37 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

To be frank - his primary concern is working with firemen, police, and small businesses. Usually if he takes up a cause outside of that purview it's as a favor. 

 

And I mean it in the sense that he's a good father and good guy overall. At the end of the day, I promise you he won't hold this up as long as the city meets with him (pie me in the face if I'm wrong lol). Having said that, I don't love that he carriers water for the biggest tool in Cuyahoga County

 

Don't they qualify as a "small business" though, especially with property in the area in question?   They may not be popular with the urbanist crowd, but they do have skin in the game.   And live in his district.

39 minutes ago, E Rocc said:

 

Don't they qualify as a "small business" though, especially with property in the area in question?   They may not be popular with the urbanist crowd, but they do have skin in the game.   And live in his district.

 

For an anti-big government guy, you sure are looking the other way on this. This is every bit of a big-government shotgun blast that affects more than just the 2100 block of Superior Avenue. This affects every major city in Ohio that is trying to become habitable again, and move away from the kind of truck-friendly urbanism the Georges espouse.

This is all about saint Patricks day parade.........

27 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

For an anti-big government guy, you sure are looking the other way on this. This is every bit of a big-government shotgun blast that affects more than just the 2100 block of Superior Avenue. This affects every major city in Ohio that is trying to become habitable again, and move away from the kind of truck-friendly urbanism the Georges espouse.

 

Conservatives tend to be good with laws that restrain government, even when they come from higher levels of same.   The Bill of Rights, for example, only applies to government entities.    Not to individuals or corporations.

6 minutes ago, mack34 said:

This is all about saint Patricks day parade.........

 

Elaborate.   That's not necessarily a bad thing, how much $$$ does it bring to downtown businesses?

1 hour ago, E Rocc said:

 

Conservatives tend to be good with laws that restrain government, even when they come from higher levels of same.   The Bill of Rights, for example, only applies to government entities.    Not to individuals or corporations.

Source on the first sentence?

1 hour ago, E Rocc said:

 

Elaborate.   That's not necessarily a bad thing, how much $$$ does it bring to downtown businesses?

This 2018 article cites a $15 million economic impact for the parade. However, the point seems a bit moot because there’s no reason to suggest a parade re-route would diminish that number. 

 

And on the flip side, there are an abundance of studies that demonstrate that protected bike lanes offer economic benefits to business in neighborhoods where they are present. A 2015 summary from CityLab, a more recent report from Portland, and even more here. And just for fun, one more recent article from Wired.

 

 

short-lived controversy

Edited February 22, 20232 yr by Whipjacka

Well that's refreshing.

Good to hear!! Side note I hate that last paragraph with such a fake excuse like "uhhh it was meant to be controversial to start a conversation that's all!! I promise I wasn't serious!!" like come on at least stand behind your crappy decisions. 

13 hours ago, JB said:

Source on the first sentence?

 

More years in and around the movement than I care to admit.

^^^^

 

This struck me as a warning shot all along.   Local governments sometimes prioritize voters over other stakeholders.   Not to say the state doesn't, but in this case more stakeholders are voters.

Edited February 23, 20232 yr by E Rocc

14 hours ago, Whipjacka said:

short-lived controversy

Heartwarming. Good to see confirmation that well placed dollars can influence the democratic process so transparently. 

Boy Patton is really getting torn apart in the media today.

^ Good. I wonder if his George money still feels worth it. 

6 hours ago, E Rocc said:

 

More years in and around the movement than I care to admit.

So no source. Got it.

 

On 2/22/2023 at 5:29 PM, Whipjacka said:

short-lived controversy

 

Lol yeah he was fed a line about why it was bad from TG and his son... and then he got in contact with the city annnnnnnnnnnd it's gone

On 2/24/2023 at 6:48 AM, KJP said:

 

 

@KJP Love this! 

 

.... but how many burner emails did UOers utilize for this???? 😆

I was off work with COVID and it gave me the perfect opportunity to tune into the Budget Hearings (woo, exciting times). I mentioned it on twitter but NOACA's Grace Gallucci did a great job taking the heat from Patton while also hitting back with facts and rational responses.

 

I think Gallucci helped show that Patton's argument wasn't in good faith and Rep Skindell did a great job voicing just how many people have been involved up until this point (Patton had said that not all stakeholders were involved, which was a crock of it).

 

Really great job by all involved. I still think Patton deserves to get booed at the St. Pats Parade for burying a poison pill 175 pages into a bill, but that's just me.

Edited February 28, 20232 yr by GISguy

34 minutes ago, GISguy said:

I was off work with COVID and it gave me the perfect opportunity to tune into the Budget Hearings (woo, exciting times). I mentioned it on twitter but NOACA's Grace Gallucci did a great job taking the heat from Patton while also hitting back with facts and rational responses.

Glad to hear that we've got good leadership in NOACA

On 2/28/2023 at 11:59 AM, GISguy said:

I was off work with COVID and it gave me the perfect opportunity to tune into the Budget Hearings (woo, exciting times). I mentioned it on twitter but NOACA's Grace Gallucci did a great job taking the heat from Patton while also hitting back with facts and rational responses.

 

I think Gallucci helped show that Patton's argument wasn't in good faith and Rep Skindell did a great job voicing just how many people have been involved up until this point (Patton had said that not all stakeholders were involved, which was a crock of it).

 

Really great job by all involved. I still think Patton deserves to get booed at the St. Pats Parade for burying a poison pill 175 pages into a bill, but that's just me.

 

Why boo him when tomatoes exist.

15 minutes ago, ASP1984 said:

 

Why boo him when tomatoes exist.

 

*Potatoes 

More new tree box installations, this time on the Prospect portion of Tower City

Makes such a positive difference!!  Imagine when they start filling out in the warm months..,

Edited March 10, 20232 yr by CleveFan

After the Skylight Park debacle, I wasn’t optimistic about this project. But it’s going to make a huge difference aesthetically, when walking around that area. They’re high quality planters. Just need to make sure someone keeps em watered. 

Edited March 10, 20232 yr by marty15

 

From Kyiv to Cleveland, art firm HQ moves

By Ken Prendergast / March 24, 2023

 

Founded in Ukraine nearly two decades ago, Dion Art has been expanding thanks to stunning, innovative public art projects and a stabilizing, growing nation. When that growth slowed to a trickle a year ago when Russia began its all-out invasion of Ukraine, its founder and his friend made a choice — move Dion Art to Cleveland.

 

MORE 

https://neo-trans.blog/2023/03/24/from-kyiv-to-cleveland-art-firm-hq-moves/

Wow! Fantastic article Ken @KJP. Can't wait to see their artwork pop up around the city, especially those three polygons. Beautiful.

It also inspired me to go check out the Green Goat cafe which I will now be doing this weekend.

I have always said that Cleveland needs more fountains. I'm aware of the weather here, but they can still be great art pieces in the winter months.

And how cool of them to finance the polygons themselves. Any word on when we can expect these?

28 minutes ago, GREGinPARMA said:

It also inspired me to go check out the Green Goat cafe which I will now be doing this weekend.

 

(not to derail the thread!! but..) Just FYI Green Goat is a George business, do with that what ya please. 

Edited March 24, 20232 yr by GISguy

35 minutes ago, GREGinPARMA said:

Wow! Fantastic article Ken @KJP. Can't wait to see their artwork pop up around the city, especially those three polygons. Beautiful.

It also inspired me to go check out the Green Goat cafe which I will now be doing this weekend.

I have always said that Cleveland needs more fountains. I'm aware of the weather here, but they can still be great art pieces in the winter months.

And how cool of them to finance the polygons themselves. Any word on when we can expect these?

 

Thanks! They are due to be installed sometime this spring.

This a type of company we definitely need downtown. Cool, interesting stuff to activate spaces. They can use all of downtown as their showroom of wares for potential clients. 

Edited March 24, 20232 yr by marty15

Short of reading about a new high rise coming soon to downtown these kind of stories are just the thing we need. New immigrants, new business and new public art.

 

Love it!

“and last but least, the third will honor the United States of America” 🤭

Oops! Thanks! Fixed!

Mad props to whoever decided to add the steel art-deco-ish design to the planters on Huron outside the Landmark building! It's a small touch, but these small little details go so far. More of this attention to detail please! 

 

They also draw attention to, and compliment, the landmark building, which is a very underappreciated building

 

 

 

 

Also, they added seating outside of the Prospect entry to Tower City. 

 

Long long overdue. And hopefully things like this can be implemented in other parts of downtown. Now… for the love of all that is good PLEASE have a plan to maintain these!!!! Don’t let them go 

I am guessing it is important to choose the correct type of trees for those planters in that location.  That area does not get a ton of sun.

29 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

I am guessing it is important to choose the correct type of trees for those planters in that location.  

Hopefully, @Htsguy, they are not getting their plant recommendations from the same folks who designed the fountain park just inside.  😏

 

PS: thanks for the assist. Couldn't resistance such an easy layup.

36 minutes ago, DO_Summers said:

Hopefully, @Htsguy, they are not getting their plant recommendations from the same folks who designed the fountain park just inside.  😏

 

PS: thanks for the assist. Couldn't resistance such an easy layup.

That thing should just be KABOOMed.  No accounting for taste.

Haven't walked over the Detroit-Superior bridge in a while and, oh boy, was it a mess! Besides the usual trash strewn about (not pictured), the entire north sidewalk was crumbling and the bike lane on the south side wasn't looking great either. There were huge chunks of concrete everywhere, the poorly designed walkway is really showing its age. Definitely think it's time for a refresh, hopefully in the near future.

 

 

Edited April 12, 20232 yr by andrew0816

I walk it about once a week. It’s been increasingly shabby for years, but really went south over this winter. 

Yeah, that bridge has been an unenjoyable pedestrian experience for the last few years. Before it closed for repairs, I would always opt for the Center Street Bridge. Even if it makes the walk a bit longer, it is such a more enjoyable route that it's worth the extra time.

 

Any creative ideas on how to spruce up the bridge? Obviously resurfacing and cleaning it up are the immediately obvious necessities, but it could also really benefit from some kind of public art.

 

The biggest, easiest (and least likely) improvement would be to remove the suicide prevention fence so that people can actually see off the bridge. As it is, while you can see through the fence the posts are close enough together that they feel like a wall. (For anyone who's not aware, the chain link shown in the pictures is only on small sections of the bridge, most of it is much harder to see through).

Although I don’t see it happening, removing the suicide fencing would be a real big improvement. If you try to look from the bridge and take in the view while you’re walking, it has the same effect as looking at a zoetrope. It’s very disorienting. 

24 minutes ago, roman totale XVII said:

Although I don’t see it happening, removing the suicide fencing would be a real big improvement. If you try to look from the bridge and take in the view while you’re walking, it has the same effect as looking at a zoetrope. It’s very disorienting. 

 

It makes me genuinely queasy to try to look through that fence while I cross the bridge, but the view is so nice!

 

Maybe the suicide fencing could be swapped out for some underside netting, which has proven effective without denigrating the public sphere.

7 minutes ago, X said:

 

It makes me genuinely queasy to try to look through that fence while I cross the bridge, but the view is so nice!

 

Maybe the suicide fencing could be swapped out for some underside netting, which has proven effective without denigrating the public sphere.

Ya. Something needs to be there for safety. The suicide fencing is there for a legit reason. It used to be a fan favorite spot. Now it's the Harvard/Denison bridge. 

14 minutes ago, KFM44107 said:

Ya. Something needs to be there for safety. The suicide fencing is there for a legit reason. It used to be a fan favorite spot. Now it's the Harvard/Denison bridge. 

I believe the Hilliard Bridge over Rocky River valley is a common spot too.

Yikes! Didn't realize how badly the bridge has gotten. Short of turning our weather into Florida l think the best way to handle this is to make the surrounding neighborhood so popular that it will be impossible to ignore the deterioration. That's how a democracy works...squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Streetlight out on E 105th...

 

New sidewalk on Cedar

13 hours ago, sonisharri said:

Streetlight out on E 105th...

 

New sidewalk on Cedar

Do you know what will be installed between the new sidewalk and the street? Trees, grass, planters, asphalt ( :-))?

 

our luck they'll just add another lane to the road now that they have the space 😆