You really have no one else to blame other than yourself for a parking ticket.

Yeah Cleveland should hostily take over these municipal left overs. It would add about 6000 residents to the city and add a land area of about 7.3 square miles. Further more it might cause a minor skew in the demographical information such as median inccome, and percentage below the poverty line. I wonder why Cleveland hasn't tried to annex these "Suburbs".

I doubt Cleveland sees much advantage to annexing a place like Linndale and Bratenahl probably wouldn't want to be swallowed by Cleveland, either.

 

Ouir equivalent for spped traps in Columbus was New Rome, which has about 200' of US 40 and was infamous for unjustly ticketing drivers until the state took away their right to do so.

the real problem is the lack of structured parking.  in so many of the neighborhoods, there is no surface parking or structured parking of any kind - it is all on street, and between fire hydrants, bus stops, and private garage entrances, it is a very frustrating experience to park a car in SF.  i have never seen anything like it (in certain parts of the city).  Even if you are willing to pay $10/hour to park your car to eat dinner, there are NO spaces.  A parking deck on market can easily cost $40/per 24 hours, but at least you can find a space. 

 

the good thing is that SF has great public transit.  but, there are still areas where it is difficult or very time consuming to arrive via public transit. 

If Linndale were annexed by Cleveland, that would be an upgrade for them. Linndale is a dump. Different issue for Bratenahl though.

I think people convicted of parking-related crimes should be forced to wear a boot for 90 days.

 

 

Not on their car, mind you. But on their actual, physical body.

“Any city that is worth visiting is going to have a terrible parking problem,” said Gabriel Metcalf, executive director of the San Francisco Planning and Urban Research Association, a public policy center. “If you don’t want it to be Disneyland or Houston, you’re going to be experiencing a parking shortage.”

 

great quotation.

^ i agree, that's the absolute truth.

 

it was so gratifying living in a neighborhood that is notorious for its parking shortage and never once having to deal with it myself.

“Any city that is worth visiting is going to have a terrible parking problem,” said Gabriel Metcalf, executive director of the San Francisco Planning and Urban Research Association, a public policy center. “If you don’t want it to be Disneyland or Houston, you’re going to be experiencing a parking shortage.”

 

great quotation.

 

Reminds me of the old line: "Nobody goes to Coney Island anymore. It's too crowded."

I was just checking out this thread...interesting reading...does anyone have a picture of Albert Porter? I have darts in need of a target.

Here is a picture of the ribbon cutting in 1964, of the new bridge and approach roads linking Clifton Boulevard in Lakewood and Lake Road in Rocky River. While this link speeded vehicle traffic from suburbs farther west heading into the city, it meant the demolition of some of Lakewood's finest homes in the Clifton Park neighborhood. Lakewood fought the road all the way to the Supreme Court and lost.

 

Yet, here are Rocky River Mayor Norman Schwenk, Ohio Lt. Govenor John Brown, Lakewood Mayor Robert Lawther and Cuyahoga County Engineer Albert Porter at the ribbon cutting.

 

 

Here is how Albert Porter looked after the CTS Rapid opened....

 

 

(just kidding)

Big chin!  :-D

 

Interesting to see how many communities did fight these roads and ended up losing. Maybe they should have staged sit-ins to block the bulldozers.

I'll bet the pope this is the only site on the internet currently mocking Cuyahoga County Engineer Albert Porter.

 

Moving on...

 

Here in Columbus, there's a lovely plaque along Goodale Avenue, just south of the eponymous park, marking the northern boundary of the Flytown neighborhood. The plaque hails this multi-ethnic enclave as the manifestation of the melting pot of democracy and the very promise of America.

 

Then one examines the boundaries of Flytown set forth on the monument, looks immediately to the south to survey this sacred place, and then finds himself staring directly into I-670.

I'll bet the pope this is the only site on the internet currently mocking Cuyahoga County Engineer Albert Porter.

 

 

his great grandson is probably googling for him right now, stumbles across this site, and cries.

Impossible.

 

His childrens' homes were demolished to make way for the highway.

 

With his children in them.

It's almost like ya want to contact his current family and let them know what an evil man he was, although they are probabaly living in Arizona with the money he embezzeled from the county.

Kingfish: I saw the plaque for Flytown and, yep it's gone, paved over by I-670, a road we never needed. Remember when it was shut down for reconstruction? Nobody seemed to miss it! I don't recall any traffic jams on surrounding streets the whole time it was under construction. Drivers found other routes and we seemed to do just fine.

Kingfish: I saw the plaque for Flytown and, yep it's gone, paved over by I-670, a road we never needed. Remember when it was shut down for reconstruction? Nobody seemed to miss it! I don't recall any traffic jams on surrounding streets the whole time it was under construction. Drivers found other routes and we seemed to do just fine.

 

But I rather enjoy taking the freeway from Italian Village to the Victorian Village Giant Eagle. I shave nearly a minute off the surface-street time.

It's almost like ya want to contact his current family and let them know what an evil man he was, although they are probabaly living in Arizona with the money he embezzeled from the county.

 

From a Whitepages.com search: Albert>Porter>AZ:

 

Porter, A J

XXXX N Country Club Vista Pl

Tucson, AZ 85750-1968

(520) 299-XXXX

 

A J = Albert Junior?

I'd love to do a book about Albert Porter. Every so often when I see something on the Web about him, I save it for future use.

Porter's got to be, singularly, the worst person in Cleveland history -- no one is even close... JoeC's quickly becoming Porter-lite.

Porter's got to be, singularly, the worst person in Cleveland history -- no one is even close... JoeC's quickly becoming Porter-lite.

 

I still think Modell is at the top of the list! Porter might be a very close second.  The chairman of AMOCO & rats fill out the rest of the top five.

More on Porter. Here, being beaten by old ladies:

 

http://www.shakersquare.net/news/pd-sept25-shakerlakes.htm

 

EDIT: (posted above, whoops).

 

Oh, well. Here's that funny picture again:

 

^The article basically jokes of his death in 1979.  Oh well, one less slimey bastard on this Earth.

Porter's got to be, singularly, the worst person in Cleveland history -- no one is even close... JoeC's quickly becoming Porter-lite.

 

I still think Modell is at the top of the list! Porter might be a very close second.  The chairman of AMOCO & rats fill out the rest of the top five.

 

I don't like Modell a little bit... but although he took our Browns, we did get a new team and new stadium... Porter literally hampered our rail system -- the affects linger to this day -- and, more importantly, destroyed downtown; we're still in the throes of his madness... Playhouse Sq. and eastern downtown would have been served by a subway and thriving, had it not been for him.  The voters voted in favor of the Subway but he pressured the County Commissioners to vote against selling bonds to finance the system...

 

We're talking sports -- entertainment -- verses the lifeblood and survival of Cleveland... With all due respect, MTS, Art Modell isn't even same universe when it comes to destructiveness to the city of Cleveland.  Porter is in a class by himself.

Porter's got to be, singularly, the worst person in Cleveland history -- no one is even close... JoeC's quickly becoming Porter-lite.

 

I still think Modell is at the top of the list! Porter might be a very close second.  The chairman of AMOCO & rats fill out the rest of the top five.

 

I don't like Modell a little bit... but although he took our Browns, we did get a new team and new stadium... Porter literally hampered our rail system -- the affects linger to this day -- and, more importantly, destroyed downtown; we're still in the throes of his madness... Playhouse Sq. and eastern downtown would have been served by a subway and thriving, had it not been for him.  The voters voted in favor of the Subway but he pressured the County Commissioners to vote against selling bonds to finance the system...

 

We're talking sports -- entertainment -- verses the lifeblood and survival of Cleveland... With all due respect, MTS, Art Modell isn't even same universe when it comes to destructiveness to the city of Cleveland.  Porter is in a class by himself.

 

Well since you put it that way!  Point taken...an I stand corrected!

The superhighways cut the Cleveland neighborhoods into unattractive fragments where shopping and schools were cut off.  A street where the children cannot walk to school is obviously going to fall in value because parents won't want to buy it.  Giving far flung suburbs easier access to jobs made them more attractive and hence the smaller homes in Cleveland would fall in value (relatively).

 

All this in a racist era when black Americans were "red lined" -- banks would not give them mortgages in the "good" neighborhoods. 

Found while doing some post-holiday file pruning.

 

Thumbnail (click for full size):

 

 

 

 

^ Thats insane!

looks like my house would have been demolished twice over!

Here in Columbus, there's a lovely plaque along Goodale Avenue, just south of the eponymous park, marking the northern boundary of the Flytown neighborhood. The plaque hails this multi-ethnic enclave as the manifestation of the melting pot of democracy and the very promise of America.

 

Then one examines the boundaries of Flytown set forth on the monument, looks immediately to the south to survey this sacred place, and then finds himself staring directly into I-670.

 

Except that Flytown was a slum (why do you think it was called Flytown?  It wasn't because of "human aviation).

We dress it up and give it PC names now, but the "removal" of Flytown allowed for the gentrification of Victorian Village (which led to the gentification of the "Short North", which led to the gentification of the University....)

Found while doing some post-holiday file pruning.

 

Thumbnail (click for full size):

 

 

 

Or visit here instead...

http://www.roadfan.com/clevmap.html

Here in Columbus, there's a lovely plaque along Goodale Avenue, just south of the eponymous park, marking the northern boundary of the Flytown neighborhood. The plaque hails this multi-ethnic enclave as the manifestation of the melting pot of democracy and the very promise of America.

 

Then one examines the boundaries of Flytown set forth on the monument, looks immediately to the south to survey this sacred place, and then finds himself staring directly into I-670.

 

Except that Flytown was a slum (why do you think it was called Flytown?  It wasn't because of "human aviation).

We dress it up and give it PC names now, but the "removal" of Flytown allowed for the gentrification of Victorian Village (which led to the gentification of the "Short North", which led to the gentification of the University....)

 

No suprises here. It's clear that the Short North would rather have a mural of a tenement house full of boisterous poor folks than the genuine article (actual immigrants are DEATH for property values). Oh, how I pray Bollinger Tower remains just as it is. I think it's incumbent upon historical societies to include the dark side of the story when they put these markers up. Put up the Howard Zinn version, if you will.

Here in Columbus, there's a lovely plaque along Goodale Avenue, just south of the eponymous park, marking the northern boundary of the Flytown neighborhood. The plaque hails this multi-ethnic enclave as the manifestation of the melting pot of democracy and the very promise of America.

 

Then one examines the boundaries of Flytown set forth on the monument, looks immediately to the south to survey this sacred place, and then finds himself staring directly into I-670.

 

Except that Flytown was a slum (why do you think it was called Flytown?  It wasn't because of "human aviation).

We dress it up and give it PC names now, but the "removal" of Flytown allowed for the gentrification of Victorian Village (which led to the gentification of the "Short North", which led to the gentification of the University....)

 

No suprises here. It's clear that the Short North would rather have a mural of a tenement house full of boisterous poor folks than the genuine article (actual immigrants are DEATH for property values). Oh, how I pray Bollinger Tower remains just as it is. I think it's incumbent upon historical societies to include the dark side of the story when they put these markers up. Put up the Howard Zinn version, if you will.

 

They do, but you do understand that there is a lack of historical perspective within Columbus (even though the Short North social clubs do an all right job)

 

I'll have to check my small collection of Columbus writings to see if I have anything on "Flytown."

Otherwise, I'll have to encourage you to speak to Atlas about letting you in on any of OSU Geography Dept's forums (aka Colloquiums)

Here in Columbus, there's a lovely plaque along Goodale Avenue, just south of the eponymous park, marking the northern boundary of the Flytown neighborhood. The plaque hails this multi-ethnic enclave as the manifestation of the melting pot of democracy and the very promise of America.

 

Then one examines the boundaries of Flytown set forth on the monument, looks immediately to the south to survey this sacred place, and then finds himself staring directly into I-670.

 

Except that Flytown was a slum (why do you think it was called Flytown? It wasn't because of "human aviation).

We dress it up and give it PC names now, but the "removal" of Flytown allowed for the gentrification of Victorian Village (which led to the gentification of the "Short North", which led to the gentification of the University....)

 

No suprises here. It's clear that the Short North would rather have a mural of a tenement house full of boisterous poor folks than the genuine article (actual immigrants are DEATH for property values). Oh, how I pray Bollinger Tower remains just as it is. I think it's incumbent upon historical societies to include the dark side of the story when they put these markers up. Put up the Howard Zinn version, if you will.

 

They do, but you do understand that there is a lack of historical perspective within Columbus...

 

And as an outsider with absolutely no (pre-existing) roots here, I find that most offensive.

 

I'll have to check my small collection of Columbus writings to see if I have anything on "Flytown." Otherwise, I'll have to encourage you to speak to Atlas about letting you in on any of OSU Geography Dept's forums (aka Colloquiums)

 

I am simultaneously grateful and terrified.

 

Thanks!

Groundbreaking New Analysis:

 

Public Transportation Saves $6,200 Per Household, 1.4 Billion Gallons of Gasoline

 

WASHINGTON, DC - Today, the American Public Transportation Association (APTA) released a groundbreaking new study finding that public transportation use saves 1.4 billion gallons of gasoline every year, and can reduce household expenses by $6,200 - more than the average household pays for food in a year.

 

"This should be a wake-up call as Congress and the President discuss how America can move towards energy independence," said APTA President William W. Millar.  "Public transportation provides Americans with greater freedom, access, opportunity and choice.  Ridership is up over 25 percent since 1995, because Americans knew instinctively that it saves money and gasoline.  Now we know exactly how much."

 

The study, "Public Transportation and Petroleum Savings in the U.S.: Reducing Dependence on Oil," was prepared for APTA by ICF International.  It finds that:

 

§        Public transportation usage reduces U.S. gasoline consumption by 1.4 billion gallons each year - or the equivalent of 108 million cars filling up, almost 300,000 each day.  These savings result from the efficiency of carrying multiple passengers in each vehicle; the reduction in traffic congestion from fewer automobiles on the roads; and the varied sources of energy for public transportation.  If twice as many Americans had the choice of taking public transportation, these gasoline savings would at least double to 2.8 billion gallons each year.

 

§        Households that are likely to use public transportation on a given day save over $6,200 every year, compared to a household with no access to public transportation service.  These households have two workers, one car and are within three-quarters of a mile of public transportation.

 

"Who says there's no such thing as a free lunch?" Millar said.  "According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average U.S. household spends $5,781 on food - and people who are likely to take public transportation can easily save more than that in a year."

 

"As the new Congress begins working on energy legislation, we call on them to make sure that public transportation plays a central role in reducing our dependence on foreign oil," Millar said.

 

 

The full report is available online at www.apta.com and www.publictransportation.org.

This is fascinating reading. It just goes to show how pervasive the current autocentric system really is and how it has so grossly distorted the marketplace. It's a wonder we have ANY transit or rail service.

oh, if anyone really cares, the new IRS rate for personal vehicular use for business reimbursement is at 48.5 cents per mile now (2007 figure)

That's up about a cent from the year before.

That's up about a cent from the year before.

 

to be exact, it was 44.5 in 2006

I thought I saw from the IRS that it was 47.5 cents at one point. No biggie.

Rubber sidewalks are a new trend in public works departments right now.  They offer some great benefits:  great for mature trees (sidewalks won't buckle), softer on joints of pedestrians, more flexible to the sidewalk layout, more impervious surface than concrete, the maintanence costs are lower, and also last about 4x longer than normal concrete sidewalks.

 

However the big drawback (in this world of 'right-now politics') is that they initially cost about 2x as much as concrete sidewalks.  This trend is picking up some steam right now, and Ohio has its first city contemplating the installation of rubber sidewalks.

 

Where does everyone stand on this issue...and share any other projects that might come on line in Ohio in the near future!

Hamilton may install rubber sidewalks

CAMERON FULLAM / [email protected]

January 25, 2007

 

HAMILTON — Cracked and buckled sidewalks, broken apart by tree roots gasping for water, could be a thing of the past. Rubber sidewalks — made from recycled tires and a chemical binder — may make their Ohio debut in Hamilton later this year.

 

Hamilton City Council Wednesday night approved an application to the Ohio Department of Natural Resources for a $7,050 scrap tire grant. Combined with a local match of private citizens, the city's tree board plans to replace 1,000 square feet of root-damaged concrete in Rossville with rubber sidewalks, said board Chairwoman Doris Bergen.

 

http://www.journal-news.com/hp/content/oh/story/news/local/2007/01/25/hjn012507rubbersidewalks.html

I wouldn't mind them, but what color are they? In my mind I have this picture of black, rubber sidewalk through out a city, but I realize they can probably be almost any color, but what is the default color?

so basically 2x more expensive front end, but 4x cheaper in the long run?

^^The default color is gray...they look very similar to normal sidewalks.  They seem to make great sense...and are REALLY GOOD for the environment.

 

Here is some more info:

MAP: Cities with Rubber Sidewalks

Recent Rubber Sidewalk projects (pics and info)

Ohio town to install rubber sidewalks near tree roots

Associated Press

Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:00 AM

 

HAMILTON, Ohio (AP) — Leaders in this southwest Ohio city want to install rubber sidewalks made from recycled tires in a neighborhood where tree roots have damaged concrete paths.

 

City Council on Wednesday night approved an application to the Ohio Department of Natural Resources for a grant of $7,050 to buy scrap tires.

 

With a funding match from residents, the city plans to install 1,000 square feet of rubber sidewalks in place of damaged concrete to test whether they can be effective throughout the city, officials said.

 

Rubber sidewalks have removable tiles, making it possible to trim tree roots.

 

http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=242408

I don't know..I think they feel a little too squishy and annoying...  I guess I wouldn't mind them though. They might look out of context in a lot of historic looking neighborhoods. It's a good use for rubber though :]

I'm not a fan of how they look, but it does look nicer than a new concrete sidewalk and no tree.  Also, I think it would be quite nice to walk on, once you get used to the fact that it has a little give.

I wonder how it stands up to snow-shoveling and ice-melting salt...