Posted April 26, 20232 yr Increasingly it looks like this project is going forward. And it's big enough to deserve it's own thread. Some background..... On 9/3/2022 at 10:17 PM, KJP said: More detail.... CWRU seeks $300M research center By Ken Prendergast / September 3, 2022 At an alumni event earlier this week, Case Western Reserve University President Eric Kaler announced that the university has begun philanthropic fundraising to construct a new $300 million Interdisciplinary Science and Engineering Building. The new research facility was part of the university’s campus masterplan that was completed in 2018 but various components of it, including the expanded South Campus Residential Village now under construction, were delayed by the pandemic. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/09/03/cwru-seeks-300m-research-center/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 26, 20232 yr Author This is why it looks like this may actually be happening. Because stuff is happening.... CWRU’s $300m research center moves forward By Ken Prendergast / April 26, 2023 A proposed Interdisciplinary Science and Engineering Building with a construction budget roughly equal to that of the new Sherwin-Williams headquarters’ original tab is no longer just an idea for administrators, staff and students at Case Western Reserve University (CWRU). The university is already making moves to relocate classes and other services and activities out of Yost Hall, 2049 Martin Luther King Jr. Dr., so it can be demolished this summer to make way for the new research center. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/04/26/cwrus-300m-research-center-moves-forward/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 26, 20232 yr This sounds great. My only ask, or put it, beg, is that they don't treat the MLK side of the building as a bonafide loading dock. That whole stretch of buildings that front the quad, but butt along MLK need to be redesigned to provide a better streetside presence along the road way.
April 26, 20232 yr 48 minutes ago, scg80 said: This sounds great. My only ask, or put it, beg, is that they don't treat the MLK side of the building as a bonafide loading dock. That whole stretch of buildings that front the quad, but butt along MLK need to be redesigned to provide a better streetside presence along the road way. In the CWRU Master Plan, they specifically call for MLK drive between Carnegie and Euclid to be removed (and Stearns road reversed one-way) so that these very buildings don't have a "front" and "back/loading dock", rather they lead into the park currently there and better connect to the rapid station. They also propose a designated ThinkBox entrance facing Carnegie. There are pictures of it somewhere in here... https://case.edu/masterplan/documents/cwru-master-plan-march18edits.pdf Edited April 26, 20232 yr by Geowizical
April 28, 20232 yr I stopped into Jolly Scholar last night and was reading a copy of CWRU Newspaper that had an article on this. Long story short, the math department isn't terribly happy about how the administration has communicated what will happen to their department after the demo. Just another perspective. https://observer.case.edu/open-letter-circulates-in-math-department-detailing-yost-demolition-discontent/
April 28, 20232 yr Author 2 hours ago, GISguy said: I stopped into Jolly Scholar last night and was reading a copy of CWRU Newspaper that had an article on this. Long story short, the math department isn't terribly happy about how the administration has communicated what will happen to their department after the demo. Just another perspective. https://observer.case.edu/open-letter-circulates-in-math-department-detailing-yost-demolition-discontent/ I referenced and linked to that article in my article. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 6, 20232 yr Author CWRU reveals research center details By Ken Prendergast / June 6, 2023 Case Western Reserve University (CWRU) President Eric Kaler yesterday announced the details of the university’s new, 200,000-square-foot research center intended to promote collaborative discovery and innovation. Called the Interdisciplinary Science and Engineering Building (ISEB), the $300 million investment represents the university’s largest-ever project on the Case Quad, northeast of Euclid Avenue and Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/06/06/cwru-reveals-research-center-details/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 7, 20232 yr On 4/26/2023 at 7:26 PM, Geowizical said: In the CWRU Master Plan, they specifically call for MLK drive between Carnegie and Euclid to be removed (and Stearns road reversed one-way) so that these very buildings don't have a "front" and "back/loading dock", rather they lead into the park currently there and better connect to the rapid station. They also propose a designated ThinkBox entrance facing Carnegie. There are pictures of it somewhere in here... https://case.edu/masterplan/documents/cwru-master-plan-march18edits.pdf I wonder about the likelihood of the MLK relocation/removal. The CWRU Master Plan is from 2016 and MLK still exists in the same place between Carnegie and Euclid. There doesn't appear to be any guidance or steps to take in the Master Plan about actually getting this done. I assume the City would have to be consulted and onboard. Could the construction of the ISEB be the point at which MLK changes start being seriously pursued?
June 8, 20232 yr 21 hours ago, SeaLibrarian said: I wonder about the likelihood of the MLK relocation/removal. The CWRU Master Plan is from 2016 and MLK still exists in the same place between Carnegie and Euclid. There doesn't appear to be any guidance or steps to take in the Master Plan about actually getting this done. I assume the City would have to be consulted and onboard. Could the construction of the ISEB be the point at which MLK changes start being seriously pursued? It's unlikely the master plan will build out as planned, but I think it's likely it will still guide future campus plans. The 2016 plan was created under a different University administration, and the new President will have a different influence on campus physical planning. The MLK section is probably the least likely feature, IMO, since it requires stakeholders significantly beyond CWRU itself. The question was posed to President Kaler about any plans to also make the walk between the new building and the rapid station more pleasant, and my sense is that there is nothing being considered outside the scope of this specific building. Edited June 8, 20232 yr by jws
June 8, 20232 yr Author During design-review meetings for Stokes West, city officials said redesigning streets in University Circle is a high priority for them to make walking and biking safer and more comfortable. MLK and Fairhill were among the roadways identified by Planning Director Joyce Huang. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
June 8, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, KJP said: During design-review meetings for Stokes West, city officials said redesigning streets in University Circle is a high priority for them to make walking and biking safer and more comfortable. MLK and Fairhill were among the roadways identified by Planning Director Joyce Huang. A top priority should be to improve the shabby sculpture garden along MLK. Could be a great space with even a little bit of care and vision. Currently in Chicago - and while Cleveland will likely never have the scale and resources to develop comparable spaces - I truly believe a lack of vision and will holds us back more than anything.
June 9, 20232 yr You’re not wrong - MLK is often used as an extended on/off ramp for the shoreway - but it’s sad to hear the cultural gardens reduced to “shabby sculptural garden”. Lots of amazing history there.
June 9, 20232 yr 41 minutes ago, Henke said: You’re not wrong - MLK is often used as an extended on/off ramp for the shoreway - but it’s sad to hear the cultural gardens reduced to “shabby sculptural garden”. Lots of amazing history there. I don't believe he was referencing the cultural gardens. I believe he meant the small stretch between Euclid and Cedar next to One University Center and the Case campus.
June 9, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, Htsguy said: I don't believe he was referencing the cultural gardens. I believe he meant the small stretch between Euclid and Cedar next to One University Center and the Case campus. Correct. Even extending across Euclid by the status. I know there was the doan brook construction but it’s all neglected.
June 9, 20232 yr 20 hours ago, KJP said: During design-review meetings for Stokes West, city officials said redesigning streets in University Circle is a high priority for them to make walking and biking safer and more comfortable. MLK and Fairhill were among the roadways identified by Planning Director Joyce Huang. That will make such a difference - in my opinion that's the one thing holding UC back (aside from the absence of late night music venues - rest in peace, Barking Spider).
June 9, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, ASP1984 said: That will make such a difference - in my opinion that's the one thing holding UC back (aside from the absence of late night music venues - rest in peace, Barking Spider). and Euclid Tavern
June 9, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, freefourur said: and Euclid Tavern How could I forget. My first show was there.
June 9, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, ASP1984 said: How could I forget. My first show was there. I think I saw the Generators there which would have been one of my first that wasn't a fraternity party. The last there was Velocity Girl in the late 90s. Ironically Cebar's is officially "Cebar's Euclid Tavern".
June 9, 20232 yr 25 minutes ago, ASP1984 said: How could I forget. My first show was there. I spent a good chunk of the 90s at the Euc and the Grog Shop. A lot of it is a blur for some reason...lol
June 9, 20232 yr 23 hours ago, KJP said: During design-review meetings for Stokes West, city officials said redesigning streets in University Circle is a high priority for them to make walking and biking safer and more comfortable. MLK and Fairhill were among the roadways identified by Planning Director Joyce Huang. This is good the hear, becsause the biking/pedestrian infrastructure in greater University Circle is embarrassingly bad. I really do hope this new CWRU project is a solid first step to transforming that MLK corridor and improving the pedestrian connection to the rapid. There will also be a lot of traffic, but with such a wide right-of-way, it is absolutely insane to force pedestrians to walk on a skinny sidewalk immediately adjacent to 3 lanes of very fast-moving cars.
June 10, 20232 yr 21 hours ago, StapHanger said: This is good the hear, becsause the biking/pedestrian infrastructure in greater University Circle is embarrassingly bad. I really do hope this new CWRU project is a solid first step to transforming that MLK corridor and improving the pedestrian connection to the rapid. There will also be a lot of traffic, but with such a wide right-of-way, it is absolutely insane to force pedestrians to walk on a skinny sidewalk immediately adjacent to 3 lanes of very fast-moving cars. I second this, and it sounds like the new research center should be a step in the right direction for walkability. The MLK/Cedar/Carnegie intersection is an absolute mess and should be an embarrassment to have in any major urban area. I still find it insane they haven’t done anything at all to improve the connection to the rapid from the quad—last I checked the door from the Veale Center was locked from the inside and the building required an ID to get inside.
June 12, 20232 yr On 6/10/2023 at 9:55 AM, sonisharri said: I still find it insane they haven’t done anything at all to improve the connection to the rapid from the quad—last I checked the door from the Veale Center was locked from the inside and the building required an ID to get inside. This exact feature was brought up in some staff/faculty meetings as an opportunity but it won't be changing, unfortunately. There is a nice ground level entrance to think[box], but it isn't particularly prominent. At this point, this new ISE building will be the "main" access to the quad from MLK, and the weird staircase between Veale and Glennan will remain.
June 13, 20232 yr 20 hours ago, jws said: This exact feature was brought up in some staff/faculty meetings as an opportunity but it won't be changing, unfortunately. There is a nice ground level entrance to think[box], but it isn't particularly prominent. At this point, this new ISE building will be the "main" access to the quad from MLK, and the weird staircase between Veale and Glennan will remain. I'm guessing the reason why the CWRU administration and board do not favor this is the same reason why SW did not want benches in front of their building. It's a perception that they have to keep a certain population of people out of the quad. Probably the same reason why the buildings along MLK are built as a perceived fortress, but not along Adelbert. It's a larger cultural issue that we are still waging.
June 13, 20232 yr 20 minutes ago, scg80 said: I'm guessing the reason why the CWRU administration and board do not favor this is the same reason why SW did not want benches in front of their building. It's a perception that they have to keep a certain population of people out of the quad. Probably the same reason why the buildings along MLK are built as a perceived fortress, but not along Adelbert. It's a larger cultural issue that we are still waging. I think they would be willing if the buildings were more conducive to it, but they were built with this mentality so the ground floors along MLK are all functionally basement levels with service/utility/some lab space. The Veale doors open into what is the gym level and there is no controlled access to locker rooms or other facilities, but this one would be the easiest to reconfigure because you could just add another service desk. I could see more buildings opened up along MLK if there are significant interior reconfigurations, but that will all be post-ISEB.
July 5, 20231 yr Author A couple of previously unseen views of the proposed new research center that's going to be on Planning Commission's docket this Friday (per the latest agenda revision) plus a site plan. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 5, 20231 yr Glad to see - hopefully just the start - of a warmer welcome down that stretch of MLK. Any plans to upgrade the green space in the median? Would be nice to see that updated with more lighting and some places to sit. Better crosswalks too. As we know, UC is split by high speed traffic - would be great to create a better connection from Case to 1UC and beyond.
May 31, 20241 yr On 5/22/2024 at 11:09 AM, Geowizical said: Yost Hall is coming down. Ripped this from the ISEB live webcam: Sterns would be perfect for a mini "Midway" style project, take away a lane from each direction and turn it into a protected bike lane.
June 3, 20241 yr On 5/31/2024 at 9:13 AM, MyPhoneDead said: Sterns would be perfect for a mini "Midway" style project, take away a lane from each direction and turn it into a protected bike lane. On the most recent master plan from 2015, CWRU actually noted a desire to completely remove Stearns, which would be amazing. There were some other good, quad-adjacent ideas, too. Not sure what the institutional appetite is to make this stuff happen, though. Edited June 3, 20241 yr by jws
June 3, 20241 yr 30 minutes ago, jws said: On the most recent master plan from 2015, CWRU actually noted a desire to completely remove Stearns, which would be amazing. There were some other good, quad-adjacent ideas, too. Not sure what the institutional appetite is to make this stuff happen, though. Do you mean MLK? Regardless, I don't think there's a realistic chance of this happening.
October 5, 2024Oct 5 Author Another groundbreaking, in Case you want more By Ken Prendergast / October 5, 2024 A second major groundbreaking ceremony is happening later this month in Cleveland, following that of the Cleveland Clinic Global Peak Performance Center. But this one could be a little confusing to those familiar with Case Western Reserve University’s (CWRU) $300 million Interdisciplinary Science and Engineering Building (ISEB). They may wonder if this project hasn’t already been underway for some time — because it has. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/10/05/another-groundbreaking-in-case-you-want-more/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 21, 2024Oct 21 Just a friendly PSA that another crane appears to be rising in UC! (See the CWRU ISEB live webcam below) https://case.edu/facilities/projects/current-projects/interdisciplinary-science-engineering-building Also maybe we could rename this thread to be ISEB-specific and not just "New Research Center"?
October 21, 2024Oct 21 Author Done "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 27, 2024Nov 27 Some sort of support structure already going in… side note: crazy to be able to see the Rockefeller Building from this side of the street.
November 27, 2024Nov 27 1 hour ago, MuRrAy HiLL said: Some sort of support structure already going in… side note: crazy to be able to see the Rockefeller Building from this side of the street. Your comment made us look up this other Rockefeller Building referenced. Learn some interesting history of this town every day. It looks ready for a long overdue close-up Mr. DeMille (as is the big brother Rockefeller Building Downtown). https://thedaily.case.edu/guess-rockefeller-building/
December 4, 2024Dec 4 Upward! From the live webcam: https://iseb-project.case.edu/axis-cgi/mjpg/video.cgi
February 2Feb 2 I am perusing my Case Alumnus magazine (ha, ha nerd) and this caught my eye regarding the new CWRU Interdisciplinary Science and Engineering Building (ISEB): "The evening featured some news, including the announcement that the Kalers, Eric and Karen, had contributed $1 million to the project, helping to push fundraising past the $110 million mark." That's University President Eric Kaler - talk about putting your money where your mouth is! Here's an online version of the article: https://casealumni.org/stories/campus/all-eyes-on-iseb/ Hey @MuRrAy HiLL When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
February 2Feb 2 This kind of investment IS the future. Not just for scientific advancement but it elavates Case's profile as well as advancing the Cleveland economy. We need more of this, much more.
March 2Mar 2 On 2/2/2025 at 3:25 PM, Boomerang_Brian said: I am perusing my Case Alumnus magazine (ha, ha nerd) and this caught my eye regarding the new CWRU Interdisciplinary Science and Engineering Building (ISEB): "The evening featured some news, including the announcement that the Kalers, Eric and Karen, had contributed $1 million to the project, helping to push fundraising past the $110 million mark." That's University President Eric Kaler - talk about putting your money where your mouth is! Here's an online version of the article: https://casealumni.org/stories/campus/all-eyes-on-iseb/ Hey @MuRrAy HiLL Great news and thanks to your link we saw another interesting story on their various campus branding efforts: https://casealumni.org/uncategorized/cit-engraving-restored/
March 28Mar 28 Topping off ceremony was today. If anyone has any photos , please post! Edited March 28Mar 28 by MuRrAy HiLL
March 29Mar 29 12 hours ago, MuRrAy HiLL said: Topping off ceremony was today. If anyone has any photos , please post! I walk past it almost everyday, will do
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