Its obvious that MTS didn't literally mean to 'allow'.  He used it as a means to challenge and refute ERocc's credibility.  Credibility that ERocc claims to have

If anything the place that will transform will be cable/broadcast television viewing.

 

 

 

The day I can pay a low fee for the few channels I actually want will be a great one. I doubt that will happen though. Instead Ill have 300 channels, 5 of which I actually watch.

 

That's called the 'net.  It will happen as well, eventually. 

 

NO...it's not. One thing I'm not going to allow you to do is tell people how media is conceptualized, finalized, marketed or distributed!  When it's very clear you really do not know anything about the industry.

 

You did not answer direct questions (over several posts) I asked you.  I do not act like an authority on rail transportation, I leave that to KJP to give a professional answer.  I don't know about commercial real estate, I leave that to the professionals on this board.  However, I may know how a part of something is run, since entertainment touches our lives on so many levels.  I don't know how an airline is run, but I know how they loyalty programs and ancillary products (and in airport products) work, since the product we provide is essential to consumers choosing an airport, airline or specific flight. 

 

 

Now....lets get back to Cleveland in movies and TV.

 

Do you or do you not know what needs the event production team needed to produce a premier and in particular this premiere?  It's a "yes" or "no" question.

 

I'm a consumer, and one who does not have cable TV.  Part of the reason is I can't watch the shows I want to watch on their schedule, with a three year old living on hers.  But part is I watch very few shows. 

 

I watch them online, or I buy them on iTunes.  That's pretty close to that limited channels/cheap model.

Its obvious that MTS didn't literally mean to 'allow'.  He used it as a means to challenge and refute ERocc's credibility.  Credibility that ERocc claims to have

 

Thanks.  Thats exactly what I was going for.  But please do not get your self in trouble with a MOD for me.

Its obvious that MTS didn't literally mean to 'allow'.  He used it as a means to challenge and refute ERocc's credibility.  Credibility that ERocc claims to have

 

Not really.  I was originally replying as to why the decision might have been made to hold the premiere at Valley View.  It was speculation, of course.  To get back to the Cleveland topic, one could also speculate on where the bulk of the Cleveland movie-going population lives.  Most critically, it's a fundraiser.  They may want to "humor" the potential contributors, or even find a theater willing to forego a piece of their own action.  In part to promote their own business model, perhaps.  These things all tie together. 

 

We all speculate based on our limited knowledge of things, or even of associated things or principles.  That's why this is a public forum.  I see constant speculation here on the stands and motives of the Tea Party.  That doesn't bug me....okay, not too much.....even though as far as I know I'm the only one here with actual Tea Party ties.  Likewise I see people talk about business location and environmental concerns, and leave out things I know are key.  So be it...if I see misinformation, I'll correct it.  Maybe people learn a thing or two, as I do here....

If anything the place that will transform will be cable/broadcast television viewing.

 

 

 

The day I can pay a low fee for the few channels I actually want will be a great one. I doubt that will happen though. Instead Ill have 300 channels, 5 of which I actually watch.

 

That's called the 'net.  It will happen as well, eventually. 

 

NO...it's not. One thing I'm not going to allow you to do is tell people how media is conceptualized, finalized, marketed or distributed!  When it's very clear you really do not know anything about the industry.

 

You did not answer direct questions (over several posts) I asked you.  I do not act like an authority on rail transportation, I leave that to KJP to give a professional answer.  I don't know about commercial real estate, I leave that to the professionals on this board.  However, I may know how a part of something is run, since entertainment touches our lives on so many levels.  I don't know how an airline is run, but I know how they loyalty programs and ancillary products (and in airport products) work, since the product we provide is essential to consumers choosing an airport, airline or specific flight. 

 

 

Now....lets get back to Cleveland in movies and TV.

 

Do you or do you not know what needs the event production team needed to produce a premier and in particular this premiere?  It's a "yes" or "no" question.

 

I'm a consumer, and one who does not have cable TV.  Part of the reason is I can't watch the shows I want to watch on their schedule, with a three year old living on hers.  But part is I watch very few shows. 

 

I watch them online, or I buy them on iTunes.  That's pretty close to that limited channels/cheap model.

You still have not answered the question.

 

This "limited channel/cheap model" you call is called Digital Distribution [industry term is Electronic Sellthru]!

 

Which is quite different than this

 

 

Eventually someone is going to challenge the theater-release model for major movies, and I suspect it will be successful. If a family of four is willing to pay close to a hundred bucks for tickets, overpriced snacks, etc  to see a movie once, why wouldn’t they be willing to pay, say $50, for the DVD for a few weeks after the movie is released?

 

The central location, pay per person/per viewing model is a classic example of what I call “infrastructure collectivization”, where individual options are limited by the cost required to make something happen.  Even when the technology has reduced these costs, sometimes status quo is preserved by the clout of the middlemen who benefit from same, in this case the theater companies.  But eventually, it gets bypassed, as happened in the music industry. 

 

Within the next five years, I expect this to happen, probably with a major “kids” movie.  How it plays out is undetermined, but I suspect it will work.

 

Also your buying it on iTunes (which is a whole 'nother beast) and you're still not able to buy a program immediately.  Due to territory, copyright, format and language/languages, you're paying a premium to view the property (tv show, cable program or movie), not product.  You're paying to be able to view a product, not own it.  Even if you "buy" something, you don't own it.

 

You know nothing about the industry, so please let it go.

Its obvious that MTS didn't literally mean to 'allow'.  He used it as a means to challenge and refute ERocc's credibility.  Credibility that ERocc claims to have

 

Not really.  I was originally replying as to why the decision might have been made to hold the premiere at Valley View.  It was speculation, of course.  To get back to the Cleveland topic, one could also speculate on where the bulk of the Cleveland movie-going population lives.  Most critically, it's a fundraiser.  They may want to "humor" the potential contributors, or even find a theater willing to forego a piece of their own action.  In part to promote their own business model, perhaps.  These things all tie together. 

 

We all speculate based on our limited knowledge of things, or even of associated things or principles.  That's why this is a public forum.  I see constant speculation here on the stands and motives of the Tea Party.  That doesn't bug me....okay, not too much.....even though as far as I know I'm the only one here with actual Tea Party ties.  Likewise I see people talk about business location and environmental concerns, and leave out things I know are key.  So be it...if I see misinformation, I'll correct it.  Maybe people learn a thing or two, as I do here....

 

You're only now admitting its speculation because I called you on it!  There is a lot of misinformation in this and many of your previous posts. 

 

For YOUR information a premiere has NOTHING to do with where the "movie going" population lives - NOTHING.  It's purely a MARKETING function.  Just like "Fashion Week" has nothing to do with the people buying the clothing or those in attendance at show, it's to showcase the collections to fashion editors, journalist and the fashion media, period.  The buyers have already bought what they feel the company they represent can sell.  Or CES is to showcase upcoming new products and technology.

Its obvious that MTS didn't literally mean to 'allow'.  He used it as a means to challenge and refute ERocc's credibility.  Credibility that ERocc claims to have

 

Not really.  I was originally replying as to why the decision might have been made to hold the premiere at Valley View.  It was speculation, of course.  To get back to the Cleveland topic, one could also speculate on where the bulk of the Cleveland movie-going population lives.  Most critically, it's a fundraiser.  They may want to "humor" the potential contributors, or even find a theater willing to forego a piece of their own action.  In part to promote their own business model, perhaps.  These things all tie together. 

 

We all speculate based on our limited knowledge of things, or even of associated things or principles.  That's why this is a public forum.  I see constant speculation here on the stands and motives of the Tea Party.  That doesn't bug me....okay, not too much.....even though as far as I know I'm the only one here with actual Tea Party ties.  Likewise I see people talk about business location and environmental concerns, and leave out things I know are key.  So be it...if I see misinformation, I'll correct it.  Maybe people learn a thing or two, as I do here....

 

You're only now admitting its speculation because I called you on it!  There is a lot of misinformation in this and many of your previous posts. 

 

For YOUR information a premiere has NOTHING to do with where the "movie going" population lives - NOTHING.  It's purely a MARKETING function.  Just like "Fashion Week" has nothing to do with the people buying the clothing or those in attendance at show, it's to showcase the collections to fashion editors, journalist and the fashion media, period.  The buyers have already bought what they feel the company they represent can sell.  Or CES is to showcase upcoming new products and technology.

 

Or perhaps the various theaters competed for the premiere and the decision makers made their selection based on their own criteria.  One doesn't need to know what those criteria to know what could and likely did happen.  Come on...

 

If this was all about the media it would have happened in NYC or LA. 

 

Everybody here speculates.  Otherwise we'd be getting paid for this, or there would be about six posts a day.

Dateline on NBC tonight is featuring the case where a woman killed her fiancée with antifreeze. They surprisingly use pretty new shots of the Cleveland skyline... You can see the new windows going up on the federal building.

draft day movie ads all all over espn and march madness games. total saturation. they are full on cleveland shots all the way. its impressive and positive.

seeing a lot of capt america too - its like cle owns the movie business lol! at least during sports events

Saw a special screening of Draft Day last night. The movie was pure candy, nothing earth shattering in terms of writing or acting. Surely no Major League. But it was cool to see some not so typical shots of the city and surrounding areas. Except for some shots of NYC and aerials of a few other football stadiums, it was filmed almost entirely here.

 

Some of the places i spotted other than downtown:

Lakewood

Berea (of course)

Flats (the Sunoco fuel station by the strip clubs was amusing to see)

A shot of Kostner driving through the projects, then magically appearing in Berea

 

^I took my son to see The Winter Soldier this past weekend.  Much better than the first film.  Maybe it was because it didn't have that cheesy 1940's vibe to it.  I went on Friday and it was funny seeing that battle on Lakeside at the intersection with W. 3rd.  I was literally crossing the street at that exact spot earlier that day.

^ Yeah, took my 9yo to see it last week and was really impressed. Now my daughter wants to see it (I made her watch the first one just to see if she'd even be interested, and she hung in there...). Probably going again this weekend. They (people reviewing it) said it was more like a 70's action movie, rather than a superhero film, and I agree.

 

Also, great night shot of the rotunda. And my son, of all people, picked out a scene where Redford is walking through the CMA atrium.

For those who have seen it: Do you think the scene in the Vault is from any specific bank in the city?

 

For those who have seen it: Do you think the scene in the Vault is from any specific bank in the city?

 

Well the establishing shot of that scene was the Cleveland Trust Rotunda. I assumed they used their vault

That was one hell of a movie. Far better than the original.

 

For those who have seen it: Do you think the scene in the Vault is from any specific bank in the city?

 

Well the establishing shot of that scene was the Cleveland Trust Rotunda. I assumed they used their vault

 

That's what I was thinking as well.

The future wife just sent me this regarding Tri-C and Draft Day:

 

Corporate College East among ‘Stars’ of Draft Day

 

Draft Day, a new comedy-drama about the Cleveland Browns and the NFL draft, stars Kevin Costner and Jennifer Garner, but Tri-C’s Corporate College East also has a major role in the movie.

 

CCE stood in for Browns headquarters in Berea during filming in Greater Cleveland last summer. The east wing on CCE’s second floor was transformed, with lecture rooms and other areas becoming NFL draft war rooms and Browns executives’ offices.

 

Since 2009, film production in Northeast Ohio has given the local economy a boost of more than $300 million and created the equivalent of 1,100 full-time jobs, according to the Greater Cleveland Film Commission. For Draft Day, which was shot at several Northeast Ohio sites, local workers made up 65 percent of the 250-member film crew.

 

Tri-C’s Film Crew Tech Training program, which started in 2013, is a result of the demand for technicians in this market.

 

Draft Day is about fictional general manager Sonny Weaver’s (Costner) steps to score the No. 1 pick.

He is aided by his girlfriend and colleague, Ali (Garner), head coach (Denis Leary), owner (Frank Langella) and mother (Ellen Burstyn).

 

The film, which opened this week, was co-written by playwright and Cleveland Heights native Rajiv Joseph and directed by Ivan Reitman.

 

 

 

John Travolta headed to Cleveland this spring to shoot new movie: 'Criminal Activities

 

"For me, having a film commissioner that understands the needs and challenges of the independent film maker is the number one factor in choosing the city to film in," said producer Wayne Rice.

"The Ohio Incentive Program is a great opportunity for our Industry, coupled with a fantastic Cleveland Film Commission that understands our business and what we need to succeed; coupled with great locations and hard working crews make the Ohio Program tough to beat," said producer Mark Johnson.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/moviebuff/index.ssf/2014/04/john_travolta_headed_to_clevel.html

Another Independent film coming to Cleveland:

 

http://www.wkyc.com/story/entertainment/movies/2014/04/25/lux-in-tenebris-starts-filming-in-greater-cleveland/8159999/

 

'Lux in Tenebris' starts filming in Greater Cleveland

WKYC Staff, WKYC 3:30 p.m. EDT April 25, 2014

 

"Lux in Tenebris" will begin shooting this weekend -- April 26-27 -- in the Greater Cleveland area with several local Northeast Ohio actors, as well as Oscar and Golden Globe Nominee Eric Roberts.

 

The film will be directed by B. R. Tatalovic, award winning Serbian-American film artist and professor of Media at Cuyahoga Community College. It will be produced by Clevelander Alexandra Russo.

 

 

 

 

^Very good news.  Q- is Alexandra related to the famed Russo bros?  (Wikipedia didn't say, but I wouldn't be surprised)

 

... speaking of the Russos, their recent (mega-hit) film: "Captain America: The Winter Soldier" was an excellent film from the script to the acting to the editing.  I merely expected good fighting, but it was an intelligent up-to-date movie, issue-wise ... And it made Cleveland really look great as a backdrop for some serious violence... I highly recommend it; kudos to our famous homeboys...

 

Why do we have this thread and this one? Lots of similar topics covered, including the business end of movie-making in Cleveland.....

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=3329.0

 

Shouldn't they be combined? Question is, should they be combined in the Business section or in the Discussion section.

Hmm...I've always differentiated the two threads as:

 

Cleveland: Film Industry -- Cleveland involvement in the business side of the industry -- being a filming location, soundstages, professional work, etc

 

Cleveland: The City in Movies & TV -- Cleveland/Cleveland people being featured in movies, tv, radio, etc

MH is correct - there's probably some overlap but his assessment is accurate.

^^KJP. I'm the one who created this thread and MH's post is correct.  Here's the disclaimer I put at the end of the first post in this thread:

 

[[Mods:  I know we already have a "Cleveland: The City in Movies & TV" topic in "City Discussions" but this is about the the business/jobs/economics of films and movies in CLE as it relates to the city's employment and economy--so that's why I created a new thread instead of putting this info there as its a different topic.]]

 

OK

a very interesting read on how local cleveland tv killed a 1969 tv show starring tim conway -- written by a blogger who recently moved to cleveland:

 

http://touch.dangerousminds.net/home/the_bizarre_computer-scripted_tv_show_referenced_in_last_weeks_mad_men_actu

 

Some kind of movie promotional event happening at TowerCity today that drew people from all over. Don't know much about it but it's cool when TowerCity is used for events, it's such a great space. Read more about it here:

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2014/05/john_green_superstar_and_autho.html#incart_river_default

I had never heard of the book or author, but a co-worker described it to me as "Twilight, but with Cancer"

 

My best pal Lia is producing this. I was an extra last week (filmed in 5th Arcades) and it was really fun.

 

Hello!

 

I am the production assistant from the 'Polka Kings' production currently filming in the Cleveland, OH area.

 

"Polka Kings" is a new docu-reality series about The Chardon Polka Band, set to run in the Fall of 2014 on the REELZ Channel.

 

Next Thursday, May 15th we will be filming a huge crowd scene in downtown Cleveland, and wanted to ask you for your help!!

 

If you are interested in being in a new scene then mark your calendars for Thursday, May 15th approximately 5-7pm.

 

AND

 

Please email me back ASAP with your First and Last Name, and phone number so that you can later be reached with more details about the scene.

 

Any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to ask!!

 

Best

 

Emily Hoban

 

--

Emily Hoban

Production Assistant

'Polka Kings'

440-258-7456

[email protected]

^I know Jake (guy in the middle of the picture above and the lead singer).  He is a one-of-a-kind character.  The show should be as interesting and entertaining as Polka can get.

^I know Jake (guy in the middle of the picture above and the lead singer).  He is a one-of-a-kind character.  The show should be as interesting and entertaining as Polka can get.

 

Super nice guy. I'm rooting for these guys.

arsenio's comeback is one and done:

 

http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/cbs-cancels-the-arsenio-hall-show-1201199060/

Watching a movie right now called 'The Rocker', (UVerse FXM 1792) from 2008. Shot in Toronto but set in Cleveland with a lot of shots of downtown/RockHall/Stadium etc. Never heard of it with Rainn Wilson, Emma Stone...it's not bad. Be on again Thurs.

Here is the wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rocker_(film)

^That movie is very geographically dizzying..... as are most movies set in Cleveland to anybody who knows the City.

^That movie is very geographically dizzying..... as are most movies set in Cleveland to anybody who knows the City.

 

Yes, always such a nice commute downtown.  But all movies do that - The old skateboarding movie in Cincy most certainly DID NOT accurately convey skating to downtown.

^I had totally forgot about that movie.  What was it's title?  And was it skateboarding or roller blading?  It was soooooo late 80's / early 90's, with the surfer type dude from Cali moving to Ohio to teach us hicks in flyover country how to be cool.

^I had totally forgot about that movie.  What was it's title?  And was it skateboarding or roller blading?  It was soooooo late 80's / early 90's, with the surfer type dude from Cali moving to Ohio to teach us hicks in flyover country how to be cool.

 

Just looked it up as I remember Seth Green was in it.  It's Airborne and you are right, it was rollerblading.  I remember a scene where they go down Ravine (I lived on that street in college) and when they get to the bottom, they take a turn that was in a completely different part of Cincy.

^That movie is very geographically dizzying..... as are most movies set in Cleveland to anybody who knows the City.

 

I saw "Bad Grandpa" stuck on an overnight flight. Several times a character would go past the St. Louis arch, turn the corner and be right at....you guessed it - Public Square!

^There must be some kind of teleportation device stashed on Public Square.  I'm still trying to figure out how Loki chased that entire crowd out of doors of the Old County Courthouse right onto Public Square.

^There must be some kind of teleportation device stashed on Public Square.  I'm still trying to figure out how Loki chased that entire crowd out of doors of the Old County Courthouse right onto Public Square.

 

Ha! You're right. Perhaps here is the explanation:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellmouth_(Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer)#Cleveland_Hellmouth

 

In the fictional universe established by the television shows Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel, a Hellmouth is an area fraught with massive supernatural activity.

 

Cleveland Hellmouth[edit]

There is one featured Hellmouth in Buffyverse canon, located in Sunnydale, California and a second one, mentioned several times throughout the series, in Cleveland, Ohio.

 

The location of the second Hellmouth is first suggested in the episode "The Wish". In an alternative timeline, Giles mentions that "there is a lot of demonic activity in Cleveland", where Buffy is located due to the effects of Cordelia's wish.

 

After the final battle in "Chosen", and the characters express relief that their struggle is finally over, Giles adds that "there's another one in Cleveland". In the Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season Eight comic "No Future For You", Giles refers to Cleveland, where Faith is stationed, as a "second-rate Hellmouth". In Angel: After the Fall, the Senior Partners express interest in purchasing property in Cleveland, following the destruction of the Sunnydale Hellmouth.

More on the Chardon Polka Band "reality sit-com"  http://plaindealer.oh.newsmemory.com/publink.php?shareid=10443298d

thats pretty funny about movies and shows that jump around in cleveland illogically. it probably happens every time, but are there other examples anybody can add?? i remember laughing at double dragon, a slice of cheese movie i really happen to love, when it jumped from la to tower city.

 

the famous hollywood version of this is the 1960s movie love story because it jumps all over harvard from scene to scene. it probably became well known for that because its set at harvard, but also because it was rare to shoot outside of hollywood in those days.

 

 

 

 

 

thats pretty funny about movies and shows that jump around in cleveland illogically. it probably happens every time, but are there other examples anybody can add?? i remember laughing at double dragon, a slice of cheese movie i really happen to love, when it jumped from la to tower city.

 

the famous hollywood version of this is the 1960s movie love story because it jumps all over harvard from scene to scene. it probably became well known for that because its set at harvard, but also because it was rare to shoot outside of hollywood in those days.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's called bad continuity!  There is specific person, whose job, is to watch for that during filming and during editing of the movie/TV show.

 

It happens in many, many, many movies and is usually noted by other professionals and fans.  It usually ends up as "trivia" related to a movie or TV show.

I saw a commercial being filmed on East 4th this morning - anyone know who or what?

How did you know it was a commercial?

Someone mentioned it on Facebook but didn't give details.

MayDay[/member]

 

Perhaps it was this?

 

HOB Cleveland ‏@HOBCleveland  19m

. @KingJames is down on E. 4th St!  Take a behind-the-scenes peek of the filming of @Nike's new national commercial!

Ah yep, that would make sense!