Besides their initial reaction of confusion and shock, it's almost like they played up Cleveland too much throughout the episode.  As Cleveland fanboy, I was almost uncomfortable about the amount of praise the show was giving Cleveland for two hours.  Can I say that..?

 

But at the same time, the city of Cleveland looked fantastic on a show that gets 7-8 million views internationally each episode. 

Edited January 28, 20205 yr by MuRrAy HiLL

I didn't get to watch it last night. Is there a place to see it? Youtube, hulu, etc?

 

^ @Pugu can’t answer that one, but found a crappily recorded intro to the city:

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/Brownsnuggets/status/1221980970330574848

Edited January 28, 20205 yr by MuRrAy HiLL

1 hour ago, Pugu said:

I didn't get to watch it last night. Is there a place to see it? Youtube, hulu, etc?

 

Wonder if they do replays of The Bachelor. Missed it too.

2 hours ago, Pugu said:

Some people are ripping the show's producers apart for picking CLE!  Ha-ha!  The girls' reaction when told where they were going--if real, not sure how scripted the show is--is pretty funny. You can see a clip of the reaction on the link below.

 

WRONG JOURNEY Bachelor fans slam producers who ditched exotic locations for CLEVELAND as contestants fall silent

 

"BACHELOR producers are being ridiculed by their passionate fanbase after the “uncomfortable” reaction from the show's contestants when they heard this week's episode destination is Cleveland, Ohio. The Bachelor is typically known for it’s world-class filming locations and over-the-top romantic dates but this week, production sent leading man Peter Weber, 28, and his group of ladies to the midwestern city and Bachelor Nation was outraged."

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/10834842/bachelor-fans-slam-producers-who-ditched-exotic-locations-for-cleveland-as-contestants-fall-silent/

 

 

ha yeah i figured that would happen with superfans. and yeah they definitely shot the opening clip of them being told cold in order to get a truthful shocker reaction, because obviously it would be waat? but it wasn't at all bad, just obvious quick shock. one of them said, "well. i don't think people think of cle for romance, but ok" or something like that, which is true. haha. it was fine. then they immediately cut it to everyone saying super positive things. and yeah the super positive remarks were weirdly poured on over and over the whole show, but frankly it was nice to see. the episode was very well done and the city looked fantastic and in the end that's all that matters.

 

the bachelor reminded me of a soap opera combined with a game show combined with a highly scripted reality show. i don't watch tv much, but it was well produced and i can see the appeal for some people. its just silly fluff after all.

 

i guess they are going on to other places around the world after this.

It seems like the biggest laughing point was the reaction of the contestants when Harrison said pack your bags, going to Cleveland.  

 

The social media world we live in allows for the reaction of a bunch of hair stylists, cheerleaders, nannies and unemployed 20 somethings to be the gold standard of how people feel about a location. Im inclined to say that the fact that those people had a taken back reaction is actually a complement to our city.  These arent the worlds finest.

haha well, social media allows people to over react to something because they want to.

 

of course the site choice of cleveland itself is a funny choice to be sure for the bachelor. i mean it aint vegas or miami, but i would bet most superfans were won over by the end of the show and wrapped back up into the manufactured dramas and all that. i do think the cast was very pleasantly surprised and the city came off as a fun place and looking good.

3 hours ago, Pugu said:

I didn't get to watch it last night. Is there a place to see it? Youtube, hulu, etc?

 

You can watch it on Hulu.

FWIW - The Bachelor CLE episode: ~6 million viewers, 2nd most watched Monday

https://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/monday-final-ratings-jan-27-2020/

Edited January 29, 20205 yr by NorthShore647

^How do you read the rating/share column?  

Rating is the percentage of all  households (with TVs) watching. Share represents the portion of the TV audience currently watching at that time. 

 

So for the demographic of (18 to 49), ~1.6% of all households (with TVs) watched, while ~8% of all households watching TV (during the broadcast time) watched.  

Ladies, lighten up: Cleveland belongs right up there with any Bachelor destination
 

https://matadornetwork.com/read/cleveland-bachelor-destination/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

6 hours ago, NorthShore647 said:

Rating is the percentage of all  households (with TVs) watching. Share represents the portion of the TV audience currently watching at that time. 

 

So for the demographic of (18 to 49), ~1.6% of all households (with TVs) watched, while ~8% of all households watching TV (during the broadcast time) watched.  

 

Thanks. but shouldn't the share number number be the same for all the horizontal lines if its the % of HH watching TV during the broadcast time? 

13 hours ago, Pugu said:

 

Thanks. but shouldn't the share number number be the same for all the horizontal lines if its the % of HH watching TV during the broadcast time? 

Share is the number viewers watching a particular show divided by the number of people watching TV at the time.

 

Rating is the number of viewers watching a particular show divided by the number of total possible viewers (whether they were watching TV or not)

Big stars can’t come from small towns -- or can they? Rocky River’s own Michael Chernus is well on his way

Updated 5:38 PM; Today 5:10 PM
By Linda Gandee/special to cleveland.com

 

ROCKY RIVER, Ohio -- His name may not ring a bell with some people, but that is certainly about to change as former Rocky River resident Michael Chernus will be seen in a new TV series with Emmy Award-winning actress Edie Falco. 

The series is called “Tommy.” The crime drama will be seen on CBS on Thursdays beginning Feb. 6.

 

Chernus spoke recently about the new series, the character he plays, his lengthy acting resume, and his fond memories and ongoing connections with his hometown of Rocky River.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/community/2020/02/big-stars-cant-come-from-small-townsor-can-they-rocky-rivers-own-michael-chernus-is-well-on-his-way.html

^Rocky River is not a "small town"--its a suburb of Cleveland. Why would the PD even say such crap?  Wooster or Warrren may be "small towns" but an obvious suburb of the Cleveland. 

 

Also, the caption under the photo says, "Michael Chernus, born and raised in Rocky River and now a successful New York actor, reminisces about his hometown, life and career."  There isn't a hospital in Rocky River--or one 30 or so years ago--looking at this age.  So that means he was either born at home or more shoddy PD reporting.

 

11 hours ago, Pugu said:

^Rocky River is not a "small town"--its a suburb of Cleveland.

 

That was also my exact thought when I saw that headline. 

On 2/3/2020 at 6:01 PM, Pugu said:

^Rocky River is not a "small town"--its a suburb of Cleveland. Why would the PD even say such crap?  Wooster or Warrren may be "small towns" but an obvious suburb of the Cleveland. 

 

Also, the caption under the photo says, "Michael Chernus, born and raised in Rocky River and now a successful New York actor, reminisces about his hometown, life and career."  There isn't a hospital in Rocky River--or one 30 or so years ago--looking at this age.  So that means he was either born at home or more shoddy PD reporting.

 

 

Wooster and Warren both have larger populations than Rocky River.  Why do you get so defensive about this stuff?  It might be a suburb of Cleveland, but it is a relatively small town.

I agree that calling a suburb like RR a "small town" is a misunderstanding of what a small town is. Ask somebody who grew up in an actual small town and they are very likely to agree.

3 hours ago, mu2010 said:

I agree that calling a suburb like RR a "small town" is a misunderstanding of what a small town is. Ask somebody who grew up in an actual small town and they are very likely to agree.

There is no universal definition of small town so it’s hard to have a misunderstanding of what a small town is. The poster used Warren and Wooster as examples, both of which are larger than RR population wise, so it wasn’t a good comparison. I’ve spent a lot of time in RR and it does feel like a small town.  It’s a bit provincial and insular and the people don’t necessarily identify as Clevelanders even if it is an outer ring suburb. 

3 hours ago, mu2010 said:

I agree that calling a suburb like RR a "small town" is a misunderstanding of what a small town is. Ask somebody who grew up in an actual small town and they are very likely to agree.

 

Grew up in a town of ~10k, and an area of (being generous), 20k. Part of being a 'small town' is being miles from anything, you drive for the hell of it, and don't have a quarter of the features RR has. RR is NOT a small town, sure, maybe population wise at 20k, but it borders one of the most dense cities in the state (Lakewood), which neighbors a major city. It's one city removed from Cleveland.

 

For reference, my hometown was over an hour from Buffalo or Erie, with grapes, corn, and nothing-ness in between, the school up the hill had a bring your tractor to school day and my mascot was the Hillbilly (and graduating class was ~130).

 

Rant, sure, but my point is RR is nothing close to a small town...

19 minutes ago, GISguy said:

Rant, sure, but my point is RR is nothing close to a small town...

 

It sure seemed small (population ~9,000) when I was a kid growing up there in the 50s.

 

Back on thread:  RR-native Jess Burkle, who now claims he's from Novelty, is a script writer this season (starts in April) for 'In the Dark' a CW dramedy. He's bright and funny in person, so I hope he does well.

I agree with @GISguy---s "small town" is not about the exact population, but being the "main place" with nothing around.  Hough has only 16,000 people, but its clearly not a "small town". Maybe Wooster was a bad example. A better one may have been Mayberry. In any event, no suburb of any city is a 'small town'. that's just sloppy or ill-informed writing by the PD.

Rocky River is not a "small town".  It is a neighborhood of Cleveland with a municipal boundary to make sure that your tax dollars don't go to any poor people.

14 hours ago, jeremyck01 said:

There is no universal definition of small town so it’s hard to have a misunderstanding of what a small town is. The poster used Warren and Wooster as examples, both of which are larger than RR population wise, so it wasn’t a good comparison. I’ve spent a lot of time in RR and it does feel like a small town.  It’s a bit provincial and insular and the people don’t necessarily identify as Clevelanders even if it is an outer ring suburb. 

I’m sorry, but I was born and raised in Bay Village (btw, “born and raised” to me as a phrase does not specifically refer to the municipality in which you were physically born, but I guess if we want to play that game I was born in Fairview. No, sorry, make that Cleveland) and my parents now live in Rocky River.
 

Both BV and RR have strong (and justified) identities as small towns — both were settled in 1810 and then the rest of the Westshore grew around them.  They can be both small towns and suburbs.  But I know of no one from either place there are not proud to identify themselves as Clevelanders. 

Edited February 6, 20205 yr by brtshrcegr

^ you would think the writer would have a better handle on presenting a place given her long marketing and community affairs background:

 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/linda-gandee-3983291a

all planes at laguardia go to cleveland in snl’s funny airport sushi skit:

 

 

 

Stuntman for a day
 

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/03/want-to-be-a-stuntman-heres-your-chance.html

 

A "Stuntman for a Day" hands-on seminar is scheduled 6-10 p.m. Friday, April 17, in partnership with Stunt Predators USA and Adrenaline Monkey. It's the first time the commission has held the event, said Evan Miller, president of the non-profit organization that promotes Northeast Ohio as a place for films to be made.

...

Stuntman for a Day is 6-10 p.m. Friday, April 17. Tickets: $35 (pre-sale), $40 (at the door), $15 (spectators) and $10 (contest competitors, open to ages 5 and older). It will be held at Adrenaline Monkey, 26800 Renaissance Pkwy., Cleveland. (That’s actually Warrensville Heights, very close to 271/480 intersection)

 

12 hours ago, KJP said:

 

Only thing that’ll top this for me is the CVNP episode of Finding Bigfoot.

So we started watching Little Fires Everywhere on Hulu last night.  really great acting and its going to be quite a series.  I read the book and its pretty intense.  

 

My reservations are with the interpretation of Shaker Heights.  Celeste Ng is from here and created the story around Shaker, but i feel the rules are completely hyperbole.  Maybe they were different in the 90's when she grew up here, but I find Shaker to be a pretty chill place from living here for almost 4 years..  Sure there were stipulations created around property ownership and all that that have kept the city competing with the further out suburbs and kept Shaker from going the route of other inner ring suburbs...but i feel like the depiction is blown out of proportion. Additionally, i have never met anyone like the Mom (Reese Witherspoon)...maybe i havent been here long enough.  But she freaking schedules when she is going to have sex with her husband, because everything has to operate within a box. LOL. 

 

Celesta Ng came back for part of her book tour and admitted she felt a little awkward meeting with residents.  I think she knows she beefed it up a little bit for the dramatic element of it all.

32 minutes ago, BelievelandD1 said:

So we started watching Little Fires Everywhere on Hulu last night.  really great acting and its going to be quite a series.  I read the book and its pretty intense.  

 

My reservations are with the interpretation of Shaker Heights.  Celeste Ng is from here and created the story around Shaker, but i feel the rules are completely hyperbole.  Maybe they were different in the 90's when she grew up here, but I find Shaker to be a pretty chill place from living here for almost 4 years..  Sure there were stipulations created around property ownership and all that that have kept the city competing with the further out suburbs and kept Shaker from going the route of other inner ring suburbs...but i feel like the depiction is blown out of proportion. Additionally, i have never met anyone like the Mom (Reese Witherspoon)...maybe i havent been here long enough.  But she freaking schedules when she is going to have sex with her husband, because everything has to operate within a box. LOL. 

 

Celesta Ng came back for part of her book tour and admitted she felt a little awkward meeting with residents.  I think she knows she beefed it up a little bit for the dramatic element of it all.

 

I personally loved the interpretation of Shaker.  It isn't so much how it is now as it has become a bit less stringent and a little more laid back with the influx of people from Cleveland Hts. etc., but it still has that reputation due to lingering things like not being able to make changes to the outside of your house without going through review and approval, not being able to leave trash out or tree ;awn items in the front etc.  And of course the history was very restrictive. 

The way the high school is depicted with the racial divide seems rather on point as well.  

 

It is cool that they sneaked in some of that history though (planned community, winslow doubles etc.).

 

I think there are people like Elena everywhere (a neighbor on Parkland is pretty similar, a previous employer was very much similar).   And I'm sure there used to be more of the type in Shaker when it was predominant fortune 500 exec. wives.   

 

Love the show. 4th episode should be up at midnight tonight! 

    

Edited March 24, 20205 yr by willyboy

Many of you in the Cleveland area have probably seen this story on the local news.  I didn't see it discussed/posted here in the Forum, so for those who missed it on ABC News in their 6:30 broadcast March 25, I'm sharing it here.  For me, this was the kind of story that represented Cleveland in the best possible light - featuring one of the city's greatest institutions and human nature at its best.  Great to know that a national audience saw it. 

 

i just watched this on netflix -- pretty good i liked it.

 

it was a lot of fun to spot who was playing who, like joel mchale playing chevy chase, natasha lyonne playing anne beatts, etc.

 

downside was it was a bit oddly paced and i thought an unnecessary hit job on kenney's parents.

 

not sure if anything was really filmed in chagrin falls.

 

there is also a documentary about kenney and national lampoon if you want more of the real story.

 

 

Seriously? 

 

'Making It... In Ohio' is a new sitcom that will be filmed in Cleveland ...

 

Edited April 24, 20205 yr by KJP

^ He lost me at ‘Parks & Recreation meets Friends’ ?

I've heard before if your elevator pitch can't be summed up as "show a meets show b" executives immediately stop listening.

^ I’m in no doubt you are right and look where it’s got us in terms of programming quality nowadays. On the free to air channels anyway. 

I saw this on TV and spotted some familiar surroundings.

That can't be a real view though.  It looks like buildings have been cut and pasted, mirror imaged, etc. to make and idealized "skyline view".

5 hours ago, X said:

That can't be a real view though.  It looks like buildings have been cut and pasted, mirror imaged, etc. to make and idealized "skyline view".

The video is obviously not real representation of the actual skyline. It is nice to see a city in the background other than the usual cities that retailers use to sell their products. This is an international company.

I love Bona! Good product and the name provides endless giggles. So random they would use this background. I’m guessing maybe they have a Cleveland-based agency?

Watched "Stiv: No Compromise No Regrets" over the weekend. 

Great doc about the Dead Boys (among many other bands) frontman, Stiv Bator.
Lots of Cleveland talk with some mostly newer drone shots of the skyline.

 

I think it is only on Amazon Prime: https://www.amazon.com/Stiv-No-Compromise-Regrets/dp/B07NQZVPYJ

 

But I'm sure it could be found on other sites, too. 

 

This may be coming a little late to set the DVR, but I’m sure it’ll be on again or on demand.

7 hours ago, Sapper Daddy said:

This may be coming a little late to set the DVR, but I’m sure it’ll be on again or on demand.

 

The Cleveland.com article on it says it will be available on Amazon Prime.   It also says that Destination Cleveland paid for the episode, which I found surprising.  

 

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/08/cleveland-to-be-featured-in-its-how-you-get-there-on-the-history-channel.html

6 hours ago, Cleburger said:

 

The Cleveland.com article on it says it will be available on Amazon Prime.   It also says that Destination Cleveland paid for the episode, which I found surprising.  

 

https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/08/cleveland-to-be-featured-in-its-how-you-get-there-on-the-history-channel.html

I know they paid to have “The Bachelor” come here.  I think paying for that exposure is pretty standard.  Sad though, that a great deal of tourism that The Bachelor would of attracted was likely lost as a result of Covid.

5 minutes ago, Sapper Daddy said:

I know they paid to have “The Bachelor” come here.  I think paying for that exposure is pretty standard.  Sad though, that a great deal of tourism that The Bachelor would of attracted was likely lost as a result of Covid.

 

I wonder if they "paid" the production company, or simply provided hotel, ground transport, etc?   

 

It would seem like a worthwhile investment in a pre-COVID world.   That Bachelor episode got a lot of traction.  

Doesn't surprise me.  A lot of those news program segments where they go to some small local business and see how they make their donuts or whatever are paid for by the business themselves.  I'm surprised how often they contact us, making it sound like they'd [i]really[/i] like to do a segment with us, but they just need us to pony up a few hundred dollars to cover the costs of the segment.  That's pricey for a small business, and I suspect their average viewer is somewhere north of 65 and not really the type looking to try new things.

HGTV Relief Properties premier —  Anyone catch it?

 

Nov 7 and Nov 8
 

https://www.facebook.com/1470810453199690/posts/2767669260180463

Edited November 9, 20204 yr by MuRrAy HiLL