Posted February 28, 20241 yr City of Columbus, CDDC and Edwards Cos. partnering to bring downtown path to life The city of Columbus, Edwards Cos. and the Columbus Downtown Development Corp. are working together to develop the Capital Line, a 2-mile path that would better connect walkers and bikers to the urban core's amenities. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/02/28/downtown-columbus-capital-line-path-amenities-core.html?utm_source=st&utm_medium=en&utm_campaign=BN&utm_content=CO&ana=e_CO_BN&j=34505151&senddate=2024-02-28
February 28, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, columbus17 said: City of Columbus, CDDC and Edwards Cos. partnering to bring downtown path to life The city of Columbus, Edwards Cos. and the Columbus Downtown Development Corp. are working together to develop the Capital Line, a 2-mile path that would better connect walkers and bikers to the urban core's amenities. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/02/28/downtown-columbus-capital-line-path-amenities-core.html?utm_source=st&utm_medium=en&utm_campaign=BN&utm_content=CO&ana=e_CO_BN&j=34505151&senddate=2024-02-28 Just saw this! I’m really hoping they can pull this off and that it leads to more bike lane development. I still think there should be better separation than what the rendering shows. I would rather have an actual divide with some trees or shrubs in it. CU had a rendering of the 3rd and Gay spot and showed the empty parking lot as something that looked like a park, I would prefer a building, but park space is never a bad thing, especially in that area. Edited February 28, 20241 yr by VintageLife
February 28, 20241 yr Author Just now, VintageLife said: Just saw this! I’m really hoping they can pull this off and that it leads to more bike lane development. CU had a rendering of the 3rd and Gay spot and showed the empty parking lot as something that looked like a park, I would prefer a building, but park space is never a bad thing, especially in that area. Edwards is building one next to that
February 28, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, columbus17 said: Edwards is building one next to that You’re right, it does look like there is a rendering for a 7 or so story right there. I’ll take it and love the park space.
February 28, 20241 yr Author Just now, VintageLife said: You’re right, it does look like there is a rendering for a 7 or so story right there. I’ll take it and love the park space. Park space is conceptual but much needed there. What a great idea to convert a parking lot to a park.
February 28, 20241 yr First and foremost, this looks fantastic. I need them to move on this full speed ahead. Interesting that this seems to show that either Edwards or someone else has their eyes on the parking lot at 3rd & Gay and 36/40 Gay St for a midrise. I would have loved the 3rd & Gay lot to be a structure but I don't hate a "town square" if truly landscaped and activated correctly. Overall, this a. great looking proposal.
February 28, 20241 yr It would be great to see them gradually extending this into other neighborhoods as time goes on, as the article suggested, and with connections to a growing network of dedicated bike lanes across the city. I kind of wish some of the street sections being used would be fully pedestrianized, like Gay. I know the logistics of that are a bit different because of business-related deliveries and such, but there are plenty of much bigger, more traffic-clogged cities who have managed to do this. Still, it's a huge improvement to what's there now.
February 28, 20241 yr Author 12 minutes ago, DevolsDance said: First and foremost, this looks fantastic. I need them to move on this full speed ahead. Interesting that this seems to show that either Edwards or someone else has their eyes on the parking lot at 3rd & Gay and 36/40 Gay St for a midrise. I would have loved the 3rd & Gay lot to be a structure but I don't hate a "town square" if truly landscaped and activated correctly. Overall, this a. great looking proposal. 2028 completion, construction starts next year in four phases.
February 28, 20241 yr 23 minutes ago, VintageLife said: You’re right, it does look like there is a rendering for a 7 or so story right there. I’ll take it and love the park space. Anyone else notice a conceptual building roughly 15+ stories in the distance where Diamond Cellars is located on the right, and a much taller glass one on the left, which would suggest a building on top of where the LeVeque tower garage is? Probably just for rendering purposes but still. Also, I really hope they follow through which how much canopy cover is suggested in these renderings!!
February 28, 20241 yr 9 minutes ago, Gnoraa said: Anyone else notice a conceptual building roughly 15+ stories in the distance where Diamond Cellars is located on the right, and a much taller glass one on the left, which would suggest a building on top of where the LeVeque tower garage is? Probably just for rendering purposes but still. Also, I really hope they follow through which how much canopy cover is suggested in these renderings!! Nice catch, I did notice it but it didn’t register that it wasn’t there already. I feel like edwards isn’t done and if any of those buildings/parcels come up for sale, he would buy them. I’m excited to see what this area is like in 2030
February 28, 20241 yr 51 minutes ago, VintageLife said: You’re right, it does look like there is a rendering for a 7 or so story right there. I’ll take it and love the park space. That parking lot is pretty large, so definitely plenty of space for a new build and a plaza/park. Looks like the rendering has a dining patio along the new build overlooking the park. I’d love if that ends up happening too!
February 28, 20241 yr 5 minutes ago, amped91 said: That parking lot is pretty large, so definitely plenty of space for a new build and a plaza/park. Looks like the rendering has a dining patio along the new build overlooking the park. I’d love if that ends up happening too! Yes for sure, I caught that it was a new building after I posted initially. This would be a great addition to downtown, so hopefully they can make it happen.
February 28, 20241 yr 34 minutes ago, Gnoraa said: Anyone else notice a conceptual building roughly 15+ stories in the distance where Diamond Cellars is located on the right, and a much taller glass one on the left, which would suggest a building on top of where the LeVeque tower garage is? Probably just for rendering purposes but still. Also, I really hope they follow through which how much canopy cover is suggested in these renderings!! I think it looks like the Beacon building site, not Diamond Exchange. As for Leveque garage I believe it was once proposed to have a tower built atop it.
February 28, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, VintageLife said: You’re right, it does look like there is a rendering for a 7 or so story right there. I’ll take it and love the park space. This is Columbus?? WOW!! Is this Broad and High?
February 28, 20241 yr Looks great...but I wonder what the rationale is for picking Rich over Main? The only things I can think of are direct access to the Commons and maybe Rich Street bridge is a better option than Main Street bridge?? Other than that, I'd pick Main over Rich.
February 28, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, John7165 said: This is Columbus?? WOW!! Is this Broad and High? This rendering is 3rd and Gay
February 28, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, Whopper Jr said: Looks great...but I wonder what the rationale is for picking Rich over Main? The only things I can think of are direct access to the Commons and maybe Rich Street bridge is a better option than Main Street bridge?? Other than that, I'd pick Main over Rich. Maybe Main already has a different transit option that is planned?
February 28, 20241 yr 1. Can we move this to the general downtown plan thread? 2. It's wonderful 3. Will this finally help spur an AD to Peninsula Pedestrian bridge 20+ years later? 😉
February 28, 20241 yr On 2/20/2024 at 8:08 PM, NW24HX said: We should use this opportunity to finally realize the 90s proposal for the Serpent Mound canopy over the Broad St bridge Honestly I couldn't care less about where the Columbus statue ends up https://columbusunderground.com/never-built-columbus-serpent-mound-canopy-bw1/ With the news coming out today about the bike path, we should all spam Edwards emails about getting this installation to happen!
February 28, 20241 yr Author 22 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Maybe Main already has a different transit option that is planned? BINGO!
February 28, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, columbus17 said: BINGO! According to the LinkUs website, the East Main BRT will also run on Rich.
February 28, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, aderwent said: I think it looks like the Beacon building site, not Diamond Exchange. As for Leveque garage I believe it was once proposed to have a tower built atop it. Redevelopment of the Beacon building site is part of the latest Columbus Strategic Plan.
February 28, 20241 yr 17 minutes ago, PizzaScissors said: Redevelopment of the Beacon building site is part of the latest Columbus Strategic Plan. Good, that building deserves it!
February 28, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, PizzaScissors said: Redevelopment of the Beacon building site is part of the latest Columbus Strategic Plan. I hope that gorgeous building stays. They can build off the back but it will be another crime if the city demolishes it. It's unabashedly mid-century modern and deserves its place in the architectural preservation of the city.
February 28, 20241 yr Two-Mile Bike and Pedestrian Loop Planned for Downtown Significant changes could be coming to several key Downtown streets. A new plan unveiled today calls for a two-mile bike and pedestrian pathway, running along Gay, Fourth and Rich Streets and utilizing the Broad and Town Street bridges to cross the river over to the Scioto Peninsula. To be called the Capital Line, the trail would create a safe and physically protected path for people to ride or walk along the loop, and would eventually connect up with other bike lanes or paths to reach into the neighborhoods surrounding Downtown. The Columbus Downtown Development Corporation (CDDC), along with the City of Columbus and the Edwards Companies, made the announcement today. The first phase of the project would be the Gay Street section, which stretches from the river to North Fourth Street. Renderings show the amount of public right-of-way devoted to cars and to parking on the street dramatically reduced, turned over instead to a wide pathway for cyclists and pedestrians. Also shown is new public art, landscaped medians, a parking lot converted into a public plaza, and the potential to close Gay Street to car traffic all together for special events, like a Christmas market. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/two-mile-bike-and-pedestrian-loop-planned-for-downtown-bw1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 28, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Surprised this graphic doesn't include Astor park as a gray area while at the same time highlighting the need to focus on the West AD and GIVE US THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE ALREADY 😅
February 28, 20241 yr 31 minutes ago, DTCL11 said: I hope that gorgeous building stays. They can build off the back but it will be another crime if the city demolishes it. It's unabashedly mid-century modern and deserves its place in the architectural preservation of the city. I highly doubt it will be demoed.
February 28, 20241 yr 41 minutes ago, VintageLife said: I highly doubt it will be demoed. You have much more faith than I do then.
February 28, 20241 yr Just now, DTCL11 said: You have much more faith than I do then. I mean it’s just actual observation. The majority of historic buildings that have been demoed recently had a) “structural damage” or b) are small 1-2 story buildings that aren’t contributing. this building is probably one of the only like it in the area and the sign alone is a historic feature that people would lose their minds over.
February 28, 20241 yr 20 minutes ago, VintageLife said: I mean it’s just actual observation. The majority of historic buildings that have been demoed recently had a) “structural damage” or b) are small 1-2 story buildings that aren’t contributing. this building is probably one of the only like it in the area and the sign alone is a historic feature that people would lose their minds The right 'structural damage' is just a matter of paying the right 'structural engineer'. The right developer gives the the right amount of money and it's gone. A chip in the marble and a corroborating report saying it's unsound and the demo will be approved. The city only cares about whether the developer who eventually owns the land can afford to restore it. If not, get the engineer report, get stamp of approval for demo and done. It's not about excusing what the city has approved for demo, or is about to. They have clearly shown that it takes very little for them to fold. Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerve, and Talent doesn't matter to them. If a developer wants it gone, it goes. That's the track record. That's the observation. So unless the city plan stipulates it must be preserved, at least in large part, as a condition of redevelopment, I'll trust it as much as a fart after eating a pint of ice cream before realizing I forgot to take lactaid.
February 28, 20241 yr Pretty pictures aside, my first impressions are that this belongs on Broad St, not Gay, and also that it isn't quite large enough of a loop to really be useful... The Indy cultural trail is 8 miles, and was completed 11 years ago. So, 15 years later we'll have something 1/4 the size, and one that leaves out the Discovery District entirely. We should aim bigger IMO Also, I understand Edwards wants this route because it hits the most properties he owns or has interest in, but functionally and spatially a dedicated two-way cycle track makes much more sense on Broad than Gay. If it must be on Gay, at least one side of street parking should be preserved Edited February 28, 20241 yr by NW24HX
February 28, 20241 yr ^One of the articles mentioned Broad specifically wasn’t included because other plans are in the works. LinkUS is one of them, wouldn’t be surprised if some sort of widened pedestrian lane were added too.
February 29, 20241 yr 13 minutes ago, amped91 said: ^One of the articles mentioned Broad specifically wasn’t included because other plans are in the works. LinkUS is one of them, wouldn’t be surprised if some sort of widened pedestrian lane were added too. That line is supposed to have bike lanes, but sadly they aren’t protected, for some reason. Maybe after hearing feedback for this project, they will change it before it happens.
February 29, 20241 yr 25 minutes ago, amped91 said: ^One of the articles mentioned Broad specifically wasn’t included because other plans are in the works. LinkUS is one of them, wouldn’t be surprised if some sort of widened pedestrian lane were added too. It'd be nice if we could see those plans to better understand how well all these different initiatives are going to work together
February 29, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, NW24HX said: The Indy cultural trail is 8 miles, and was completed 11 years ago. So, 15 years later we'll have something 1/4 the size, and one that leaves out the Discovery District entirely. We should aim bigger IMO Wait til folks see how far along Indy is on BRT too
February 29, 20241 yr 57 minutes ago, NW24HX said: It'd be nice if we could see those plans to better understand how well all these different initiatives are going to work together https://linkuscolumbus.com/rapid-transit-corridors/ 😂
February 29, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, amped91 said: https://linkuscolumbus.com/rapid-transit-corridors/ 😂 A bubble diagram and some concept renderings are not a plan. We'll be voting on this in November and design is supposedly well past 60%, there should be more openness about the actual plans being developed and more public engagement throughout this whole process. Have there been any public meetings over the last year? The most recent I can find is December 2022. This is another thing Indy was much better at when developing their BRT Edited February 29, 20241 yr by NW24HX
February 29, 20241 yr Author 3 hours ago, NW24HX said: Pretty pictures aside, my first impressions are that this belongs on Broad St, not Gay, and also that it isn't quite large enough of a loop to really be useful... The Indy cultural trail is 8 miles, and was completed 11 years ago. So, 15 years later we'll have something 1/4 the size, and one that leaves out the Discovery District entirely. We should aim bigger IMO Also, I understand Edwards wants this route because it hits the most properties he owns or has interest in, but functionally and spatially a dedicated two-way cycle track makes much more sense on Broad than Gay. If it must be on Gay, at least one side of street parking should be preserved This is a tidbit of what is actually in the works.
March 1, 20241 yr How Jeff Edwards sees the Capital Line transforming downtown Columbus Columbus, Edwards Cos. and the Columbus Downtown Development Corp. announced Wednesday they are working together to develop the Capital Line, a 2-mile path that would better connect walkers and bikers to the urban core's amenities. The path would run along Gay Street, cross the river along Broad Street, run through The Peninsula down Belle Street and then cross back over along Rich Street and finally connect back to Gay via 4th Street. That route runs near several projects from Edwards Cos., one of downtown's busiest developers. Edwards Cos. CEO Jeff Edwards talked with Columbus Business First about the $100 million project and how it may change downtown Columbus. He says the path would solve a key issue holding back activity downtown: a lack of connectivity. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/02/29/capital-line-path-downtown-columbus-downtown.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 1, 20241 yr Connecting Downtown: Here Comes The Capital Line Columbus Mayor Andrew J. Ginther and Edwards Companies President and CEO Jeff Edwards announced at a Columbus Metropolitan Club forum a $100 million project to connect Downtown Columbus’ most attractive assets. The CMC forum, State of Downtown: Downtown’s Next Big Transformation, took place Wednesday, February 28, 2024, and was devoted mainly to discussion of The Capital Line. The two-mile bike and pedestrian path will run along Gay, Rich and 4th streets before crossing the river and finishing on Belle Street in Franklinton. Planning and engineering work on The Capital Line is set for this year, with construction starting in 2025. The project will be in four phases, with the final phase completed by 2028, Edwards said. “This is not just a plan,” Edwards said. “This is going to happen.” Funding will come from various private, public and philanthropic sources. “We’re working hard to line up other sources,” Ginther said. “We know how to do big things and leverage public-private partnerships better than anybody in America.” More below: https://columbusunderground.com/connecting-downtown-here-comes-the-capital-line-tf2/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 1, 20241 yr One question I have is how this will be built on the Broad Street bridge and that part of Broad in general. I can't see them doing much or any sort of road diet on that section with the planned BRT line, so how are they going to accomodate this? Just use the existing sidewalks? Edited March 1, 20241 yr by jonoh81
March 1, 20241 yr 1 minute ago, jonoh81 said: One question I have is how this will be built on the Broad Street bridge and that part of Broad in general. I can't see them doing much or any sort of road diet on that section with the planned BRT line, so how are they going to accomodate this? Just use the existing sidewalks? That is a good question. I feel like the broad st bridge is super wide and they probably could just add some space to the sidewalks and still have room for brt and traffic lanes.
March 5, 20241 yr On 3/1/2024 at 5:05 PM, VintageLife said: That is a good question. I feel like the broad st bridge is super wide and they probably could just add some space to the sidewalks and still have room for brt and traffic lanes. There's a middle lane over the bridge that is not utilized, unless the BRT is going to remove that lane. If not, the lanes could shift towards the center to allow for this Downtown Capital line.
May 22, 20241 yr Author Did some digging and found the entire capital line plan: https://issuu.com/realmdesign/docs/2024-04-05_cddc_capital_line_riverfront_study_real
May 22, 20241 yr 50 minutes ago, columbus17 said: Did some digging and found the entire capital line plan: https://issuu.com/realmdesign/docs/2024-04-05_cddc_capital_line_riverfront_study_real Would love for it to happen just like that. Hopefully they can get it all done.
May 22, 20241 yr I swear to Jesus, if we get a pedestrian bridge from the Downtown core to the Peninsula before the AD to the Peninsula because of this plan....
May 22, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, columbus17 said: Did some digging and found the entire capital line plan: https://issuu.com/realmdesign/docs/2024-04-05_cddc_capital_line_riverfront_study_real Looks like that's just for the riverfront portion. Still exciting though!
May 22, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, DTCL11 said: I swear to Jesus, if we get a pedestrian bridge from the Downtown core to the Peninsula before the AD to the Peninsula because of this plan.... If you go through that link, it appears they were/are considering 4 options, and (shockingly) seem to prefer the option with arguably the least overall potential impact and investment that would build zero new connections. It would mostly be about doing a road diet on the existing bridge and adding landscaping. I don't think the bridge to the AD is happening anytime soon. Edited May 22, 20241 yr by jonoh81
May 22, 20241 yr 34 minutes ago, jonoh81 said: If you go through that link, it appears they were/are considering 4 options, and (shockingly) seem to prefer the option with arguably the least overall potential impact and investment that would build zero new connections. It would mostly be about doing a road diet on the existing bridge and adding landscaping. I don't think the bridge to the AD is happening anytime soon. That's what I mean and my point of reference for my comment. I'll be upset since that's some of the options. In the meantime, the AD to Peninsula bridge concept that the city has included in every master plan for over 20 years falls off the wayside so we can better connect blocks of government offices and corporate offices instead of finally prioritizing connection the highest concentrations of residential develop and regional attractions. I feel like these don't appropriately take in to account Link US. Notice that all these have buses mixed with traffic but LinkUS specifies West Broad should have dedicated median downtown to Hilltop and then mixed traffic past Hilltop. So these two proposals aren't cohesive. Also, I'd love this to include artwork under the bridges. The board street bridge already has preformed areas perfect for murals at the minimum if not hanging sculptures. Edited May 22, 20241 yr by DTCL11
May 23, 20241 yr Author 1 hour ago, DTCL11 said: That's what I mean and my point of reference for my comment. I'll be upset since that's some of the options. In the meantime, the AD to Peninsula bridge concept that the city has included in every master plan for over 20 years falls off the wayside so we can better connect blocks of government offices and corporate offices instead of finally prioritizing connection the highest concentrations of residential develop and regional attractions. I feel like these don't appropriately take in to account Link US. Notice that all these have buses mixed with traffic but LinkUS specifies West Broad should have dedicated median downtown to Hilltop and then mixed traffic past Hilltop. So these two proposals aren't cohesive. Also, I'd love this to include artwork under the bridges. The board street bridge already has preformed areas perfect for murals at the minimum if not hanging sculptures. I don't like these plans that much. They're too spontaneous. I'd rather see something more in alignment with the 1908 Packard plan - something stately and architecturally interesting.
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