Steve Harvey?

 

 

Should now read: Steve Harvey Wrong-Way or Steve Harvey Can't Read Way.

Hi everyone,

 

I'm from British TV company ITN, making a documentary about the US Presidential Elections in Ohio. I'm looking to speak to people whose families are divided between the two candidates.

 

Please do get in touch! Would be great to hear from as many of you as possible!

 

Chris

The bigger question you should be asking is not who is divided between the 2 candidates but rather who is divided between picking a candidate and picking none of the above. The vast majority of voters hate both candidates, unlike at any time in recent memory, but ultimately are afraid of the consequences of not picking what some describe as the "lesser of 2 evils."  This is why Hillary may open up a 10 point lead without actually gaining anything in the polls. No one likes her or trusts her but they find her more palatable than Trump. The Trump ticket is rather interesting because he is someone who re-wrote the rules for the primary but as history will likely prove, you cannot do that in a 2 person race.

 

My prediction is that whomever wins will be a one term candidate for a variety of reasons. First, they will enter with extremely high negatives making it very difficult for them to get a governing mandate. This will likely deteriorate even more as the first 100 days honeymoon period comes to an end. Chances are both candidates will face at least one hostile chamber in Congress, making it difficult to accomplish anything significant legislatively. Finally, given the nature of the business cycle, there is likely to be some sort of economic slowdown over the next presidential term, which will be blamed on the administration in many cases. Given this, along with a hostile Congress, it will be difficult to push any significant agenda. 

 

Ultimately, in my opinion, whomever wins the election is going to be the ultimate loser. In some sort of weird paradox, a Trump win is the best thing the democratic party should hope for and a Hillary win is the best long term solution for the GOP because ultimately, the long term perceived harm they will do to their parties is far worse than what either of them would do in the White House.

Public Corruption Investigators Serve Subpoenas on Budish Administration per

https://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2018/02/16/public-corruption-investigators-serve-subpoenas-on-budish-administration

The corruption in Ohio's government is nothing short of staggering. And worst of all, it's legal....

 

In Ohio, payday-lending vultures have bought themselves a legislature: Brent Larkin

http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/04/stare_down_the_payday-lending.html

Supporters and perpetrators of Trump's "massive voter fraud" claim have no place in public office--at any level. Kim Veras, a councilwoman from Brecksville (https://www.brecksville.oh.us/City Hall/council.html) is amongst them and has got to go. She KNOWS Trump's claims of fraud "are "credible."  As a Trumpie at the city level--she will push divisive policies in Brecksville.

 

“Those of us who have repeatedly led grassroots campaigns and Election Day volunteer efforts know that the charges of massive voter fraud made by President Trump are credible,” Veras, Sciria and other members of the Cuyahoga Valley Republicans Board of Trustees said in the Dec. 31 letter. “It is remarkable that so many Republican leaders don’t see it.”

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2021/01/political-firestorm-erupts-after-brecksville-councilwoman-planning-commissioner-sign-letter-supporting-donald-trumps-election-fraud-claims.html

 

According to the Brecksville City Council site, Kim Veras's term end 1/1/2022, meaning she's up for re-election in Nov 2021. She ran in 2019, so apparently she only got a 2-yr instead of 4-yr term even though she was an incumbent. The Brecksville City Charter states: 

 

The terms ofCouncilmen shall be staggered. Four (4) Councilmen shall be elected at each regular municipal election held after November 1957. Of the four candidates so elected the three (3) receiving the highest number of votes shall each serve for a term of four (4) years and the one (1) receiving the next highest number of votes shall serve for a term of two (2) years. (https://www.brecksville.oh.us/City Info/PDFs/Policies/Brecksville City Charter.pdf)

 

We must remember her as the Nov 2021 campaign season begins to remove her from office.

 

 

I am considering starting an Ohio Libertarian Party Affiliate in Sandusky County.  If there are any Libertarians in Fremont, Clyde, Gibsonburg, Woodville, Lindsey, Helena, Burgoon, or Ballville, Ohio, or attending Terra State Community College, who would be interested in helping me get an affiliate started, please fill out this survey.

Edited March 3, 20214 yr by Joshua

https://therealdealpress.com/2.0/index.php/community/885-malcontent-mischief-in-maple-heights

 

The buzz is the real reason for this attempt is that Trojanski is openly gay.   His race may have something to do with it as well.   Neither part is being said out loud.

What a mess. Just when I thought politics in that town were finally getting back to sanity.

Please please let this get through the spam filter, I swear this is an actual Plain Dealer article and I'm not some Russian bot trying to get gullible old folks to click risky links ...

 

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/02/hudson-mayor-suggests-ice-fishing-could-lead-to-prostitution-in-ice-shanties.html

 

Council President Chris Foster said “a number of residents” have requested permission to ice fish on Hudson Springs Lake, according to a recording of the meeting posted on the city’s website. Ice fishing is currently prohibited on the lake.

 

Several officials demurred. They worried someone could fall through the ice, and the city could be held liable. It could also create an additional burden for Hudson’s firefighters, paramedics, and police officers.

 

Shubert raised an altogether different concern.

 

“If you open this up to ice fishing, while on the surface it sounds good, then what happens next year?” Shubert asked. “Does someone come back and say ‘I want an ice shanty on Hudson Springs Park, for X amount of time?’ And then if you then allow ice fishing with shanties, then that leads to another problem: prostitution. And now you’ve got the police chief and the police department involved.”

 

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Query whether he is actually concerned with Hudson hookers or just wants to stake out an initial position that he can later back off of in exchange for making sure that any ice shanties are at least 4000 square feet on 1-acre lots with a minimum 200' of frontage and 200' setback.

Isn't the same guy was railing on and on about "child pornography in classrooms" over that one college level creative writing class? Sounds like Mayor Shubert has an obsession with sex that is unhealthy.

29 minutes ago, OliverHazardPerry said:

Isn't the same guy was railing on and on about "child pornography in classrooms" over that one college level creative writing class? Sounds like Mayor Shubert has an obsession with sex that is unhealthy.

Yes. Same guy. I bet he has a closet full of skeletons. 

He sounded a little hopeful to me, actually.  "So guys, what's the plan?  We gonna get some brewskis and a pizza then call some hookers to come over to our ice shanties or what?  No?  Lame!"

 

If he only knew that ice fishermen never have to pay for sex.

I read about and got my laughs earlier, but now I finally watched the video and it’s amazing. The reaction of the guy next to him will soon be a quality gif. 
 

 

Also, Tyler is right: 

 

^ Quite possibly THE dumbest thing I've heard haha. To think that global warming could jeopardize ice fishing prostitution is really sad...the end of an era. 

Hudson Mayor Craig Shubert resigns in wake of linking ice fishing shanties to prostitution

 

 

https://www.cleveland.com/hudson/2022/02/hudson-mayor-craig-shubert-resigns-in-wake-of-linking-ice-fishing-shanties-to-prostitution.html

This timeline, man...

And the hits keep coming...

 

Bill to Deregulate Development of Ephemeral Water Streams Moving Through Ohio Legislature

 

The Ohio legislature could soon pass a bill deregulating the development of “ephemeral streams” — natural flows of water that form after rain and snowmelt.

 

Ohio has an estimated 115,000 miles of primary headwater streams, according to legislative testimony from Ohio Environmental Protection Agency Director Laurie Stevenson, referring to the brooks and ravines that are the origin of most rivers. Of them, an estimated 36,400 miles are ephemeral streams. They channel water into larger streams and can filter out contaminants like nitrogen and phosphorus.

 

Current state law requires a permit to discharge, dredge or fill material into any ephemeral feature, according to analysis from the Legislative Service Commission. Environmentalists say this permit, which is sometimes paired with required environmental mitigation, is a key means to protect larger bodies of water that catch ephemeral flow.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/bill-to-deregulate-development-of-ephemeral-water-streams-moving-through-ohio-legislature-ocj1/

 

On 4/5/2022 at 11:34 AM, ColDayMan said:

And the hits keep coming...

 

Bill to Deregulate Development of Ephemeral Water Streams Moving Through Ohio Legislature

 

The Ohio legislature could soon pass a bill deregulating the development of “ephemeral streams” — natural flows of water that form after rain and snowmelt.

 

Ohio has an estimated 115,000 miles of primary headwater streams, according to legislative testimony from Ohio Environmental Protection Agency Director Laurie Stevenson, referring to the brooks and ravines that are the origin of most rivers. Of them, an estimated 36,400 miles are ephemeral streams. They channel water into larger streams and can filter out contaminants like nitrogen and phosphorus.

 

Current state law requires a permit to discharge, dredge or fill material into any ephemeral feature, according to analysis from the Legislative Service Commission. Environmentalists say this permit, which is sometimes paired with required environmental mitigation, is a key means to protect larger bodies of water that catch ephemeral flow.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/bill-to-deregulate-development-of-ephemeral-water-streams-moving-through-ohio-legislature-ocj1/

 

 

Hah!  Now here's a flashback: I won a spot on my moot court team in law school with an argument involving a (fictional) case about ephemeral water streams, and I had to argue that the rule in question covered the streams even when they were dry.

 

The line that came to me on the spot that might have won the case for me was "a pipe is still a pipe even when there's no water flowing through it," and the regulation covers the pipe, not the water.

 

That fictional case involved factory discharge into a stream, not fills and dredges for real estate development, though.  My eyebrows here are perking on the more practical issue: they say that the permitting process is expensive for developers, but developers who sell homes (or commercial buildings) built too near ephemeral water streams are going to get sued into oblivion if they sell when it's dry and the houses aren't prepared to handle when it's wet.  They'd better be really confident that their unregulated fills and dredges will adequately divert the water that "wants" to flow in a particular direction (i.e., through the former ephemeral stream) in a sustainable direction.  The state legislature can change the laws of Ohio; it cannot change the laws of nature.

 

One of the reasons my wife and I bought a house on a ravine lot is because water easily and naturally goes away from our house in all directions--down the road on one side to a storm drain and down the ravine on the other.  We still had a flood one time when the drain pipe of the basement mechanical room got blocked by tree roots that intruded into the pipe halfway to the road, but at least we haven't had to deal with water constantly pooling anywhere near the house waiting for a chance to sneak in.

Tomorrow, ask what LaRose believes...

 

 

Bill Blocking Cities From Restricting Carrying Knives Making its Way Through Ohio Legislature

 

An Ohio House committee passed legislation Thursday that would block cities from passing local laws restricting whether people can carry switchblades and other knives within their borders.

 

The legislation passed the Senate in October in a party line vote with Republicans in support. It can now proceed to the House floor for a final vote before going to the governor for approval or veto. If passed, the state alone would control what kind of knives people can carry.

 

It follows legislation enacted last year allowing people in Ohio to carry an array of concealed knives and other similar weapons including brass knuckles, cestuses, billy clubs, blackjacks, sandbags, switchblade knives, springblade knives, gravity knives, and others. That law took effect last year.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/bill-blocking-cities-from-restricting-carrying-knives-making-its-way-through-ohio-legislature-ocj1/

 

But why

Columbus Sues Ohio Over “Medical Practitioner Conscience” Law

 

The city of Columbus has filed a lawsuit against the state of Ohio challenging the “Medical Practitioner Conscience” clause passed in 2021.

 

Governor Mike DeWine signed Ohio’s budget (HB 1222) on June 30 — the final day of Pride Month — keeping intact the “Medical Practitioner Conscience” clause, which allows healthcare providers to refuse care if they feel that care conflicts with their “moral, ethical, or religious beliefs.”

...

Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost issued the following statement in response to the lawsuit.

 

“It is amazing how little rights of conscience matter to those without one. This law was thoroughly vetted, is grounded in historical constitutional bedrock and passed by the elected representatives of the people of Ohio through the normal legislative process. This lawsuit is meritless, anti-democracy and authoritarian. The law will be vigorously – and I believe successfully – defended in court.”

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/columbus-sues-ohio-for-the-medical-practitioner-conscience-law-tbf1/

 

New Ohio Law Deregulates Construction over Ephemeral Streams

 

Gov. Mike DeWine signed legislation Thursday to roll back regulations surrounding the development of ephemeral streams, which flow only by way of rain and snowmelt.

 

There are more than 36,000 miles of ephemeral streams in Ohio, according to legislative testimony from the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency. They channel water into larger streams and can filter out contaminants like nitrogen and phosphorus, which cause algal blooms.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/new-ohio-law-deregulates-construction-over-ephemeral-streams-ocj1/

 

Anyone else sick of the corruption yet?

 

Ohio state superintendent of public instruction finalist led job search for the position for months before applying, emails show

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2022/04/ohio-state-superintendent-of-public-instruction-finalist-led-job-search-for-the-position-for-months-before-applying-emails-show.html

These.  Fools.  Are.  Bored.

Ohio House Bill Takes Aim at Censorship on Social Media Platforms

 

An Ohio House committee passed legislation Tuesday prohibiting social media companies like Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube from “censoring” their users.

 

The legislation would block the companies from removing posts or expelling people from their platforms based on the “viewpoint” of users or ideas expressed in their posts. It wouldn’t apply to speech already illegal under federal law like harassment or inciting violence.

 

Passage comes as some of the large social media networks grapple with trends like widespread undermining among Republicans of the 2020 U.S. presidential election results, the proliferation of bunk health advice around the COVID-19 pandemic, and wholesale denial of the Holocaust.

 

Lawmakers in 16 other Republican states have introduced similar legislation, stemming from conservatives’ perception that social media companies disproportionately censor their views. In the last six months, federal judges in Florida and Texas have temporarily halted the only two such laws enacted thus far, ruling that they violate the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

 

The Ohio legislation, House Bill 441, would allow private citizens to sue social media companies and win judgements if their views are “censored.” This includes blocking, banning, demonetizing, deplatforming, removing, denying “equal access or visibility to,” or otherwise “discriminating” against the user based on what they post. The bill prohibits the companies from creating any kind of waiver for users to sign to circumvent the censorship law. It only applies to companies with at least 50 million users.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/ohio-house-bill-takes-aim-at-censorship-on-social-media-platforms-ocj1/

 

^The Ohio House with its finger right on the pulse of the real issues facing Ohioans. 

52 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

^The Ohio House with its finger right on the pulse of the real issues facing Ohioans. 

 

Pretty sure it's the middle finger.

New Bill Asks Voters to Decide if Districts Should Have School Resource Officers

 

A bill that may be up for a vote soon in the Ohio House would put the decision of whether or not to have a school resource officer up to the voters in each school district.

 

House Bill 501 seeks to change Ohio law that the sponsors of the bill say doesn’t define “school safety and security,” though it does include mental health services, safety training and safety personnel.

 

School resource officers, which are typically certified law enforcement officers use through an agreement with the officer’s police or sheriff’s department, would be included in the “safety personnel” part of Ohio law, under the new bill.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/new-bill-asks-voters-to-decide-if-districts-should-have-school-resource-officers-ocj1/

 

Ohio GOP Lawmakers Pass Bill to Arm Teachers in the Classroom

 

Republican state lawmakers sent a bill to Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine on Wednesday that empowers local boards of education to allow teachers to carry a gun in the classroom.

 

Under current law, a teacher would need consent of a board plus more than 700 hours of training to bear arms in school.

 

But under House Bill 99, that teacher would need consent of the board and to meet certain training requirements, which are capped by the state at 24 hours unless the local board demands more. The legislation, a rewrite of which was only unveiled Tuesday, doesn’t clearly establish any minimum number of training hours, and ample dispute and confusion exists as to what minimum standards the bill calls for.

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Rep. Reggie Stoltzfus, R-Minerva, described the legislation as an optional means of defense against an inevitable problem.

 

“School shootings have been around for decades,” he said. “They’re not going anywhere.”

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Rep. Dontavius Jarrells, D-Columbus, asked lead sponsor Rep. Thomas Hall, R-Madison Twp., a hypothetical: If a teacher mistakenly shoots a student, could the teacher be held liable? Hall didn’t directly answer the question, claiming it’s irrelevant to the legislation and the question was a form of grandstanding.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/ohio-gop-lawmakers-pass-bill-to-arm-teachers-in-the-classroom-ocj1/

 

 

I. HATE. OHIO.

 

 

The GOP is insane 

 

 

 

 

Re: the bill arming teachers - it appears the GOP is trying to put a *CAP* on training hours (24).

 

Ohio is such an embarrassment 

 

 

Ohio GOP Likely to Keep “Reproductive Freedom” Amendment Off November Ballot

 

A constitutional amendment introduced in Ohio to protect reproductive choice in the state likely will not be on the ballot for November, because it would need to make it through a Republican supermajority first.

 

The constitutional amendment was introduced by House Minority Whip Jessica Miranda, D-Forest Park and Senate Assistant Minority Leader Nickie Antonio, D-Lakewood, and seeks to “guarantee the right to reproductive freedom,” including “prenatal care, childbirth, postpartum care, contraception, sterilization, abortion care, miscarriage management and infertility care.”

 

“The amendment prohibits the state from discriminating in the protection or enforcement of this fundamental right,” according to an analysis by the Legislative Service Commission, adding that the amendment would bar the state from penalizing or prosecuting a person “based on the individual’s actual, potential, perceived or alleged pregnancy outcomes.”

 

The proposal, if passed by the General Assembly, would go to the ballot for the general election on Nov. 8 of this year.

 

More below:

https://columbusunderground.com/ohio-gop-likely-to-keep-reproductive-freedom-amendment-off-november-ballot-ocj1/

 

 

Why Ohio sucks. Our progressive big cities are lumped in with the Neanderthal rustics which suck up our tax dollars because they spend more time passing silly laws than creating jobs and a better quality of life...

 

 

 

 

 

The Ohio Supreme Court had the opportunity to hold the gerrymandering, I mean, redistricting committee, in contempt, but, for some reason, declined.  Why?  Also, I understand that the one Republican justice, who voted the map unconstitutional, is term liimited, and the GOP hopes her replacement will be more amenable to unfair districts.

 

2 hours ago, urb-a-saurus said:

The Ohio Supreme Court had the opportunity to hold the gerrymandering, I mean, redistricting committee, in contempt, but, for some reason, declined.  Why?  Also, I understand that the one Republican justice, who voted the map unconstitutional, is term liimited, and the GOP hopes her replacement will be more amenable to unfair districts.

 

Holding the highest officeholders in contempt would be extremely unusual. And they didn’t have the votes. Perhaps Chief Justice O’Conner now regrets not giving the additional push of contempt charges. And O’Conner is now age-limited and can’t run again, and yes her replacement will likely go along with the R schemes. Also, the Ohio legislature changed the law and added party affiliation to judge ballots (previously they did not list party affiliation for judges on voting ballots). They believe (probably correctly) that this increases the chance it will get an R elected to the bench. 
 

To me the worst part about all of this is that Ohio voters are unlikely to hold the wildly corrupt Ohio Republican Party accountable. 
 

Now we have to do another ballot initiative, presumably with the repetitive set of signature petitions required for changing Ohio laws, to solve a problem that we already voted overwhelmingly to solve. This time redistricting would have to require an independent commission. I’ll point out that that was the original intention, but the petition filers compromised in good faith with R leadership in order to avoid the second round of signature gathering. And those same R “leaders” completely screwed over the people of Ohio by not following the rules they themselves got to write. Just awful all around. 

43 minutes ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

Also, the Ohio legislature changed the law and added party affiliation to judge ballots (previously they did not list party affiliation for judges on voting ballots). They believe (probably correctly) that this increases the chance it will get an R elected to the bench.

To make this even more brazenly partisan, the statehouse only changed state courts to partisan elections. Municipal and county races will still be non-partisan, giving conservative judges advantages at all levels.

 

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Organizers of the referendum are affiliated with the Ohio Advocates for Medical Freedom, an anti-vaccination political organization. Dr. Steven Werming, a proctologist who helped organize the political effort and spoke at Tuesday’s hearing, said the amendment is about the right to refuse medical treatment.

He said he provides the pros and cons but doesn’t recommend that his own patients seek vaccination, and he offered several debunked claims about COVID-19 vaccines while speaking to reporters.

 

What people are asking vaccine advice of their proctologist  ??

 

 

On 7/7/2022 at 11:36 PM, KJP said:

 

 

So bioterrorism is okay now as long as it's aimed "correctly"?

58 minutes ago, E Rocc said:

 

So bioterrorism is okay now as long as it's aimed "correctly"?

I just checked and there's nothing in the constitution about this at all. Seems ok to me.

The right to mail poo shall not be infringed.

12 minutes ago, Clefan98 said:

I just checked and there's nothing in the constitution about this at all. Seems ok to me.

The right to mail poo shall not be infringed.

 

Since it contains no pathogens or anything like that.   If someone sent it to Dems it would be hitting the windmills.....