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54 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

The commission tabled this today, because they said the patio addition is overwhelming to the church and the steps of the high line. I’m so confused by the crap that they complain about. It looks great and makes the galleria building look way better. Let the damn restaurant bring some liveliness to the area. 

 

The 'single-story patio addition looks overwhelming to the church' while being surrounded by towers. I know why they exist, but these commissions are stifling the growth and development that the city needs. We need to stop treating every proposal in the city like it's Disneyland/Simcity. 

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12 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

 

The 'single-story patio addition looks overwhelming to the church' while being surrounded by towers. I know why they exist, but these commissions are stifling the growth and development that the city needs. We need to stop treating every proposal in the city like it's Disneyland/Simcity. 

Exactly, it’s basically a patio that could very easily go away if the restaurant leaves. One commissioner even suggested reworking park of the high line to make it shorter. It’s dumb as hell. 

1 hour ago, VintageLife said:

The commission tabled this today, because they said the patio addition is overwhelming to the church and the steps of the high line. I’m so confused by the crap that they complain about. It looks great and makes the galleria building look way better. Let the damn restaurant bring some liveliness to the area. 

That's crazy. If anything is overwhelming the church, it's the miniature highways called 3rd and Broad street just steps away from their front door.  

16 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

We need to stop treating every proposal in the city like it's Disneyland/Simcity.

Now Disneyland I can see, but if we treated it like it was SimCity, we'd be allowing any skyscraper to rise up , just as long as our population was over 50,000 =P 

And brownouting the SFH hahaha. Seriously, I played the SNES version recently and didn't remember how bad the R-zone brownout bug was. There were probably 20-25 zones affected around town. I had plenty of power plants and powerline redundancy. You could tear them down and put in commercial zones but then some other R-zone would start acting up and going down to mud huts. Googled and there's nothing you cand do.

Downtown Commission signals support for CAPA project that would transform historic church, tear down 1920s addition

 

CAPA's plan to renovate a historic downtown Columbus church and tear down a later addition appears to have support from a key body.

 

CAPA plans to spend $14 million transforming the Central Presbyterian Church at 132 S. 3rd St. into a music and event venue.

 

The organization Tuesday presented its plan to the Columbus Downtown Commission on a conceptual basis, meaning no action was taken. But commissioner feedback was positive, and the arts organization will now take steps to secure a certificate of appropriateness from the commission.

 

The Historic Resources Commission will also need to sign off on the project.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/02/27/capa-historic-columbus-church-music-venue-project.html

 

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38 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

Downtown Commission signals support for CAPA project that would transform historic church, tear down 1920s addition

 

CAPA's plan to renovate a historic downtown Columbus church and tear down a later addition appears to have support from a key body.

 

CAPA plans to spend $14 million transforming the Central Presbyterian Church at 132 S. 3rd St. into a music and event venue.

 

The organization Tuesday presented its plan to the Columbus Downtown Commission on a conceptual basis, meaning no action was taken. But commissioner feedback was positive, and the arts organization will now take steps to secure a certificate of appropriateness from the commission.

 

The Historic Resources Commission will also need to sign off on the project.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/02/27/capa-historic-columbus-church-music-venue-project.html

 

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Schooley Caldwell did this one - I'm shocked if it doesn't pass. They're experts in historic structures.

Yeah... but that staircase overwhelms the historic structure. Should be tabled... for consistency sake that is.

7 hours ago, columbus17 said:

Schooley Caldwell did this one - I'm shocked if it doesn't pass. They're experts in historic structures.

They had zero negatives to say about this one. That’s what made it so weird about the other project. 

State of Downtown for EoY 2023 is out. Some comparisons I see to 2019:

 

  • 9,270 residents -> 12,000: +2,730 (+29%)
  • 93.6% occupancy -> 90%: -3.6%
  • 6,888 units -> 9,413: +2,525 (+37%)
  • 12,606,724ft² office -> 13,615,437: +1,008,713 (+8%)
  • 14.0% vacancy -> 21.1%: +7.1%
  • $21.37 lease rate -> $24.01: +$2.64 (+12%)
  • 34,155 students -> 37,264: +3,109 (+9%)
  • 17 hotels -> 20: +3
  • 4,223 rooms -> 5,165: +942 (+22%)
  • 66.5% occupancy -> 54.3%: -12.2%
  • $106.61 rate -> $173.43: +$66.82 (+63%)

The only negatives I see are office vacancy and hotel occupancy. Though neither are as bad as it looks:

 

We went from 10,841,783ft² of office space rented to 10,878,734ft². So more office space is rented now than in 2019.

 

We went from 1,025,028 room stays to 1,023,677 room stays. So roughly the same.

18 minutes ago, aderwent said:

State of Downtown for EoY 2023 is out. Some comparisons I see to 2019:

 

  • 9,270 residents -> 12,000: +2,730 (+29%)
  • 93.6% occupancy -> 90%: -3.6%
  • 6,888 units -> 9,413: +2,525 (+37%)
  • 12,606,724ft² office -> 13,615,437: +1,008,713 (+8%)
  • 14.0% vacancy -> 21.1%: +7.1%
  • $21.37 lease rate -> $24.01: +$2.64 (+12%)
  • 34,155 students -> 37,264: +3,109 (+9%)
  • 17 hotels -> 20: +3
  • 4,223 rooms -> 5,165: +942 (+22%)
  • 66.5% occupancy -> 54.3%: -12.2%
  • $106.61 rate -> $173.43: +$66.82 (+63%)

The only negatives I see are office vacancy and hotel occupancy. Though neither are as bad as it looks:

 

We went from 10,841,783ft² of office space rented to 10,878,734ft². So more office space is rented now than in 2019.

 

We went from 1,025,028 room stays to 1,023,677 room stays. So roughly the same.

Downtown is well on its way to hitting that 40,000 residents by 2040 goal. It could even get there a few years early if it keeps that rate of growth. 

16 minutes ago, Kriegs said:

Downtown is well on its way to hitting that 40,000 residents by 2040 goal. It could even get there a few years early if it keeps that rate of growth. 

That would be amazing. I’m hoping my wife and I will be 2 of those 40,000 at some point. 

11 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

That would be amazing. I’m hoping my wife and I will be 2 of those 40,000 at some point. 

Me and my fiancé, who currently own a home on the west side that has already roughly doubled in value in 5 years (so glad I bought in 2018), have a 10-15 year plan to transition to condo living downtown.  We will definitely be part of this change.

35 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

That would be amazing. I’m hoping my wife and I will be 2 of those 40,000 at some point. 

Come join me! 😁

Where are all of the children going to go to school?

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29 minutes ago, John7165 said:

Where are all of the children going to go to school?

How many of these are families with young children vs young professionals without children or empty nesters?

10 minutes ago, KyleofColumbus said:

How many of these are families with young children vs young professionals without children or empty nesters?

Just my two cents, but I believe if you want long term, stable areas and neighborhoods which I think we all want, you have to have families in the mix. When I was young, I was very transient, moving almost yearly from one apartment to the next. It makes for unstable neighborhoods, but with families, they have a vested interest to strive and fight for the best for the area

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14 minutes ago, KyleofColumbus said:

How many of these are families with young children vs young professionals without children or empty nesters?

 

At the moment, most people moving downtown do not have children. We need to change that though. If we want to create a real, vibrant, residential area, it needs to be livable for families. One of the reasons the Columbus metro area has seen such steady growth decade after decade is because it's largely a very livable area for families. Not all metro areas can say that. Families tend to be more committed to an area, and they provide natural, long-term, population growth. 

 

I'm not saying downtown needs to be exclusively built for families, I just think we need to do a better job of making it more livable for them.  

46 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

At the moment, most people moving downtown do not have children. We need to change that though. If we want to create a real, vibrant, residential area, it needs to be livable for families. One of the reasons the Columbus metro area has seen such steady growth decade after decade is because it's largely a very livable area for families. Not all metro areas can say that. Families tend to be more committed to an area, and they provide natural, long-term, population growth. 

 

I'm not saying downtown needs to be exclusively built for families, I just think we need to do a better job of making it more livable for them.  

It's going to be a tough adjustment. It's just so easy to live that white picket fence suburban happy safe family life 20 minutes outside of downtown that there isn't much of an incentive currently. Especially, as others have mentioned, your kids would be going to some subpar public schools. Other cities the incentive is "living downtown you don't need to commute an hour+ to get to work" but that's really not a problem around here.

2 hours ago, amped91 said:

Come join me! 😁

I wish we could, we aren’t there yet, but are hoping to reach that point! 

1 hour ago, John7165 said:

Where are all of the children going to go to school?

We don’t have kids and don’t plan on having any, so that wouldn’t be a problem, for us.

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Early work at the Front/Marconi two way conversion project 

 

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Is the first pic bollards being installed for a separated bike lane?

6 minutes ago, amped91 said:

Is the first pic bollards being installed for a separated bike lane?

 

We was wondering the same thing.

We thought it was either that, or maybe protecting the building from vehicles?

The sidewalk isn't changing. It just allows much more room along the sidewalk for pedestrians instead of the giant 'temporary' concrete barriers that were there for many years. 

The bollards are probably a Homeland Security requirement for Federal Courthouses.

Had to share this image I just saw on Facebook. The description said it was in High St facing south at Chestnut St. 

 

it’s really sad seeing these images, Columbus would be so far ahead if idiots wouldn’t have destroyed downtown. Hopefully these new strategic plans can bring back some of this. 

 

 

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This is part of this month’s meeting and wasn’t posted yet. It is sad that another dive type bar is going away, for most likely a more upscale place, the plans for the front of this building will be amazing for Gay St and is probably closer to what the building looked like originally. 
 

The new business will be capped Capital Tavern. 
 

 

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7 hours ago, VintageLife said:

This is part of this month’s meeting and wasn’t posted yet. It is sad that another dive type bar is going away, for most likely a more upscale place, the plans for the front of this building will be amazing for Gay St and is probably closer to what the building looked like originally. 
 

The new business will be capped Capital Tavern. 
 

 

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It is the same ownership of Arch City Tavern in the Short North.  I'm sure it will be somewhat more upscale from TipTop, but their style is still relatively casual.  From what I understand the building physically was on the verge of collapse, so I'm very happy to see this moved to ownership that is capable of making the necessary changes and structural needs.

 

Did they give any anticipated timeline by chance?

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30 minutes ago, Gnoraa said:

It is the same ownership of Arch City Tavern in the Short North.  I'm sure it will be somewhat more upscale from TipTop, but their style is still relatively casual.  From what I understand the building physically was on the verge of collapse, so I'm very happy to see this moved to ownership that is capable of making the necessary changes and structural needs.

 

Did they give any anticipated timeline by chance?

Upscale casual kinda crushes it here in Columbus. You can feel kinda fancy but wear your sweatpants there. 

1 hour ago, Gnoraa said:

It is the same ownership of Arch City Tavern in the Short North.  I'm sure it will be somewhat more upscale from TipTop, but their style is still relatively casual.  From what I understand the building physically was on the verge of collapse, so I'm very happy to see this moved to ownership that is capable of making the necessary changes and structural needs.

 

Did they give any anticipated timeline by chance?

It didn’t have much info at all. It is just a conceptual application, so they probably are making sure it fits with the area before anymore info comes. I can’t see the commission being against it at all 

14 hours ago, TIm said:

Upscale casual kinda crushes it here in Columbus. You can feel kinda fancy but wear your sweatpants there. 


Wearing sweatpants and feeling fancy are never supposed to be in the same sentence. 

Now that it’s officially spring, any news on when “Current” is set for reinstallation over High Street?

6 hours ago, jeremyck01 said:


Wearing sweatpants and feeling fancy are never supposed to be in the same sentence. 

 

That's the entire Business model of Lululemon. 

10 hours ago, jeremyck01 said:


Wearing sweatpants and feeling fancy are never supposed to be in the same sentence. 

This is Columbus! That's our entire vibe! Dress up to go to Applebees or wear sweatpants to the fancy place!

That's evidence of more Appalachian influence 😉

Downtown Columbus apartment building moves forward with commission approval

 

A downtown Columbus affordable housing project is moving forward following a redesign.

 

Lancaster-based Fairfield Homes plans to build an apartment complex at 340 E. Fulton Street, a property previously home to the offices of the Ohio Democratic Party.

 

The developer came to the Downtown Commission this week to get approval of the redesign, which Joseph Wickham, director of development, said was in part an effort to bring down the project's cost.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/03/27/apartments-affordable-columbus-fulton-downtown.html

 

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On 2/20/2024 at 11:41 AM, amped91 said:

Updates to the Galleria building will go to the DTC this month:

 

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They lightened this a bit and made the top above the entrance more flat and the commission approved it. This will be a great addition to downtown. Hopefully they move quickly on it. 

I’m glad they added more units and created some tucked in parking. But I’m frustrated the project is still incorporating surface parking. There’s so many lots nearby. Surely they could strike a deal with FU or someone to allow residents to park there, if they own a car? And use the open space as a park or amenity. 

 

Also, any chances we hear anything on Estrella or the United Way tower this year?

13 hours ago, amped91 said:

I’m glad they added more units and created some tucked in parking. But I’m frustrated the project is still incorporating surface parking. There’s so many lots nearby. Surely they could strike a deal with FU or someone to allow residents to park there, if they own a car? And use the open space as a park or amenity. 

 

Also, any chances we hear anything on Estrella or the United Way tower this year?

United Way is - doubtful. If it happens it will be much smaller.

Development Still Planned for Former Greyhound Site, Hearing Scheduled for Current One

 

There could be some movement as soon as this spring on a plan to redevelop the former Downtown Greyhound station. The Central Ohio Transit Authority bought the 2.5-acre site in 2021, but since then has been slowly working through a multi-step process with the Federal Transit Administration – to maintain its eligibility for federal funding in the future, a detailed environmental and historical review of the property needs to be completed.
 

That process is about to wrap up, clearing the way for the next step, which COTA’s leadership says will likely involve a new transit center and a significant new mixed-use development.

 

“We really would like to partner with the development community to see what is feasible…what type of mixed-use development should be on that site,” said Joanna Pinkerton, COTA’s President/CEO. “We own the land, but we see the development community coming in and really building that out in the future.”

Seems like something is up with the Sheraton (former Hyatt) Hotel on Capitol Square... driving by yesterday all hotel brand signage has been removed from the building exterior (at least at street level, I'm not sure about the skyline graphic), and online, the property is not bookable for the entirety of this week

 

The building was sold at the end of last year, but nothing official has been announced since. I wouldn't be surprised if the hotel is either closing, has been dropped by the Sheraton flag, or is being eyed for residential conversion by the new ownership

1 minute ago, NW24HX said:

Seems like something is up with the Sheraton (former Hyatt) Hotel on Capitol Square... driving by yesterday all hotel brand signage has been removed from the building exterior (at least at street level, I'm not sure about the skyline graphic), and online, the property is not bookable for the entirety of this week

 

The building was sold at the end of last year, but nothing official has been announced since. I wouldn't be surprised if the hotel is either closing, has been dropped by the Sheraton flag, or is being eyed for residential conversion by the new ownership

There was an article with Edwards or another developer talking about how that hotel was a very hard one for residential conversion. I guess it could be done, but he said it was cost prohibitive. 

Rebranding to 'The Plaza Hotel at Capital Square' still managed by Marriott

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On 3/30/2024 at 6:02 PM, NW24HX said:

That's good to hear. I walked by last week midday and the lights to illuminate Current were on. I was wondering if that has to do with it going back up soon or if those have been on all winter...

1 hour ago, DTCL11 said:

Rebranding to 'The Plaza Hotel at Capital Square' still managed by Marriott

It needs remodeled as well.

1 hour ago, columbus17 said:

It needs remodeled as well.

Didn’t it just get a remodel a few years ago? 

1 hour ago, columbus17 said:

It needs remodeled as well.

 

It was completely remodeled in 2013. Yes, those design choices were intentionally made just a bit over a decade ago. 

 

You'd be surprised how many travelers prefer the decor of the existing. Granted, many of those being a certain age and income bracket but if the rooms are booking, they won't update it for awhile. If the booking levels decrease, then we would be more likely to see a modernization. 

10 years is a long time for anything to not get remodeled in Columbus!

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