January 10, 20205 yr Awesome... a 23 story building on this site is going to look amazing. I wonder what height that might be for a residential building? For comparison, One University Circle is 20 floors and 235 feet tall. The Ernst and Young Tower (keeping in mind office buildings have different floor heights) is 21 floors and 330 feet tall. The City Club Building next door is 14 stories, and the 668 Apartments I think are only 8 stories. So this could really stand out. Just imagine!!
January 10, 20205 yr 25 minutes ago, mrclifton88 said: Awesome... a 23 story building on this site is going to look amazing. I wonder what height that might be for a residential building? For comparison, One University Circle is 20 floors and 235 feet tall. The Ernst and Young Tower (keeping in mind office buildings have different floor heights) is 21 floors and 330 feet tall. The City Club Building next door is 14 stories, and the 668 Apartments I think are only 8 stories. So this could really stand out. Just imagine!! At 23 stories and 264 feet, something similar to Skyhouse Raleigh would work just fine by me. https://www.rent.com/north-carolina/raleigh-apartments/skyhouse-raleigh-4-100047015
January 10, 20205 yr Author Euclid Avenue is blowing up. More fireworks coming soon. ? ? ? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 10, 20205 yr 19 minutes ago, KJP said: Euclid Avenue is blowing up. More fireworks coming soon. ? ? ? Is More Fireworks in reference to City Club Apts Or is there something else lurking in the beginning stages?
January 10, 20205 yr Author 1 minute ago, simplythis said: Is More Fireworks in reference to City Club Apts Or is there something else lurking in the beginning stages? Something else in the late stages. And somethings (plural) else in the beginning stages. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 10, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, KJP said: Something else in the late stages. And somethings (plural) else in the beginning stages. Let's See - JHB - Underway 925 Centennial - Planning Stage ( Needs to get started ) Possible - Cowell & Hubbard - Vacant lot by the Statler What Else could it be
January 10, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, skiwest said: Maybe the BIG one he's been hinting at for a while. There is no room on Euclid for the BIG ONE
January 10, 20205 yr Author 10 minutes ago, skiwest said: Maybe the BIG one he's been hinting at for a while. Nope. Not yet. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 10, 20205 yr Thats my vote ^ ... that would be amazing to see. Especially since my apartment looks right at this hole ? I will give up part of my lake view for something to be built there. Edited January 10, 20205 yr by mrclifton88
January 10, 20205 yr 8 hours ago, marty15 said: The only open spot left would be next to the Union Club. I doubt if anyone would concede to giving up that parking lot but that's what happens in the most successful cities - few surface lots in central cities.
January 10, 20205 yr 10 hours ago, KJP said: Something else in the late stages. And somethings (plural) else in the beginning stages. Would this be downtown, or another part of Euclid like UC?
January 10, 20205 yr Author 1 minute ago, scg80 said: Would this be downtown, or another part of Euclid like UC? Downtown. But there's just a ton of stuff planned for the Euclid Corridor (and a couple of blocks either side of it) from downtown to UC. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 10, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, KJP said: Downtown. But there's just a ton of stuff planned for the Euclid Corridor (and a couple of blocks either side of it) from downtown to UC. New construction or maybe a retail tenant?
January 10, 20205 yr 12 hours ago, tykaps said: ????? New construction permits have been filed for a 23 story building! Don't get too excited. It's still gotta go through the planning commission and a few more steps, but progress is being made and we'll hopefully get some renderings soon enough. Only other notable info mentioned in the permit is that the architect is Vocon. The project is on the Thursday agenda for downtown design review. It should then appear before the city planning commission Friday. http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2020/01172020/DF-DRAC-agenda-1-16-20.pdf http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3396&CASE=DF 2020-001 Project Information: Downtown/Flats Case # DF 2020-002 Address: 720 Euclid Ave. Company: Vocon Architect: Vocon | NA Description: The proposed construction of a new mixed use building on existing vacant land.
January 10, 20205 yr https://www.cleveland.com/business/2020/01/new-apartment-tower-planned-on-euclid-avenue-parking-lot.html
January 10, 20205 yr "According to the plans submitted to the city, the project would include first- and second-floor retail, topped by apartments ranging from studio to three-bedroom units. Site plans show an amenity space on the top floor." Sounds like a winner!! Time to fill in another missing tooth along Euclid Ave...
January 10, 20205 yr 13 minutes ago, skiwest said: https://www.cleveland.com/business/2020/01/new-apartment-tower-planned-on-euclid-avenue-parking-lot.html The inclusion of first and second story retail is promising. Considering the plans late last year called for a 22 story building, this extra floor could indicate a large planned retailer coming into the project for a two-story space. Edited January 10, 20205 yr by tykaps
January 10, 20205 yr 15 minutes ago, skiwest said: https://www.cleveland.com/business/2020/01/new-apartment-tower-planned-on-euclid-avenue-parking-lot.html Cool. Digging the confirmation of mixed-used. According to the plans submitted to the city, the project would include first- and second-floor retail, topped by apartments ranging from studio to three-bedroom units. Site plans show an amenity space on the top floor. ----- EDIT: LOL ... Great UO-minds think alike! Edited January 10, 20205 yr by MuRrAy HiLL
January 10, 20205 yr Two story retail is very interesting. That would lead me to believe that they might have a retailer lined up. I doubt they'd forego apartment space for speculative retail but we shall see.
January 10, 20205 yr If the average floor height is the same as the Lumen, this project will have a final height of 270ft. Not bad.
January 10, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, freefourur said: Two story retail is very interesting. That would lead me to believe that they might have a retailer lined up. I doubt they'd forego apartment space for speculative retail but we shall see. Come on, show me City Target!
January 10, 20205 yr "according to an agenda released this week (scroll to the bottom of the page to see the agenda, with project renderings)." Renderings exist, but cleveland.com is still teasing us. Hopefully they'll update it soon.
January 10, 20205 yr 7 minutes ago, tykaps said: "according to an agenda released this week (scroll to the bottom of the page to see the agenda, with project renderings)." Renderings exist, but cleveland.com is still teasing us. Hopefully they'll update it soon. Yes I thought I was missing something!
January 10, 20205 yr Author I wonder when the Cleveland project is going to be on City Club's website? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 10, 20205 yr Wow, between SW yesterday at City Club today, the Roaring Twenties are off to a great start for Cleveland. As significant as the SW news is (it's a Fortune 500 company recommitting to Cleveland!), I hope this doesn't get lost in the shuffle. After almost a decade of office-to-residential conversions, we finally saw new builds in the Beacon and Lumen the last few years. The latter are interesting because it costs far more to build residential from scratch than it does to renovate an existing structure. Does this mean Cleveland rents per square foot are finally getting to the point where new residential towers can be financed on a semi-regular basis? If so, that's incredible news.
January 10, 20205 yr 4 minutes ago, Down_with_Ctown said: Wow, between SW yesterday at City Club today, the Roaring Twenties are off to a great start for Cleveland. As significant as the SW news is (it's a Fortune 500 company recommitting to Cleveland!), I hope this doesn't get lost in the shuffle. After almost a decade of office-to-residential conversions, we finally saw new builds in the Beacon and Lumen the last few years. The latter are interesting because it costs far more to build residential from scratch than it does to renovate an existing structure. Does this mean Cleveland rents per square foot are finally getting to the point where new residential towers can be financed on a semi-regular basis? If so, that's incredible news. Sounds like we're getting close to that point (if not already there). See this: https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/12/report-cleveland-had-highest-rent-growth-among-top-100-cities-in-2019.html
January 10, 20205 yr here it is: https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:0cf31f95-f658-488e-9780-d37db97c87ca
January 10, 20205 yr Author 2 minutes ago, Clefan98 said: Sounds like we're getting close to that point (if not already there). See this: https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/12/report-cleveland-had-highest-rent-growth-among-top-100-cities-in-2019.html I was thinking about that news today too. Investors from around the country are becoming aware of this. Local developers are increasingly able to tap this out-of-state equity to make residential projects happen here. Rents aren't there for office developments yet, however, and subsidies aren't as available for office projects as they are for housing. The exception is if office development repurposes an existing building or if there's a dominant anchor tenant that commits to filling all of the building and is willing to pay Trophy Class rates to get Trophy Class amenities. But it's great to see the housing rates reach a level where this residential development is possible. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 10, 20205 yr 9 minutes ago, NewtoCLE said: here it is: https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:0cf31f95-f658-488e-9780-d37db97c87ca Very Nice
January 10, 20205 yr I love how playful it is. Especially with the streetscape and 1st and 2nd levels. Very unique. Also, looks like the retails will be a 2 story restaurant and doggy daycare.
January 10, 20205 yr Wow. Fun. I like reviving the Hippodrome marquee Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
January 10, 20205 yr Author A few more renders...... Edited January 10, 20205 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 10, 20205 yr WOW! That looks awesome, It's like we have our own little cosmopolitan hotel from Vegas, but just without the Gambling part.
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