Can anyone provide insight on this? I was just poking around today and came across this, but am confused by the address. Am I just an amateur and missing something?

6 minutes ago, smjjms said:

Can anyone provide insight on this? I was just poking around today and came across this, but am confused by the address. Am I just an amateur and missing something?

I saw that the other day. Address placed it in some random field.

16 minutes ago, smjjms said:

Can anyone provide insight on this? I was just poking around today and came across this, but am confused by the address. Am I just an amateur and missing something?

I think this might be the lot in clintonville that is currently a car dealership. I know that is the person that bought it, so I would assume that is where it’s at. 

Edited January 30, 20241 yr by VintageLife

1 minute ago, VintageLife said:

Why is a 5 story allowed on high street? I’m sick of this crap. 

Well, they wouldn't let the 11 story go or the 17 story so yeah not surprised. 

Just now, columbus17 said:

Well, they wouldn't let the 11 story go or the 17 story so yeah not surprised. 

I went back and edited my comment, I looked at the owner of the land and it looked familiar to me and I’m pretty sure I’m right. 

1 minute ago, VintageLife said:

I went back and edited my comment, I looked at the owner of the land and it looked familiar to me and I’m pretty sure I’m right. 

Wdym?

25 minutes ago, columbus17 said:

I saw that the other day. Address placed it in some random field.

 So 0 N High would mean that they aren't planning on using the existing address of the site and that it's going to be a new parcel when they're done (I think). Perhaps combining parcels. The most common use of 0 addresses is on raw land such as farmland or fallow.

16 minutes ago, columbus17 said:

Wdym?

I meant it is this project, 

 

Arch City Development sells Clintonville site, but apartments still planned

 

10 hours ago, VintageLife said:

I meant it is this project, 

 

Arch City Development sells Clintonville site, but apartments still planned

 

 

Yes, it's that project based on the parcel number on the application (010-003021).

On 1/8/2024 at 8:07 PM, CbusOrBust said:

 

Couple quick looks at the Front St conversion to two way operation

 

 

 

Link for reference:

 

https://www.columbus.gov/Templates/Detail.aspx?id=2147523658

 

 

Orange barrels are up on Marconi as the Front/Marconi two way conversion project continues to ramp up

 

 

 

The protective wall in front of the seafood restaurant going in on the corner has started to come down...

 

 

 

42 minutes ago, .justin said:

The protective wall in front of the seafood restaurant going in on the corner has started to come down...

 

 

 

Wow, I love it, they did a great job giving that building a little bit of character. 

Not sure if this goes here

 

12-Story Building Proposed for Downtown Parking Lot, Capitol Square Lot Also Eyed

 

Another surface parking lot Downtown could be going away if a new proposal from Edwards Companies moves forward. Preliminary plans have been submitted to the City of Columbus to build a 12-story tower at 33 S. Fourth St., a one-acre lot located in between the YMCA Building and the PNC Building (now known as Preston Centre).
 

The submitted plans call for a 180-foot-tall building with 221 apartments, a third floor amenity deck, and a rooftop clubhouse and pool. A three-floor, 200-space parking garage would occupy the lower levels of the structure (one level would be underground), and the first floor would have about 4,700 square feet of space for a retail tenant.

 

The architect listed on the documents is Kephart, a Denver-based firm that has worked with Edwards Companies on several other projects previously, including The Nicholas (at the corner of Gay and High), and a 13-story building currently under construction at 195 E. Broad St. (this is sad)

 

 

8 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

Not sure if this goes here

 

12-Story Building Proposed for Downtown Parking Lot, Capitol Square Lot Also Eyed

 

Another surface parking lot Downtown could be going away if a new proposal from Edwards Companies moves forward. Preliminary plans have been submitted to the City of Columbus to build a 12-story tower at 33 S. Fourth St., a one-acre lot located in between the YMCA Building and the PNC Building (now known as Preston Centre).
 

The submitted plans call for a 180-foot-tall building with 221 apartments, a third floor amenity deck, and a rooftop clubhouse and pool. A three-floor, 200-space parking garage would occupy the lower levels of the structure (one level would be underground), and the first floor would have about 4,700 square feet of space for a retail tenant.

 

The architect listed on the documents is Kephart, a Denver-based firm that has worked with Edwards Companies on several other projects previously, including The Nicholas (at the corner of Gay and High), and a 13-story building currently under construction at 195 E. Broad St. (this is sad)

 

 

Happy to see the infill, but Kephart needs to step it up or this will be a third disappointing design opportunity for them in Columbus.

Love that Edwards has really built up the Gay and High area and is now taking over Cap Square. I imagine the 12 story will have connectivity to the elevated park too, so this should end up being a really neat, connected area of DT. 
 

Also have no faith that CH will start anything on their lot this decade lol

Why is Crawford Hoying the only developer, seemingly, who bemoans 'Challenges Downtown'... just sell your properties and stick to the suburbs then. I feel like he's the only one that is constantly saying why he isn't developing downtown. 

Anyone know what specific challenges he's talking about?

5 minutes ago, PizzaScissors said:

Happy to see the infill, but Kephart needs to step it up or this will be a third disappointing design opportunity for them in Columbus.

I will say the front windows actually look decent in this rendering, but the roof is awful. 

Just now, Kriegs said:

Anyone know what specific challenges he's talking about?

Probably the ones about him being a terrible developer for urban downtowns. 

4 minutes ago, Kriegs said:

Anyone know what specific challenges he's talking about?

My guess would be primarily office vacancy. 

I dont think it's office vacancy thats his concern. BizFirst just did a piece in January about how he's 'bullish' on office space and building a bunch of new office space despite the market because he believes it will be needed and he wants to be ready.

 

It's probably retail vacancy and crime or some stuff like that. 

Edited February 6, 20241 yr by DTCL11

35 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

12-Story Building Proposed for Downtown Parking Lot, Capitol Square Lot Also Eyed

 

Brent Crawford, Principal and Founder of Crawford Hoying, confirmed to Columbus Underground that the company owns both parcels, and that they are considering building on the parking lot.

“We are working on a potential redevelopment of the parking lot, however, have no specific plans or timeframe at this point,” he said. “With the challenges that exist Downtown we want to continue to see improvement before pulling the trigger on what will likely be a significant development.”

THIS LOOKS SO GOOD! I'm mindblown!

21 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

I will say the front windows actually look decent in this rendering, but the roof is awful. 

I like the roof up front - on the back it needs help.

59 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

Why is Crawford Hoying the only developer, seemingly, who bemoans 'Challenges Downtown'... just sell your properties and stick to the suburbs then. I feel like he's the only one that is constantly saying why he isn't developing downtown. 

And they’re the ones that own three extremely important parking lots (capital square and atlas)… So that’s fun.

1 hour ago, VintageLife said:

I will say the front windows actually look decent in this rendering, but the roof is awful. 

I'm sensing hostility towards French Second Empire mansard roofs...

13 minutes ago, smjjms said:

And they’re the ones that own three extremely important parking lots (capital square and atlas)… So that’s fun.

At least he says it will “be likely significant development” haha

15 minutes ago, Pablo said:

I'm sensing hostility towards French Second Empire mansard roofs...

I love it! I did not expect this building to look remotely like this. I think that firm fired the guy who designed the Gilbert and northern portion of The Nicholas... (seriously - in what world is that stuff acceptable)

I guess Edwards failed to get the memo about 'Challenges downtown' and needing 'to see continued improvement' downtown before making any commitments with a significant development. He should call up CH and tell them to get their you know what's out of you know where. 

Crawford Hoying lost me forever with High + Cherry.

 

Every other developer in River South has pulled off their projects and leased them up, yet CH claims it's a rough market that doesn't pencil out. I mean how bad can it really be, LC lost 8 years on their High + Rich towers AND STILL turned around and built Main + Front. Dude then lost his mind when @jon81ohquestioned the garbage spin he was giving on the project to the DT commission and press. Frankly CH doesn't deserve to play downtown anymore, I hope he sells off the land to a dev who actually has a vision and the ability to make things happen. Last thing we need is another bait and switch or some suburban brained project on the most prominent site left on the square. 

 

End rant. 

3 hours ago, DevolsDance said:

Crawford Hoying lost me forever with High + Cherry.

 

Every other developer in River South has pulled off their projects and leased them up, yet CH claims it's a rough market that doesn't pencil out. I mean how bad can it really be, LC lost 8 years on their High + Rich towers AND STILL turned around and built Main + Front. Dude then lost his mind when @jon81ohquestioned the garbage spin he was giving on the project to the DT commission and press. Frankly CH doesn't deserve to play downtown anymore, I hope he sells off the land to a dev who actually has a vision and the ability to make things happen. Last thing we need is another bait and switch or some suburban brained project on the most prominent site left on the square. 

 

End rant. 

For this one, unless they bring in a partner, I'd like to see Edwards + Wood Companies. Best of both worlds there.

1 hour ago, columbus17 said:

For this one, unless they bring in a partner, I'd like to see Edwards + Wood Companies. Best of both worlds there.

I’m pretty excited to see what Riewald Development gets in to too. I like their proposal in the Warehouse District and he used to work for Pizzuti, and I like the majority of their work. I wouldn’t mind if they had their hand in this area too. 

6 hours ago, DevolsDance said:

Crawford Hoying lost me forever with High + Cherry.

 

Every other developer in River South has pulled off their projects and leased them up, yet CH claims it's a rough market that doesn't pencil out. I mean how bad can it really be, LC lost 8 years on their High + Rich towers AND STILL turned around and built Main + Front. Dude then lost his mind when @jon81ohquestioned the garbage spin he was giving on the project to the DT commission and press. Frankly CH doesn't deserve to play downtown anymore, I hope he sells off the land to a dev who actually has a vision and the ability to make things happen. Last thing we need is another bait and switch or some suburban brained project on the most prominent site left on the square. 

 

End rant. 

 

Yes, I wrote an article about that project and was less than kind about the incredible waste of the site it was. They were not pleased at all. Good times. 

4 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

 

Yes, I wrote an article about that project and was less than kind about the incredible waste of the site it was. They were not pleased at all. Good times. 

Do it again, or maybe we should be mad at you. You might be the reason they refuse to build anything decent haha

11 hours ago, smjjms said:

And they’re the ones that own three extremely important parking lots (capital square and atlas)… So that’s fun.

Well… I guess I can pull back my claws but only slightly. I was re-reading the article and Columbus Underground edited the article and issued an apology:

 

“That building, along with the parking lot next door, has been controlled since 2015 by an LLC called 34 South Third Ltd. The auditor’s website lists the same address for that LLC as Crawford Hoying, the Dublin-based developer responsible for building Bridge Park. Brent Crawford, Principal and Founder of Crawford Hoying, said that the company does not own those parcels. (A previous version of this story stated that it did, but that was based on a misunderstanding – Brent Crawford was referring to the Atlas Building and its adjacent parking lot, at 8 E. Long St.)” 

9 hours ago, smjjms said:

Well… I guess I can pull back my claws but only slightly. I was re-reading the article and Columbus Underground edited the article and issued an apology:

 

“That building, along with the parking lot next door, has been controlled since 2015 by an LLC called 34 South Third Ltd. The auditor’s website lists the same address for that LLC as Crawford Hoying, the Dublin-based developer responsible for building Bridge Park. Brent Crawford, Principal and Founder of Crawford Hoying, said that the company does not own those parcels. (A previous version of this story stated that it did, but that was based on a misunderstanding – Brent Crawford was referring to the Atlas Building and its adjacent parking lot, at 8 E. Long St.)” 

This makes a lot more sense to me, as I didn't think they had a major presence downtown. The Atlas and adjacent parking lot were a fairly recent purchase for them. 

10 hours ago, smjjms said:

Well… I guess I can pull back my claws but only slightly. I was re-reading the article and Columbus Underground edited the article and issued an apology:

 

“That building, along with the parking lot next door, has been controlled since 2015 by an LLC called 34 South Third Ltd. The auditor’s website lists the same address for that LLC as Crawford Hoying, the Dublin-based developer responsible for building Bridge Park. Brent Crawford, Principal and Founder of Crawford Hoying, said that the company does not own those parcels. (A previous version of this story stated that it did, but that was based on a misunderstanding – Brent Crawford was referring to the Atlas Building and its adjacent parking lot, at 8 E. Long St.)” 

SMH, Columbus Underground. You looked up that 34 South Third Ltd. has controlled the site since 2015, but didn't notice that it "transferred" for $0? It's clearly still owned by the Wolfe family.

3 hours ago, aderwent said:

SMH, Columbus Underground. You looked up that 34 South Third Ltd. has controlled the site since 2015, but didn't notice that it "transferred" for $0? It's clearly still owned by the Wolfe family.

CU has been slipping… their Intel article also made me question them quite a bit but I bit my tongue

Edwards Cos. plans 12-story tower on surface parking lot in downtown Columbus

 

Edwards Cos. wants to build a 12-story tower on a downtown Columbus surface parking lot.

 

The developer submitted preliminary plans to the city for 33 S. 4th St., a surface parking lot owned by Capitol Square LTD, a wholly owned affiliate of The Dispatch Printing Company that manages the company’s commercial real estate development and investment activities. Capitol Square LTD owns several parcels on South 4th and South 3rd streets, according to the Franklin County Auditor.

 

The property has been a surface parking lot since the early 1990s. Downtown Columbus has more than 200 acres of surface parking lots, something many planners, developers, advocates and politicians hope to see change.

 

Preliminary plans submitted show a building with 221 apartments, a rooftop clubhouse and a pool. There would be three levels of structured parking in the building, including one underground. The first floor would have about 4,700 square feet of retail space.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/02/07/edwards-downtown-columbus-tower.html

 

On 2/6/2024 at 1:36 PM, Pablo said:

I'm sensing hostility towards French Second Empire mansard roofs...

This would also apply to me...but I am trying to keep an open mind. Maybe they can be encouraged to push it up a few more floors?

 

Nice to see the new  arrivals coming in at 10-15 floors instead of the five over one and goodbye to another surface lot.

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2024/02/19/local-plans-for-big-bucks-from-state-come-with-few-details/72584984007/

 

Columbus' proposed share of at least a portion of the state's "Super Duper Fund" of leftover federal COVID-19 emergency dollars includes $10 million for a new Downtown project called the "Columbus Capital Line."

 

But Cole did say that the project envisions "a 2-mile loop, exclusive to pedestrian and bike traffic," that would be "dotted with public art and other experiences."

 

Anyone have any insight into what exactly this is? If it's just a bike/pedestrian trail of sorts, I'm struggling to envision where it would go or how it would be built. It doesn't sound like it would be on the actual roadways, since on-street paths normally aren't designed for pedestrians, and it would be difficult to incorporate art and "experiences" from a street-based trail. So I'm curious to know the form and place this would take.

48 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2024/02/19/local-plans-for-big-bucks-from-state-come-with-few-details/72584984007/

 

Columbus' proposed share of at least a portion of the state's "Super Duper Fund" of leftover federal COVID-19 emergency dollars includes $10 million for a new Downtown project called the "Columbus Capital Line."

 

But Cole did say that the project envisions "a 2-mile loop, exclusive to pedestrian and bike traffic," that would be "dotted with public art and other experiences."

 

Anyone have any insight into what exactly this is? If it's just a bike/pedestrian trail of sorts, I'm struggling to envision where it would go or how it would be built. It doesn't sound like it would be on the actual roadways, since on-street paths normally aren't designed for pedestrians, and it would be difficult to incorporate art and "experiences" from a street-based trail. So I'm curious to know the form and place this would take.

Edward’s project?

1 hour ago, jonoh81 said:

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/2024/02/19/local-plans-for-big-bucks-from-state-come-with-few-details/72584984007/

 

Columbus' proposed share of at least a portion of the state's "Super Duper Fund" of leftover federal COVID-19 emergency dollars includes $10 million for a new Downtown project called the "Columbus Capital Line."

 

But Cole did say that the project envisions "a 2-mile loop, exclusive to pedestrian and bike traffic," that would be "dotted with public art and other experiences."

 

Anyone have any insight into what exactly this is? If it's just a bike/pedestrian trail of sorts, I'm struggling to envision where it would go or how it would be built. It doesn't sound like it would be on the actual roadways, since on-street paths normally aren't designed for pedestrians, and it would be difficult to incorporate art and "experiences" from a street-based trail. So I'm curious to know the form and place this would take.

 

Sounds like they want it to be similar to the Indianapolis Cultural Trail, which is primarily along roadways.

 

random snippet from google street view:

1 hour ago, .justin said:

 

Sounds like they want it to be similar to the Indianapolis Cultural Trail, which is primarily along roadways.

 

random snippet from google street view:

 

If this is what is planned, I wonder if it would require any kind of road diets to accomodate it so that sidewalks can remain unaffected. 

Edited February 19, 20241 yr by jonoh81

2 hours ago, columbus17 said:

Edward’s project?

 

Would be amazing to have a 2-mile elevated trail around Downtown, but I'm leaning more towards a Cultural Trail clone as others mentioned.

1 hour ago, jonoh81 said:

 

If this is what is planned, I wonder if it would require any kind of road diets to accomodate it so that sidewalks can remain unaffected. 

They have been talking about 3rd or 4th being more biker friendly, so I could possibly see it going on one of those stretches, at least part of it 

Sounds like a carbon copy of the Indy trail which would be a nice improvement. My guess from the dispatch article is it will go up Broad from the peninsula to about Washington, probably over to Rich, and then back down to the river, claiming a traffic lane (or two) along each. That would hit COSI, Vets, the Statehouse, CCAD, Art Museum, Topiary Park, Main Library, Franklin, Columbus Commons, and the new Symphony Hall

 

I'd love to see another project to continue a dedicated bikeway further east on Broad to Franklin Park and Bexley as well 

6 minutes ago, NW24HX said:

Sounds like a carbon copy of the Indy trail which would be a nice improvement. My guess from the dispatch article is it will go up Broad from the peninsula to about Washington, probably over to Rich, and then back down to the river, claiming a traffic lane (or two) along each. That would hit COSI, Vets, the Statehouse, CCAD, Art Museum, Topiary Park, Main Library, Franklin, Columbus Commons, and the new Symphony Hall

 

I'd love to see another project to continue a dedicated bikeway further east on Broad to Franklin Park and Bexley as well 

That is a perfect starting point I think and could easily lead off into other areas. 

Updates to the Galleria building will go to the DTC this month:

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, amped91 said:

Updates to the Galleria building will go to the DTC this month:

 

 

 

 

 

I like it - I just wish they would've replaced the building or added height to it.

On 2/20/2024 at 11:41 AM, amped91 said:

Updates to the Galleria building will go to the DTC this month:

 

 

 

 

 

The commission tabled this today, because they said the patio addition is overwhelming to the church and the steps of the high line. I’m so confused by the crap that they complain about. It looks great and makes the galleria building look way better. Let the damn restaurant bring some liveliness to the area.