February 25, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, GCrites80s said: Wonder why a Columbus city document uses City-Data's info rather than, say... the city's own. Not sure, but if city-data’s info was used the population of downtown would be over 31,000 instead of the 11,000 number.
February 25, 20223 yr Jackie O's facebook post that construction is underway: https://www.facebook.com/169655293061983/posts/5558443764183082/
February 25, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, TH3BUDDHA said: Jackie O's facebook post that construction is underway: https://www.facebook.com/169655293061983/posts/5558443764183082/ It also looks like it is the original plan also and not a smaller revised one. This will be amazing for that area.
March 2, 20223 yr On 12/10/2021 at 2:54 PM, amped91 said: Much of the lower level of this building has been boarded up since last year’s protests. Glad to hear about plans to bring the building back to life. New Continental Centre owners plan to redevelop building into residential space “Downtown Columbus' Continental Centre will be converted from offices to residential space. It's the type of project the building's new owner excels at, said Phil Aftuck, director of investments for Washington, D.C.-based Bernstein Cos. An affiliate of Bernstein and Toledo-based Welltower bought the 26-story building for nearly $12 million about a year ago, according to the Franklin County Auditor. The Continental Centre, located at 150 E. Gay St., will be converted into a mix of studio, one- and two-bedroom units, along with some lower level or ground-floor retail, an amenity area on the top floor and some coworking space. The building was about 40% occupied when it sold, Aftuck said, and tenants are in the process of moving out. Aftuck said there is not a final budget for the project yet as it is still in the planning and design phase. The timeline for the project is also fluid, he said, in part because the firm is hoping to land state tax credits to help finance it. The building's owners applied for Ohio's new transformational mixed-use development tax credit. The $6.5 million credit they're seeking would "fill in the gaps," Aftuck said, and make sure the complicated project happens as planned. The state will announce which projects will be awarded the TMUD at the beginning of next year. Aftuck told Business First that Columbus can expect to see high-quality units in the building, with in-unit washers and dryers, stainless steel appliances, quartz countertops and downtown views.” https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2021/12/10/continental-centre.html So I guess this did not get the TMUD credits. Too bad. I hope they can move forward with it. With 26 floors they could get a ton of units in and in a very good area in downtown also. Would the city be able to help if a certain number of the units were 'workforce' or 'affordable'? Edited March 2, 20223 yr by Toddguy
March 6, 20223 yr 50 minutes ago, Pablo said: ^That's a huge crane for such a small project. 52 minutes ago, Pablo said: ^That's a huge crane for such a small project. Probably needed for those culverts they are using, I’m sure those things aren’t lightweight.
March 9, 20223 yr On 3/5/2022 at 8:51 PM, VintageLife said: Probably needed for those culverts they are using, I’m sure those things aren’t lightweight. I saw someone say on social media that the construction company used for this project usually takes forever to finish their work so don’t count on it being done till next year, however I did drive by this morning and saw a bunch of people working on it just couldn’t snap a pic.
March 17, 20223 yr On 3/2/2022 at 4:04 PM, Toddguy said: So I guess this did not get the TMUD credits. Too bad. I hope they can move forward with it. With 26 floors they could get a ton of units in and in a very good area in downtown also. Would the city be able to help if a certain number of the units were 'workforce' or 'affordable'? They submitted a request for action for the rooftop patio and pool for this months commission meeting. Seems the TMUD isn’t changing their plans going ahead. It also mentions there will be 320 apartment units in the building. Edited March 17, 20223 yr by VintageLife
March 17, 20223 yr 51 minutes ago, VintageLife said: They submitted a request for action for the rooftop patio and pool for this months commission meeting. Seems the TMUD isn’t changing their plans going ahead. It also mentions there will be 320 apartment units in the building. Pretty good number of units. Glad to see it’s likely moving forward.
March 17, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, VintageLife said: They submitted a request for action for the rooftop patio and pool for this months commission meeting. Seems the TMUD isn’t changing their plans going ahead. It also mentions there will be 320 apartment units in the building. Pretty happy to see that more and more projects which did not get TMUD are still planning on moving forward. I was worried TMUD was going to be a "make or break" for a lot of these projects. Guess the numbers still say it'll be worth moving ahead without it!
March 17, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, TIm said: Pretty happy to see that more and more projects which did not get TMUD are still planning on moving forward. I was worried TMUD was going to be a "make or break" for a lot of these projects. Guess the numbers still say it'll be worth moving ahead without it! Anyone been out to Easton recently? 🧐
March 17, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, TIm said: Pretty happy to see that more and more projects which did not get TMUD are still planning on moving forward. I was worried TMUD was going to be a "make or break" for a lot of these projects. Guess the numbers still say it'll be worth moving ahead without it! With 320 units planned, it seems like they will make that money back pretty quick.
March 21, 20223 yr Could the New Downtown Plan Lead to Changes with Downtown Streets? In recent months, former Mayor Michael Coleman, along with current Mayor Andrew Ginther and other local leaders, have been promoting the new Downtown Columbus Strategic Plan. They’ve been encouraging anyone who lives, works, or visits Downtown to take a survey, attend a meeting and/or submit ideas online as part of the effort. Coleman has emphasized the city’s track record of success when it comes to implementing the ideas that came out of the last Downtown Plan in 2010, including a suggestion to demolish the Main Street Dam and create an additional 33 acres of urban parkland along the Scioto River. That project did indeed end up happening, and another big idea from that 2010 plan — a call to build a dense mixed-use development on the Scioto Peninsula — is now in the process of happening. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/could-the-new-downtown-plan-lead-to-changes-to-downtown-streets-bw1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 23, 20223 yr 320 units is a lot! The rooftop pool area was reviewed by the Downtown Commission yesterday. https://columbusunderground.com/downtown-commission-plans-heard-for-salesian-building-continental-centre-pnc-tower-bw1/
March 23, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Pablo said: 320 units is a lot! The rooftop pool area was reviewed by the Downtown Commission yesterday. https://columbusunderground.com/downtown-commission-plans-heard-for-salesian-building-continental-centre-pnc-tower-bw1/ I would imagine there will be one heck of a breeze on that pool deck.
March 23, 20223 yr 26 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: I would imagine there will be one heck of a breeze on that pool deck. Yeah not sure I would swim in that unless it was heated.
March 23, 20223 yr If nothing else, the pool will add to the 'feel' of it all. Just the views and maybe the 'ambience' of the place should be great. 320 units is wonderful-more than the hideous Columbus Commons brick Khrushchyovka. Will there be any firepits or anything like that in the rooftop area?
March 23, 20223 yr Maybe someone said it before....but based on Welltower being the buyer, I'm assuming this will be some sort of senior housing. Welltower has deep pockets to get this done.
March 27, 20223 yr Moved Rhodes Tower and future building history/mythology here --> "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 29, 20223 yr Columbus Dispatch building Downtown will be listed for sale “The Columbus Dispatch building at 62 E. Broad St. was listed for sale this week. The building, owned by Gannett, houses the editorial staffs of The Dispatch, ThisWeek Newspapers and Dispatch Magazines. They will remain in the Downtown building for the time being, and eventually move into a new home that better suits the needs of a changing workforce. The building was listed by BellCornerstone in conjunction with local partner NAI Ohio Equities. Like many companies, Dispatch employees were away from the office for much of the last two years because of COVID-19, and workforce needs have changed. The plan is to share the same space with other Dispatch Media Group employees, including marketing and events staff, so there can be greater collaboration. They currently work at 605 S. Front Street in the Brewery District.” https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/real-estate/2022/03/28/dispatch-building-broad-street/7188190001/
April 28, 20223 yr Did anyone go to the CDDC Workshop #2 at the main library on Tuesday? I’m curious as to what updates they had.
April 28, 20223 yr 17 hours ago, CBUS_Res said: Did anyone go to the CDDC Workshop #2 at the main library on Tuesday? I’m curious as to what updates they had. I’ve been looking too. I was wanting to watch the livestream, but kept having video issues :\
April 28, 20223 yr 17 hours ago, CBUS_Res said: Did anyone go to the CDDC Workshop #2 at the main library on Tuesday? I’m curious as to what updates they had. A recording of the presentation is on YouTube: There's also a new survey & the presentation is available for download here: https://downtowncolumbus.com/plan/
April 29, 20223 yr Downtown strategic plan: Many want more transit, fewer surface parking lots, among other improvements By Bonnie Meibers – Staff reporter , Columbus Business First Apr 29, 2022 Columbus residents have been dreaming out loud about what they want the downtown of the future to look like. Those dreams include more alternative transportation, activated storefronts and a place that's affordable for everyone. https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/04/29/downtown-strategic-plan-meeting.html Edited April 29, 20223 yr by CMHOhio
May 3, 20223 yr New Ideas Floated During Second Downtown Plan Meeting The process of creating a new Downtown Columbus Strategic Plan continued last week with another public meeting. Planners presented information on the feedback gathered so far – including thoughts on the biggest challenges facing Downtown – and some initial ideas about ways to meet those challenges. Chris Hermann, Principal at Columbus-based planning firm MKSK, gave a presentation to the in-person crowd at the Main Library and then directed participants to stations set up around the room designed to gather more input. The meeting was also streamed on YouTube, and is available to watch at downtowncolumbus.com. Over 1,400 people have engaged with the planning process so far, either by participating in a meeting, responding to a survey or submitting ideas online. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/new-ideas-floated-during-second-downtown-plan-meeting-bw1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 3, 20223 yr The east side of Downtown could definitely use more parks. Columbus as a whole is woefully lacking in public parks. My understanding is that in Chicago everyone is within a 10 minute walk of a park.
May 3, 20223 yr 6 hours ago, Pablo said: The east side of Downtown could definitely use more parks. Columbus as a whole is woefully lacking in public parks. My understanding is that in Chicago everyone is within a 10 minute walk of a park. Chicago’s city motto is Urbs in Horto, Latin for City in a Garden. There’s parks everywhere.
May 3, 20223 yr 7 hours ago, Pablo said: The east side of Downtown could definitely use more parks. Columbus as a whole is woefully lacking in public parks. My understanding is that in Chicago everyone is within a 10 minute walk of a park. Especially near those long stretches of parking lots and row rise buildings near the college campuses on Spring and near the Warehouse District on 4th. Add in a few new parks and increase tree cover. Definitely need more greenery in those areas.
May 4, 20223 yr They really need to get that park that was planned across Grant(?) from CCC done-that area needs a park-and connect it. There is plenty of space for parking with residential on top along Long I believe south of the college. 3-4 floors of residential on top of 2-3 floors of parking and a bit of retail would give enough parking for students and residents both. Also a great place for some significant affordable housing. That whole area is just being wasted. Our community leaders, business community, developers, etc. need to be more involved, invested and dynamic. We need some more Coleman types to step up. That whole corner of downtown could be a vibrant dense urban neighborhood centering around those colleges-someone make it happen! Edited May 4, 20223 yr by Toddguy
May 5, 20223 yr A little bit of good news for Downtown: Downtown's comeback: Historic building on Capitol Square to get new tenant “Fechtor, a Columbus-based advertising company, is moving to the Hayden building. The firm’s new owners, Michelle Snook and Dave Rogers, will move Fechtor from its current office at 14 E. Gay Street to the Hayden building at 16 E. Broad Street. Tomko said Fechtor's move brings the building occupancy to more than 50%. There are other office suites under construction now that when filled, will bring the building to about 75% occupancy.“ https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/05/05/capitol-square-building-to-get-new-tenant.html
May 5, 20223 yr Every time I see a new post in this thread there is always that little hopeful thought that maybe a 60 story building has been announced(for that Southeast section). This little hope is completely irrational but yet it is always there lol. Edited May 5, 20223 yr by Toddguy
May 5, 20223 yr One of the rumors from a couple of years ago thought the Wolfe's wanted to make one last splash for Columbus and build a signature building on that corner. Ohio Health was looking for a new home and certainly had the workforce to fill a hi-rise, but they chose a suburban location so like a lot of rumors floating around about our downtown, it vanished into the night.
May 6, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, John7165 said: they chose a suburban location Maybe semantics here, but they built their HQ on North Broadway and 315. Not downtown but not a farm field in New Albany either.
May 6, 20223 yr They also chose that location for other strategic reasons including proximity to the largest Ohio Health facility and many other outpatient facilities, ability to build lower cost short buildings across a larger campus than a mid-high rise, ability to expand, and create a larger health campus in the future. I'm not particularly bothered by their decision. They made it pretty clear when they announced it why they didn't opt for downtown.
May 9, 20223 yr Unfortunately, still no news of a new tower. But the renderings of the Fifth Third Tower do look pretty nice! Here's when Fifth Third Center renovations are scheduled to wrap up (photos) “Renovations at the historic Fifth Third Center on Capitol Square are coming along, with much of the work expected to wrap up by the end of this year. Birmingham, Michigan-based ValStone Partners paid $28 million for the skyscraper that casts a long shadow across the Statehouse lawn. It got a $24 million construction loan to fund renovations, which are needed to boost the 15% occupancy rate the building had before renovations started. Interior lobby renovations will be complete in July. The newly designed space will provide retail tenants access to the lobby and the 236-space parking garage. Work on the exterior storefronts will wrap up in October and in December, streetscape improvements and the elevator modernization will be finished. The new fitness center and the facade repair to the original part of the historic limestone building, formerly known as the Beggs building, will end in September.” https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/05/09/fifth-third-center.html
June 1, 20223 yr Continental Centre tower in Downtown Columbus could change from offices to residences “The owners of Downtown's empty Continental Centre plan to convert nearly all the building into apartments, becoming Downtown's second office tower to largely switch from offices to residences. If the plan moves forward, the 26-story building at 150 E. Gay St. would include about 330 apartments, making it one of Downtown's largest apartment buildings. Aftuck said Bernstein is finalizing details on the conversion, but that he expects the apartments to be more modestly priced than other new Downtown residences. Afltuck said if Bernstein receives the state historic tax this summer, the company expects to start interior demolition in the building this year.“ https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2022/06/01/continental-centre-columbus-converted-into-apartments/7455158001/?utm_source=dispatch-DailyBriefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=list_article_thumb&utm_content=NCOD-OHIO-COLUMBUS-NLETTER65
June 1, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, amped91 said: Continental Centre tower in Downtown Columbus could change from offices to residences “The owners of Downtown's empty Continental Centre plan to convert nearly all the building into apartments, becoming Downtown's second office tower to largely switch from offices to residences. If the plan moves forward, the 26-story building at 150 E. Gay St. would include about 330 apartments, making it one of Downtown's largest apartment buildings. Aftuck said Bernstein is finalizing details on the conversion, but that he expects the apartments to be more modestly priced than other new Downtown residences. Afltuck said if Bernstein receives the state historic tax this summer, the company expects to start interior demolition in the building this year.“ https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2022/06/01/continental-centre-columbus-converted-into-apartments/7455158001/?utm_source=dispatch-DailyBriefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=list_article_thumb&utm_content=NCOD-OHIO-COLUMBUS-NLETTER65 Love this, but I still wish some of those units would be for sale.
June 3, 20223 yr On 6/1/2022 at 2:21 PM, VintageLife said: Love this, but I still wish some of those units would be for sale. I think they should be too. At least the nearby Citizens apartments were recently converted to for-sale condos. And I found out on the Urban Living tour that the LC Annex apartments will soon be for-sale units too.
June 22, 20222 yr Could see it start as soon as next month! Continental Centre, other Central Ohio projects land historic tax credits “The Continental Centre, located at 150 E. Gay St., is one of the projects awarded. The $89 million project secured a $5 million tax credit. The now-empty office building, once the southwestern headquarters of Ohio Bell, will be converted into 336 apartments – a mix of studio, one- and two-bedroom units. There will also be some lower-level or ground-floor retail, an amenity area on the top floor and some coworking space. A rooftop pool is also planned. The rehabilitation project will retain historic features such as original windows and quartzite wall cladding on the interior, according to the state. The owners also plan to keep historic structural elements, including the lobby and mezzanine, and convert the former executive office space on floor 24 into a tenant lounge. Pending permits, construction could start on the building as soon as next month, Aftuck said.” https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/06/22/contiental-centre-to-get-historic-tax-credit.html
June 22, 20222 yr ^Weird - the Business First article says the building was built in 1951. They're off by 22 years - I believe it was built in 1973.
June 22, 20222 yr More on that... Downtown Office-to-Residential Conversion Awarded Historic Tax Credits A plan to convert a 26-story office tower Downtown into apartments was awarded Ohio Historic Preservation Tax Credits today. The development, which will transform the former Continental Centre at 150 E. Gay St., was the only Columbus development awarded credits this round (they are handed out twice a year). Last December, the Kroger Bakery redevelopment was the sole Columbus project to receive credits. Plans for the conversion, which were approved by the Downtown Commission earlier this year, call for a mix of studio, one-bedroom and two-bedroom apartments, along with retail on the first floor and a rooftop pool. At 336 units, the project will be one of the larger residential projects to come online Downtown in recent years. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/downtown-office-to-residential-conversion-awarded-historic-tax-credits-bw1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 21, 20222 yr God, how I would love for Broad to get some sort of improvement/diet like this: Downtown Plan: New Visuals Show Redesigned Streets, High-Density Neighborhoods “A new goal was unveiled at this week’s meeting – 40,000 people living in Downtown Columbus by the year 2040. In order to achieve that, many more of Downtown’s 214 acres of surface parking lots will need to be developed, and the area’s transit and active transportation options will need to improve in order for that to be possible. Hermann pointed to Gay Street as an example of a street that has been successfully densified, and to the construction of a public parking garage as a key part of that evolution, since it made it possible for developers to start building on what was at the time a huge collection of surface lots. A visual presented at the meeting showed how the East Spring Street corridor and the surrounding area could be enhanced with new development and parks. When the full draft plan is completed, it will include images showing how other Downtown districts could undergo a similar transformation, Hermann said. The goal is to complete the full draft plan by September, he added, and then to present it to City Council for approval some time this fall.” https://columbusunderground.com/downtown-plan-new-visuals-show-redesigned-streets-high-density-neighborhoods-bw1/
July 21, 20222 yr 38 minutes ago, amped91 said: God, how I would love for Broad to get some sort of improvement/diet like this: Downtown Plan: New Visuals Show Redesigned Streets, High-Density Neighborhoods “A new goal was unveiled at this week’s meeting – 40,000 people living in Downtown Columbus by the year 2040. In order to achieve that, many more of Downtown’s 214 acres of surface parking lots will need to be developed, and the area’s transit and active transportation options will need to improve in order for that to be possible. Hermann pointed to Gay Street as an example of a street that has been successfully densified, and to the construction of a public parking garage as a key part of that evolution, since it made it possible for developers to start building on what was at the time a huge collection of surface lots. A visual presented at the meeting showed how the East Spring Street corridor and the surrounding area could be enhanced with new development and parks. When the full draft plan is completed, it will include images showing how other Downtown districts could undergo a similar transformation, Hermann said. The goal is to complete the full draft plan by September, he added, and then to present it to City Council for approval some time this fall.” https://columbusunderground.com/downtown-plan-new-visuals-show-redesigned-streets-high-density-neighborhoods-bw1/ This is absolutely a beautiful and amazing idea. I’m sure the city will do the exact opposite of this proposal, sadly. Edited July 21, 20222 yr by VintageLife
July 21, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, amped91 said: God, how I would love for Broad to get some sort of improvement/diet like this: Downtown Plan: New Visuals Show Redesigned Streets, High-Density Neighborhoods “A new goal was unveiled at this week’s meeting – 40,000 people living in Downtown Columbus by the year 2040. In order to achieve that, many more of Downtown’s 214 acres of surface parking lots will need to be developed, and the area’s transit and active transportation options will need to improve in order for that to be possible. Hermann pointed to Gay Street as an example of a street that has been successfully densified, and to the construction of a public parking garage as a key part of that evolution, since it made it possible for developers to start building on what was at the time a huge collection of surface lots. A visual presented at the meeting showed how the East Spring Street corridor and the surrounding area could be enhanced with new development and parks. When the full draft plan is completed, it will include images showing how other Downtown districts could undergo a similar transformation, Hermann said. The goal is to complete the full draft plan by September, he added, and then to present it to City Council for approval some time this fall.” https://columbusunderground.com/downtown-plan-new-visuals-show-redesigned-streets-high-density-neighborhoods-bw1/ This is fantastic. 40,000 downtown residents by 2040 is a super ambitious goal. Fingers crossed City Council is supportive…
July 21, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, amped91 said: God, how I would love for Broad to get some sort of improvement/diet like this: Downtown Plan: New Visuals Show Redesigned Streets, High-Density Neighborhoods “A new goal was unveiled at this week’s meeting – 40,000 people living in Downtown Columbus by the year 2040. In order to achieve that, many more of Downtown’s 214 acres of surface parking lots will need to be developed, and the area’s transit and active transportation options will need to improve in order for that to be possible. Hermann pointed to Gay Street as an example of a street that has been successfully densified, and to the construction of a public parking garage as a key part of that evolution, since it made it possible for developers to start building on what was at the time a huge collection of surface lots. A visual presented at the meeting showed how the East Spring Street corridor and the surrounding area could be enhanced with new development and parks. When the full draft plan is completed, it will include images showing how other Downtown districts could undergo a similar transformation, Hermann said. The goal is to complete the full draft plan by September, he added, and then to present it to City Council for approval some time this fall.” https://columbusunderground.com/downtown-plan-new-visuals-show-redesigned-streets-high-density-neighborhoods-bw1/ To be perfectly honest, I think it's going to be very difficult to hit 40,000 residents within another 18 years. There are 2 main problems I see stopping it: 1. Household size is smaller now than what it was the last time Downtown had 40K-50K residents. 2. Building height/density in modern projects has generally not been big enough to offset those smaller households. If we were building 10-20 story residential projects with 300-500 units each, it would be more doable, but we're still getting a lot of low-rise development with 100-150 units for single people and couples. Consider all of the Downtown develpment that has occurred since the early 2000s when Coleman was pushing for housing there. Now consider that only roughly 7,000 people have been added over the last 20 years with all of those new buildings and renovations and it's still barely 25% of the way there. Something's got to change to reach those lofty numbers. As for a Broad Street makeover like that pictured... we've heard that song and dance for decades. I'm going to be from Missouri until I see the asphalt being pulled up. Edited July 21, 20222 yr by jonoh81
July 21, 20222 yr 38 minutes ago, jonoh81 said: To be perfectly honest, I think it's going to be very difficult to hit 40,000 residents within another 18 years. There are 2 main problems I see stopping it: 1. Household size is smaller now than what it was the last time Downtown had 40K-50K residents. 2. Building height/density in modern projects has generally not been big enough to offset those smaller households. If we were building 10-20 story residential projects with 300-500 units each, it would be more doable, but we're still getting a lot of low-rise development with 100-150 units for single people and couples. Consider all of the Downtown develpment that has occurred since the early 2000s when Coleman was pushing for housing there. Now consider that only roughly 7,000 people have been added over the last 20 years with all of those new buildings and renovations and it's still barely 25% of the way there. Something's got to change to reach those lofty numbers. As for a Broad Street makeover like that pictured... we've heard that song and dance for decades. I'm going to be from Missouri until I see the asphalt being pulled up. That’s what part of this plan covers. It talks about needing to get the parking lots filled in and shows higher density buildings. We don’t have tall builds yet, because the land isn't scarce enough yet. I think once things start rolling, those taller projects will come in.
July 22, 20222 yr https://downtowncolumbus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/220719-Community-Workshop-3-Slide-Deck-LR-v4-1.pdf Here’s a link to the full presentation, if anyone wants to take a look through it. Regarding the population goal, I do think 40,000 will be difficult to hit, but I don’t think it’s completely impossible, either. I would have to double check to say for sure, but I believe Downtown’s population has been growing by about 1000/yr the past few years. It would need to increase that by 500-600 in order to hit the goal. Tough, but there’s a lot going on. Housing wise, just between the three office conversions that are underway or planned (PNC, Continental, OJFS), that’s several hundred new units. I would expect to see even more conversions over the next couple of decades. Conversions combined with the couple hundred acres of surface lots we have to build on, we could easily make room (1800 units are possible just for the Peninsula alone). Also by 2040, Intel’s buildout will be complete (assuming), bringing tens of thousands of jobs to the region. Some percentage of those people will want to live Downtown. NCH has major expansions in the works, and Downtown should be able to capture some of that employee base, with the proximity. Ultimately, though, it will all come down to how committed TPTB are to making Downtown a desirable place to be over the course of the next two decades, and making sure that everyone is able to afford to live there.
July 22, 20222 yr I'd still like to request all the downtown plan discussion gets moved to its own thread. I think there's plenty of discussion around the downtown plan that it doesn't need to keep clogging up the random development thread IMO. I know anyone can create a thread, but I can't transfer this and subsequent discussions to it (to my knowledge).
July 22, 20222 yr No one remembers this now but Coleman's original goal in 2002 wasn't 10,000 residents but 10,000 residential units downtown by the city's bicentennial in 2012 It's 2022, and we still haven't hit that number (to my knowledge) Edited July 22, 20222 yr by NW24HX
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