Posted April 19, 200619 yr This was alluded to in the Knowlton thread. Please post pics if you have them. From the OSU Lantern, 4/19/06: Age-old building faces demolition Adam Van Hart Issue date: 4/19/06 Section: Campus Walking into Lord Hall is like walking back in time. The building, home of the anthropology department, opened to the public a century ago. http://www.thelantern.com/media/storage/paper333/news/2006/04/19/Campus/AgeOld.Building.Faces.Demolition-1861164.shtml?norewrite200604191825&sourcedomain=www.thelantern.com
April 19, 200619 yr Hmmm...bah. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 20, 200619 yr Bah indeed, I love Lord Hall; especially the way it sits diagonally on its plot. It's really a nice old building, it's too bad OSU let it deteriorate into such a state. Oh, but there's pleanty of money to build a Taj Mahal recreation center... :roll:
April 20, 200619 yr I worked for UTS, CIR, man it had like 4 names when I worked out of Lord Hall in the 90's delivering TV's and projectors around campus. Back in '95 they were trying to figure out where they were going to move to because Lord Hall was going to be demolished within two years...... It aint going anywhere
April 20, 200619 yr It took me the entire thread to remember where Lord Hall is (to the right of Denney Hall and across the street from Derby & Hayes Halls). Having never taken a step into Lord (but passed it thousand times going to/from Denney & Derby) I lean towards "saving" it, but if it really is beyond reclamation, then do what must be done. :cry:
April 20, 200619 yr http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://ghmchs.org/Packard/images/lord_jpg.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ghmchs.org/Packard/pages/lord_jpg.htm&h=276&w=648&sz=46&tbnid=gJBo2JbIwzi-uM:&tbnh=57&tbnw=135&hl=en&start=45&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522lord%2Bhall%2522%26start%3D40%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN see if this link works
April 22, 200619 yr well, it is a Packard, but not that great of a building. there has been talk of tearing this building down for a couple decades now, but it just never happens .if tOSU has something planned for the site, then sure, tear it down. just please no parking lot.
April 22, 200619 yr heres a picture of the building off the osu website. its hard to see it but you get the picture. :lol:
April 23, 200619 yr well, it is a Packard, but not that great of a building. there has been talk of tearing this building down for a couple decades now, but it just never happens .if tOSU has something planned for the site, then sure, tear it down. just please no parking lot. I'd see green space coming before a parking lot. Other than 17th & 18th St. theres no vehicle access, and those streets are restricted to buses and super rich parking pass holders. I don't see tarmack in the future for that location.
April 24, 200619 yr Having been in that building a few times, I was convinced it was going to demolish itself while I was inside it. I had my eyes on the exits at all times because I thought the old thing was going to just collapse when I was there. OSU likes to let buildings get to the brink of danger and then demolish them rather than renovate. A few examples: the now former Larkins Hall, and that absolute atrosicity the Ohio Union. I work at the Union and some of the things I've seen behind the scenes make me not want to be in there, I'll say that much. Enjoy:-)
December 2, 200717 yr Demolition of Firestone Mansion Proposed In response to Columbus Foundation’s announcement of plans for rehabilitation and expansion of their headquarters in the Old Governor’s Mansion at 1234 East Broad Street, Columbus Landmarks has called a special meeting of its Board of Trustees to address the issue of the proposed demolition of the Firestone Mansion. Since the announcement, Columbus Landmarks’ officers have met with Doug Kridler, Executive Director of the Columbus Foundation. The Board and staff of Columbus Landmarks Foundation welcome your input regarding this issue. Please address your comments to Kathy Mast Kane, Executive Director. The Board will be meeting Wednesday September 5th. The Firestone Mansion at 1266 East Broad Street, named on behalf of the original residents, Joseph F. and Josephine Firestone, was listed in the National Register of Historic Places* in 1987 as a contributing building in the East Broad Street Historic District. This district nomination is part of a larger collective nomination called the East Broad Street Multiple Resource Area, which includes not only this linear district, but also several individual and clustered buildings along the East Broad Street corridor between Parsons Avenue and Nelson Road. These listed resources “represent the remaining wealth and diversity of structures along East Broad St., the major residential corridor and east-west axis in Columbus during Broad Street’s major period of growth and development from the mid-nineteenth century to the mid-1930s.” (National Register nomination) The Firestone Mansion was built ca. 1906, soon after construction of the Old Governor’s Mansion. (The Old Governor’s Mansion was built in 1904 as the home of Charles Lindenberg, president of the Lillia Regalia Co., which produced flags and bunting. It got its’ popular name from having served as the residence of 10 governors between 1920 and 1957.) The Firestone Mansion was designed in the Second Renaissance Revival architectural style, one of 17 high styles of architecture represented along the historic residential corridor. The style was popular for major commercial, public and residential buildings from the 1890s through the 1930s. Architectural historians speculate that this building was designed by local renowned architect Frank Packard, like the Governor’s Mansion next door. Research is still being conducted, however. The Firestone Mansion is unusual among the residences on East Broad Street in that it has the effect of a raised basement and is a full three stories. It was built as a substantial house of fine materials with many expensive details. All four elevations are laid in Flemish bond, a form of brickwork in which every other brick is laid with its short end exposed for the resulting pattern. Flemish bond is more expensive than conventional brickwork because it takes greater skill to lay and uses many more bricks. That all four elevations of the house are laid in Flemish bond is indicative of the fact that this is a house on which no expense was spared. The Firestone Mansion is also recognized as historically important for its association with Joseph F. Firestone, a vice president and manager of the Columbus Buggy Company at the time the house was built. The Columbus Buggy Company was a thriving business by the late 1800s. The company expanded to a new factory at 400 Dublin Avenue after the turn of the century, not long before Joseph Firestone had this house built. The company was focused on preparing to exhibit its new Firestone-Columbus automobile at the 1909 Chicago Auto Show when the Joseph Firestone family moved in. The company was soon to sell over 2,000 cars a year. Firestone died in 1914 and his wife lived at the residence until her death ca. 1918. The house was converted to six luxury apartments by the late 1920s. Joseph’s brother, Clinton D., was founder of the Columbus Buggy Company along with Oscar and George M. Peters in 1875. Clinton, president of Columbus Buggy Company, also lived on East Broad Street, at #580. After he died in 1914, the house became the longtime offices of Columbus Mutual Life Insurance Company. It was demolished in 1962. Joseph F. and Clinton D. were related to Harvey Firestone of Firestone Tire and Rubber: all were descended from the same Columbiana County, Ohio family. Joseph and Clinton were cousins of Harvey Firestone’s father, making them Harvey Firestone’s first cousins once removed. Contrary to popular belief, listing in the National Register of Historic Places does not prohibit demolition or alteration. Although a few of the individual and clustered buildings along East Broad Street have been listed in the Columbus Register of Historic Properties, neither the Old Governor’s Mansion nor the Firestone Mansion are among them. It is listing in this local Columbus Register that would provide the opportunity for any exterior plans for rehabilitation or demolition to be reviewed by the Columbus Historic Resources Commission. If you have a question regarding this threatened historic resource, or would like to get involved, contact Columbus Landmarks at 614.221.0227 or at [email protected]. http://columbuslandmarks.org/preservation/firestone.php
December 2, 200717 yr oh columbus, wasn't the kahiki enough? in the name of all that was euclid avenue don't do that!
December 3, 200717 yr I only skimmed the article, but I didn't see who wants to tear it down and why?
December 3, 200717 yr What a gorgeous mansion. It would be a stupid move to demolish something so important to the history of Columbus.
April 27, 200817 yr OSU deconstructing two halls Elyse Coulter Kenny Greer/The Lantern Lord Hall is set to be demolished, joining three other construction sites on campus, including the Thompson Library, The Ohio Union and Brown Hall. www.thelantern.com/media/storage/paper333/news/2008/02/25/Campus/Osu-Deconstructing.Two.Halls-3232256.shtml]http://media.www.thelantern.com/media/storage/paper333/news/2008/02/25/Campus/Osu-Deconstructing.Two.Halls-3232256.shtml
April 27, 200817 yr They should keep the shells of Lord and Brown. Look at the "John Glenn Building" for how to do it right. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 27, 200817 yr The Ohio State Board of Trustees is going to tear down Lord Hall for a parking lot and Brown Hall for a grass lot. Demolition is imminent, so we need to act fast. www.thelantern.com/media/storage/paper333/news/2008/02/25/Campus/Osu-Deconstructing.Two.Halls-3232256.shtml]OSU deconstructing two halls[/url] Elyse Coulter Issue date: 2/25/08 Section: Campus Ohio State will tear down two 100-year-old buildings this spring. Lord Hall will be replaced with more parking spaces, and Brown Hall will fall to give students more green space. Elyse Coulter can be reached at [email protected]. OSU Board of Trustee contact info: 210 Bricker Hall 190 North Oval Mall Columbus, Ohio 43210 Phone: (614) 292-6359 Fax: (614) 292-5903
May 28, 200817 yr Thanks for posting Columbusite. I can't speak for Lord Hall but I definitely remember Brown Hall. I haunted its hallways while getting an architecture degree at OSU some 15 years ago. If Brown Hall goes down, it will make the third building demolished where I had architecture classes. Here's a map of the Brown Hall area: Building Demo #1 was the Brown Hall Annex, located at 004 and 007 on the map. The Annex was a humble one-story pile of red bricks and ivy. Its demo was no great loss and it got replaced with some well designed new buildings. Building Demo #2 was Ives Hall. It was located where the current Knowlton School of Architecture Building was built at Woody Hayes Drive and Neil Avenue (017 on the map). Building Demo #3, Brown Hall is at 016 on the map. A photo of its front entrance from 17th Avenue is shown below. Didn't spend as much time at Brown Hall because it was primarily used for Admin Offices and Faculty Offices at the time. A good looking building on its front facade facing 17th Avenue. Not so good looking on the sides and back due to some dowdy looking later additions. And not anything special inside. I keep up with the Architecture Alumni newsletters but hadn't heard anything about this pending demo of Brown Hall. Apparently, its been vacant since the School of Architecture left for brighter digs at the Knowlton.
May 28, 200817 yr Hey, I was in all three as well! Oy...Ives. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 1, 200816 yr Just when I thought the Columbus Landmarks Foundation wasn't acting on this issue I get an email this morning: Keith, I apologize for not getting back to you sooner regarding your inquiry into our advocacy efforts pertaining to OSU and their announcement to demolish Lord and Brown Halls. After members like yourself brought this to our attention, we sent a letter to OSU and received a response, essentially stating the proposed demolitions were "in the best interest of student safety." It is our intent to post the letter we submitted and the response we received on Landmark's website in the near future. Following up on a suggestion in OSU's response letter, we have contacted them to set up a meeting to discuss our involvement in future campus planning efforts. We have contacted statewide preservation organizations in the interest of strengthening our voice (since OSU is a resource of statewide importance) and invited them to attend this upcoming meeting with us and OSU representatives. This meeting will take place later this week. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you, again, for your interest and support, Kathy
July 2, 200816 yr A quick FYI ... we are meeting with them tomorrow (Wednesday). To my mind, OSU has an opportunity, as the "flagship" state university, to set a strong model for preservation and design. Thomas/presOhio
August 3, 200816 yr Why doesn't OSU just not building parking structures. Force their employees to park in a commuter lot far away and take a shuttle. I can see parking being necessary in the private sector, but when dealing with a university, you don't have to offer these types of incentives to get people to work for you.
December 11, 200816 yr A fence has been set up around Lord Hall and there's a bulldozer. Take a pic before it's gone for good.
February 5, 200916 yr Lord Demo from today. Will try to get a shot of the front on Friday. OSU is doing exactly the opposite of deconstruction, but hey, who are they accountable to besides themselves?
February 6, 200916 yr is green space officially replacing this building? And isnt it Lourde Hall, not Lord?!? Oh Lord.
February 7, 200916 yr UGH! "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 7, 200916 yr Yeah they are Green alright. Green motivated - liars. Checked out some stories in the lantern where Christine (sp)Poldeman was quoted as saying there's a difference between demolition and deconstruction. She went on to define demolition by saying it includes dozers and cranes, whereas deconstruction is a piece by piece method. Apparently she's not too bright, because a track hoe is part of the bulldozer family. Further, in regards to all of this "green" "deconstruction" bullcrap that they totally patted themselves on the back for last fall....Lord Hall still had furniture in most rooms, flush valves on the toilets (not cheap), drinking fountains, filing cabinets, display cases and chalk boards. Sure, of course, none of that could possibly be reused or cycled. (sarcasm) Further, the roof support system was made of fine old growth timbers the size of railroad ties. Have you ever seen what those look like when planed down and sanded? Talk about hardwood floors you can't find at Lowe's. Also destroyed were all of the original 5 panel doors, radiators, window glass, marble, stone, tile, paver style brick, cap stones, lighting, and well maintained shrubs/bushes planted at it's outside walls. All stuff that people renovating old homes would love to have, and might even haul away for free. Apparently though, that's not green (cough) enough for OSU. Bottom line. They removed nothing, and landfilled everything.
February 19, 200916 yr My little exposé of OSU leadership. I just let the quotes and the reality speak for themselves. And here's a clip of Brown Hall.
February 20, 200916 yr I'm just blown away. A parking lot? It just doesn't seem consistent with the direction many universities are taking with campus planning. I've recently become interested in campus planning (since that sector seems to be doing well.) I've read how many Universities want to take their surface lot count to zero, and locate parking structures to the periphery. It just seems all backwards to be building them in the first place. It can be valid at times to argue that the buildings just don't serve their purpose effectively anymore. (I usually disagree with that since anything can be retrofitted.) But the failure to replace them with anything worthy is a crime. Here's a photo I took last fall. Just look at how well the views are framed here. What a shame it's gone.
February 20, 200916 yr I believe the actual plan is to build a new hall OVER the "temporary" parking lot. Still, demo'ing Lord and Brown is just wrong. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 20, 200916 yr They say they're going to build a new building where Lord was, but Brown is slated to be "green space". I'm guessing grass and a couple of trees with sidewalks.
February 20, 200916 yr Hell, it'll be an extention of that "greenspace" infront of the SEL. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 20, 200916 yr well I remember them (forget who 'them' is) saying the master plan for the oval is to 'extend' it out into the surroundings. They said they were hoping to 'green' the connections. It looks like they are literally creating connections as well.
July 6, 200915 yr Here's the new (temporary?) parking lot. But first, OSU patting themselves on the back for being so "green".
February 24, 201015 yr Couldn't the money the city wants to spend on demolition be used to rehab the building? Why are they so intent on demolition? Historic Building Gets 2-Week Stay On Demolition COLUMBUS, Ohio—A neighborhood group has been given two weeks to find an engineer to say whether a historic building is safe. The historic Edna Building is located at East Long Street at 21st Street on the city’s near East Side. It’s just down the street from the newly restored Lincoln Theatre. The Bronzeville Neighborhood Association, which includes the King-Lincoln District, has been trying to keep the deteriorating building from being demolished and has been given another two weeks to find an independent engineer to deem it safe. continued w/ video...
May 19, 201015 yr Monday the fight to save the former Methodist church on East Long Street ended when it started being demolished. There was an attempt to renovate the building last year. http://www2.nbc4i.com/news/2010/may/17/fight-save-church-ends-demolition-ar-79193/ For a picture and history of the church go here... http://columbuslandmarks.org/advocacy/centenary-church.php
February 24, 201213 yr Columbus Underground: 900 Abandoned Homes to be Demolished in Columbus Dispatch: City to raze 900 vacant houses - $11.5 million project will take at least three years
February 24, 201213 yr Follow up to yesterday's announcement that the City will demolish 900 abandoned homes in the next three years. Coleman forms unit to monitor neglected properties By Mark Ferenchik, The Columbus Dispatch Friday, February 24, 2012 - 7:12 AM Acknowledging that they haven’t kept up with blight spread by 6,200 vacant and abandoned houses, Columbus officials have created a unit to monitor the properties and crack down on bad landlords. A main goal will be to acquire dangerous vacant houses and raze them. It’s part of what Mayor Michael B. Coleman calls a “comprehensive attack” on the vacant properties that plague many of the city’s poorest neighborhoods. The city plans to spend $11.5 million in the next three to four years to demolish 900 vacant houses it deems dangerous. Coleman said yesterday that the city also plans to: • Lend $1 million to help owners restore 36 rental houses and vacant properties. • Provide $1.9 million in loans and grants to preserve and restore homes in the Old Oaks neighborhood east of Nationwide Children’s Hospital. • Create a land-care program in which residents who maintain vacant lots after houses are demolished can acquire those lots through sweat equity. • Compile quarterly lists of landlords who have a history of neglecting properties and publish their names in newspapers. MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/02/24/a-war-on-blight.html
November 20, 201212 yr City demolition project is 14% completed By Mark Ferenchik, The Columbus Dispatch Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 7:23 AM Columbus has demolished 123 buildings this year, about 14 percent of the 900 “worst of the worst” properties that Mayor Michael B. Coleman said he wants torn down. An additional 37 buildings are in the pipeline to be torn down, according to John Turner, the city’s land bank administrator, and more are being tested for asbestos or are in line to be assigned to a demolition contractor. The vast majority of the 123 buildings that have come down are vacant houses in the city's poorest areas that have seen population decline - Franklinton, Linden, the Near East Side and the South Side. READ MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/11/13/city-demolition-project-is-14-completed.html
December 19, 201212 yr City publishes list of problem landlords By Mark Ferenchik, The Columbus Dispatch Wednesday, December 12, 2012 - 8:25 AM The city has put the owners of 111 Columbus properties on notice by publishing their names — an effort, officials say, to publicly shame the owners into bringing their vacant, dilapidated properties up to code. If they don't, their properties face demolition. Coleman said in February that the city would publish a list of landlords with a history of ignoring orders to maintain properties. It's part of his effort to demolish 900 "worst of the worst" houses. READ MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/12/12/city-publishes-list-of-problem-landlords.html
February 20, 201411 yr Franklin County and Praire Township are cracking down on code enforcement issues. The first major area to feel the impact of this enforcement is a large and long-troubled apartment complex on the west side. More about this below from Business First: 408 apartments at former Lincoln Park West complex set for demolition By Brian R. Ball, Staff reporter Columbus Business First - Jan. 30, 2014, 2:39pm EST Prairie Township and a Franklin County nonprofit redevelopment entity have joined forces to knock down 408 apartment units within the former Lincoln Park West complex near the Hollywood Casino and shuttered Westland Mall. Prairie Township Administrator Tracy Hatmaker told me 17 apartment buildings with 24 units each will get demolished in the garden-style, 2½-story “California” section of the complex, now called Metro West. The complex off Georgesville Road south of West Broad Street, known 30 years ago as Shannon Way, sold in 2003 for $13.65 million to New York-based Matrix Realty Group Inc. The complex gained notoriety in September 2004 when 10 people died in a fire there. All the properties set for demolition are vacant, Hatmaker said. (. . .) The township, Hatmaker said, signed a written agreement with the landlord in late October calling for the owner to begin demolition of the buildings in December. That demolition has not taken place. So the township has asked the Central Ohio Community Improvement Corp. and the Ohio Attorney General’s office to fund the estimated $2 million demolition, which could begin in two weeks. The COCIC will coordinate the actual demolition. MORE: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2014/01/204-apartments-at-former-lincoln-park.html
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