Posted June 27, 200519 yr From the 6/27/05 Toledo Blade: Erie Co. mulls airport Project involves NASA, Toledo's port authority By DAVID PATCH BLADE STAFF WRITER SANDUSKY - Officials of Erie County and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration are jointly investigating the potential to build a new county airport near NASA's research station in Perkins Township. The Toledo-Lucas County Port Authority has agreed to be the project manager for a federally funded airport siting study that will focus on possible sites near the NASA Glenn Plum Brook Station, which is west of U.S. 250 and just north of the Ohio Turnpike. ... http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050627/NEWS17/506270348/-1/NEWS
August 27, 200519 yr Author A related story from the 8/26/05 Toledo Blade: Erie County to fund part of airport's operations By STEVE MURPHY BLADE STAFF WRITER The Erie County commissioners have agreed in principle to begin contributing next year toward the cost of operating the Erie-Ottawa Regional Airport near Port Clinton. During their regular business meeting this morning, the commissioners will discuss how much they can afford to pay, said Mike Bixler, Erie County administrator. ... http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050825/NEWS17/508250357
March 18, 200619 yr http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060318/NEWS17/603180351/-1/NEWS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Article published March 18, 2006 Erie County narrows search for airport study consultant In the first step toward establishing a sizable airport in Erie County, officials have narrowed the search for a consultant to conduct a feasibility study. Using a $100,000 federal grant, Erie County hopes to hire RS&H, Ohio Inc., a national company that serves as the master consultant for the Toledo-Lucas County Port Authority. ...
March 18, 200619 yr If they're planning on flying in heavy loads for NASA, this could mean a fairly good sized runway to handle heavy-lift aircraft.
March 23, 200619 yr If they built an airport at NASA, then all those scientists can just fly into Sandusky and walk right across the street to the indoor waterparks! :-D
April 29, 200619 yr Author From the 4/27/06 Willoughby News-Herald: County explores taking over Lost Nation Airport By: John Arthur Hutchison/[email protected] 04/26/2006 Discussions are moving forward about the possibility of Lake County taking over the operation of Lost Nation Airport in Willoughby. County commissioners and Willoughby officials are asking U.S. Rep. Steven C. LaTourette, R-Concord Township, to explore securing federal funding to help the county pay to take over the 400-acre airport from the city of Willoughby. An executive session is scheduled May 9 to formally discuss the matter. Among those expected to attend are Willoughby officials, county commissioners and LaTourette. Read More...
April 30, 200619 yr That airport is a joke, its not really a reliver or needed. About maybe 8 years back or so they "expanded" and upgraded the airport by making a new hangar, anticipating alot of more planes to be using it. It was a flop, it was never used, and it was made into an indoor sports place and a bar. It literlay only serves a seldom used police hellicopter, maybe 20 tops single prop private planes, some freaky parachute plane, and the blimps when the go to cleveland. Send it all to burke I say.
May 23, 200619 yr http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060522/NEWS11/605220320/-1/NEWS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Article published May 22, 2006 Metcalf Field repaving part of $4.56M modernization By DAVID PATCH BLADE STAFF WRITER Leveling the base for an airport runway may not seem to be a precision job, but even an inch makes a difference, especially with expensive oil driving up the price of asphalt paving mix. "We gotta have it [level] within a half-inch," construction worker Andy Miller of Liberty Center said while spray-painting marks on the earth-stone bed for what will soon be the rebuilt crosswind runway at Metcalf Field in Lake Township in Wood Count..y. Contact David Patch at: [email protected] or 419-724-6094.
July 20, 200618 yr Author From the 7/20/06 PD: Willoughby in serious talks to lose Lost Nation Thursday, July 20, 2006 Michael Scott Plain Dealer Reporter Willoughby - Lake County and Willoughby officials have accelerated talks about having county commissioners or a countywide port authority take over Lost Nation Airport. Commissioners President Dan Troy said the county might take the airport under certain conditions. "That would mean that the airport isn't losing money each year, that the FAA helps the county out with the deal and that it could be run by a public-private operator," Troy said Thursday. Read More...
September 11, 200618 yr Author From the 9/9/06 Lorain Morning Journal: Company to find site for new airport By RICHARD PAYERCHIN, Sandusky Bureau Chief 09/09/2006 PERKINS TOWNSHIP -- A Maumee company will look for the best place to put a new airport in Erie County. The Erie County Commission voted 2-0 yesterday approving two resolutions needed to conduct a feasibility study to find the best location for a new Erie County Regional Airport. The county will use a $100,000 grant from the Federal Aviation Administration with a local match of $5,000 from a grant from the Dorn Foundation. ... http://www.morningjournal.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17172691&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=46371&rfi=6
September 16, 200618 yr Author From the 9/15/06 News-Herald: Willoughby hopes airport proposal will take flight City trying to sell Lost Nation Airport to county for $750,000 John Arthur Hutchison [email protected] 09/15/2006 The city of Willoughby has asked Lake County to assume control of Lost Nation Airport in Willoughby. Under the draft proposal submitted Sept. 8 to county commissioners, the city would transfer assets of the 400-acre airport to the county for $750,000. The deal also would include the county assuming $467,782 in bonds the city still owes on the airport. Those bonds expire in December 2009. Read More...
November 29, 200618 yr Erie Co. mulls collaboration with Huron Co. on new airport By TOM JACKSON [email protected] PERKINS TWP. - A committee studying whether to build a new airport in Erie County is considering whether to collaborate with an existing Huron County airport in Norwalk. Two officials from Norwalk-Huron County Airport attended the Monday afternoon meeting of the committee carrying out the study. ... http://www.sanduskyregister.com/localnews/fullstory.html?sku=20061127232945742173
January 4, 200718 yr http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070104/NEWS16/701040364/-1/NEWS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Article published January 4, 2007 Selling Metcalf Field just 1 of 52 city budget cut ideas By TOM TROY BLADE STAFF WRITER For Sale: Airport in Wood County. Close to future Bass Pro Shops. Good commercial development site. $24M. Call Carty. Such an advertisement hasn't been published. But it's being envisioned. Contact Tom Troy at: [email protected] or 419-724-6058.
February 26, 200718 yr Author From the 1/5/07 Toledo Blade: Selling Metcalf Field won't be easy Toledo may have to repay federal grants for airfield, work out lease By TOM TROY and DAVID PATCH BLADE STAFF WRITERS Selling Metcalf Field - either to remain as an airport or for redevelopment - would be a complicated undertaking for Toledo, but Mayor Carty Finkbeiner is serious about trying to make it happen this year. The plan for the general aviation airport in Wood County's Lake Township is one of the ideas proposed by the Finkbeiner administration to city council's budget task force to cut this year's threatened $10.6 million deficit... Contact Tom Troy at: [email protected] or 419-724-6058. http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070105/NEWS16/701050343/-1/NEWS
May 9, 200718 yr Author From the 2/12/07 News-Herald: Mentor residents invited to discuss airport plans Lake County has plans to take control of Lost Nation By: Jenny May [email protected] 02/12/2007 Mentor residents interested in hearing about potential plans for Lost Nation Airport in Willoughby are invited to a meeting at 7 p.m. Thursday at the Mentor Senior Center. The meeting, to discuss a plan for the county to take over the airport, will be hosted by Mentor city officials. Lake County commissioners are expected to attend as well. Read More...
May 9, 200718 yr Author Both from the 2/16/07 News-Herald: Airport expansion lands in council's hands WH councilman wonders how study could find 'no significant impact' By: Mark Tuscano [email protected] 02/16/2007 Willoughby Hills City Council members were extremely interested Thursday night in hearing Cuyahoga County Airport Administrator Kevin Delaney and C&S Engineers representatives Mark Petranchek and Matt Werham of the company working with Cuyahoga County on the proposed airport expansion plan. The presentation in the Willoughby Hills Community Center also drew Mayor Kenneth Lorenz, state Sen. Tim Grendell, R-Chester Township, and more than two dozen city residents. Delaney and Werham gave city council an executive summary of their report, which included what they presented as a comprehensive study and analysis of the Cuyahoga County Airport's short-, medium- and long-range plans for development to meet expected demands. Read More... Will airport buy fly? Residents voice concerns as Mentor hosts meeting over possible county purchase of Lost Nation Airport By: Jenny May [email protected] 02/16/2007 More than 200 concerned area residents and Lost Nation Airport pilots packed the Mentor Senior Center on Thursday to voice concerns over Lake County's desire to take over the 40-acre airport. Mentor officials called the meeting so residents could get more information about the county's proposal to buy the airport if federal funds become available. Mentor city officials moderated the meeting, which included Lake County Commissioners Robert E. Aufuldish and Ray Sines and Willoughby Mayor David E. Anderson. Read More...
September 14, 200717 yr they should just close burke and expand this place. first up - a pic: and a link: http://www.lcraa.com/ Lorain County airport begins work on 48 new hangars Work begins to build 48 hangars Thursday, September 13, 2007 Molly Kavanaugh Plain Dealer Reporter New Russia Township- The Lorain County Regional Airport will break ground today for 48 hangars, a $6 million project that is the first step in a larger expansion expected at the airport. The first of four buildings holding 12 hangars which will be sold rather than leased should be up by the end of the year, with the three other buildings to follow as the hangars are sold, said Rob Johnston, head of Johnston Aviation Co., which manages the county-owned airport. More below http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1189673275182260.xml&coll=2
September 18, 200717 yr they should just close burke and expand this place. no they shouldnt well maybe you use burke, but i can think of quite a few better things to do with the cleveland version of battery park city and prime lakefront property than leaving it an underused airport.
December 9, 201113 yr Blue Ash Airport facing shutdown General aviation airport headed for closure, as funds and fliers dry up The city of Cincinnati is likely to close the Blue Ash Airport this summer because of its inability to win federal grants and declining revenue from landing fees and tenants. Airport supporters, including the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, are trying to prevent the closure. But Airport Manager Fred Anderton said the outlook is bleak. “I don’t know there’s much more that can be done,” he said. Cincinnati bought the 228-acre airport in 1946 as a potential replacement for foggy and flood-prone Lunken Airport, before the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport was developed in Northern Kentucky. In the last 40 years, the city developed as an upscale residential and corporate center. In 2006, Blue Ash agreed to buy 130 acres from Cincinnati to develop a park and performing arts center. Cincinnati then planned to reconfigure the airport onto a 98-acre tract that includes the property’s 3,500-foot runway, but those plans were subject to securing grants from the Federal Aviation Administration. Cont (Premium Article) "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
February 18, 201312 yr Cuyahoga County Airport's proposed runway expansion is met with approval By Karen Farkas, The Plain Dealer on February 17, 2013 at 12:00 PM, updated February 17, 2013 at 12:10 PM Print RICHMOND HEIGHTS, Ohio - Plans to expand and improve the runway at the Cuyahoga County Airport are proceeding in a new era of friendly relations between the county and the facility's neighbors. An environmental assessment to determine the feasibility of adding 400 feet to the runway while keeping the airport within its 640-acre confines in Richmond Heights began in December. The assessment will take about 18 months and includes several public events, the first later this month. But the runway reconstruction and other federally mandated safety improvements, estimated to cost as much as $50 million, may not occur for years, said airport manager Kevin Delaney. Read more at: http://www.cleveland.com/cuyahoga-county/index.ssf/2013/02/cuyahoga_county_airports_proposed_runway_expansion_is_being_met_with_approval.html#incart_m-rpt-2/b]
November 25, 201311 yr Well the death knell has finally rung. The Blue Ash airport is totally shut down and construction is happening on the acreage sold off to Blue Ash for a great new city park. It is just another feather in Blue Ash's bonnet. My question is why Cincinnati is hanging on to the remainder of the airport property? It is not within the City's boundaries and likely never will be. Is Cincinnati hoping for a commercial developer to offer them a better price or just waiting for Blue Ash to get their finances in order and buy the rest?
October 1, 20159 yr Well the death knell has finally rung. The Blue Ash airport is totally shut down and construction is happening on the acreage sold off to Blue Ash for a great new city park. It is just another feather in Blue Ash's bonnet. My question is why Cincinnati is hanging on to the remainder of the airport property? It is not within the City's boundaries and likely never will be. Is Cincinnati hoping for a commercial developer to offer them a better price or just waiting for Blue Ash to get their finances in order and buy the rest? Ahem: http://www.cincinnati.com/story/money/2015/10/01/blue-ash-airport-al-neyer/73155464/
October 2, 20159 yr ^I realized I hadn't seen one of kjbrill's posts in forever, so I clicked on his name and it said "banned". Is that true? I especially liked the little dead face emoji!
October 2, 20159 yr Unfortunately there are many, many kjbrills out there on the internet these days. Every time you hit one with the bopper, two or three more spring up.
October 2, 20159 yr "Neyer wants to buy nearly 99 acres of vacant land from the city of Cincinnati for $8.3 million." "The city of Blue Ash bought about 130 acres of the 228-acre site from the city of Cincinnati in 2007 for $37.5 million." What am I missing in that equation?
October 2, 20159 yr I believe there is a twenty year annuity on top of the initial $8.3 million purchase price. "Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago." - Warren Buffett
October 2, 20159 yr "Neyer wants to buy nearly 99 acres of vacant land from the city of Cincinnati for $8.3 million." "The city of Blue Ash bought about 130 acres of the 228-acre site from the city of Cincinnati in 2007 for $37.5 million." What am I missing in that equation? The site (what remained of the functioning Blue Ash Airport circa 2005) was split into two parcels. The section we sold to Blue Ash in 2006 was the triangular area that is now Summit Park. That was where the two taxiways and the hangers were. A trapezoidal parcel remained (the old runway and 100-200 feet parallel to it) that was not sold in 2006 because there were plans to rebuild the airport on the southeast side of the runway. That didn't happen and now Cincinnati is selling this final section.
October 2, 20159 yr I believe there is a twenty year annuity on top of the initial $8.3 million purchase price. I thought that was low too (from the Enquirer): ...Under the deal, the city of Cincinnati would levy an annual property assessment - now pegged at $1.35 per square foot - on the site's office space. ...to help Cincinnati meet its desire to obtain a long-term source of revenue following the property sale. If 500,000 square feet of office space is developed, the city could receive up to $13.5 million over the agreement's life. It could receive more money if an employer moves out of Cincinnati to occupy office space at the Blue Ash site....
October 2, 20159 yr What if they decide to build residential? Is there a requirement for them to build office based on the Cincinnati agreement?
August 13, 20177 yr Resurfacing of the runway at CGF complete and a new taxiway constructed. After a two-month closure, the runway is now open. (There is only one runway at the airport.) https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-aviation/2017-08-01/cuyahoga-county-airport-reopen-after-runway-project
August 17, 20177 yr "...Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is set to award $162.4 million in airport infrastructure grants through the Airport Improvement Program (AIP). The grants will affect 72 airports in 31 states [including:]... Cuyahoga County Airport in Cleveland, OH, $11.3 million – grant funds will be used to repair and extend Runway 06/24...." http://www.equipmentworld.com/usdot-faa-to-award-162-3-million-in-airport-infrastructure-grants/
September 6, 20195 yr Hello Cuyahoga County Airport enthusiast(s)! Im posting here looking for feed back. I have been doing some IRL activism to close an underperforming airport in Cleveland, Burke Lakefront Airport and was looking for some outsider perspective. There is data that suggests the party’s over at Burke. My question—based on this 2013 graph—would you support consolidating the three Cuyahoga County airports into two? Your airport could really gain traffic and Hopkins could take our one commercial flight per day. What I’d really like to see is the land north of downtown developed and the land Burke sits on turned into a park. You can see in the image below that Cleveland’s most valuable land is a desert. Trying to change that. Do you think it is feasible? Why or why not?
September 6, 20195 yr I don't have the answer to your questions. Others have pointed out that Burke provides valuable relief for Hopkins for smaller planes. Sports teams bring their jets to Hopkins, whenever the President comes to town we don't have to completely shutter Hopkins, etc. There may be some redundancy between Burke and the county airport, I don't know. Hopkins does seem to be hemmed in by development and Burke does seem to be under-utilized. But I also don't get the obsession with closing Burke. Just looking at those red circles in your image above it seems like there are better places for cleaning up the lakefront for a park.
September 6, 20195 yr Just now, Foraker said: I don't have the answer to your questions. Others have pointed out that Burke provides valuable relief for Hopkins for smaller planes. Sports teams bring their jets to Hopkins, whenever the President comes to town we don't have to completely shutter Hopkins, etc. (Not to mention the benefits to the city of having the airshow at Burke.) There may be some redundancy between Burke and the county airport, I don't know. Hopkins does seem to be hemmed in by development and Burke does seem to be under-utilized. But I also don't get the obsession with closing Burke. Just looking at those red circles in your image above it seems like there are better places for cleaning up the lakefront for a park.
September 6, 20195 yr 3 minutes ago, Foraker said: I don't have the answer to your questions. Others have pointed out that Burke provides valuable relief for Hopkins for smaller planes. Sports teams bring their jets to Hopkins, whenever the President comes to town we don't have to completely shutter Hopkins, etc. There may be some redundancy between Burke and the county airport, I don't know. Hopkins does seem to be hemmed in by development and Burke does seem to be under-utilized. But I also don't get the obsession with closing Burke. Just looking at those red circles in your image above it seems like there are better places for cleaning up the lakefront for a park. I think that what he's saying is that if Burke were closed, the port could be moved to a part of the former airport (such as the northeast portion) with the former port site opened for development. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 6, 20195 yr 4 hours ago, Cleveland Trust said: Hello Cuyahoga County Airport enthusiast(s)! Im posting here looking for feed back. I have been doing some IRL activism to close an underperforming airport in Cleveland, Burke Lakefront Airport and was looking for some outsider perspective. There is data that suggests the party’s over at Burke. My question—based on this 2013 graph—would you support consolidating the three Cuyahoga County airports into two? Your airport could really gain traffic and Hopkins could take our one commercial flight per day. What I’d really like to see is the land north of downtown developed and the land Burke sits on turned into a park. You can see in the image below that Cleveland’s most valuable land is a desert. Trying to change that. Do you think it is feasible? Why or why not? Since Burke has the highest operational capacity, we should consolidate Akron-Canton and/or Cuyahoga County into Burke.
September 7, 20195 yr 18 hours ago, sizzlinbeef said: Since Burke has the highest operational capacity, we should consolidate Akron-Canton and/or Cuyahoga County into Burke. There is only one commercial flight out of Burke. A lot of the traffic is from three flight schools doing loops over the lake. https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KBKL That one commercial flight could easily be moved to Hopkins. Make Ultimate Air a sweetheart deal to move. Flight schools vould move move to County. Charter flights could be split between Hopkins and County. Redeveloping lakefront property will transform Cleveland in a way closing and redeveloping Akron’s airport wouldn’t. Plus, Burke and Hopkins are only a 15 minute drive away. I don’t think your idea would be good for Akron. Edited September 7, 20195 yr by Cleveland Trust
September 7, 20195 yr 18 hours ago, Foraker said: This has all been addressed. There are solutions to problems, there are benefits to change, My obsession is with making Cleveland one of the top cities in the US. We do that by closing Burke. https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2019/08/should-burke-lakefront-airport-close-coalition-keeps-important-question-alive-steven-litt.html
September 7, 20195 yr 4 hours ago, Cleveland Trust said: This has all been addressed. There are solutions to problems, there are benefits to change, My obsession is with making Cleveland one of the top cities in the US. We do that by closing Burke. https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2019/08/should-burke-lakefront-airport-close-coalition-keeps-important-question-alive-steven-litt.html Join the coalition then.
September 8, 20195 yr On 9/7/2019 at 5:48 AM, Cleveland Trust said: There is only one commercial flight out of Burke. A lot of the traffic is from three flight schools doing loops over the lake. https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KBKL That one commercial flight could easily be moved to Hopkins. Make Ultimate Air a sweetheart deal to move. Flight schools vould move move to County. Charter flights could be split between Hopkins and County. Redeveloping lakefront property will transform Cleveland in a way closing and redeveloping Akron’s airport wouldn’t. Plus, Burke and Hopkins are only a 15 minute drive away. I don’t think your idea would be good for Akron. You're leaving out all the Cleveland Clinic operations (both fixed and rotary wing). UH operations (rotary). Cleveland Police helicopters. Three major news organizations helicopters. And a host of other businesses operating out of there...
September 8, 20195 yr 14 minutes ago, Terdolph said: You make a good case for closing CCA and moving that traffic to Burke! Minus that Flight Options/Flexjet and affiliated Nextant Aerospace are based there and need to be because Burke is so hit or miss in the winter.
October 20, 20195 yr On 9/7/2019 at 5:48 AM, Cleveland Trust said: That one commercial flight could easily be moved to Hopkins. Make Ultimate Air a sweetheart deal to move. Except that Ultimate Air passengers don't go through TSA security screening before boarding. It's considered a chartered flight. How could that work at Hopkins? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 20, 20195 yr 14 hours ago, KJP said: Except that Ultimate Air passengers don't go through TSA security screening before boarding. It's considered a chartered flight. How could that work at Hopkins? They could operate out of one of Hopkins FBOs.
October 20, 20195 yr 2 hours ago, Cleburger said: They could operate out of one of Hopkins FBOs. I think that is cost prohibitive. Considering they would have to hire security personnel. Anyway, all of this is moot, as CCA, Burke and Hopkins will not change operations.
October 20, 20195 yr 19 minutes ago, MyTwoSense said: I think that is cost prohibitive. Considering they would have to hire security personnel. Anyway, all of this is moot, as CCA, Burke and Hopkins will not change operations. They would not have to hire security personnel if they operate out of a FBO. This is how their operation is at Cincinnati Lunken. They don't operate from the "terminal" there. They are operating as a charter service.
July 17, 20204 yr Flexjet, an international avaition fractional-ownership and business charter company, part of Kenn Ricci's aviation conglomerate, is building a new/expanded operations center at the county airport. 200 new jobs are predicted. The article doesn't say so, but I believe the jobs will be coming mostly from the Dallas area, where Flexjet had its ops center when Bombardier owned it. Ricci's companies are all privately-owned so they aren't required to say much, and they don't; but this is pretty big news - bigger than cleveland.com is making it. I believe Flexjet is ranked number two in the industry to Netjets, a Buffet company in Columbus. https://www.cleveland.com/community/2020/07/flexjet-is-planning-to-make-richmond-heights-location-at-county-airport-its-global-operations-center-belle-oaks-nca-holds-first-meetings.html Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
July 18, 20204 yr Great news for CGF! These are the kind of businesses the City of Cleveland should be trying to attract to Burke or Hopkins...but there are no incentives being offered. Cleveland is in a great geographic location for aviation businesses, with 2/3 of the population of North America within a 1-2 hour flight.
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