February 9, 20232 yr I never even heard of that specific streetcar plan though OSU-DT has always been in the conversation in some way.
February 9, 20232 yr 26 minutes ago, GCrites80s said: I never even heard of that specific streetcar plan though OSU-DT has always been in the conversation in some way. CU had a bit on it in a never built article. It was originally an early 2000s idea that was pulled and later was included conceptually in the 2010 plan. I'd have to double check but I also think there was a similar plan in the 90s to go along with the Polaris-Downtown light rail levy. On the topic of Rail, A rail connector between downtown and the airport goes all the way back to 1973. Though they anticipated a subway line for it. Some Summaries from prior plans For all intents and purposes, Columbus has fallen behind in it's Downtown Development. And by not doing these basics in the 2023 plan over the last 30 years, we haven't seen the downtown growth potential we could have and then we will sit here and pat our backs for finally coming around to these concepts or implementing them (IF that even happens) and say, 'wow guys, this 1973, I mean 1988, I mean 2002, I mean 2010, OH, This 2023 plan REALLY WORKED!' Yes. Some of these things like major transit, arenas, massive parks, etc can take time but bike lanes, parking lot regulations, housing initiatives shouldn't take decades. Edited February 9, 20232 yr by DTCL11
February 9, 20232 yr We could've had subway nearing it's 50 year birthday? Imagine how different the city would look today.
February 9, 20232 yr Yeah sad that some of the biggest QOL pieces of these plans never happened.... subway, light rail, and a Broad Street road diet/medians. What a different city this could have been by now if these has taken root when they should have.
February 9, 20232 yr Anywho, back to the present. Anyone know what this riverfront feature labeled “Gay St Terminus” is supposed to be? Amphitheatre? Boat launch/canoe rental facility?
February 10, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, amped91 said: Anywho, back to the present. Anyone know what this riverfront feature labeled “Gay St Terminus” is supposed to be? Amphitheatre? Boat launch/canoe rental facility? It's on page 146-147 in this link. You can zoom in on it for a better view. It's labeled "Scioto Hub". It looks like maybe a restaurant or some type of event center? https://www.rapid5.org/envision
February 10, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, amped91 said: Anywho, back to the present. Anyone know what this riverfront feature labeled “Gay St Terminus” is supposed to be? Amphitheatre? Boat launch/canoe rental facility? Giant Lobster 🦞
February 10, 20232 yr If only we could get that lucky. Maybe a riverside Red Lobster in the shape of a giant lobster. That needs to be this plan’s mega project.
February 10, 20232 yr Hexion wraps up multimillion-dollar office renovation downtown “As employers seek to bring workers back to downtown Columbus, many are reinvesting in their physical spaces. One such company is Hexion Inc., which leases about 126,000 square feet across six floors at 150 E. Broad St. The company recently reconfigured its downtown Columbus office, adding more collaborative spaces and tech-enabled rooms for hybrid meetings, said spokesman John Kompa. Hexion has been in the building since the 1970s, he said. The office redesign started in 2020 and wrapped up in December, adding more standing desks, "phone booths" for employees to hop on a Zoom or phone call out of earshot and a "Catalyst Hub," with a coffee and espresso machine, snacks and a variety of soft seating for employees to have lunch, take meetings or do heads down work in a different environment. The hub has modular furniture so that it can be rearranged as employees please.” https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/09/hexion-columbus-office-pandemic-revnoation.html
February 17, 20232 yr From CBF’s article on transit in Downtown Columbus, which came out of this year’s Power Breakfast: ”COTA is planning to redevelop the former Greyhound bus station on Town Street, which will become an interchange between buses, bikes, scooters and other modes, said Kimberly Sharp, the agency’s senior director of development. Depending on final LinkUs routes, that hub might become a major BRT station. Whatever the base, the city wants it topped with mixed-use development. “It’s a huge site – you could do a lot,” Conte said.” https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/16/transit-downtown-columbus-cota-future-plan.html I feel like most of that we could’ve guessed, but it’s still good to hear any mention of the redev.
February 17, 20232 yr Working toward meeting those improved transit goals: ”Consultant WSP USA Inc. has started a multimodal study for the Columbus Department of Public Service to determine the feasibility of a multimodal transportation wish list for downtown and how to design everything to work in harmony. “We’re looking at this from an entire downtown network perspective,” said Justin Goodwin, mobility and parking administrator for the Department of Public Service. Along with adding BRT, the study will look at proposals including a protected two-way bike path along 4th Street, two-way dedicated transit lanes on 3rd, the pedestrian and bike trail through downtown, and converting one-way streets such Main and Rich to two-way traffic. “We’re all aligned on those goals,” Goodwin said. “Now it’s really digging into the details.” WSP, which did similar design work for a planned BRT and downtown trail in Indianapolis, included some initial ideas for how transit and bike lanes could work. The study will take into account impacts to businesses, as well has how to phase the improvements, Goodwin said. The city hopes to have answers in hand this summer. “We have really wide streets,” Murdock said. “We have the room to add transit and room to add bike lanes. You can really make downtown a place where you want to be outside.”‘ https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/16/transit-downtown-columbus-cota-future-plan.html
February 17, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, amped91 said: From CBF’s article on transit in Downtown Columbus, which came out of this year’s Power Breakfast: ”COTA is planning to redevelop the former Greyhound bus station on Town Street, which will become an interchange between buses, bikes, scooters and other modes, said Kimberly Sharp, the agency’s senior director of development. Depending on final LinkUs routes, that hub might become a major BRT station. Whatever the base, the city wants it topped with mixed-use development. “It’s a huge site – you could do a lot,” Conte said.” https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/16/transit-downtown-columbus-cota-future-plan.html I feel like most of that we could’ve guessed, but it’s still good to hear any mention of the redev. Hopefully they go 15+
February 17, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, VintageLife said: Hopefully they go 15+ Me too. Would also love to see a version of that 15 story on the Holiday Inn parking lot get built.
February 17, 20232 yr I wonder why the city hasn't revived the Front and Marconi plans. They were completed and slated for construction in 2015 and I remember we got noticed about the work starting when I was in the AEP building but then it just never happened. According to the designer, it even won an award. https://www.burgessniple.com/our-work/front-marconi-two-way-street-conversion/
February 17, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, DTCL11 said: I wonder why the city hasn't revived the Front and Marconi plans. They were completed and slated for construction in 2015 and I remember we got noticed about the work starting when I was in the AEP building but then it just never happened. According to the designer, it even won an award. https://www.burgessniple.com/our-work/front-marconi-two-way-street-conversion/ They actually have revived those plans...the city received grant funding and the project is actually currently out for bid for construction this year. The work is less extensive than originally planned (they aren't going to be installing brick crosswalks) but the signals will be replaced and the streets will be converted to two-way.
February 18, 20232 yr 22 hours ago, .justin said: They actually have revived those plans...the city received grant funding and the project is actually currently out for bid for construction this year. The work is less extensive than originally planned (they aren't going to be installing brick crosswalks) but the signals will be replaced and the streets will be converted to two-way. Good. The city is always needing to do repairs on them when the bricks start coming out. They just last year got rid of the brick crosswalks by Children’s. And a look at updated population and dwelling unit totals and projections, from CBF: “Downtown currently is home to about 11,650 residents. Based on residential projects in the pipeline, the population could climb to 15,000 by 2024. Marc Conte, executive director of the Capital Crossroads and Discovery special improvement districts, said although the population grew last year, 2022 was a bit disappointing, mostly because of a slowdown in housing unit delivery. The downtown population increased 4% from 2021 to 2022, down from 8% growth from 2020 to 2021. However, growth is projected to pick up with a number of projects expected to come online this year. The SID has projected downtown’s population to increase nearly 11% from 2022 to 2023, to about 12,900. If you drive through downtown, you can see a dozen or so residential projects going up. They are expected to add some 3,700 units by 2025.” https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/17/future-of-downtown-housing.html
February 19, 20232 yr On 10/21/2022 at 4:57 PM, ColDayMan said: Residential Conversion Planned for Historic Downtown Building A New York-based company has submitted plans to renovate a vacant downtown office building that is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Known as the Schlee-Kemler Building, the five-story structure was built in 1895 and is located at 326 S. High St., just south of the Westin Great Southern Hotel. The city’s Historic Resource Commission will review the plans at its next meeting, which is scheduled to take place on Tuesday, October 25. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/residential-conversion-planned-for-historic-downtown-building-bw1/ Hopefully this humble alley dumpster is a harbinger of positive things to come for the Sleestak building. Interestingly enough, though, according to a permit recently filed with the city, a design firm—BBCO—will be occupying the top two floors. They currently have an office on Riverside Drive. It doesn’t explicitly say, but the wording in the app makes it sound like the other floors will remain office as well. So I guess no office to apartment conversion here after all.
February 19, 20232 yr 34 minutes ago, amped91 said: Hopefully this humble alley dumpster is a harbinger of positive things to come for the Sleestak building. Interestingly enough, though, according to a permit recently filed with the city, a design firm—BBCO—will be occupying the top two floors. They currently have an office on Riverside Drive. It doesn’t explicitly say, but the wording in the app makes it sound like the other floors will remain office as well. So I guess no office to apartment conversion here after all. That’s annoying.
February 19, 20232 yr 39 minutes ago, VintageLife said: That’s annoying. Honestly I’m kinda glad. If landlords are able to find office tenants, I say go for that first. Plus, I think it’s a good sign that downtown is able to pull in a tenant from the edges of suburbia. I say fill up the office buildings with office tenants as able, and fill up the empty parking lots with housing and retail, since we need more jobs and more residents downtown. It does make me wonder though. Was the owner denied the conversion proposal, did they find out the building wouldn’t be suitable for residential conversion, or did they just happen to luck out and find a tenant last minute?
February 22, 20232 yr On 2/16/2023 at 9:47 PM, amped91 said: Me too. Would also love to see a version of that 15 story on the Holiday Inn parking lot get built. Why stop at 15? Go for something like the Merchant Tower-think big. If it gets downsized then it might still be 20 or 25 floors.
February 22, 20232 yr On 2/19/2023 at 1:18 PM, amped91 said: Honestly I’m kinda glad. If landlords are able to find office tenants, I say go for that first. Plus, I think it’s a good sign that downtown is able to pull in a tenant from the edges of suburbia. I say fill up the office buildings with office tenants as able, and fill up the empty parking lots with housing and retail, since we need more jobs and more residents downtown. It does make me wonder though. Was the owner denied the conversion proposal, did they find out the building wouldn’t be suitable for residential conversion, or did they just happen to luck out and find a tenant last minute? Some of these older office buildings should be taken off the market, especially if they are smaller and older, or if they have a thing side and are rectangular-those would be great for residential conversion. I think the Continental Center conversion is a good example. I think we should still try to get those workers downtown though, and making downtown a real mixed use center would help that. And maybe they might just want a new state of the art tower? I don't want to kill off the chances of a new office tower and rely solely on residential. With Intel we just need to adjust our thinking and expectations and get the developers to do the same thing-time to take the city to the next level! Who knows, in ten years we might have the Columbus Cavaliers? (just kidding NEO people!).
February 22, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Toddguy said: Why stop at 15? Go for something like the Merchant Tower-think big. If it gets downsized then it might still be 20 or 25 floors. Fifteen is just what the original proposal was. But if even that can’t get built…lol ETA: I would love more 30+ story towers downtown. But realistically, I would be happy with more 6-20 stories filling up all the parking lots too.
February 22, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, amped91 said: Fifteen is just what the original proposal was. But if even that can’t get built…lol yeah I know...*sigh*. We need to just keep talking about INTEL! and SILICON HEARTLAND and BOOMTOWN, etc. and also about HOUSING SHORTAGE GOING TO GET WORSE! and all. Developers...do not miss out on this boom opportunity-make the most of it! you know, all that kind of s$%t. We need to appeal to their greed. Edited February 22, 20232 yr by Toddguy
February 22, 20232 yr Proposal for 340 East Fulton is back and is a story higher, still isn't great in my opinion, but affordable housing downtown is great.
February 23, 20232 yr 10 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Proposal for 340 East Fulton is back and is a story higher, still isn't great in my opinion, but affordable housing downtown is great. Kinda had a "The View on Grant" look to it. I'll definitely take the additional story. Kinda wish it was going on a empty lot, though the building it's replacing isn't a great loss by any stretch of the imagination.
February 23, 20232 yr Why’s it in the Near East thread? Lol It’s definitely an improvement from before. I had seen the originally approved plans were withdrawn. Honestly, I was hoping the developer was backing out and someone else would take over and completely start from scratch. But 124 units replacing a low density building surrounded by surface parking is still an improvement, I suppose. Did they nix the retail space, though?
February 23, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, amped91 said: Why’s it in the Near East thread? Lol It’s definitely an improvement from before. I had seen the originally approved plans were withdrawn. Honestly, I was hoping the developer was backing out and someone else would take over and completely start from scratch. But 124 units replacing a low density building surrounded by surface parking is still an improvement, I suppose. Did they nix the retail space, though? I had no idea where it went haha, and yes it seems the retail is gone. Edited February 23, 20232 yr by VintageLife
February 23, 20232 yr 7 minutes ago, amped91 said: Why’s it in the Near East thread? Lol It’s definitely an improvement from before. I had seen the originally approved plans were withdrawn. Honestly, I was hoping the developer was backing out and someone else would take over and completely start from scratch. But 124 units replacing a low density building surrounded by surface parking is still an improvement, I suppose. Did they nix the retail space, though? Yeah I had no idea where it went, didn’t know how far the red brick district went. It seems the retail is gone, and is just amenity space for the apartments. Hopefully the commission says something about that.
February 23, 20232 yr Okay, after looking more closely at the plans, I take back what I said about it being an improvement. And I guess it’s not 124 units, but beds. Sixty eight units, which is only a few more than the original version. About the only good thing is that it includes some 3BR units. I think making it easier for families to live downtown is a good thing. Otherwise, I hope the commission comes out against this. This new version replaces the garage parking with surface parking, gets rid of the retail space, and gets rid of the amenity deck. Also, regarding the 12 story AspireColumbus proposal, this line is laughably stupid: ”The current building was constructed in 1969 as part of the Market Mohawk District. The applicant is in discussions with the State Historic Preservation office, which has indicated that the demolition of the current structure is an adverse effect.”
February 23, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, amped91 said: Okay, after looking more closely at the plans, I take back what I said about it being an improvement. And I guess it’s not 124 units, but beds. Sixty eight units, which is only a few more than the original version. About the only good thing is that it includes some 3BR units. I think making it easier for families to live downtown is a good thing. Otherwise, I hope the commission comes out against this. This new version replaces the garage parking with surface parking, gets rid of the retail space, and gets rid of the amenity deck. Also, regarding the 12 story AspireColumbus proposal, this line is laughably stupid: ”The current building was constructed in 1969 as part of the Market Mohawk District. The applicant is in discussions with the State Historic Preservation office, which has indicated that the demolition of the current structure is an adverse effect.” Yikes, how is that building anything but trash. It doesn’t have any architectural importance and isn’t a great look building. Yeah let’s screw over an affordable housing build by making them save a trash building. this building would be a loss?? Edited February 23, 20232 yr by VintageLife
February 23, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, amped91 said: Okay, after looking more closely at the plans, I take back what I said about it being an improvement. And I guess it’s not 124 units, but beds. Sixty eight units, which is only a few more than the original version. About the only good thing is that it includes some 3BR units. I think making it easier for families to live downtown is a good thing. Otherwise, I hope the commission comes out against this. This new version replaces the garage parking with surface parking, gets rid of the retail space, and gets rid of the amenity deck. Also, regarding the 12 story AspireColumbus proposal, this line is laughably stupid: ”The current building was constructed in 1969 as part of the Market Mohawk District. The applicant is in discussions with the State Historic Preservation office, which has indicated that the demolition of the current structure is an adverse effect.” Are they insane? This structure is an abomination! Historic my a$$! What drugs are they on? Nearly everything they built after the Market Mohawk teardowns is GAWD-awful and hideous. Does the fool who is responsible for this line have a name? They are actively working against downtown development at this point. Outrageous.
February 23, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Yikes, how is that building anything but trash. It doesn’t have any architectural importance and isn’t a great look building. Yeah let’s screw over an affordable housing build by making them save a trash building. It is an eyesore and yes the epitome of late 60's trash. This is infuriating-especially when affordable housing is at stake. Where ARE their priorities?
February 23, 20232 yr Just now, Toddguy said: It is an eyesore and yes the epitome of late 60's trash. This is infuriating-especially when affordable housing is at stake. Where ARE their priorities? Yeah I plan on sending an email about how this building doesn’t hold any architectural significance and how the replacement is affordable housing, which is needed more. I feel the city should be involved also
February 23, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, VintageLife said: Yeah I plan on sending an email about how this building doesn’t hold any architectural significance and how the replacement is affordable housing, which is needed more. I feel the city should be involved also It looks like cheap trash that could be found on 161 and even there it would look liked dated trash architecture. It has no historic or architectural merit whatsoever. Even for buildings of that time it is an ugly eyesore. It should never have been built to begin with. * I gotta log off for the night. This is just too much lol. Edited February 23, 20232 yr by Toddguy
February 23, 20232 yr New Proposal from NRI Tops Busy Downtown Commission Agenda From this article: Included in the submitted materials is a document that explains another possibility – that the CME Federal Credit Union building next door could eventually be redeveloped as well, bringing the overall unit total to 200 and the amount of “community-commercial” space to 40,000 square feet. would be great to see that building get redeveloped. Hopefully it would be a tear down and not a renovation, but any type of affordable housing is good in the end.
February 23, 20232 yr 15 minutes ago, VintageLife said: New Proposal from NRI Tops Busy Downtown Commission Agenda From this article: Included in the submitted materials is a document that explains another possibility – that the CME Federal Credit Union building next door could eventually be redeveloped as well, bringing the overall unit total to 200 and the amount of “community-commercial” space to 40,000 square feet. would be great to see that building get redeveloped. Hopefully it would be a tear down and not a renovation, but any type of affordable housing is good in the end. Would it even be possible to fit 200 units in the current building? It seems like it would have to be a redevelopment.
February 23, 20232 yr 17 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: Would it even be possible to fit 200 units in the current building? It seems like it would have to be a redevelopment. It says it would bring the overall unit total to 200, and the building replacing united way has 130 units. Not sure if they could fit 70 in that current building either, so I would assume a new 4-5 story in that spot.
February 23, 20232 yr 44 minutes ago, VintageLife said: It says it would bring the overall unit total to 200, and the building replacing united way has 130 units. Not sure if they could fit 70 in that current building either, so I would assume a new 4-5 story in that spot. Nah, we should preserve that historic building too! But seriously, I think you’re right. It would have to be a bulldoze and redevelop. Hopefully it would be a separate building, rather than one mega block tower. That would be great if both of those old office buildings and all that surface parking could go, though!
February 28, 20232 yr Ohio Democratic Party HQ replacement, Jaycee Arms expansion present tweaked designs to Downtown Commission The developer behind a planned affordable housing project at the former site of the Ohio Democratic Party headquarters building is making changes to its proposal. Fairfield Homes presented plans to the Downtown Commission Tuesday to build a new five-story, 68-unit building at 340 E. Fulton St. The bulk of the units, 80%, would be priced for those at 60% of the area median income and the remaining units would be market-rate, Fairfield Homes previously told Columbus Business First. The new building plans were presented conceptually, meaning no action was taken. The commission approved the demolition of the two-story building on the site in January 2022. At the time demolition was approved, the building was slated to be slightly smaller: four stories with 60 units. It would also have been U-shaped; new plans show it shaped like an L. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/28/340-fulton-columbus-democratic-party-hq-apartments.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 28, 20232 yr 5 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Ohio Democratic Party HQ replacement, Jaycee Arms expansion present tweaked designs to Downtown Commission The developer behind a planned affordable housing project at the former site of the Ohio Democratic Party headquarters building is making changes to its proposal. Fairfield Homes presented plans to the Downtown Commission Tuesday to build a new five-story, 68-unit building at 340 E. Fulton St. The bulk of the units, 80%, would be priced for those at 60% of the area median income and the remaining units would be market-rate, Fairfield Homes previously told Columbus Business First. The new building plans were presented conceptually, meaning no action was taken. The commission approved the demolition of the two-story building on the site in January 2022. At the time demolition was approved, the building was slated to be slightly smaller: four stories with 60 units. It would also have been U-shaped; new plans show it shaped like an L. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/28/340-fulton-columbus-democratic-party-hq-apartments.html I wish they would have pushed back on the building not having commercial space. I get that is a weird area of town, but could be great.
February 28, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, ColDayMan said: Ohio Democratic Party HQ replacement, Jaycee Arms expansion present tweaked designs to Downtown Commission The developer behind a planned affordable housing project at the former site of the Ohio Democratic Party headquarters building is making changes to its proposal. Fairfield Homes presented plans to the Downtown Commission Tuesday to build a new five-story, 68-unit building at 340 E. Fulton St. The bulk of the units, 80%, would be priced for those at 60% of the area median income and the remaining units would be market-rate, Fairfield Homes previously told Columbus Business First. The new building plans were presented conceptually, meaning no action was taken. The commission approved the demolition of the two-story building on the site in January 2022. At the time demolition was approved, the building was slated to be slightly smaller: four stories with 60 units. It would also have been U-shaped; new plans show it shaped like an L. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/02/28/340-fulton-columbus-democratic-party-hq-apartments.html Glad to see more floors!
March 1, 20232 yr More on the state preservation office’s objection to AspireColumbus: Downtown Columbus mixed-use, mixed-income project hits snag with State Historic Preservation Office “…But the Columbus Metropolitan Housing Authority and The Community Builders, who plan to redevelop the property, have been told tearing down the existing building could have an "adverse effect," on other historic properties nearby and the property "could be eligible" for the register, CMHA's Bob Bitzenhofer said during Tuesday's Columbus Downtown Commission meeting. Bitzenhofer said conversations continue with the State Historic Preservation Office; and the developers, city of Columbus at the State Historic Preservation Office are working to resolve the issue. The three parties have had one meeting so far, but it's unclear when or how the issue will be resolved. The developers are working to find other interested parties, like nearby property owners, to get involved in the conversation, and Bitzenhofer said conversations continue. "I would hope if the community, (the developers) and the city can agree, that SHPO wouldn't put pressure on us," Bitzenhofer said. "This seems like a project that checks a lot of boxes for what the city wants downtown."’ https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2023/03/01/aspire-columbusunited-way-historic-preservation.html What do they even mean that it could have an “adverse effect on other historic properties nearby”? Too much shade on the historic parking lot across the street? And if the preservation office wants to keep the building so badly, they can pay to have it uprooted and moved to the fairgrounds. Lord knows there’s enough space out there for it. On a positive note, though, it sounds like the DTC is supportive of the project.
March 1, 20232 yr 32 minutes ago, amped91 said: the Columbus Metropolitan Housing Authority and The Community Builders, who plan to redevelop the property, have been told tearing down the existing building could have an "adverse effect," on other historic properties nearby and the property "could be eligible" for the register It's inconceivable how this could have an adverse effect. I guess it's good that the State Historic Preservation Office is being careful about demolition of a building that they consider to be historical in nature, but this is just ridiculous. Hopefully they see the light and allow the project to move forward.
March 1, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, cbussoccer said: It's inconceivable how this could have an adverse effect. I guess it's good that the State Historic Preservation Office is being careful about demolition of a building that they consider to be historical in nature, but this is just ridiculous. Hopefully they see the light and allow the project to move forward. This is a good case for the just because it’s old, doesn’t mean it’s historic argument. This building is awful and will never add to the area, like this new build will. I tried sending an email to the State Historic Preservation office and never got anything back. Hopefully they realize how dumb they are and allow the project to move forward.
March 1, 20232 yr https://csids.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2022-State-of-Downtown.pdf The 2022 State of Downtown is out. Lots of info. Something I noticed is that they use census tract estimates to tally our downtown population. The problem being it leaves out likely thousands: The original North Bank Condo building The Reach on Goodale 600 Goodale Buggyworks In the future it won't include: Astor Park The Peninsula Seems to me they should go down to the block level for more accurate measures.
March 1, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, aderwent said: https://csids.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2022-State-of-Downtown.pdf The 2022 State of Downtown is out. Lots of info. Something I noticed is that they use census tract estimates to tally our downtown population. The problem being it leaves out likely thousands: The original North Bank Condo building The Reach on Goodale 600 Goodale Buggyworks In the future it won't include: Astor Park The Peninsula Seems to me they should go down to the block level for more accurate measures. Yeah that seems strange, those areas are very much part of downtown, other than the reach and 600 Goodale, I feel those are outside enough. This probably hurts downtown when trying to draw a grocer, because they only look at the data.
March 1, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, VintageLife said: Yeah that seems strange, those areas are very much part of downtown, other than the reach and 600 Goodale, I feel those are outside enough. Yea I definitely wouldn't consider those to be "downtown". 1 hour ago, VintageLife said: This probably hurts downtown when trying to draw a grocer, because they only look at the data. I highly doubt it. Any reasonably sized grocer or retailer with have tools giving them access to customizable demographic info. They won't be relying on an annual municipality report.
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