October 25, 20222 yr They both have many beautiful old buildings, but both also have that dead-sunbelt-downtown look, which I find depressing.
October 25, 20222 yr Riverside's downtown is far better than San Bernardino's but I agree that for secondary nodes in Southern California they are quite underwhelming. They, at the very least, should be Fort Lauderdale or WPB. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 25, 20222 yr looks nice enough — and typical for out there. it just reminds me how i like to visit cali, but i would never live there. well, maybe way up around arcata bay in the far nw, i did like that a lot. naaah.
October 27, 20222 yr It's unbelievable how underutilized so many of the older downtowns are in SoCal. Given how crazy the real estate market is there and how sprawly it is, you'd assume there'd be some demand for creating vibrant dense walkable town centers throughout suburban SoCal. These cities have great potential but there doesn't seem to be much life in them.
October 28, 20222 yr I'm still not sure who would live in Riverside or SB unless they absolutely had to. It's always reminded me of a land of outcasts.
October 28, 20222 yr San Bernardino's dilapidation began with lower-income residents moving out there from LA County in the 90's and early 2000's. Much like how inner-ring Midwest/Eastern US suburbia has started to fall due to higher-priced counties pushing out lower-income folks, San Bernardino has seen economic demographics shift quite sharply. I'd argue Riverside is more like Santa Ana, a historic nice downtown that's doing okay. Is it Pasadena or Santa Monica? No. Is it better than SB or Lancaster (CA)? Without question, yes. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 28, 20222 yr Author ^Agreed. Riverside does feel more comparable to Santa Ana, and has a number of solid neighborhoods.
October 29, 20222 yr I live in LA and have had occasion to visit SB and Riverside over the years. They are both places I would never want to live. Ever. If I had to pick a place that far (almost) inland where it is crazy hot, I’d pick Claremont: nice, walkable downtown with the Claremont colleges adding some life. Lots of great Craftsman style houses as well. And an art house movie theater, surprisingly.
November 3, 20222 yr Thanks for the pics of Riverside, my original home. "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
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