Curious as to what the reaction would be if we represented the Democratic party with pictures of fat, black, welfare moms?

Curious as to what the reaction would be if we represented the Democratic party with pictures of fat, black, welfare moms?

that there are more fat, white, welfare moms?

I just thought it was in poor taste, and that its ok in society, and on UO to ridicule entire groups of people based on their body shape, color, and appearance!

I just thought it was in poor taste, and that its ok in society, and on UO to ridicule entire groups of people based on their body shape, color, and appearance!

 

Well you know my sarcasm and that I'm not found of the south.  However, I completely hear, get & understand what your saying.

 

If the script was flipped I would have said the same.

Yes, I understand your sarcasm, and even though you posted the 1st pic, I wasn't even thinking that you offended me!

Yes, I understand your sarcasm, and even though you posted the 1st pic, I wasn't even thinking that you offended me!

 

Yee-Haw!

I would argue that the perspective of the Ohio GOP has been influenced by the broader southern turn in the party over the last twenty years. The right wing in Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, and the like has become more southern and less interested in the vitality of small town and industrial America.

Big wheels keep on turning

Carry me home to see my kin

Singing songs about the South land

I miss ole 'Bamy once again, and I think it's a sin, yeah

 

Well, I heard Mister Young sing about her

Well, I heard old Neil put her down

Well, I hope Neil Young will remember

A southern man don't need him around anyhow

 

{Refrain}

Sweet home Alabama, where the skies are so blue

Sweet home Alabama, Lord, I'm coming home to you

 

In Birmingham they love the Gov'nor, hoo hoo hoo

Now we all did what we could do

Now Watergate does not bother me

Does your conscience bother you, tell the truth

 

{Refrain}

 

Now Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers

And they've been known to pick a song or two,yes they do

Lord, they get me off so much

They pick me up when I'm feeling blue, now how about you

 

 

I just thought it was in poor taste, and that its ok in society, and on UO to ridicule entire groups of people based on their body shape, color, and appearance!

 

Look at DanB coming down on the side of "political correctness"!!!  Never thought I'd see the day!

 

Personally, I took the pictures as making fun of "Hillbillies", not white people or the GOP generally.  Is it "politically incorrect" to make fun of Hillbillies and Hicks?  I hope not.... that would do away with half of my best jokes and I won't be able to present anybody else the Application for West Virginia Citizenship that requires your wife to weigh more than your pick-up truck.

I just thought it was in poor taste, and that its ok in society, and on UO to ridicule entire groups of people based on their body shape, color, and appearance!

 

Look at DanB coming down on the side of "political correctness"!!!  Never thought I'd see the day!

 

Personally, I took the pictures as making fun of "Hillbillies", not white people or the GOP generally.  Is it "politically incorrect" to make fun of Hillbillies and Hicks?  I hope not.... that would do away with half of my best jokes and I won't be able to present anybody else the Application for West Virginia Citizenship that requires your wife to weigh more than your pick-up truck.

 

Lawd!  I done started some mess.  :angel:

I once had an algebra teacher tell me to shut up or he'd take away my cement!

I once had an algebra teacher tell me to shut up or he'd take away my cement!

:wtf:

 

 

 

THE SOUTHERN THING

(Hood / DBT)

 

Ain't about my pistol

Ain't about my boots

Ain't about no northern drives

Ain't about my southern roots

Ain't about my guitars, ain't about my big old amps

"It ain't rained in weeks, but the weather sure feels damp"

Ain't about excuses or alibis

Ain't about no cotton fields or cotton picking lies

Ain't about the races, the crying shame

To the fucking rich man all poor people look the same

 

Don't get me wrong It just ain't right

May not look strong, but I ain't afraid to fight

If you want to live another day

Stay out the way of the southern thing

 

Ain't about no hatred better raise a glass

It's a little about some rebels but it ain't about the past

Ain't about no foolish pride, Ain't about no flag

Hate's the only thing that my truck would want to drag

 

You think I'm dumb, maybe not too bright

You wonder how I sleep at night

Proud of the glory, stare down the shame

Duality of the southern thing

 

My Great Great Granddad had a hole in his side

He used to tell the story to the family Christmas night

Got shot at Shiloh, thought he'd die alone

From a Yankee bullet, less than thirty miles from home

Ain't no plantations in my family tree

Did NOT believe in slavery, thought that all men should be free

"But, who are these soldiers marching through my land?"

His bride could hear the cannons and she worried about her man

 

I heard the story as it was passed down

About guts and glory and Rebel stands

Four generations, a whole lot has changed

Robert E. Lee

Martin Luther King

We've come a long way rising from the flame

Stay out the way of the southern thing

 

Lord,

 

Why can't we get rid of those states/people?  Ugh!  ::)

Removed the images, please keep this at least on-topic and safe for lunch.

Removed the images, please keep this at least on-topic and safe for lunch.

 

Drats...and those were some of my better hillbilly photos!  he he he he  :laugh:

I'm not sure if Voinovich's assessment is correct. He'd certainly be correct to say that the South is a GOP stronghold. Or that Southern culture is eventually going to dominate the country (deal with it, y'all).

 

But I'm hard pressed to believe that Southerners are "taking over" in the way that he implies. Perhaps he is projecting about Ohio's relative loss  of power and influence. However, I don't think anything is happening that's out of line with overall population trends.

 

Let's look at the well known "stars" of the recent GOP:

Romney - a Utah/Massachusetts Mormon

Jindal - a Catholic, East Indian "cajun" educated in the Ivy League and Oxford.

Palin - a flag-bearer for rural culture, but an Alaskan (with an accent more Midwestern than Southern, I might add)

Guiliani - New York City personified

Huckabee - Southern, but probably out of politics b/c of the TV show.

McCain - Arizona.

 

So yeah. This Southerner doesn't buy it.

 

 

 

The House minority leader is from Ohio.  Geez, George. 

 

"We got too many Jim DeMints and Tom Coburns, it's the Southerners….

 

"They get on TV and go 'errrr, errrrr. People hear them and say, 'These people, they're Southerners. The party's being taken over by Southerners. What they hell they got to do with Ohio?'"

 

 

I just realized that this sounds like something Nigel Tufnel from Spinal Tap would say.

You've got to include the real Southern kingmaker in that list - Haley Barbour of Mississippi. In general, as a GOPer I find it depressing that the party has essentially become the old Southern Democrats with the negatives and benefits that situation brings.

 

FWIW, when the Democrats controlled the South solid, they elected a New Yorker (Cleveland), a New Jerseyite (who was actually a racist Virginian, Wilson), another New Yorker (FDR), a Missouran (Truman), and a Massachusettan (JFK). When the South was contested, they elected three Southerners (LBJ, Carter, and Clinton). When it returned to rump status across the aisle, they elected a guy from Chicago.

 

The GOP in contrast, elected a bunch of northerners until the South came into play and then picked two Californians (Nixon and Reagan), and two nominal Texans - though each could easily be claimed by New England (but actually the Bushes originally made their money in Ohio).

But I think Boehner represents all that is Southern about SW Ohio.

In general, as a GOPer I find it depressing that the party has essentially become the old Southern Democrats with the negatives and benefits that situation brings.

 

Heh. Yet another Cincinnati-area Republican on UO. 

God I love it when politicians talk off-the-cuff. This just made my day.

^Me. At least he was being real with himself.

 

The House minority leader is from Ohio.  Geez, George.

 

I have to wonder, was he including John Boehner as a Southerner?

 

I've always been under the impression that everything below the Ohio Turnpike is the South....isn't it  :?

before anyone submits another one of their giddy eulogies of the Republican Party, perhaps a reality check is in order :wink::

 

http://old.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=16&issue=20090807

 

Popularity Of GOP Candidates Hints At Growing Dem Unease

 

BY JED GRAHAM

INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

Posted 8/7/2009

 

 

before anyone submits another one of their giddy eulogies of the Republican Party, perhaps a reality check is in order

 

I recall the "eulogies"on the GOP after Watergate, too.  Rumors of demise proved greatly exgerrated!.

 

I think they will pick up seats during the midterms as that is usually the case.  If 2006 and 2008 were housecleaning elections, essentially referendums on the GOP, the seats picked up by Dems are probably competitve once the reasons for GOP unpopularity went away.

 

 

 

 

 

What issue are they running on:  Birth certificates? 

^

well, yes, if the GOP is the "southern" party.

The country didn't change that much between 2005 and 2009. Bush and the rest of the GOP imploded. But conservatism as an ideology is holding the same percentages it did before. We are still roughly a fifty-fifty country the question is whether each party is capable of holding onto its half, the GOP wasn't for awhile, but that doesn't mean there is broad ideological support for anything much past the center left or right.

Well said.

The country didn't change that much between 2005 and 2009.

 

Well it kind of did change...the demographic shift in America is startling and doesn't seem to bode well for the GOP as this stage in the game.  Hispanics accounted for 50% of the growth in the U.S. since 2000.  About 67% of Hispanics voted for Obama in 2008, and I don't see this trend changing anytime soon with nothing happening on the immigration front and the recent gamesmanship over the Sotomayor seating.

 

The GOP just doesn't sit well with pretty much any minority population in American right now...and given the fact that those are the populations growing at the quickest rates, the GOP should be somewhat concerned.

However, the speed of that change is almost entirely loaded into the 01-05 period. With each passing year, Hispanic migration has decreased with moderate repatriation by foreign nationals in the last couple years. Also, all straight line demographic political predictions only make the predictor look like a fool within a cycle or two.

The salary doesn't seem out of line with the size of the budget they'll be managing or the scope of activities that they will have to take on. A president of a corporation of the same size would likely realize more money than this in just productivity incentives; a person that makes the activities of this agency transparent to the public, solicits public feedback, identifies innovative processes for assembling land and/or for redeveloping or clearing it and that can identify and secure multiple revenue streams to support its activities ... absolutely, they deserve that pay IMHO.

 

That being said, it will be interesting to see if Frangos is ultimately the right person for the job. It is not unusual for an individual within county government to assume leadership of a new agency (given their existing awareness of current county administrative practices, etc.), help set it up and then leave after a year or two when the group is on solid feet. Cuyahoga Arts & Culture experienced a similar leadership in its first couple years. That being said, ultimately I would hope the Land Bank would have a national search for its long-term leadership.

Rift divides local Tea Party groups

By LINDA MARTZ • News Journal • September 19, 2009

 

MANSFIELD -- When it comes to political goals, the two Tea Party groups holding rallies in the Mansfield area aren't exactly each other's cup of ... well, you know.

 

One group, the Mansfield Tea Party Patriots, focuses strictly on promoting three principles it says stem back two centuries to the Boston Tea Party -- limited government, fiscal responsibility and free market capitalism.

 

The other, the Mansfield North Central Tea Party Association, brings religion to the forefront at its rallies and on its Web site. It bills itself as the only nonpartisan Tea Party group in Mansfield.

 

Read more at mansfieldnewsjournal.com

Yeah, Jesus would have favored guns and barred immigrants, too.  :sarcasm:

 

The Mansfield North Central Tea Party Association believes Christ is the center of everything it does, Oleksa said.

 

"We also do social issues, including the Constitution, the Second Amendment, veterans issues, illegal immigration and abortion," she said. "We do taxes."

 

"Render unto Caesar that which belongs to Caesar"

Residents Asked To Help Plan City's Future

Budget Deficit Shouldn't Stop Long-Term Plans, Residents Say

 

http://www.wlwt.com/video/21212197/

http://www.wlwt.com/money/21211611/detail.html

 

Officials with the city of Cincinnati are meeting with resident to get ideas about how the city should grow.

Many said they believe the riverfront is the future of the city.

Officials said the key is going to be figuring out how to build in a way that pleases neighbors, and doesn't bankrupt the city.

Officials: Voting Ballots Had False Information

By Jenell Walton, WCPO-9, October 7, 2009

 

Hamilton County Board of Elections is investigating a case of attempted voter fraud. The board says someone turned in absentee ballot applications using false information. The names and addresses were correct, but the social security numbers, and signatures didn't match.

Fraud investigation continues on casino ballot issue

 

FieldWorks, a Washington, D.C.-based political organization that was hired by those advocating for a casino in Ohio, has resigned from the Ohio Jobs and Growth Campaign. The resignation comes during a Hamilton County grand jury investigation into absentee ballot fraud.

 

The Ohio Jobs and Growth Committee had hired FieldWorks to campaign and canvass Ohio voters for Issue 3, which would allow a casino in each of Ohio's largest cities: Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland and Toledo.

 

Click through to read the remainder.

DAYTON — Challenger Gary Leitzell defeated incumbent Mayor Rhine McLin on Tuesday in the race for Dayton’s next mayor.

 

According to final, unofficial totals from the Montgomery County Board of Elections, Leitzell had 51.5 percent of the votes to 48.5 percent for McLin, a Democrat. That amounted to 14,923 votes for Leitzell and 14,045 for McLin.

 

McLin was seeking a third term as mayor. Leitzell, running as an independent, is chairman of the Southeast Priority Board and a new voice in Dayton politics.

 

source

(and read the comments)

 

There was a lot of discontent around McLin due to the decline of Dayton.  One of the key moments in this campaign might have been the African-American ministers association refusing to endorse McLin (they didn't endorse her opponent, either).

 

This was a change election similar to Obama's.

 

 

 

 

 

Honestly, it doesn't matter if it was McLin or Gary Leitzell.  The way Dayton is politically structured, good luck in getting any of these ideas off the ground.  Though I think Gary Leitzell seems like a good-hearted person and I hope he does great things.

I had a lot of admiration for what he's done with the old Edgar place, and that he was active in neighborhood groups and such.  Very grassroots. 

 

But, yeah, there are real structural problems with the local political system.

What sort of changes are needed in Dayton's political structure?

http://www.hulu.com/embed/x53YTkRrsZUR1y-Kts8_Ng

Awesome, I am so proud of Mansfield! That's where the true patriots live. lol.

Don't call them "tea-baggers"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tea-bagger

Boreal, people call them that to make fun of them.

I'm just glad they don't wear those silly white sheets anymore.

What a wonderfully tolerant thread.

I'm just kidding Seth! Sorry if I offend.

What a wonderfully tolerant thread.

 

I'll be sure to note that in the Obama Presidency thread.