His new house is right by my parents - I just drove by last week and saw worker trucks outside.  They must be doing a complete overhaul.

 

Must be my cousin saw that in mid October or Mid November, I can't remember which.  But that has to be one hell of a reno, if it started last year.

^Yes this is my point. How about the new ballroom at the CC. It just seems for all that Cle went thru with the shoot, it should benefit from the party.

 

They need a large venue with proper acoustics and light control. The CC doesn't have the equipment you'd get in a modern theater, Tower City might, but their facilities are third rate.

His new house is right by my parents - I just drove by last week and saw worker trucks outside.  They must be doing a complete overhaul.

 

Must be my cousin saw that in mid October or Mid November, I can't remember which.  But that has to be one hell of a reno, if it started last year.

 

It was supposed to be done by now.  But it is a very old house with a lot of detail and he is taking the "get it right" approach over speed.

Here's the Michael Symon video. Had some good looking shots of E 4th and the downtown skyline. http://abc.go.com/shows/the-chew/video/most-recent/_m_VDKA0_2j6dhffu

 

Nice piece.  I like Michael and think he carries the Cleveland banner well... btw, he's an ex-pat.  I understand he's a North Olmsted kid but has fled for greener pastures... the East Side and Shaker!

 

 

They live in Cleveland Heights.  My cousin saw them renovating in October/November.

 

Dayum, thought we had him... I would guess he's probably in the southern section of CH; those old mansions in/around Fairmount and the Shaker Lakes area... I hear he pops up at the Eton B-Spot often...

 

Speaking of Cleveland Heights, did anyone see "Fun Size" with my girl (playing totally out of character as the mom) Chelsea Handler?  I understand it was filmed totally on location in around CH, esp Coventry.  It was a teen flick, so I never went to see it, though I thought about it just since it was filmed in C-Town. 

 

I'll check out "Draft Day."  It's sadly so rare that we actually have a movie set in Cleveland when it's actually identified as Cleveland.

 

^Yes this is my point. How about the new ballroom at the CC. It just seems for all that Cle went thru with the shoot, it should benefit from the party.

 

They need a large venue with proper acoustics and light control. The CC doesn't have the equipment you'd get in a modern theater, Tower City might, but their facilities are third rate.

 

Nah they don't need any of that. Nobody is there to see the film, it's an event a fundraiser. So I don't buy it, somebody dropped the ball or maybe the logistics didn't match up somehow.  If PH can hold a high profile event like the RRHOF  induction, they can handle this. And if TowerCity is third rate they wouldn't hold the Cleveland International Film Fest there, it would be at ValleyView.

The movies shown at the international film festival aren't dependent on high end audio visual equipment. Somebody's short story would show just fine on a bedsheet and projector in a backyard party. Fundraiser or not, people actually want to see the movie. And I'm sure the directors want it shown on a high quality setup.

^Yes this is my point. How about the new ballroom at the CC. It just seems for all that Cle went thru with the shoot, it should benefit from the party.

 

They need a large venue with proper acoustics and light control. The CC doesn't have the equipment you'd get in a modern theater, Tower City might, but their facilities are third rate.

 

Nah they don't need any of that. Nobody is there to see the film, it's an event a fundraiser. So I don't buy it, somebody dropped the ball or maybe the logistics didn't match up somehow.  If PH can hold a high profile event like the RRHOF  induction, they can handle this. And if TowerCity is third rate they wouldn't hold the Cleveland International Film Fest there, it would be at ValleyView.

 

The movies shown at the international film festival aren't dependent on high end audio visual equipment. Somebody's short story would show just fine on a bedsheet and projector in a backyard party. Fundraiser or not, people actually want to see the movie. And I'm sure the directors want it shown on a high quality setup.

 

 

Since it is likely nobody here has been to Tower City Cinema in the the past 6 months, let me bring a few things to light.

 

All of the theaters except for one (the one all the way in back up the stairs) has new sound equipment, projectors and screens installed. (http://www.cleveland.com/moviebuff/index.ssf/2014/01/38th_cleveland_international_f.html) Additionally, there is new carpeting being installed, the walls are being repaired and repainted, and a general sprucing up is underway.

 

The Film Festival runs from Wednesday, March 19 through Sunday March 30. A general take down day is done on the day after the last day of the film festival; in this case, Monday, March 31. This includes removing all the festival signs, sponsor signs, rental equipment (chairs, tables, curtains, etc.) The sound and projection company has to take down all of there special equipment brought in every year only for the festival. Think of scenes you may have watched on TV during live sporting events - you know... the control room? This is what it looks like up stairs. Then the another company has to take down all of the staging equipment. Most of it is done within that one day. In fact, TCC is able to show some commercial films again to the public by the afternoon.

 

The premiere of Captain America: Winter Soldier is on Tuesday, April 1.

 

This is just some speculation on my part, but I have a feeling this is why the premier is not being held at Tower City Cinema.

^ I was going to ask about the above.  That seems to make more sense.  I'm sure there also needs to be a good amount of set up of the "Premiere" as well.

 

Bigger question though is why this can't be done at one of the Playhouse Square theaters?  I'm sure there are other events going on, but it isn't like Playhouse can only handle one event at once. 

 

I would also guess that Vally View was slightly cheaper to rent.

^ I was going to ask about the above.  That seems to make more sense.  I'm sure there also needs to be a good amount of set up of the "Premiere" as well.

 

Bigger question though is why this can't be done at one of the Playhouse Square theaters?  I'm sure there are other events going on, but it isn't like Playhouse can only handle one event at once. 

 

I would also guess that Vally View was slightly cheaper to rent.

 

 

Clybourne Park is playing at the Allen Theater, and Flashdance - The Musical is playing at the Palace.

OK Musky thnx for the info. One last thought would be the Capital Theatre before I shut up about it. I would just like to see the restaurants/bars in the city benefit from this party before and after the screening. The Capital would be perfect. But it might be bigger than a local decision as Disney had to give the OK for the premier. Maybe they are tied to Cinemark in someway. idk.

So I guess it's........NewYork/Paris/Beijing/....ValleyView,Oh....

 

Shaker Square Cinemas could have worked.

OK Musky thnx for the info. One last thought would be the Capital Theatre before I shut up about it. I would just like to see the restaurants/bars in the city benefit from this party before and after the screening. The Capital would be perfect. But it might be bigger than a local decision as Disney had to give the OK for the premier. Maybe they are tied to Cinemark in someway. idk.

So I guess it's........NewYork/Paris/Beijing/....ValleyView,Oh....

 

 

 

And one last (possible) answer

 

 

It might have something to do with the over "1,500 influencers" the scene article sited

 

Plus staff, crew, media, safety, parking for all of them and limos, and the whole familiar (but not in Cleveland) red carpet set up we will likely only see on the news

 

 

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2014/02/27/heres-how-much-itll-cost-to-get-into-the-cleveland-premiere-of-captain-america-winter-soldier

^The Adderall seems to be working pretty good for me today 

Since it is likely nobody here has been to Tower City Cinema in the the past 6 months, let me bring a few things to light.

 

All of the theaters except for one (the one all the way in back up the stairs) has new sound equipment, projectors and screens installed. (http://www.cleveland.com/moviebuff/index.ssf/2014/01/38th_cleveland_international_f.html) Additionally, there is new carpeting being installed, the walls are being repaired and repainted, and a general sprucing up is underway.

 

Very cool. I missed that article. In my defense, I was at Tower City before the holidays to watch Hunger Games 2 with the woman. So the theater was third rate until... 1 month ago? :-)

 

OK Musky thnx for the info. One last thought would be the Capital Theatre before I shut up about it. I would just like to see the restaurants/bars in the city benefit from this party before and after the screening. The Capital would be perfect. But it might be bigger than a local decision as Disney had to give the OK for the premier. Maybe they are tied to Cinemark in someway. idk.

So I guess it's........NewYork/Paris/Beijing/....ValleyView,Oh....

 

 

 

And one last (possible) answer

 

 

It might have something to do with the over "1,500 influencers" the scene article sited

 

Plus staff, crew, media, safety, parking for all of them and limos, and the whole familiar (but not in Cleveland) red carpet set up we will likely only see on the news

 

 

http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2014/02/27/heres-how-much-itll-cost-to-get-into-the-cleveland-premiere-of-captain-america-winter-soldier

OK Musky thnx for the info. One last thought would be the Capital Theatre before I shut up about it. I would just like to see the restaurants/bars in the city benefit from this party before and after the screening. The Capital would be perfect. But it might be bigger than a local decision as Disney had to give the OK for the premier. Maybe they are tied to Cinemark in someway. idk.

So I guess it's........NewYork/Paris/Beijing/....ValleyView,Oh....

 

Not sure if you're familiar with what needs to take place or what the production/events people needs are.  Are we aware if the movie theaters mentioned are equiped with the staff to pull off a premiere.  This is a two sided situation.  As our movie and film productions increase the local industry will need to better educate and staff, so that large scale events can be produced on a local level that ensure the greatest impact - socially, financially & local government.

 

I'm sure an "event" like this has moving pieces, as this is something my people would do.  Although, I would stay, I don't know what the Production/Events protocols are for movies Distributor.

 

This is why I said, Playhouse Square, Public Hall/Music Hall should have been considered.  If they were considered and ruled out, let us know why.

 

Not a huge deal, but am I correct that the  Winter Soldier Cleveland premier will be held at Valley View and not at a Cleveland screen? Sounds great! After the film everyone can wander over to the Quaker Steak and Lube instead of all of the great restaurants downtown. #mindboggling

 

That's so stupid. I can't believe the premier will be at Valley View. Is "Draft Day" having a premier here too? If so, please tell me it will be downtown.

Not a huge deal, but am I correct that the  Winter Soldier Cleveland premier will be held at Valley View and not at a Cleveland screen? Sounds great! After the film everyone can wander over to the Quaker Steak and Lube instead of all of the great restaurants downtown. #mindboggling

 

That's so stupid. I can't believe the premier will be at Valley View. Is "Draft Day" having a premier here too? If so, please tell me it will be downtown.

 

I would so do this at the stadium and blow it out of proportion.

I would so do this at the stadium and blow it out of proportion.

 

Great idea -- except that it's a construction site right now.

I would so do this at the stadium and blow it out of proportion.

 

Great idea -- except that it's a construction site right now.

But what will it look like just prior to release?  Think outside the box!

But what will it look like just prior to release?  Think outside the box!

 

The release is next month. Construction has already started and will continue until just before the first preseason games.

 

I do think outside the box. But usually I do it armed with information. {WHAM}

But what will it look like just prior to release?  Think outside the box!

 

The release is next month. Construction has already started and will continue until just before the first preseason games.

 

I do think outside the box. But usually I do it armed with information. {WHAM}

 

RATS!  I didn't look at the release schedule.  Besides I hope it's a flop, for professional reasons.

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

 

What basis do you have to make that statement?  Do you know the production company's requirements for the premiere?  Secondly, why is this a "Cleveland" issue?  Do you have any experience planning a movie premiere?

 

Please answer those questions - considering none of us - know all the facts/reasons for the choice of this location.

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

 

At least you can take the towpath trail there!

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

 

This is a silly comment. What does this have to do with The City of Cleveland? You think the mayor makes this decision? This was a decision, I'm sure, of the movie production company and what, under the circumstances, works best for them.  To chalk it up to some "anti-urban" conspiracy is typically absurd hyperbole.

 

Edit: Just saw the response from MTS which I second.

 

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

 

This is a silly comment. What does this have to do with The City of Cleveland? You think the mayor makes this decision? This was a decision, I'm sure, of the movie production company and what, under the circumstances, works best for them.  To chalk it up to some "anti-urban" conspiracy is typically absurd hyperbole.

 

Edit: Just saw the response from MTS which I second.

 

 

Correction, not the movie's producers but the movie's distributor and the company actually producing the premiere event.

Just saw this is a re-run, but wow Shaker Hts. looks nice! And imagine finding a Chinese vase in your house is 3,000 years old!

 

http://www.cleveland.com/tv-blog/index.ssf/2011/09/shaker_heights_family_featured_on_foxs_buried_treasure.html

 

edit: looks like the family got what they wanted, their kid has med school paid off :-)

Just saw this is a re-run, but wow Shaker Hts. looks nice! And imagine finding a Chinese vase in your house is 3,000 years old!

 

http://www.cleveland.com/tv-blog/index.ssf/2011/09/shaker_heights_family_featured_on_foxs_buried_treasure.html

 

edit: looks like the family got what they wanted, their kid has med school paid off :-)

 

I would kill for that.  There are a lot of homes in the Heights here that have hidden treasures and rooms.  We found two hidden rooms and a safe in our house.  There is also another room in our basement which I've been searching for, for 20+ years.

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

 

That's probably the busiest theater complex in the region.  It's central to a reasonably high population.  Plus, it has lots of parking, and I doubt many people who were going to pay these prices and dress for a premiere event would consider taking RTA to it.

 

Keep in mind that there aren't all that many movie theaters left, which is unsurprising because it's a seriously dated business model.  The same "clout" which keeps the industry relevant (viable, even) likely meant they got to pick the location. 

 

Not a huge deal, but am I correct that the  Winter Soldier Cleveland premier will be held at Valley View and not at a Cleveland screen? Sounds great! After the film everyone can wander over to the Quaker Steak and Lube instead of all of the great restaurants downtown. #mindboggling

 

That's so stupid. I can't believe the premier will be at Valley View. Is "Draft Day" having a premier here too? If so, please tell me it will be downtown.

 

I know the Draft Day screening for local media a few weeks ago was at Valley View.

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

 

That's probably the busiest theater complex in the region.  It's central to a reasonably high population.  Plus, it has lots of parking, and I doubt many people who were going to pay these prices and dress for a premiere event would consider taking RTA to it.

 

Keep in mind that there aren't all that many movie theaters left, which is unsurprising because it's a seriously dated business model.  The same "clout" which keeps the industry relevant (viable, even) likely meant they got to pick the location.

 

Dated?  LOL.  Really?  You know nothing, Jon Snow!

 

How many movie premieres have you overseen?  A movie premier does not have to be a theater complex.  Again, does anyone here know what the needs of the premiere production company as well as the movie distributor?

 

Playhouse Square, Cleveland Playhouse, Public Hall/Music Hall & Tower City all have the capabilities to host this. Nothing in the area is more "central" with ancillary pre and post premiere entertainment infrastructure than downtown.

 

That's probably the busiest theater complex in the region.  It's central to a reasonably high population.  Plus, it has lots of parking, and I doubt many people who were going to pay these prices and dress for a premiere event would consider taking RTA to it.

 

Always to the extremes.... Ya know they have this really cool thing in cities called valet parking.

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

 

That's probably the busiest theater complex in the region.  It's central to a reasonably high population.  Plus, it has lots of parking, and I doubt many people who were going to pay these prices and dress for a premiere event would consider taking RTA to it.

 

 

Really?  How do you explain CIFF in Tower City which is off the charts now in terms of patronage, with large portion of this group coming by train? ...  so much so that: a) CIFF has been posting Rapid info and even maps in their literature for the most recent festivals and, b) RTA has actually been extending service till 1:30a on weekends for late CIFF films... I'm not saying CIFF is necessarily a fancy-shmancy event, but the overwhelming bulk of the festival patrons are suburbanites; esp from East Side burbs, who dare I say, are white and very well heeled.  Most don't dress up, but some do... I might also note that (happily) going downtown, even if by car, is become the cashe thing to do again...

 

... When I go downtown, a most often take the train.  I like others to do so, but don't particularly care how others get there so long as they are there and creating synergy downtown.  The one aspect that has hurt Cleveland so much in recent times, which you reflect E Roc, is this (perceived) convenience, suburbanization of so many retail, business and entertaiment aspects...

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

 

That's probably the busiest theater complex in the region.  It's central to a reasonably high population.  Plus, it has lots of parking, and I doubt many people who were going to pay these prices and dress for a premiere event would consider taking RTA to it.

 

 

Really?  How do you explain CIFF in Tower City which is off the charts now in terms of patronage, with large portion of this group coming by train? ...  so much so that: a) CIFF has been posting Rapid info and even maps in their literature for the most recent festivals and, b) RTA has actually been extending service till 1:30a on weekends for late CIFF films.

 

A major-studio premeire crowd is a lot different. especially when we are talking about a fundraiser.

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

 

That's probably the busiest theater complex in the region.  It's central to a reasonably high population.  Plus, it has lots of parking, and I doubt many people who were going to pay these prices and dress for a premiere event would consider taking RTA to it.

 

 

Really?  How do you explain CIFF in Tower City which is off the charts now in terms of patronage, with large portion of this group coming by train? ...  so much so that: a) CIFF has been posting Rapid info and even maps in their literature for the most recent festivals and, b) RTA has actually been extending service till 1:30a on weekends for late CIFF films.

 

A major-studio premeire crowd is a lot different. especially when we are talking about a fundraiser.

 

^see above revised post....

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

 

That's probably the busiest theater complex in the region.  It's central to a reasonably high population.  Plus, it has lots of parking, and I doubt many people who were going to pay these prices and dress for a premiere event would consider taking RTA to it.

 

 

Really?  How do you explain CIFF in Tower City which is off the charts now in terms of patronage, with large portion of this group coming by train? ...  so much so that: a) CIFF has been posting Rapid info and even maps in their literature for the most recent festivals and, b) RTA has actually been extending service till 1:30a on weekends for late CIFF films.

 

A major-studio premeire crowd is a lot different. especially when we are talking about a fundraiser.

 

Please tell ME who the crowd is different?  Other than this will not have a NY premiere how is this different?

 

Although I do not know all the details in regard to site selection, the city and film commission should have ensured the film was premiered downtown, so that fans of all ages, incomes and transportation modes could celebrate in the success of the production of the movie.

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

 

That's probably the busiest theater complex in the region.  It's central to a reasonably high population.  Plus, it has lots of parking, and I doubt many people who were going to pay these prices and dress for a premiere event would consider taking RTA to it.

 

Keep in mind that there aren't all that many movie theaters left, which is unsurprising because it's a seriously dated business model.  The same "clout" which keeps the industry relevant (viable, even) likely meant they got to pick the location.

 

Dated?  LOL.  Really?  You know nothing, Jon Snow!

 

How many movie premieres have you overseen?  A movie premier does not have to be a theater complex.  Again, does anyone here know what the needs of the premiere production company as well as the movie distributor?

 

Playhouse Square, Cleveland Playhouse, Public Hall/Music Hall & Tower City all have the capabilities to host this. Nothing in the area is more "central" with ancillary pre and post premiere entertainment infrastructure than downtown.

 

 

Eventually someone is going to challenge the theater-release model for major movies, and I suspect it will be successful. If a family of four is willing to pay close to a hundred bucks for tickets, overpriced snacks, etc  to see a movie once, why wouldn’t they be willing to pay, say $50, for the DVD for a few weeks after the movie is released?

 

The central location, pay per person/per viewing model is a classic example of what I call “infrastructure collectivization”, where individual options are limited by the cost required to make something happen.  Even when the technology has reduced these costs, sometimes status quo is preserved by the clout of the middlemen who benefit from same, in this case the theater companies.  But eventually, it gets bypassed, as happened in the music industry. 

 

Within the next five years, I expect this to happen, probably with a major “kids” movie.  How it plays out is undetermined, but I suspect it will work.

I love how E.rocc never answers questions directed at him esp after numerous people prove his points/thoughts are not true.  He just responds w/more BS.  Good stuff. 

I love how E.rocc never answers questions directed at him esp after numerous people prove his points/thoughts are not true.  He just responds w/more BS.  Good stuff. 

 

You were used to that BS!  Which is why I worded my post as such.

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

 

That's probably the busiest theater complex in the region.  It's central to a reasonably high population.  Plus, it has lots of parking, and I doubt many people who were going to pay these prices and dress for a premiere event would consider taking RTA to it.

 

Keep in mind that there aren't all that many movie theaters left, which is unsurprising because it's a seriously dated business model.  The same "clout" which keeps the industry relevant (viable, even) likely meant they got to pick the location.

 

Dated?  LOL.  Really?  You know nothing, Jon Snow!

 

How many movie premieres have you overseen?  A movie premier does not have to be a theater complex.  Again, does anyone here know what the needs of the premiere production company as well as the movie distributor?

 

Playhouse Square, Cleveland Playhouse, Public Hall/Music Hall & Tower City all have the capabilities to host this. Nothing in the area is more "central" with ancillary pre and post premiere entertainment infrastructure than downtown.

 

 

Eventually someone is going to challenge the theater-release model for major movies, and I suspect it will be successful. If a family of four is willing to pay close to a hundred bucks for tickets, overpriced snacks, etc  to see a movie once, why wouldn’t they be willing to pay, say $50, for the DVD for a few weeks after the movie is released?

 

The central location, pay per person/per viewing model is a classic example of what I call “infrastructure collectivization”, where individual options are limited by the cost required to make something happen.  Even when the technology has reduced these costs, sometimes status quo is preserved by the clout of the middlemen who benefit from same, in this case the theater companies.  But eventually, it gets bypassed, as happened in the music industry. 

 

Within the next five years, I expect this to happen, probably with a major “kids” movie.  How it plays out is undetermined, but I suspect it will work.

 

Like I said, you know nothing.  Exactly who is this mythical "someone"?

 

Movies will always be apart of Americana!  People love the idea of seeing a movie with like minded individuals and sharing the experience.....just like this forum or internet community.  If anything the place that will transform will be cable/broadcast television viewing.

 

Again.....you know nothing Jon Snow!

If anything the place that will transform will be cable/broadcast television viewing.

 

 

 

The day I can pay a low fee for the few channels I actually want will be a great one. I doubt that will happen though. Instead Ill have 300 channels, 5 of which I actually watch.

If anything the place that will transform will be cable/broadcast television viewing.

 

 

 

The day I can pay a low fee for the few channels I actually want will be a great one. I doubt that will happen though. Instead Ill have 300 channels, 5 of which I actually watch.

 

THANK YOU!  he he he he

If anything the place that will transform will be cable/broadcast television viewing.

 

 

 

The day I can pay a low fee for the few channels I actually want will be a great one. I doubt that will happen though. Instead Ill have 300 channels, 5 of which I actually watch.

 

That's called the 'net.  It will happen as well, eventually. 

Valley View sucks as the premiere location.  It's a suburban location that's not even near any people, just the I-480/I-77 cloverleaf.  Typical Cleveland anti-urban thinking.

 

That's probably the busiest theater complex in the region.  It's central to a reasonably high population.  Plus, it has lots of parking, and I doubt many people who were going to pay these prices and dress for a premiere event would consider taking RTA to it.

 

 

Really?  How do you explain CIFF in Tower City which is off the charts now in terms of patronage, with large portion of this group coming by train? ...  so much so that: a) CIFF has been posting Rapid info and even maps in their literature for the most recent festivals and, b) RTA has actually been extending service till 1:30a on weekends for late CIFF films... I'm not saying CIFF is necessarily a fancy-shmancy event, but the overwhelming bulk of the festival patrons are suburbanites; esp from East Side burbs, who dare I say, are white and very well heeled.  Most don't dress up, but some do... I might also note that (happily) going downtown, even if by car, is become the cashe thing to do again...

 

... When I go downtown, a most often take the train.  I like others to do so, but don't particularly care how others get there so long as they are there and creating synergy downtown.  The one aspect that has hurt Cleveland so much in recent times, which you reflect E Roc, is this (perceived) convenience, suburbanization of so many retail, business and entertaiment aspects...

 

I think the difference is that suburbanites really don't care if others go downtown, or stay in their own areas, or whichever.  Those who prefer medium or low density don't have any qualms with those who prefer high density, they just don't always choose to partake in same. 

 

Some who prefer high density prefer it to the point that they want higher and higher density, and resent the people who could make the density higher, but opt out.  I suppose that's inevitable.

 

It's all personal preferences, but it seems to me that those innovations which increase convenience at the expense of collectiveness almost always succeed.  This does not mean most people completely avoid dense situations, just that they pick and choose the times and places.

That's probably the busiest theater complex in the region.  It's central to a reasonably high population.  Plus, it has lots of parking, and I doubt many people who were going to pay these prices and dress for a premiere event would consider taking RTA to it.

 

Always to the extremes.... Ya know they have this really cool thing in cities called valet parking.

 

They will probably have it there too, for this particular event.

If anything the place that will transform will be cable/broadcast television viewing.

 

 

 

The day I can pay a low fee for the few channels I actually want will be a great one. I doubt that will happen though. Instead Ill have 300 channels, 5 of which I actually watch.

have you tried going back to rabbit ears? They've made a comeback

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/business/media/06rabbitears.html?pagewanted=all

If anything the place that will transform will be cable/broadcast television viewing.

 

 

 

The day I can pay a low fee for the few channels I actually want will be a great one. I doubt that will happen though. Instead Ill have 300 channels, 5 of which I actually watch.

 

That's called the 'net.  It will happen as well, eventually. 

 

NO...it's not. One thing I'm not going to allow you to do is tell people how media is conceptualized, finalized, marketed or distributed!  When it's very clear you really do not know anything about the industry.

 

You did not answer direct questions (over several posts) I asked you.  I do not act like an authority on rail transportation, I leave that to KJP to give a professional answer.  I don't know about commercial real estate, I leave that to the professionals on this board.  However, I may know how a part of something is run, since entertainment touches our lives on so many levels.  I don't know how an airline is run, but I know how they loyalty programs and ancillary products (and in airport products) work, since the product we provide is essential to consumers choosing an airport, airline or specific flight. 

 

 

Now....lets get back to Cleveland in movies and TV.

 

Do you or do you not know what needs the event production team needed to produce a premier and in particular this premiere?  It's a "yes" or "no" question.

If anything the place that will transform will be cable/broadcast television viewing.

 

 

 

The day I can pay a low fee for the few channels I actually want will be a great one. I doubt that will happen though. Instead Ill have 300 channels, 5 of which I actually watch.

have you tried going back to rabbit ears? They've made a comeback

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/business/media/06rabbitears.html?pagewanted=all

 

Let me guess you have a floor model TV?!  LMAO!!

If anything the place that will transform will be cable/broadcast television viewing.

 

 

 

The day I can pay a low fee for the few channels I actually want will be a great one. I doubt that will happen though. Instead Ill have 300 channels, 5 of which I actually watch.

have you tried going back to rabbit ears? They've made a comeback

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/business/media/06rabbitears.html?pagewanted=all

 

I've thought about it. I know they make modern antennas without the rabbit ears that get HD channels. And TiVo works with them so you can record your shows which is necessary for me. I need to look into it more but I think it would be about a $250 start up cost with only a $15 per month fee.

 

It would be nice to be able to get certain cable channels too but most of the shows I watch are on the major networks anyways.

If anything the place that will transform will be cable/broadcast television viewing.

 

 

 

The day I can pay a low fee for the few channels I actually want will be a great one. I doubt that will happen though. Instead Ill have 300 channels, 5 of which I actually watch.

 

That's called the 'net.  It will happen as well, eventually. 

 

NO...it's not. One thing I'm not going to allow you to do is tell people how media is conceptualized, finalized, marketed or distributed!  When it's very clear you really do not know anything about the industry.

 

You did not answer direct questions (over several posts) I asked you.  I do not act like an authority on rail transportation, I leave that to KJP to give a professional answer.  I don't know about commercial real estate, I leave that to the professionals on this board.  However, I may know how a part of something is run, since entertainment touches our lives on so many levels.  I don't know how an airline is run, but I know how they loyalty programs and ancillary products (and in airport products) work, since the product we provide is essential to consumers choosing an airport, airline or specific flight. 

 

 

Now....lets get back to Cleveland in movies and TV.

 

Do you or do you not know what needs the event production team needed to produce a premier and in particular this premiere?  It's a "yes" or "no" question.

 

You do not "allow" or disallow anything.  You are not the boss here. He may state his opinion, you may try to refute it or state your own- that's it.