Small update on the latest superload moving through central Ohio:

 

17TH SUPER LOAD MOVE UPDATE:

 

"The super load finished Friday, September 13, at Rickenbacker due to making good time during the move. There will be NO move on Saturday, September 14. The super load will move again through Columbus to the intel site in Licking County on Sunday."

 

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/OHDOT/bulletins/3b5981b

 

 

Intel strikes multibillion-dollar deal with Amazon, boosting New Albany project

 

"Intel on Monday reaffirmed its commitment to its $28 billion project in New Albany and said it has struck a new multiyear, multibillion-dollar partnership with Amazon, one of its Licking County neighbors.

 

The company did not specify how many years or billions of dollars the Amazon partnership was for beyond that the chips will power artificial intelligence applications based on Intel's most advanced technology.

 

The partnership with Amazon comes after Amazon's announcement a year ago that it will spend $7.8 billion to build out its data center operations in central Ohio. Amazon has invested $10.3 billion in Ohio since 2015.

 

The two said the collaboration underscores their commitment to accelerating U.S.-based semiconductor manufacturing and creating a vibrant artificial intelligence ecosystem in Ohio.

 

Intel said it will explore the potential for further designs with Amazon to be produced by Intel using its most advanced chips that are expected to be produced in New Albany.

 

Separately on Monday, Intel announced that it has qualified for up to $3 billion in additional federal aid to make chips for the U.S. military."

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2024/09/16/intel-reaffirms-support-for-licking-county-strikes-amazon-partnership/75254324007/

 

 

Intel to produce semiconductor chips for Amazon Web Services at New Albany plant

 

Intel Corp. will produce semiconductor chips for Amazon Web Services at its future campus in Central Ohio.

 

The partnership, which the companies describe as a multi-year, multi-billion-dollar co-investment, comes as Intel continues to build out its $28 billion chip manufacturing complex in New Albany. The complex is expected to finish construction between 2026 and 2027 and become operational between 2027 and 2028.

 

As part of the expanded collaboration, Intel will produce an AI fabric chip and a custom Xeon 6 chip for AWS. The company says the production of these chips will build on an existing partnership under which Intel produces Xeon Scalable processors for AWS.

 

“This expansion of our longtime relationship with AWS reflects the strength of our process technology and delivers differentiated solutions for customer workloads,” Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger said in a press release.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/09/17/intel-corp-amazon-web-services-chip-manufacturing.html

 

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Interesting to see that Intel's rival, TSMC, is now producing Apple's A16 chips at their new fab in Arizona. This chip was first used for the iPhone 14 Pro (2022) and iPhone 15 (2023), but will likely continue to be used for many years in other products that don't need the most powerful chip, such as the Apple TV, iPhone SE, low end iPad, and maybe even other smart home devices.

 

It will be interesting to see if TSMC continues to introduce the latest chipmaking technology in Taiwan and only brings the older tech to the U.S., and if Intel will be able to push ahead of them here.

50 minutes ago, taestell said:

Interesting to see that Intel's rival, TSMC, is now producing Apple's A16 chips at their new fab in Arizona. This chip was first used for the iPhone 14 Pro (2022) and iPhone 15 (2023), but will likely continue to be used for many years in other products that don't need the most powerful chip, such as the Apple TV, iPhone SE, low end iPad, and maybe even other smart home devices.

 

It will be interesting to see if TSMC continues to introduce the latest chipmaking technology in Taiwan and only brings the older tech to the U.S., and if Intel will be able to push ahead of them here.

TSMC's old tech is still ahead of Intel's newest. They are 2-3 generations behind TSMC

3 hours ago, taestell said:

Interesting to see that Intel's rival, TSMC, is now producing Apple's A16 chips at their new fab in Arizona. This chip was first used for the iPhone 14 Pro (2022) and iPhone 15 (2023), but will likely continue to be used for many years in other products that don't need the most powerful chip, such as the Apple TV, iPhone SE, low end iPad, and maybe even other smart home devices.

 

It will be interesting to see if TSMC continues to introduce the latest chipmaking technology in Taiwan and only brings the older tech to the U.S., and if Intel will be able to push ahead of them here.


A quibble: it's not TSMC's 'latest chipmaking technology' that's important in the semiconductors race but rather the technology from ASML, a Netherlands-based firm.

 

Their leading-edge technology -- and the future of semiconductors; e.g. Intel's 18A and 14A nodes -- will be enabled by ASML's 'high numerical aperture extreme ultraviolet' (High-NA EUV) lithography machines. In fact, these sophisticated machines represent the bulk of the $28 billion fab costs for Intel Ohio One (and all manufacturer's foundries for that matter). The machines are larger than charter buses and cost about $400 million. Truly fascinating technology, frankly. If you want a deep-dive on them please check out Asianometry [0] on YouTube, he extensively covers this technology -- and semiconductors more broadly.

 

Regarding the race between TSMC and Intel, I'll add that TSMC took possession just last week of its first High-NA EUV machine from ASML [1]. For comparison, Intel received its first machine some five months ago [2]. Also, Intel has purchased the entire 2024 inventory from ASML [3]. (The machines already delivered were built in 2023.)

 

[0] https://www.youtube.com/@Asianometry
[1] https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/tsmcs-first-high-na-euv-litho-tool-to-begin-installation-this-month-according-to-industry-insiders
[2] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/newsroom/resources/intel-high-na-euv.html
[3] https://www.extremetech.com/computing/report-intel-bought-all-of-asmls-high-na-euv-machines-for-2024

 

The Liebherr LR12500 has arrived onsite at Intel Ohio One and is currently being assembled. Note the humans standing next to it for mind-boggling scale.

 

 

 

Closing in on the 20th superload...

 

LOAD 18 AND 19 TO INTEL IN NEW ALBANY

 

The eighteenth and nineteenth of nearly two dozen “superloads” will depart the dock site in Adams County on Friday, September 20 and Saturday, September 21. Both loads will be delivered at different times on Sunday, September 22.

 

Cargo: Absorbers

Height: 17’4”

Width: 18′

Length: 86’

Weight: 129,000 pounds

 

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https://siliconheartland.newalbanyohio.org/2024/07/01/upcoming-superload-deliveries/

 

10 hours ago, columbus17 said:

Told y'all Intel wouldn't make it.

It’s doubtful this would ever happen, or that the FTC would be down for it. 

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It's American company without fabs buying a dying American company with fabs. Why wouldn't they allow it? Maybe they make Intel spin off the design portion of the company, but Intel has already been prepping for a split, they relatively recently opened their fabs to produce outside designs and started splitting out the financial results of their manufacturing in their filings. 

 

I agree this Ohio location moves ahead because of the federal money behind it, but they're pausing fabs in Poland and Germany and canceling a fab in Malaysia. It moves ahead to achieve the bare minimum of what they need to do to get those sweet federal dollars, but it will be a long time if ever before we see 10 fabs or whatever the "potential" investment they were swinging around 3 years ago was. 

23 hours ago, 17thState said:

It's American company without fabs buying a dying American company with fabs. Why wouldn't they allow it? Maybe they make Intel spin off the design portion of the company, but Intel has already been prepping for a split, they relatively recently opened their fabs to produce outside designs and started splitting out the financial results of their manufacturing in their filings. 

 

I agree this Ohio location moves ahead because of the federal money behind it, but they're pausing fabs in Poland and Germany and canceling a fab in Malaysia. It moves ahead to achieve the bare minimum of what they need to do to get those sweet federal dollars, but it will be a long time if ever before we see 10 fabs or whatever the "potential" investment they were swinging around 3 years ago was. 

At this point I feel unsafe having the country do any business with Intel. Same goes with Boeing...

So dramatic my goodness. Chips are gonna get built. Jobs are going to be provided. Columbus will be better for it. There is no telling what dictates future needs of this plant. 

“Feeling unsafe”…. Isn’t factual. The overwhelming statistics show that Boeing continues to make safe products. The successful operation of Boeing products happens every second of everyday. 

2 hours ago, Jd1137 said:

So dramatic my goodness. Chips are gonna get built. Jobs are going to be provided. Columbus will be better for it. There is no telling what dictates future needs of this plant. 

“Feeling unsafe”…. Isn’t factual. The overwhelming statistics show that Boeing continues to make safe products. The successful operation of Boeing products happens every second of everyday. 

The people actively rooting for this to fail truly are something else. Just makes no sense to me to be so pessimistic about something you'll never have close to all the information about to be able to determine what will happen one way or the other. Like you can just sit back and watch and hope it works out, but there's an entire contingency being vocal about it failing for some odd reason. Why would anyone in Central Ohio root for this to fail?

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16 minutes ago, TIm said:

The people actively rooting for this to fail truly are something else. Just makes no sense to me to be so pessimistic about something you'll never have close to all the information about to be able to determine what will happen one way or the other. Like you can just sit back and watch and hope it works out, but there's an entire contingency being vocal about it failing for some odd reason. Why would anyone in Central Ohio root for this to fail?

 

The same thing happens in sports. There are certain fans who will always assume the worst possible outcome. If their team loses, at least they can tell everyone "I told you so" and have the satisfaction of being "right". If they win, they were happily proved wrong. They don't want to feel like a fool for believing their team would win only to be let down, so they consistently assume the worst in order to avoid ever being the hopeful fool. 

 

That exact scenario is happening here. There's obviously a chance the entire thing could fall apart, no chips are ever made, no permanent jobs are ever created, and Columbus and the state of Ohio did all this work for nothing. It's a very slim chance, but it's a chance. So certain people hedge their bets and assume the worst to avoid the slight possibility that they might look like a fool in the future. 

 

The reasonable thing to do here is to literally just exist. Don't be a cheerleader for failure. Don't fight tooth and nail with pessimists to prove to them that the project will definitely happen. Just exist. Nobody knows what the future will hold. It certainly seems like the project will be seen through to completion one way or another, but life is unpredictable. 

7 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

The same thing happens in sports. There are certain fans who will always assume the worst possible outcome. If their team loses, at least they can tell everyone "I told you so" and have the satisfaction of being "right". If they win, they were happily proved wrong. They don't want to feel like a fool for believing their team would win only to be let down, so they consistently assume the worst in order to avoid ever being the hopeful fool. 

 

That exact scenario is happening here. There's obviously a chance the entire thing could fall apart, no chips are ever made, no permanent jobs are ever created, and Columbus and the state of Ohio did all this work for nothing. It's a very slim chance, but it's a chance. So certain people hedge their bets and assume the worst to avoid the slight possibility that they might look like a fool in the future. 

 

The reasonable thing to do here is to literally just exist. Don't be a cheerleader for failure. Don't fight tooth and nail with pessimists to prove to them that the project will definitely happen. Just exist. Nobody knows what the future will hold. It certainly seems like the project will be seen through to completion one way or another, but life is unpredictable. 

"Don't be a cheerleader for failure"

 

Literally couldn't have said it better! I'm 100% stealing this saying haha.

I think it's highly likely we get the fab they are currently constructing, but I don't think it's counter productive to question whether a company that's lost $100+ billion of market cap (half of their value) since this project was announced and one that is actively pausing other fabs will continue to build out the site beyond the initial fab.  There's pessimism and there's evaluating the reality of the situation.  Maybe we should slow play any additional tax payer investments that are banking on more than 1 fab until we see how this plays out. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/23/business/dealbook/intels-chips-qualcomm-apollo.html?smid=url-share

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Congress approves bill to speed up construction of new microchip plants, including Intel facility in Ohio

 

"The U.S. House of Representatives on Monday approved bipartisan legislation that will streamline federal reviews for microchip manufacturing facilities such as a $20 billion factory that Intel is building outside Columbus.

 

“This legislation will help prevent delays to the semiconductor manufacturing projects the CHIPS Act made possible and will encourage future investments in American manufacturing,” said a statement from Brown. “This is critical to Intel’s project in Licking County and to ensure that we can outcompete China.

 

The bipartisan Building Chips in America Act of 2023, whose cosponsors include U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown of Cleveland and U.S. Rep. Emilia Sykes of Akron, passed the House by a 257 to 125 margin.

 

Since it passed the Senate unanimously in December, it now heads to President Joe Biden’s desk to be signed into law."

 

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/09/congress-approves-bill-to-speed-up-construction-of-new-microchip-plants-including-intel-facility-in-ohio.html

 

15 hours ago, Luvcbus said:

 

Congress approves bill to speed up construction of new microchip plants, including Intel facility in Ohio

 

"The U.S. House of Representatives on Monday approved bipartisan legislation that will streamline federal reviews for microchip manufacturing facilities such as a $20 billion factory that Intel is building outside Columbus.

 

“This legislation will help prevent delays to the semiconductor manufacturing projects the CHIPS Act made possible and will encourage future investments in American manufacturing,” said a statement from Brown. “This is critical to Intel’s project in Licking County and to ensure that we can outcompete China.

 

The bipartisan Building Chips in America Act of 2023, whose cosponsors include U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown of Cleveland and U.S. Rep. Emilia Sykes of Akron, passed the House by a 257 to 125 margin.

 

Since it passed the Senate unanimously in December, it now heads to President Joe Biden’s desk to be signed into law."

 

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2024/09/congress-approves-bill-to-speed-up-construction-of-new-microchip-plants-including-intel-facility-in-ohio.html

 

When I see stuff like this, this is what really makes me questions the people who think it'll fail. The federal government has pumped millions if not billions into this project, they aren't going to let it fail.

9 hours ago, TIm said:

When I see stuff like this, this is what really makes me questions the people who think it'll fail. The federal government has pumped millions if not billions into this project, they aren't going to let it fail.

Ahh yes, the federal government famously great with money has never spent billions of dollars on a failure... 

 

( Zumwalt Class Destroyers: $24.5B, Littoral Combat Ship Program: $7B, Boeing Starliner: $4.2B, Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle: $3B, War on Drugs: probably in the trillions) 

 

Look I hope this works out for us as well, but the feds throwing money at something with their fingers crossed is no guarantee of success. 

Even the WSJ is taking shots at Intel 

 

Rebuilding domestic semiconductor manufacturing capacity in the U.S. is critical. In an ideal world, Intel would play a major role in that project. But the reality is that the greater good may be best served by allowing Intel to get its own house in order before it takes on the broader interests of U.S. security.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/intels-foundry-shake-up-doesnt-go-far-enough-10dbb322

 

Super Micro getting hit with a DOJ probe over accounting practices, rough week for the chip industry. At least there's Nvidia. 

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