[/member]TVNewsLady

I’ve discovered Cleveland has some beautiful murals all over the city that make the perfect backdrop for photos! Hope you’ll watch my [/member]cleveland19news story Wednesday [/member] 11pm to see where some of the most popular ones are:

http://www.cleveland19.com/2018/09/25/clevelands-murals-boost-business-exposure-hidden-corners-land/

 

 

 

 

Bummed the D in the CLEVELAND mural doesn't encompass the Monsters.

Or Gladiatores (regardless that they are on a hiatus until 2020)

doubt there will ever be any more of gladiators, but that's a convo for the sports page.

 

Wow, that is actually so much Cleveland and not a freeloader.

 

Kuddos to Sherwin Williams

This is a random observation but I was driving downtown today and Ontario St. between Public Square and Prospect has to be one of the most unsightly streets downtown...  Not one tree, the empty building Bedrock owns is dirty, the May Co. garage is still mostly just awful, plus the west side along the Higbee is nothing but one bus stop after another (Why are there so many concentrated here?) most of which are littered with trash.  The Casino itself is a lifeless wall and half the curtains were messily arranged...  I hope if it is sold the upkeep will be better.  Just my personal rant ? Most of these things could be easily fixed.  I just wish that strip could be cleaned up...  Anyone else ever notice this?

Mr Clifton,  I agree. 
I would add that the Landmark Towers (Midland Bank) are among the chief detractors along this strip.  For all their spectacular beauty and architectural achievement, could a more wondrously elegant structure be employed to any less success than this? 
It's not that there are shallow pocket tenants in these buildings owned outright by one of our city's top corporate citizens.  Shame on Sherwin Williams for neglecting an opportunity to spruce up the neighborhood surrounding their headquarters. 
I know everyone loves the new banner on one wall in support of the Cavs, but the unfinished brick facade on those south and eastern facing sides of the  tower (for 88 years) are also an unsightly blight on the city. They speak regularly to a national audience about stagnation and slow growth of Cleveland's urban core. 

Edited October 21, 20186 yr by ExPatClevGuy

Sky bridges certainly don't help, either!

The city should have someone that looks at that kind of thing and makes sensible recommendations to improve aesthetics. 

I always wished there would be some ground floor retail in the Landmark Towers.  I think there used to be a bank in part of the ground floor??  Something in there would give a bit more life to the area.  It's definitely in need of something!!!

^Yes, there was a bank branch there. These are photos of just the vestibule area so you can imagine the main banking "hall":

 

 

I used to bank at that Firstmerit Branch for years.  It was a very grand space to make my little deposits, for sure!

 

I saw this yesterday. It definitely grabs your attention!

 

 

On 11/18/2018 at 6:23 PM, CleveFan said:

Agree with MrClifton - the Ohio Bell building doesn’t get the love it deserves.  A good scrubbing and some creative lighting is definitely in order to highlight the building’s classic Art Deco look. And how cool would an apartment be where you could watch the Tribe win a World Series, in person, without buying a ticket! 

 

I've always thought it was odd that the Ohio Bell building doesn't have a lit crown at night considering how integral illumination was for the Art Deco style. Could you imagine the dramatic difference of our skyline at night with an illuminated Ohio Bell building, preferably without the giant AT&T logo ?

 

Wow! I thought that video looked great. What are the odds of a park actually happening there? Probably not great but it seems to dramatically improve the area at a negligible cost.

 

Wow that video's awesome, great vision overall.

 

Isn't the Cleveland Thermal Plant out of commission ever since they upgraded the Lakeside plant? I see a lot of potential to make a connection between Gateway and the flats (especially with all the speculation going on down there- Thunderbird, Great Lakes, (?)Football Stadium, etc.). Right now it's like they gave up on pedestrians past the old viaduct/crosswalk.

 

Additionally, and it isn't building and projects speculation, more of an observation, but overall Gateway is pretty well incorporated with the area, and with NuCLEus, it'll be moreso. I think about other cities (Buffalo in particular), how the arena and baseball seems disconnected from all but 3 or 4 restaurants. It's exciting how you can come down on an event night (or really, any night for that matter), and there's a buzz, not all cities can say that.

 

PS- The Browns moving wasn't great, but at the same time it probably was a huge benefit that we didn't combine the football/baseball stadiums when it was proposed, if that were the case who knows what Gateway would look like today...

 

On 3/10/2019 at 9:50 PM, freethink said:

There is a stretch of chain link fence across from Progressive Field and the Q on your left as you drive down Ontario. It starts at about Eagle Ave. and ends as you make the left turn onto Huron. It is rusted and weed infested and it runs along a broken up sidewalk. The city is so negligent in things like this. I have even emailed council members over the years. Well maybe someone else has finally noticed this. I found this conceptual video from AoDK and the Cleveland Leadership Center. At least someone is thinking about it.

 

 

Reminds me of the HIGH LINE on lower west side of Manhattan.  This idea rocks!

 

Love everything about this concept!

 

On 3/12/2019 at 1:39 AM, dave2017 said:

Love everything about this concept!

 

I like it a lot too. Although I wish Downtown could have some more family friendly amenities such as a playground or something. There's really not a lot of green space Downtown or that many parks nearby.

 

Hmm...Further evidence that we are being watched...

 

https://expo.cleveland.com/life-and-culture/g66l-2019/03/ad2d745c99592/grassroots-plan-for-running-biking-loop-over-downtown-bridges-deserves-support-steven-litt.html

 

On 3/12/2019 at 11:45 AM, imjustinjk said:

 

I like it a lot too. Although I wish Downtown could have some more family friendly amenities such as a playground or something. There's really not a lot of green space Downtown or that many parks nearby.

 

Not a lot of Green Space??  ???‍♂️?  I disagree. with that.    There are a lot of Green spaces, but they are mixed use and not designated by age or specific activity/use.  I will agree, a proper playground or two wouldn't hurt. 

 

As more and more family units move into Downtown, to experience vertical living, family needs (elementary schools, pediatricians, playgrounds, retail, etc.) will need to be addressed.  Hopefully this will be discussed sooner rather than later.

 

On 3/17/2019 at 1:22 PM, freethink said:

Hmm...Further evidence that we are being watched...

 

https://expo.cleveland.com/life-and-culture/g66l-2019/03/ad2d745c99592/grassroots-plan-for-running-biking-loop-over-downtown-bridges-deserves-support-steven-litt.html

Two thoughts:

1. Wow that’s a great idea.

2. Wow our riverfront sucks! 

 

Walkable, liveable  - we always hear these keywords used to describe what kind of city we’re trying to build - this idea makes so much sense that you wonder why it shouldn’t happen as fast as possible. We’re rightly focused  on buildings and development in this forum but when the dialogue is about how to create  a more desireable daily lifestyle - like this running/ bike loop  - I think it inevitably leads to a more attractive and dynamic city - where people want to be - and where new development organically follows. 

 

Fantastic plan.  Everyone involved should be proud and making a lot of noise to attract the attention of those who can move this forward.

 

Unfortunately, the part of Litt's article that didn't surprise me at all is:   "The Jackson administration did not respond to a request for comment."

 

This is the most closed off and uninvolved administration that I can remember.  It would be nice if Mayor Jackson could take his head out of the sand long enough to comment on something beneficial for the city.  

 

It is unfortunate that we do not have the leadership to make this a reality.

 

Fantastic idea. This reminds me of a smaller version of the Hudson River Greenway in NYC. As someone who hopes to live downtown in the upcoming years, and someone who runs almost every day, this would be great to see happen and would make downtown even more desirable. 

 

My only issue with the design is that I wish the path was wider. 

 

Litt states a price-tag of $1 million for the AoDK design, unless I'm misunderstood. Does that seem like a realistic cost estimate for this project, 'cause if so that doesn't feel too unattainable. 

 

If at all possible I would transform the Cuyahoga waterfront to the likes of the San Antonio riverwalk. A Venice-like attraction that is actually a story below street level. Its got lots of water features including artificial waterfalls, plenty of organized plant life like none other, and plenty of food and shops on the lower level of the riverwalk. If we could somehow revitalize the Cuyahoga to be more than a port stop and make it a lively place to eat, walk, and shop.

 

^ not a weed-choked chain link fence in sight. At some point in time the people and leadership in SA found a way. Why can’t Cleveland Ohio look like that? 

 

On 3/18/2019 at 2:07 AM, surfohio said:

^ not a weed-choked chain link fence in sight. At some point in time the people and leadership in SA found a way. Why can’t Cleveland Ohio look like that? 

 

This is their major attraction. So it gets lots of attention and maintenance.  What about other portions of the San Antonio? 

 

Why compare Cleveland with other cities when you're not comparing the cities as a whole?  It makes no sense.

 

On 3/18/2019 at 2:07 AM, surfohio said:

^ not a weed-choked chain link fence in sight. At some point in time the people and leadership in SA found a way. Why can’t Cleveland Ohio look like that? 

 

What does the rest of San Antonio look like? 

 

On 3/18/2019 at 8:29 AM, KJP said:

 

What does the rest of San Antonio look like? 

 

Highways

 

If I'm not mistaken, the San Antonio river walk is man made.  Thus, it can be easily manipulated.  They are able to drain the river walk and clean debris from it as well. 

 

The San Antonio River Walk is very nice, but it is essentially a ride at Epcot.  You can't compare it to a working industrial river

 

Also, neither the San Antonio Riverwalk, nor the Cuyahoga River are located in the Gateway District.  So back on topic, folks!

 

I've been to San Antonio several times. I actually went the first time just to see the Riverwalk. It's pretty amazing - nothing like it anywhere else in the US. And yes, it is a little Epcoty but so what. It works, it's beautiful and it's idiot proof as a tourist item. Meaning it's safe and readily accessible to all the major hotels. It has even been extended up river with a lock added ( a fun activity). Of course major residential/shopping has developed all along the river path so as an urban attraction it works in spades.

 

The rest of the city is pretty nice too. There's a hop on hop off bus that takes you to the local neighborhood sites and all in all I thought San Antonio was a very nice city. Oddly enough, for me at least, I was a little disappointed in the Alamo and I'm a history buff. 

 

As for re-creating something like that with the Cuyahoga it really is an apples /oranges thing. Both rivers are very different geologically. The San Antonio is more of a trench while we have a wide river valley. That being said, we should absolutely continue to develop what we have along our river. More housing, boardwalk/trails, extend the river taxi. promote more water activity and yes, I know there is a tension between recreational and working activity but we ought to be able to figure out ways in which both can share the river. We have a river. Take advantage of it. 

 

Well I see my reply is off topic now. Sorry.

 

On 3/18/2019 at 7:10 AM, MyTwoSense said:

 

This is their major attraction. So it gets lots of attention and maintenance.  What about other portions of the San Antonio? 

 

Why compare Cleveland with other cities when you're not comparing the cities as a whole?  It makes no sense.

The topic-within-a-topic-is pedestrian experience. Gateway is literally fenced off from the water; it’s a car-first part of town. It shouldn’t be. It borders the river. There should be better access to the river. The current situation is an embarrassment as Gateway is a major attraction. There’s a casino and TWO major league sports venues. The comparison makes sense. 

 

17 hours ago, surfohio said:

The topic-within-a-topic-is pedestrian experience. Gateway is literally fenced off from the water; it’s a car-first part of town. It shouldn’t be. It borders the river. There should be better access to the river. The current situation is an embarrassment as Gateway is a major attraction. There’s a casino and TWO major league sports venues. The comparison makes sense. 

 

You should have written this in your fist post as it would have added context.  Have you been to the RiverWalk in person?  What reasons should the area be open to the public other than "just to"?  However, my comments and response about comparing this small portion of San Antonio to Cleveland makes no sense.  Should something be built here?  Yes.  Thinking outside the box and building something across Ontario would be great.  At one point there was a plan to build a Marriott branded hotel.  

 

Looking at the video KJP posted, those overlooks and perches are great but there would still be NO access to the river. I would like to point out that the access to the water would be prohibited by the working rail lines. Nor would there be anything of interest to view.  Sans, ships navigating the river in spring, summer and winter.  If the area was to be developed there would need to be more than just benches and a public art.  There need to be something that compliments - not competes with - the businesses on Huron, Prospect, East 4 and East 9 Street.  Perhaps a seasonal popup.  an area featuring local food trucks, along with and informational and historical displays/Installations detailing the history of the area and why it's called "collision bend". 

 

In late January and February when it's below freezing, how many people are going to stroll or run in that area?  How many people are really going to use that land year round?  It's easy to say, "we need to build x thing because x city has x thing" when there not comparable in any form or fashion. 

 

On 3/18/2019 at 10:55 AM, X said:

Also, neither the San Antonio Riverwalk, nor the Cuyahoga River are located in the Gateway District.  So back on topic, folks!

 

Can you move the discussion to the Transportation or City Discussion areas? Maybe this forum? 

 

 

16 hours ago, MyTwoSense said:

 

You should have written this in your fist post as it would have added context.  Have you been to the RiverWalk in person?  What reasons should the area be open to the public other than "just to"?  However, my comments and response about comparing this small portion of San Antonio to Cleveland makes no sense.  Should something be built here?  Yes.  Thinking outside the box and building something across Ontario would be great.  At one point there was a plan to build a Marriott branded hotel.  

 

Looking at the video KJP posted, those overlooks and perches are great but there would still be NO access to the river. I would like to point out that the access to the water would be prohibited by the working rail lines. Nor would there be anything of interest to view.  Sans, ships navigating the river in spring, summer and winter.  If the area was to be developed there would need to be more than just benches and a public art.  There need to be something that compliments - not competes with - the businesses on Huron, Prospect, East 4 and East 9 Street.  Perhaps a seasonal popup.  an area featuring local food trucks, along with and informational and historical displays/Installations detailing the history of the area and why it's called "collision bend". 

 

In late January and February when it's below freezing, how many people are going to stroll or run in that area?  How many people are really going to use that land year round?  It's easy to say, "we need to build x thing because x city has x thing" when there not comparable in any form or fashion. 

Those are good points. I didn’t bring up Riverwalk initially, that was another poster. And again you’re right, there’s nothing there, except parking. And the Rta is another barrier. But Tower City Ampitheater was there RIP. And the casino 2.0 was supposed to be there. So the idea to connect is there, but not the political will, at least not yet. The jogging circuit is just another good idea. Here’s hoping. And maybe I’m wrong, but shouldn’t there be an RTA station there? 

 

[edit: sorry I’m in slow motion and on my phone X, pls move my post]

Edited March 11, 20196 yr by Stormtrek

Can we all just agree that Baker, Jarvis, and OBJ would look great on the new Sherwin Williams banner??

Why is the crown of the Huntington (BP/200 PS) Building suddenly not illuminated?  We have so few buildings lit up at night- it infuriates me when one of them suddenly shuts off ?

To put this in perspective, the 2015 budget for residential streets was only $4M.

 

Cleveland to target as much as $14M at side streets in 2019, but which streets will be on the paving list?

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The city plans to devote more money to repaving side streets for the fourth year in a row, with the total this year expected to be as much as $14 million.

On Monday, members of City Council are scheduled to meet with the city’s head of public works, Michael Cox, and others from Mayor Frank Jackson’s administration to begin sorting out which streets will be on this year’s paving list.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2019/03/cleveland-to-target-as-much-as-14m-at-side-streets-in-2019-but-which-streets-will-be-targeted.html

...since this thread is active, ever walk around and notice how many different types of streetlights there are around downtown streets? I swear, you can see 4 different types (at least!) on one street, I'm sure it's low on the overall needs list, but some parity would be nice! /endrant

Whom is in charge of maintenance /removal of the string lights ,wrapped around the lamp posts, along Euclid Ave?  I noticed in the May Company thread that they still remain up.  

20 minutes ago, GISguy said:

...since this thread is active, ever walk around and notice how many different types of streetlights there are around downtown streets? I swear, you can see 4 different types (at least!) on one street, I'm sure it's low on the overall needs list, but some parity would be nice! /endrant

 

A couple years ago, I went out on my bike one night and tried to count how many different types of street lights there were downtown. I took pics of 15 different ones, but I'm sure I missed some others. In other cities they have one style for the entirety of downtown. Downtown Detroit used to be similar to Cleveland in this regard, but they recently replaced all of their downtown street light posts. 

^ The type on the horizontal arm, aiming downward, with the metal back reflector/enclosure used to be made at the Westinghouse factory on the west Shoreway.  (Made by yours truly for one college summer. ? ) 

3 hours ago, GISguy said:

...since this thread is active, ever walk around and notice how many different types of streetlights there are around downtown streets? I swear, you can see 4 different types (at least!) on one street, I'm sure it's low on the overall needs list, but some parity would be nice! /endrant

A long time pet peeve- believe me it has been covered on this forum endlessly ? 

 

Supposedly.... they are working on converting (hopefully all?) these to Smart LED Streetlights.  

Also does anyone know the timeline for the digital information boards I'm not exactly sure where that was originally posted...

 

On 3/11/2019 at 12:12 AM, Stormtrek said:

 

I've always thought it was odd that the Ohio Bell building doesn't have a lit crown at night considering how integral illumination was for the Art Deco style. Could you imagine the dramatic difference of our skyline at night with an illuminated Ohio Bell building, preferably without the giant AT&T logo ?

 

Wow! I thought that video looked great. What are the odds of a park actually happening there? Probably not great but it seems to dramatically improve the area at a negligible cost.

 

Wow that video's awesome, great vision overall.

 

Isn't the Cleveland Thermal Plant out of commission ever since they upgraded the Lakeside plant? I see a lot of potential to make a connection between Gateway and the flats (especially with all the speculation going on down there- Thunderbird, Great Lakes, (?)Football Stadium, etc.). Right now it's like they gave up on pedestrians past the old viaduct/crosswalk.

 

Additionally, and it isn't building and projects speculation, more of an observation, but overall Gateway is pretty well incorporated with the area, and with NuCLEus, it'll be moreso. I think about other cities (Buffalo in particular), how the arena and baseball seems disconnected from all but 3 or 4 restaurants. It's exciting how you can come down on an event night (or really, any night for that matter), and there's a buzz, not all cities can say that.

 

PS- The Browns moving wasn't great, but at the same time it probably was a huge benefit that we didn't combine the football/baseball stadiums when it was proposed, if that were the case who knows what Gateway would look like today...

 

Reminds me of the HIGH LINE on lower west side of Manhattan.  This idea rocks!

 

Love everything about this concept!

 

 

I like it a lot too. Although I wish Downtown could have some more family friendly amenities such as a playground or something. There's really not a lot of green space Downtown or that many parks nearby.

 

Hmm...Further evidence that we are being watched...

 

https://expo.cleveland.com/life-and-culture/g66l-2019/03/ad2d745c99592/grassroots-plan-for-running-biking-loop-over-downtown-bridges-deserves-support-steven-litt.html

 

 

Not a lot of Green Space??  ???‍♂️?  I disagree. with that.    There are a lot of Green spaces, but they are mixed use and not designated by age or specific activity/use.  I will agree, a proper playground or two wouldn't hurt. 

 

As more and more family units move into Downtown, to experience vertical living, family needs (elementary schools, pediatricians, playgrounds, retail, etc.) will need to be addressed.  Hopefully this will be discussed sooner rather than later.

 

Two thoughts:

1. Wow that’s a great idea.

2. Wow our riverfront sucks! 

 

Walkable, liveable  - we always hear these keywords used to describe what kind of city we’re trying to build - this idea makes so much sense that you wonder why it shouldn’t happen as fast as possible. We’re rightly focused  on buildings and development in this forum but when the dialogue is about how to create  a more desireable daily lifestyle - like this running/ bike loop  - I think it inevitably leads to a more attractive and dynamic city - where people want to be - and where new development organically follows. 

 

Fantastic plan.  Everyone involved should be proud and making a lot of noise to attract the attention of those who can move this forward.

 

Unfortunately, the part of Litt's article that didn't surprise me at all is:   "The Jackson administration did not respond to a request for comment."

 

This is the most closed off and uninvolved administration that I can remember.  It would be nice if Mayor Jackson could take his head out of the sand long enough to comment on something beneficial for the city.  

 

It is unfortunate that we do not have the leadership to make this a reality.

 

Fantastic idea. This reminds me of a smaller version of the Hudson River Greenway in NYC. As someone who hopes to live downtown in the upcoming years, and someone who runs almost every day, this would be great to see happen and would make downtown even more desirable. 

 

My only issue with the design is that I wish the path was wider. 

 

Litt states a price-tag of $1 million for the AoDK design, unless I'm misunderstood. Does that seem like a realistic cost estimate for this project, 'cause if so that doesn't feel too unattainable. 

 

If at all possible I would transform the Cuyahoga waterfront to the likes of the San Antonio riverwalk. A Venice-like attraction that is actually a story below street level. Its got lots of water features including artificial waterfalls, plenty of organized plant life like none other, and plenty of food and shops on the lower level of the riverwalk. If we could somehow revitalize the Cuyahoga to be more than a port stop and make it a lively place to eat, walk, and shop.

 

^ not a weed-choked chain link fence in sight. At some point in time the people and leadership in SA found a way. Why can’t Cleveland Ohio look like that? 

 

 

This is their major attraction. So it gets lots of attention and maintenance.  What about other portions of the San Antonio? 

 

Why compare Cleveland with other cities when you're not comparing the cities as a whole?  It makes no sense.

 

 

What does the rest of San Antonio look like? 

 

 

Highways

 

If I'm not mistaken, the San Antonio river walk is man made.  Thus, it can be easily manipulated.  They are able to drain the river walk and clean debris from it as well. 

 

The San Antonio River Walk is very nice, but it is essentially a ride at Epcot.  You can't compare it to a working industrial river

 

Also, neither the San Antonio Riverwalk, nor the Cuyahoga River are located in the Gateway District.  So back on topic, folks!

 

I've been to San Antonio several times. I actually went the first time just to see the Riverwalk. It's pretty amazing - nothing like it anywhere else in the US. And yes, it is a little Epcoty but so what. It works, it's beautiful and it's idiot proof as a tourist item. Meaning it's safe and readily accessible to all the major hotels. It has even been extended up river with a lock added ( a fun activity). Of course major residential/shopping has developed all along the river path so as an urban attraction it works in spades.

 

The rest of the city is pretty nice too. There's a hop on hop off bus that takes you to the local neighborhood sites and all in all I thought San Antonio was a very nice city. Oddly enough, for me at least, I was a little disappointed in the Alamo and I'm a history buff. 

 

As for re-creating something like that with the Cuyahoga it really is an apples /oranges thing. Both rivers are very different geologically. The San Antonio is more of a trench while we have a wide river valley. That being said, we should absolutely continue to develop what we have along our river. More housing, boardwalk/trails, extend the river taxi. promote more water activity and yes, I know there is a tension between recreational and working activity but we ought to be able to figure out ways in which both can share the river. We have a river. Take advantage of it. 

 

Well I see my reply is off topic now. Sorry.

 

The topic-within-a-topic-is pedestrian experience. Gateway is literally fenced off from the water; it’s a car-first part of town. It shouldn’t be. It borders the river. There should be better access to the river. The current situation is an embarrassment as Gateway is a major attraction. There’s a casino and TWO major league sports venues. The comparison makes sense. 

 

 

You should have written this in your fist post as it would have added context.  Have you been to the RiverWalk in person?  What reasons should the area be open to the public other than "just to"?  However, my comments and response about comparing this small portion of San Antonio to Cleveland makes no sense.  Should something be built here?  Yes.  Thinking outside the box and building something across Ontario would be great.  At one point there was a plan to build a Marriott branded hotel.  

 

Looking at the video KJP posted, those overlooks and perches are great but there would still be NO access to the river. I would like to point out that the access to the water would be prohibited by the working rail lines. Nor would there be anything of interest to view.  Sans, ships navigating the river in spring, summer and winter.  If the area was to be developed there would need to be more than just benches and a public art.  There need to be something that compliments - not competes with - the businesses on Huron, Prospect, East 4 and East 9 Street.  Perhaps a seasonal popup.  an area featuring local food trucks, along with and informational and historical displays/Installations detailing the history of the area and why it's called "collision bend". 

 

In late January and February when it's below freezing, how many people are going to stroll or run in that area?  How many people are really going to use that land year round?  It's easy to say, "we need to build x thing because x city has x thing" when there not comparable in any form or fashion. 

 

 

Can you move the discussion to the Transportation or City Discussion areas? Maybe this forum? 

 

 

Those are good points. I didn’t bring up Riverwalk initially, that was another poster. And again you’re right, there’s nothing there, except parking. And the Rta is another barrier. But Tower City Ampitheater was there RIP. And the casino 2.0 was supposed to be there. So the idea to connect is there, but not the political will, at least not yet. The jogging circuit is just another good idea. Here’s hoping. And maybe I’m wrong, but shouldn’t there be an RTA station there? 

 

[edit: sorry I’m in slow motion and on my phone X, pls move my post]

 

 

Alright, sorry folks, I tried to move this conversation from another thread, and apparently the "Merge" option means to merge all the selected posts together into one post, because that is something that apparently would be useful to someone?  So what I've quoted here is an entire damned conversation by multiple people about the proposed jogging loop over the two high level bridges.

We could do all sorts of canal, San Antonio like spaces with the land at Burke. 

^ combining a canal-focused neighborhood form with an Esplanade / Back Bay-style neighborhood in Boston along the Charles would be great. Something with lots of trees and good landscape architecture blended right into the neighborhood fabric.

https://cpl.org/cleveland-public-library-begins-cleaning-of-main-library-for-150th-anniversary-year/

 

Small bit of news but one of my pet peeves will finally be taken care of!  The Main Library will be cleaned for the 150th anniversary.  The Superior Ave. side has gotten pretty filthy over the years- cant wait to see the finished product.  You can see it in this photo:

 

Edited March 29, 20196 yr by mrclifton88

Interestingly today- it seems the Statler is also getting some power-washing done!  And work seems to be happening at the door to the old restaurant.

Might be worth posting this in the general Playhouse Square developments thread, since info about the renovations to the Statler are posted there.

Not sure if this belongs here but I hope this will solve a few problems downtown- one is just aesthetic; we have SO MANY mismatched kinds of lights it is ridiculous.  Secondly- in walking downtown last night there are SO MANY streetlights out.  It is embarrassing... just on Euclid alone there are a lot but also many many other streets. The area around Rockwell and E. 3rd is completely dark.

 

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/oh-cuyahoga/city-of-cleveland-announces-a-project-set-to-replace-61-000-streetlights-with-led-lights-across-the-city

 

City of Cleveland announces a project set to replace 61,000 streetlights with LED lights across the city

Edited July 1, 20195 yr by mrclifton88

^ And here is the link to follow the progress.

 

https://www.cpp.org/Initiatives/LED-Streetlight-Installation?fbclid=IwAR19SOtquCp0fGuGKQK_b31IWkw4083poXawXIkY42p2ATdMWWVkWtRlwio

Some nice improvements to the Huron side of the Halle Building.  The canopies have been fixed and painted to match Euclid (Dark green with white "ropes" and Gold fasteners on the building) and some nice plants have gone up.  Amazing what a little paint and flowers does for your curb appeal!

 

1 hour ago, mrclifton88 said:

Some nice improvements to the Huron side of the Halle Building.  The canopies have been fixed and painted to match Euclid (Dark green with white "ropes" and Gold fasteners on the building) and some nice plants have gone up.  Amazing what a little paint and flowers does for your curb appeal!

 

 

Those windowed bays make the Huron-facing side look a lot more interesting and prettier than the Euclid-facing side ?

I've seen a few of these going in around downtown.

 

One pic is mine the other I got from mrclifton88 in the General Tower City Center Developments thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is it me or is it crooked?

Taken tonight. I've never seen Terminal Tower lighting this dynamic before ?

 

 

If you follow:

https://twitter.com/TowerLightsCLE?s=17

 

They give you insights on what the color will be and for what reason. Usually they light up for awareness, but during a color change or transition it goes through that same color palette.

It's all part of the program they use to sync their lights together.

This page also regularly post historic photos and things to do around Cleveland. Quite a useful page I'll say.

Edited August 3, 20195 yr by tastybunns

They show the hawks that nest up there, shows off development news, and sometimes they even take requests!

Edited August 3, 20195 yr by tastybunns

Beautiful

In the Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood......

 

 

Edited September 15, 20195 yr by KJP

17 hours ago, KJP said:

In the Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood......

 

 

I still don’t understand who thought the planters were a good idea when they redid the sidewalks. You know, instead of actual trees. I wanna personally take a concrete saw to that stretch and cut out pockets for trees. The vast stretch of concrete just looks like s&*t. How many trees could you buy at the cost of those planters?

 

This irritates/infuriates me. And they’re doing the same thing down Lorain. Nothing but a vast stretch of concrete. And this is a city that hassles you over paving a driveway over stormwater run off concerns. 

Edited September 15, 20195 yr by marty15

I prefer trees too, but with the track record the city has with street trees lately, this would just be another stretch of dead saplings year after year after year. At least there are life in the planters.

There are some utilities under stretches of Euclid that didn't allow for tree boxes to be put down into the sidewalk, so the planters were added.

1 hour ago, X said:

There are some utilities under stretches of Euclid that didn't allow for tree boxes to be put down into the sidewalk, so the planters were added.

And that’s fine. This is Detroit/Madison/Lorain through the neighborhoods. Just solid concrete for miles. Looks like sh*t. And we all know how good concrete looks when it ages. It can’t be a cost issue. Concrete is expensive. Just lazy, not giving a sh*t city management.

 

Its one thing ive noticed in my travels internationally. We always crave that big ticket project to make everything better. When in reality, if we just took care of what we have, pay attention to detail, things would improve dramatically. But city leaders don’t give a damn here. This city is moving forward in spite of leadership. Imagine if we had people in charge that weren’t just going through the motions, cause that’s all they’re doing.

 

End Rant.

Edited September 16, 20195 yr by marty15

Want to really make your blood boil.....how about this solution on the river where car went through fence earlier in the year

1 hour ago, mack34 said:

Want to really make your blood boil.....how about this solution on the river where car went through fence earlier in the year

Geezus ??‍♂️

^^Unacceptable.