September 12, 2024Sep 12 9 hours ago, ryanlammi said: Sending a message is voting for the only other candidate who can win. No, because that doesn't distinguish you from someone who was going to vote Democratic (or Sherrod Brown specifically) no matter what. Writing in Dolan sends a message that your vote was there to be had but not to be taken for granted. Of course if you actually support Sherrod over any competitive Republican candidate in the primary, then obviously that's your decision and you're not the audience for this--but I was responding to E Rocc.
September 12, 2024Sep 12 55 minutes ago, Gramarye said: No, because that doesn't distinguish you from someone who was going to vote Democratic (or Sherrod Brown specifically) no matter what. Writing in Dolan sends a message that your vote was there to be had but not to be taken for granted. Of course if you actually support Sherrod over any competitive Republican candidate in the primary, then obviously that's your decision and you're not the audience for this--but I was responding to E Rocc. How does voting for the only opponent not send a bigger message? If Sherrod Brown outperforms Harris by 8 points and wins, that's what they care about. They're looking at trends, and did the candidate they nominated for The US Senate win. Writing in someone who isn't on the ballot or abstaining has a 1 vote change by decreasing the total votes for Moreno. Voting for the opposition reduces the candidates vote total by 1 AND increases the opponent's vote total by 1. That is certainly a bigger message. The Republican candidate losing in a red state sends a huge message that he was a flawed and unpopular candidate. And I know who you were talking to. If you didn't want other people to respond to this, you should've sent him a private message.
September 12, 2024Sep 12 8 hours ago, ryanlammi said: How does voting for the only opponent not send a bigger message? I already answered that. It sends no message to fail to distinguish yourself from a progressive activist whose vote was always out of reach. Though the margin between Brown and Harris could indeed be meaningful (as could a hypothetical margin between Trump and Moreno, of course).
September 12, 2024Sep 12 10 hours ago, Gramarye said: No, because that doesn't distinguish you from someone who was going to vote Democratic (or Sherrod Brown specifically) no matter what. Writing in Dolan sends a message that your vote was there to be had but not to be taken for granted. Of course if you actually support Sherrod over any competitive Republican candidate in the primary, then obviously that's your decision and you're not the audience for this--but I was responding to E Rocc. If I wrote in anyone, it would be Frank LaRose. He was my state senator when I lived in sprawlburbia and I thought he did a good job. A sane libertarian would also be an option. I haven't looked too deeply into his record, but Sherrod has always struck me as someone sensible, albeit in the wrong direction. I know he's worked well with the GOP Ohio senators, even Vance. There is something to be said for encouraging such. Of course I could be convinced he's not so sensible but it won't be by Moreno's people.
September 12, 2024Sep 12 10 hours ago, ryanlammi said: That is certainly a bigger message. The Republican candidate losing in a red state sends a huge message that he was a flawed and unpopular candidate. Moreno should already be a flawed and unpopular candidate. The State of Ohio voters already uphead abortion rights here. Moreno will be the guy that votes with Trump to enact a national abortion ban and override the will of the people.
September 15, 2024Sep 15 Republican US Senate candidate Moreno backs deporting legal Haitian immigrants in Ohio The Statehouse News Bureau | By Sarah Donaldson Published September 14, 2024 Bernie Moreno, the Trump-backed Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Ohio, visited Springfield on Saturday morning and said he believes its semi recent influx of Haitian immigrants is a “total disgrace.” ... “I worry more about an administration that's allowed 10 to 12 million people to come here illegally. If they could get here,” Moreno said, “We could get them out.” The comments came, too, as the Springfield Police Department and community members fielded a third day of bomb threats and related evacuations. https://www.ideastream.org/2024-09-14/republican-us-senate-candidate-moreno-backs-deporting-legal-haitian-immigrants-in-ohio
September 15, 2024Sep 15 In a state that is either losing or remaining stagnant in population (depending on the year you look at), the GOP leadership is trying to send new people away? Sounds like we need different leadership.
September 15, 2024Sep 15 2 hours ago, Luke_S said: Republican US Senate candidate Moreno backs deporting legal Haitian immigrants in Ohio The Statehouse News Bureau | By Sarah Donaldson Published September 14, 2024 Bernie Moreno, the Trump-backed Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Ohio, visited Springfield on Saturday morning and said he believes its semi recent influx of Haitian immigrants is a “total disgrace.” ... “I worry more about an administration that's allowed 10 to 12 million people to come here illegally. If they could get here,” Moreno said, “We could get them out.” The comments came, too, as the Springfield Police Department and community members fielded a third day of bomb threats and related evacuations. https://www.ideastream.org/2024-09-14/republican-us-senate-candidate-moreno-backs-deporting-legal-haitian-immigrants-in-ohio I swear the maniacs are just begging for a formal military occupation and deprogramming/deNazification.
September 15, 2024Sep 15 3 hours ago, Luke_S said: Republican US Senate candidate Moreno backs deporting legal Haitian immigrants in Ohio The Statehouse News Bureau | By Sarah Donaldson Published September 14, 2024 Bernie Moreno, the Trump-backed Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Ohio, visited Springfield on Saturday morning and said he believes its semi recent influx of Haitian immigrants is a “total disgrace.” ... “I worry more about an administration that's allowed 10 to 12 million people to come here illegally. If they could get here,” Moreno said, “We could get them out.” The comments came, too, as the Springfield Police Department and community members fielded a third day of bomb threats and related evacuations. https://www.ideastream.org/2024-09-14/republican-us-senate-candidate-moreno-backs-deporting-legal-haitian-immigrants-in-ohio Even for a politician this guy is a major league hypocrite. I'm afraid the Peter Thiel playbook of acting like a dumb reactionary a-hole is just going to be the new normal for how to get elected in Ohio.
September 15, 2024Sep 15 3 hours ago, Luke_S said: Republican US Senate candidate Moreno backs deporting legal Haitian immigrants in Ohio The Statehouse News Bureau | By Sarah Donaldson Published September 14, 2024 Bernie Moreno, the Trump-backed Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Ohio, visited Springfield on Saturday morning and said he believes its semi recent influx of Haitian immigrants is a “total disgrace.” ... “I worry more about an administration that's allowed 10 to 12 million people to come here illegally. If they could get here,” Moreno said, “We could get them out.” The comments came, too, as the Springfield Police Department and community members fielded a third day of bomb threats and related evacuations. https://www.ideastream.org/2024-09-14/republican-us-senate-candidate-moreno-backs-deporting-legal-haitian-immigrants-in-ohio Immigrant calls for the deportation of legal immigrants. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
September 16, 2024Sep 16 17 hours ago, Boomerang_Brian said: Immigrant calls for the deportation of legal immigrants. Who were let in on some sort of emergency exception and do not have permanent residence.
September 16, 2024Sep 16 52 minutes ago, E Rocc said: Who were let in on some sort of emergency exception and do not have permanent residence. Maybe they should all get Einstein Visas like Melania Knauss? How do we know all these immigrants don't excel in the international canine and feline culinary worlds? Up is down....
September 16, 2024Sep 16 54 minutes ago, E Rocc said: Who were let in on some sort of emergency exception and do not have permanent residence. Temporary but legally. Meanwhile Vance admits he made the story up; local residents say the Haitian migrants are good students, workers, and neighbors; and primary schools and government buildings have to be closed and colleges shifted from in-person to online courses because of continued threats of violence in response to the stories Vance and Trump platformed without evidence.
September 16, 2024Sep 16 3 hours ago, E Rocc said: Who were let in on some sort of emergency exception and do not have permanent residence. They're here under a Trump era immigration plan and have protected refugee status because of it.
September 16, 2024Sep 16 Strange I never saw this talk during the Ukrainian resettlement program. Ya know, another war-torn country where people are fleeing violence. I wonder why... "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 16, 2024Sep 16 Staffer for Ohio US Senate candidate Bernie Moreno resigns following confrontation with police during arrest of another campaign aide Colton Henson resigned as political adviser to Moreno's campaign after a newspaper published video showing him arguing with and swearing at police officers.
September 16, 2024Sep 16 4 hours ago, E Rocc said: Who were let in on some sort of emergency exception and do not have permanent residence. That doesn't support Moreno's position, though. Nor does it support Vance or Trump's position of making up vile claims about them that are currently causing terroristic threats against the people of Springfield. Edited September 16, 2024Sep 16 by jonoh81
September 24, 2024Sep 24 Does Bernie know women vote? Quote “You know, the left has a lot of single issue voters,” Moreno said. “Sadly, by the way, there’s a lot of suburban women, a lot of suburban women that are like, ‘Listen, abortion is it. If I can’t have an abortion in this country whenever I want, I will vote for anybody else.’ … OK. It’s a little crazy by the way, but — especially for women that are like past 50 — I’m thinking to myself, ‘I don’t think that’s an issue for you.'” https://www.nbc4i.com/news/your-local-election-hq/bernie-moreno-says-women-are-single-issue-voters-for-abortion-during-ohio-town-hall/
September 25, 2024Sep 25 Or that people vote not only for their own personal self-interest but for the betterment of society?? Sometimes I think Republicans can't grasp that concept. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 25, 2024Sep 25 22 hours ago, Pablo said: Does Bernie know women vote? https://www.nbc4i.com/news/your-local-election-hq/bernie-moreno-says-women-are-single-issue-voters-for-abortion-during-ohio-town-hall/ So -- and I understand it's stupid to even pretend these maniacs follow logic -- this dodgy f-ck believes women shouldn't worry about abortion if they're over 50? That's for men to decide instead. Wonderful. Makes total sense. Some day we will need mass MAGA deprogramming for these broken f-cks (with or without occupation), and scum like him is first in line. Why there aren't riots in the street after Dobbs I still don't understand. Moreno, et al, won that battle, but there really should have been a more visceral response.
September 25, 2024Sep 25 5 hours ago, KJP said: Or that people vote not only for their own personal self-interest but for the betterment of society?? Sometimes I think Republicans can't grasp that concept. Sometimes? It's their entire platform from the micro to macro level.
September 25, 2024Sep 25 40 minutes ago, w28th said: Sometimes? It's their entire platform from the micro to macro level. There was a story in the NYTimes that interviewed some retired teachers in Pennsylvania who have voted Republican almost every election, but call themselves "undecided" right now. After the debate they were upset that Kamala Harris didn't specify any policies that would help them personally. They didn't care that she outlined ideas to help new parents with a tax credit or that she outlined a plan to help first time homebuyers. They didn't care that these programs would help other people who need it. If anything, they thought it was bad because it would cost money and they wouldn't personally benefit from it. Many people are very selfish.
September 25, 2024Sep 25 1 hour ago, ryanlammi said: There was a story in the NYTimes that interviewed some retired teachers in Pennsylvania who have voted Republican almost every election, but call themselves "undecided" right now. After the debate they were upset that Kamala Harris didn't specify any policies that would help them personally. They didn't care that she outlined ideas to help new parents with a tax credit or that she outlined a plan to help first time homebuyers. They didn't care that these programs would help other people who need it. If anything, they thought it was bad because it would cost money and they wouldn't personally benefit from it. Many people are very selfish. they absolutely are, always been that way. I listened to that episode of The Daily which played back that conversation. Their concerns are valid, but god damn, they (and the other undecideds on that episode) were just like "tell me how you're going to help me, our fixed income is not growing fast enough." The god da** campaign website has a section on SS and Medicare... It's 2 sentences she has that spell out her and her contrast to Trump on the issue of Social Security. That's 2 minutes out of your busy day scrolling on Facebook. Why does Kamala have to tell you and only via very specific mediums that are served to you? Why are you voting if you don't know what the candidates are even standing for? Are you perhaps still in a bygone era when R meant lower taxes and "leave me alone"? Yes, yes you are. All that anger aside, people are programmed to be R's. De-programing is difficult, and you can hear it in their voices when you listen to the episode.
October 10, 2024Oct 10 Minor kerfuffle between Brown and Moreno supporters in front of the Franklin County Board of Elections, other comments by both candidates, and this gem: Quote Moreno also took a shot at the northern Columbus neighborhood of Clintonville, mostly Democratic. He described driving into the area during a ride-along with Columbus police: “It wasn't such a happy reception," he said "It shows you the disconnect between the people who are these elites that think that the police are bad.” Later he claimed, “They hate the police in Clintonville.” https://abc6onyourside.com/news/election/sherrod-brown-bernie-moreno-clash-in-rallies-two-hours-apart-in-columbus-ohio-us-senat-election-ballot-november-voting#
October 10, 2024Oct 10 30 minutes ago, Pablo said: Minor kerfuffle between Brown and Moreno supporters in front of the Franklin County Board of Elections, other comments by both candidates, and this gem: https://abc6onyourside.com/news/election/sherrod-brown-bernie-moreno-clash-in-rallies-two-hours-apart-in-columbus-ohio-us-senat-election-ballot-november-voting# Clintonville, Central Ohio's capital of asking to see the manager, doesn't seem all that anti-police to me. Moreno is an idiot. Edited October 10, 2024Oct 10 by jonoh81
October 20, 2024Oct 20 Finally, a brave Republican who cares more about country over party... Former Ohio Gov. Bob Taft, a Republican: “I believe Ohioans very much need a highly effective, experienced advocate in the U.S. Senate – someone who is squarely focused on both Ohio’s and America’s needs. This is the kind of leader Sherrod Brown has been.” https://www.daytondailynews.com/ideas-voices/voices-one-vote-for-sherrod-brown/FCBQW3SBFVCFXBRJK5LWTMN4SA/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 20, 2024Oct 20 21 minutes ago, KJP said: Finally, a brave Republican who cares more about country over party... Former Ohio Gov. Bob Taft, a Republican: “I believe Ohioans very much need a highly effective, experienced advocate in the U.S. Senate – someone who is squarely focused on both Ohio’s and America’s needs. This is the kind of leader Sherrod Brown has been.” https://www.daytondailynews.com/ideas-voices/voices-one-vote-for-sherrod-brown/FCBQW3SBFVCFXBRJK5LWTMN4SA/ I don't know how effective such endorsements from mainstream GOP leaders are these days. Hopefully with independents, but the current Republican base seems to hate moderate Republicans, an endangered species, as much as they hate Democrats. I wonder how somebody like George Vonivich would do against JD Vance in a Republican primary race for the Senate today.
October 20, 2024Oct 20 3 hours ago, Htsguy said: I wonder how somebody like George Vonivich would do against JD Vance in a Republican primary race for the Senate today. You already knew the answer to that question before you even typed it. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 20, 2024Oct 20 1 hour ago, GCrites said: Vonoivich would have an -I next to his name today. I know some of his family and they all despise Trump
October 21, 2024Oct 21 3 hours ago, YABO713 said: I know some of his family and they all despise Trump And Moreno?
October 21, 2024Oct 21 On 10/10/2024 at 1:28 PM, jonoh81 said: Clintonville, Central Ohio's capital of asking to see the manager, doesn't seem all that anti-police to me. Moreno is an idiot. A lot of karens are the types that hate the cops until they need one.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 2 hours ago, E Rocc said: A lot of karens are the types that hate the cops until they need one. A lot of Republicans are the types that hate the government until they need help, such as in recovering from hurricanes.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 LET'S GET BACK ON TOPIC INSTEAD OF POINTING OUT THIS NEW, BLEEDING EDGE THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE ARE, IN FACT OFTEN HYPOCRITICAL
October 21, 2024Oct 21 IMO Sherrod's done a reasonably good job of defusing the various trans issues, and I say that as someone who's not exactly sympathetic to the concept in general. Illegal immigration not so much, but there's time.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 8 minutes ago, E Rocc said: IMO Sherrod's done a reasonably good job of defusing the various trans issues, and I say that as someone who's not exactly sympathetic to the concept in general. Illegal immigration not so much, but there's time. Can I ask, how do you square the proposed mass deportation of potentially tens of millions of people from the US, a plan that Moreno supports, with the reality that with very low and falling birthrates, low unemployment and a rapidly-aging population, the jobs performed by those millions of people cannot be realistically replaced with a native workforce? How exactly do you manage to avoid crashing the economy and skyrocketing inflation due to labor and service shortages across the board? Would it not make much more sense to provide a path to legalization for the vast majority who are not violent criminals and who would otherwise be productive citizens? Or are you simply a nationalist opposed to immigration entirely, and the potential economic consequences- let alone the humanitarian ones- are inconsequential to the goal of a whiter, native-exclusive nation? Edited October 21, 2024Oct 21 by jonoh81
October 21, 2024Oct 21 5 minutes ago, jonoh81 said: Can I ask, how do you square the proposed mass deportation of potentially tens of millions of people from the US, a plan that Moreno supports, with the reality that with very low and falling birthrates, low unemployment and a rapidly-aging population, the jobs performed by those millions of people cannot be realistically replaced with a native workforce? How exactly do you manage to avoid crashing the economy and skyrocketing inflation due to labor and service shortages across the board? Would it not make much more sense to provide a path to legalization for the vast majority who are not violent criminals and who would otherwise be productive citizens? Or are you simply a nationalist opposed to immigration entirely, and the potential economic consequences- let alone the humanitarian ones- are inconsequential to the goal of a whiter, native-exclusive nation? Not to mention the legal immigrants in the country that would undoubtedly be swept up in a mass deportation campaign without any semblance of due process.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 Just now, jonoh81 said: Can I ask, how do you square the proposed mass deportation of potentially tens of millions of people from the US, a plan that Moreno supports, with the reality that with very low and falling birthrates, low unemployment and a rapidly-aging population, the jobs performed by those millions of people cannot be realistically replaced with a native workforce? How exactly do you manage to avoid crashing the economy and skyrocketing inflation due to labor and service shortages across the board? Would it not make much more sense to provide a path to legalization for the vast majority who are not violent criminals and who would otherwise be productive citizens? Or are you simply a nationalist opposed to immigration entirely? I'd make legal immigration a lot easier, but screen and add requirements designed to encourage assimilation, at least long term. People who already have the American mindset. People who will contribute, not absorb "services". I don't favor unlimited and unscreened mass immigration. Especially if the goal is to convert the American population into something more deferential and obedient to those in power. I definitely see the former, and I suspect the reason is the latter. We're doing immigration right when other nations are complaining that we are taking their best people.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 58 minutes ago, E Rocc said: We're doing immigration right when other nations are complaining that we are taking their best people. That's already the case. Third world brain drain is a major issue in much of the world. 59 minutes ago, E Rocc said: I'd make legal immigration a lot easier, but screen and add requirements designed to encourage assimilation, at least long term. People who already have the American mindset. People who will contribute, not absorb "services". I don't favor unlimited and unscreened mass immigration. Especially if the goal is to convert the American population into something more deferential and obedient to those in power. I definitely see the former, and I suspect the reason is the latter. What is the official American Mindset? It seems to me that you are the one wanting to bring in immigrants that are deferential and obedient to your particular ideals.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 Without immigrants to do our blue collar work there won't be any white collar work. Not even for H1-Bs.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 3 hours ago, E Rocc said: I'd make legal immigration a lot easier, but screen and add requirements designed to encourage assimilation, at least long term. People who already have the American mindset. People who will contribute, not absorb "services". I don't favor unlimited and unscreened mass immigration. Especially if the goal is to convert the American population into something more deferential and obedient to those in power. I definitely see the former, and I suspect the reason is the latter. We're doing immigration right when other nations are complaining that we are taking their best people. The US immigration vetting process is arguably already extremely thorough and one of the strictest in the world, so I'm not sure what you mean by screen and add requirements. What requirements? And how exactly would you encourage assimilation? US immigrants already follow typical patterns when it comes to longer-term assimilation. And because US culture is such a melting pot, what would "assimilation" even mean? Okay, but we don't have unlimited and unscreened mass immigration as it is, at least not in terms of undocumented immigration. And you didn't really answer whether you would support a path to legalization with the existing undocumented after a vetting process. Neither Moreno nor Trump support one, and the current anti-immigrant rhetoric has not been limited to the undocumented alone, but increasingly all immigration. And like with less extreme mass deportation efforts, legal immigrants and even natives would likely accidentally be deported. Okay, but the US has long been taking much of the world's best people in many industries, so that wouldn't be anything new. I feel like you largely sidestepped the questions I was asking. If we followed the current Trump/Moreno/GOP plan on immigration, the number of immigrants coming in would be very low to non-existent, so there would still end up being a significant labor shortage across many industries. How would that be rectified if there isn't a population to fill those positions? And if you're more open to making legal immigration much easier, why would you be voting for people who want to make it significantly harder or end legal immigration altogether?
October 21, 2024Oct 21 Trump's plan for immigration is the same as his plan for healthcare. He doesn't have one, and the one thing he says he'll do, will actually make the situation worse. The Trump/MAGA crowd have no real solutions. They just want to fearmonger to get votes.
October 21, 2024Oct 21 4 hours ago, X said: What is the official American Mindset? It seems to me that you are the one wanting to bring in immigrants that are deferential and obedient to your particular ideals. The great thing about immigration is that you bring in people who look at things differently and might be able to find different solutions to problems. Only bringing in people who think exactly the same way does not strengthen our country.
October 23, 2024Oct 23 how is this even a dead heat? its just more sad. — "Egregious lies": Dark money groups flood most expensive Senate race with "disinformation" Mitch McConnell-allied PAC, crypto donors "flooding" airwaves in Ohio race between Sherrod Brown and Bernie Moreno By TATYANA TANDANPOLIE Staff Writer PUBLISHED OCTOBER 22, 2024 Ohio's dead-heat Senate race has become the nation's most expensive, with nearly $500 million spent on ads in this race alone — and more spending expected ahead of Election Day. more: https://www.salon.com/2024/10/22/egregious-lies-dark-money-groups-flood-most-expensive-senate-race-with-disinformation/
October 23, 2024Oct 23 3 hours ago, mrnyc said: how is this even a dead heat? its just more sad. — "Egregious lies": Dark money groups flood most expensive Senate race with "disinformation" Mitch McConnell-allied PAC, crypto donors "flooding" airwaves in Ohio race between Sherrod Brown and Bernie Moreno By TATYANA TANDANPOLIE Staff Writer PUBLISHED OCTOBER 22, 2024 Ohio's dead-heat Senate race has become the nation's most expensive, with nearly $500 million spent on ads in this race alone — and more spending expected ahead of Election Day. more: https://www.salon.com/2024/10/22/egregious-lies-dark-money-groups-flood-most-expensive-senate-race-with-disinformation/ FWIW, I have a couple acquaintances in the Moreno camp - they're buying the polling manipulation too. Had drinks with one last Thursday and he told us "in actuality it's probably closer to +2 for Sherrod" Their hope is driving voter engagement by saying "this is winnable if you just show up"
October 23, 2024Oct 23 I'm very suspect of polling manipulation arguments, in part because I want to believe the polling in Ohio is wrong--due to herding, skewing, or some other manipulation--and wanting something to be true is reason enough to think it may not be. But Sherrod can fight gravity for only so long as split ticket voters become more and more rare... though looks like we'll see Arizona voters split their votes between President and Senate and depending which way Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania go those three states are candidates for splitting Presidential and Senate votes as well. There isn't consistent polling in Ohio though and maybe some questions around demographic shifts and whether Ohio's voter realignment was largely complete in 2016 (or by 2020 at least) or if that is still underway and how pollster's assumptions about these changes affect the weighting of their polls.
October 24, 2024Oct 24 On 10/23/2024 at 6:37 AM, YABO713 said: FWIW, I have a couple acquaintances in the Moreno camp - they're buying the polling manipulation too. Had drinks with one last Thursday and he told us "in actuality it's probably closer to +2 for Sherrod" Their hope is driving voter engagement by saying "this is winnable if you just show up" I expect Sherrod to win by 2-5%, the number going a little higher if it looks like Justice (a lock) and Tester (likely) are going to win and the Senate will go Republican. There is zero enthusiasm for Moreno on his own, it's all spillover from Trump. On the other hand, there's not a lot of enthusiasm against Sherrod. The antipathy is nowhere near as high as Kamala's, the difference is about an order of magnitude. He's seen as honest by politician standards and he is seen as being dedicated to the state. Low enthusiasm elections tend to favor incumbents. The irony is if it's close they could both end up in the Senate, with Moreno being appointed to Vance's seat. I definitely expect that to happen, though I would prefer Dolan or LaRose.
October 25, 2024Oct 25 9 hours ago, E Rocc said: I expect Sherrod to win by 2-5%, the number going a little higher if it looks like Justice (a lock) and Tester (likely) are going to win and the Senate will go Republican. I’m not sure if you are saying Tester is likely to win, but unfortunately he only has about a 5% shot at winning reelection at this point. Florida and Texas are both significantly more likely to go blue in the Senate, and even the independent in Nebraska has a better shot of winning than Tester. (Not favored, just more likely than Tester.) When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
