No new development projects announced yet, but New Albany’s annexation of the 3,190 acres from Jersey Township announced in January continues. I’m sure it won’t be long before we  hear about new job centers being built on this land. 
 

Developer looks to rezone, annex 500-plus acres near Intel into New Albany

 

 

“A developer is seeking a rezoning of 509.17 acres in Licking County bound for the the New Albany International Business Park, adding even more growth to the commercial hub.

 

MBJ Holdings LLC, an affiliate of the New Albany Co., is seeking to rezone 19 properties from agricultural to limited general employment district.

 

The 509.17 acres was part of the original 3,190-acre annexation agreement, but not all that land has been annexed yet. 
 

Scott McAfee, spokesperson for New Albany, said the property owners would determine their course of action on annexation on their own timeline.”

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/communities/new-albany/2022/09/14/intel-ohio-site-new-albany-developer-rezone-annex-nearby-land/69494138007/

This might be a dumb question but does the land become part of Franklin County when it is annexed by New Albany? My initial thought was no, but that begs the question of how one city can be in two different counties. 

Edited September 15, 20222 yr by Mogilny89

1 minute ago, Mogilny89 said:

This might be a dumb question but does the land become part of Franklin County when it is annexed by New Albany? My initial thought was no, but that begs the question of how one city can be in two different counties. 

 

No, county boundaries do not change. There are cities that overlap counties. Pickerington is a good example of that.

51 minutes ago, Mogilny89 said:

This might be a dumb question but does the land become part of Franklin County when it is annexed by New Albany? My initial thought was no, but that begs the question of how one city can be in two different counties. 

 

Just an FYI, Columbus city is in three different counties. 

49 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

No, county boundaries do not change. There are cities that overlap counties. Pickerington is a good example of that.

New Albany has been an example of that for many years already! Reynoldsburg is an even better example since it's in Franklin, Licking and Fairfield. The cities just have to come up with agreements on which county is providing which services. I use to work for the Licking County Health Department and any New Albany food facilities in Licking County were inspected by Franklin County but in Reynoldsburg it depended on which county your specific area of the city was in so it could be one of three different departments depending on the address. 

Hmm, probably why Reynoldsburg has its own courthouse. 

All across the state, multiple cities and villages exist in multiple counties.

 

Historically, there is at least one example of the state legislature changing county boundaries to reflect city boundaries--the Cuyahoga County boundary was moved to accommodate Chagrin Falls....but that was 1841! 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Mogilny89 said:

This might be a dumb question but does the land become part of Franklin County when it is annexed by New Albany? My initial thought was no, but that begs the question of how one city can be in two different counties. 

 

The City of Columbus currently is in three counties- Franklin, Fairfield and Delaware.

It's also basically right up against the borders of Pickaway, Licking and Union counties as well. 

Of the six counties that touch Franklin County, it's furthest from the Madison County line, although it's not really that far from Madison County either.

 

 

 

Edited September 15, 20222 yr by Luvcbus

2 hours ago, Luvcbus said:

 

The City of Columbus currently is in three counties- Franklin, Fairfield and Delaware.

It's also basically right up against the borders of Pickaway, Licking and Union counties as well. 

Of the six counties that touch Franklin County, it's furthest from the Madison County line, although it's not really that far from Madison County either.

 

 

 

You have Union and Madison reversed here.

9 minutes ago, aderwent said:

You have Union and Madison reversed here.

 

Thank you.  You are correct.  

 

I originally thought Union County extended a little bit further south than it does.

 

 

Tree clearing and other work has started on VanTrust's 500-acre New Albany Tech Park near the Intel site

 

 

 

 

 

 

Amgen's new manufacturing facility continues to rise 

(along 161 near Beech Rd exit)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 5/19/2022 at 1:30 PM, Luvcbus said:

 

Companies plan 190-acre New Albany site to develop a data center and industrial campus to accommodate up to 1.2 million square feet.

 

"Real estate and investment firms Lincoln Property Company (LPC) and Harrison Street are to develop a new data center and industrial campus in New Albany, Ohio.

 

A joint venture between the two companies has purchased a 190-acre site to construct a multi-use technology and distribution park designed for industrial and data center users and operators.

 

The data center campus can accommodate up to 1.2 million square feet and 144MW of critical load designed specifically for hyperscalers and other major operators.

 

LPC’s Chicago-based Midwest team will begin immediate construction on the first phase of the campus. Lincoln Rackhouse, the data center division of LPC, will immediately begin development of the data center campus which will include the construction of an on-site 200MVA, electrical sub-station.

 

“Qualified ‘powered’ data center sites are becoming increasingly difficult to find in Tier 1 data center markets such as Northern Virginia and Chicago. The location in New Albany, Ohio offers the perfect environment for the next phase of large hyperscale and colocation growth,” Martin Peck, Executive Vice President, Lincoln Rackhouse."

 

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/lincoln-property-company-harrison-street-buy-columbus-site-for-144mw-campus/

 

 

Got a quick one earlier of this massive new data center campus now dubbed "Silicon Heartland Innovation Park" that broke ground a few months ago near Intel.

 

This is phase 1 of the 190 acre Technology and Distribution Park designed for industrial and data center users and operators.

 

 

 

 

Houses continue to come down at the site of VanTrust's 500-acre "New Albany Tech Park". 

 

There are only two more houses left (on the main part of the site) that still need to come down.

People were actively moving out of one of them today.

 

 

 

 

 

There's only one house still standing on what will be VanTrust's 500-acre "New Albany Tech Park". 

 

Work on site has really been picking up over the last couple weeks.

 

The newly built Haul Rd, which runs directly to the Intel site, is just behind this shot

 

 

 

 

Few more from the New Albany Tech Park -going up on land adjacent to Intel

 

 

 

 

Axium Packaging invests $45M in new recycling facility, buys 83 acres for future expansion in New Albany
 

 

“Axium Packaging has quietly grown into one of Central Ohio's largest employers, as the company continues to expand at what is now its headquarters in New Albany. The manufacturer of plastic packaging products launched in 2010 in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada. It still has two facilities in that city, but today it calls New Albany home.

 

Axium is spending $45 million to construct an additional facility called Vertix, also the name of a new product line for the manufacturer. In addition, the company just acquired 83 acres to ensure it has space for future expansions. This growth will add to the $400 million Axium has invested in New Albany facilities and production equipment in recent years.
 

The 120,000-square-foot Vertix site — located off State Route 161 at the intersection of Worthington Road and Ganton Parkway — will house the company's new recycling business, Axium President Paul Judge told me in an exclusive interview. The facility, slated for completion in January 2023, is the first of three phases for the recycling project.
 

Separate from the Vertix complex is the 83 acres Axium purchased off Jug Street at near the future home of Intel Corp.'s planned semiconductor manufacturing complex. 
 

Judge said his company was landlocked at its current facilities, which necessitated the need to find another location for future expansions. There are some ideas on the table for how to utilize the acreage, but Judge said nothing has been finalized.”

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/12/07/axium-packaging-new-albany-expansions.html
 

New Albany offers VanTrust tax break for developing tech park near Intel site
 

“The city of New Albany has granted VanTrust Real Estate LLC a tax abatement on the development of the New Albany Tech Park adjacent to the Intel site.

 

City Council on Dec. 6 approved the abatement 6-0 while expanding the community-reinvestment area (CRA) in the New Albany International Business Park that essentially includes the tech-park land. Councilwoman Marlene Brisk was absent.

 

Phase 1 would include about 10 buildings totaling approximately 1.5 million to 2 million square feet of speculative industrial, distribution or manufacturing being constructed across 159 acres. The initial investment is estimated to be $120 million to $160 million.

 

Additionally, the proposed project is to create about 500 to 1,500 full-time jobs with roughly $20 million to $60 million of payroll upon completion.”

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/local/communities/new-albany/2022/12/07/new-albany-expands-cra-grants-vantrust-a-tax-abatement-for-building-of-tech-park/69706858007

 

Construction begins on first two buildings at Silicon Heartland Innovation Park

 

"A massive master-planned development in New Albany is starting to take shape, with construction underway on what could potentially grow to a seven-building, 2 million-square-foot campus.

 

Silicon Heartland Innovation Park, located at the corner of Beech and Jug streets near New Albany International Business Park, is a $400 million development that will total 190 acres.

 

The site has been cleared, a cul-de-sac running through the development is in place, and storm sewers and a retention basin were installed. Most recently, building slabs have been poured and the walls are starting to come up."

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/12/09/silicon-heartland-innovation-park.html

 

On 12/10/2022 at 9:38 AM, Luvcbus said:

 

Construction begins on first two buildings at Silicon Heartland Innovation Park

 

"A massive master-planned development in New Albany is starting to take shape, with construction underway on what could potentially grow to a seven-building, 2 million-square-foot campus.

 

Silicon Heartland Innovation Park, located at the corner of Beech and Jug streets near New Albany International Business Park, is a $400 million development that will total 190 acres.

 

The site has been cleared, a cul-de-sac running through the development is in place, and storm sewers and a retention basin were installed. Most recently, building slabs have been poured and the walls are starting to come up."

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/12/09/silicon-heartland-innovation-park.html

 

 

First building rising quickly at Silicon Heartland Innovation Park

 

 

 

 

 

Progress continues on the next cluster of Amazon warehouses going up near Harrison and Jug about a half mile from the Intel site

 

 

On 12/14/2022 at 1:38 PM, CbusOrBust said:

 

Progress continues on the next cluster of Amazon warehouses going up near Harrison and Jug about a half mile from the Intel site

 

 

Server warehouses you mean 😉. These are AWS data centers.

 

I also noticed today that back in April QTS bought land in front of Google across from Meta, and just south of the Amazon fulfillment center for $15.6 million. They are a nationwide chain like DBT going in down the road. I see two of their locations are in Phoenix and Hillsboro aka other Intel locations. Strange not to have heard anything official yet. 

14 hours ago, aderwent said:

Server warehouses you mean 😉. These are AWS data centers.

 

I also noticed today that back in April QTS bought land in front of Google across from Meta, and just south of the Amazon fulfillment center for $15.6 million. They are a nationwide chain like DBT going in down the road. I see two of their locations are in Phoenix and Hillsboro aka other Intel locations. Strange not to have heard anything official yet. 

Oooooh we want to hear any and all info about spin-off development. Thanks for the info. Hopefully there will be some news soon.

14 hours ago, aderwent said:

Server warehouses you mean 😉. These are AWS data centers.

 

I also noticed today that back in April QTS bought land in front of Google across from Meta, and just south of the Amazon fulfillment center for $15.6 million. They are a nationwide chain like DBT going in down the road. I see two of their locations are in Phoenix and Hillsboro aka other Intel locations. Strange not to have heard anything official yet. 

 

25 minutes ago, Toddguy said:

Oooooh we want to hear any and all info about spin-off development. Thanks for the info. Hopefully there will be some news soon.

What is QTS?

46 minutes ago, John7165 said:

 

What is QTS?

https://www.qtsdatacenters.com/data-centers

 

Numerous buildings rising at Silicon Heartland Innovation Park

 

 

 

 

 

Crews continue clearing hundreds of trees near the Silicon Heartland Innovation Park and the New Albany Tech Park 

 

 

 

 

 

Amazon pays $117 million for nearly 400 acres near Intel site in New Albany

 

"Amazon has paid $116.6 million for nearly 400 acres near the Intel site in New Albany, but isn't saying what it plans to do with the land.

 

Amazon bought the property last week, consisting of three parcels, one on the west side of Beech Road NW, and the others straddling both sides of Miller Road on the east side of Beech Road. The property is just north of 113 acres the tech company bought three years ago for $21.8 million on the east side of Beech Road south of Miller Road.

 

All the parcels are in land that New Albany annexed last year from Jersey Township for the Intel development, among other projects.

 

The purchase is also in addition to 93 acres Amazon purchased in September for $16 million on the southeast corner of Jug Street and Harrison Road, where it planned to build a 170,000-square-foot data center."

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2023/01/25/amazon-buys-hundreds-of-acres-in-new-albany-mum-on-what-it-plans/69833373007/

 

edit: oops I'm at work so had this window open for a couple hours and didn't see this was posted almost an hour ago.

 

Doing some digging after seeing this Dispatch article: https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2023/01/25/amazon-buys-hundreds-of-acres-in-new-albany-mum-on-what-it-plans/69833373007/

 

• Ohio Health owns 57 acres at the NW corner of 161 and Beech Rd. Are they planning a hospital?
• Amazon's current five data centers are on 66 acres at the SE corner of Beech Rd. and Jug Street Rd. They now also own a smattering of other properties in the area totaling 599 acres. So they're going from 66 to 665 acres. What could they be planning? For reference Facebook's monster facilities are on 384 acres. Facebook also owns an adjacent 415 acres for a total of 799 acres.
• DBT owns two different plots. 94 acres at the SW corner of Mink St. and Jug Street Rd. and 80 acres at the SW corner of Harrison Rd. and Jug Street Rd. Are they going to have two facilities?
• I mentioned previously that QTS owns property in the area. 57 acres adjacent to the north of Google's entrance drive and 37 acres just to the south of the Google entrance drive. Still no announcement from them?
• Amgen owns 46 acres in Franklin County adjacent to their 131 acre property in Licking County. So they have a 177 acre plot. The manufacturing facility that's under construction is right in the middle of this property along Worthington Rd. The property stretches all the way to Beech Rd. I think I remember them saying this site could turn into more than just manufacturing. Wonder if they'll have any updates after the manufacturing facility opens?

Edited January 25, 20232 yr by aderwent

39 minutes ago, aderwent said:

 

• Ohio Health owns 57 acres at the NW corner of 161 and Beech Rd. Are they planning a hospital?

Oh if they do the powers that be at Licking Memorial are going to have their heads explode. When I use to have to go to LMH at my old job around 2016-2019 one of the things at the forefront of their expansion plans was to fortify the western edge of Licking County to prevent the Franklin County healthcare companies from expanding into their territory. I guess it was a driving force behind them building some new facilities in the Pataskala area.

12 minutes ago, TIm said:

Oh if they do the powers that be at Licking Memorial are going to have their heads explode. When I use to have to go to LMH at my old job around 2016-2019 one of the things at the forefront of their expansion plans was to fortify the western edge of Licking County to prevent the Franklin County healthcare companies from expanding into their territory. I guess it was a driving force behind them building some new facilities in the Pataskala area.

For reference Dublin Methodist is on only 45 acres and Mount Carmel's Dublin site is only 35 acres. So 57 acres is pretty substantial. Licking Memorial owns 99 acres nearby at the SW corner of Worthington Rd and Patterson Rd. This is 1.5 miles east of the Mink St. 161 exit and 1.5 miles west of the 310 161 exit.

1 hour ago, Luvcbus said:

"Amazon has paid $116.6 million for nearly 400 acres near the Intel site in New Albany, but isn't saying what it plans to do with the land.

I just wonder, is this much investment by Amazon unprecedented for the Columbus area, or do they have as many facilities in other metros? It seems like we have a ton of distribution and data centers from them. I'm always getting packages early!

For reference, Amazon has over $35 billion in 50 AWS data centers in Northern Virginia as the main hub of their US East Region. That doesn't include shipping facilities.  While Columbus gets alot of attention, it's not anything crazy compared to some other areas but we are a concentration area for Amazon's US East region. A high tier but not the highest. 

also, buying up and hoarding property around there isn't the dumbest thing to do these days ...

2 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

For reference, Amazon has over $35 billion in 50 AWS data centers in Northern Virginia as the main hub of their US East Region. That doesn't include shipping facilities.  While Columbus gets alot of attention, it's not anything crazy compared to some other areas but we are a concentration area for Amazon's US East region. A high tier but not the highest. 

Nobody comes near Northern Virginia when it comes to data center capacity. However, Columbus moved into top nine in the country in square footage, and grew faster than everyone but Northern Virginia and Dallas between 2012 and 2021. We've only ramped up since then with a major expansion by Facebook, an expansion and two new sites by Google, and a Cologix 4.

 

Amazon is on another level though. What are they up to here now? I think the first three sites in Columbus metro were $1.1 billion. I can't remember if that included all five data centers at each location or if it was just the initial nine (3x3). They now have six New Albany sites, three Hilliard sites, two Plain City sites, and one Dublin site. If all twelve sites get five data centers that's $7.33 billion and 60 data centers. 

Edited January 25, 20232 yr by aderwent

2 hours ago, PrestoKinetic said:

I just wonder, is this much investment by Amazon unprecedented for the Columbus area, or do they have as many facilities in other metros? It seems like we have a ton of distribution and data centers from them. I'm always getting packages early!

Their distribution centers are near ubiquitous at this point, but Columbus is one of only eight Global Infrastructure Regions in North America for AWS. Some more info:

 

https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/regions_az/

 

Big news from the Dispatch:

 

 

Amazon looking at massive technology complex in New Albany

 

"Amazon appears to be considering a massive technology complex that could contain more than 30 buildings on property it is buying near the Intel site in Licking County.

 

The Amazon development would be included in a technology park that would extend hundreds of acres from west of Beech Road to Mink Street in New Albany.

 

Amazon has not commented on its plans for the property, which include nearly 400 acres it bought along Beech Road NW this month for $116.6 million. But plans filed with the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency by the New Albany Co. show proposals for enormous data center complexes on both sides of Beech Road near Miller Road, on the new Amazon land."

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2023/01/25/amazon-buys-hundreds-of-acres-in-new-albany-mum-on-what-it-plans/69833373007

 

4 minutes ago, Luvcbus said:

 

Big news from the Dispatch:

 

 

Amazon looking at massive technology complex in New Albany

 

"Amazon appears to be considering a massive technology complex that could contain more than 30 buildings on property it is buying near the Intel site in Licking County.

 

The Amazon development would be included in a technology park that would extend hundreds of acres from west of Beech Road to Mink Street in New Albany.

 

Amazon has not commented on its plans for the property, which include nearly 400 acres it bought along Beech Road NW this month for $116.6 million. But plans filed with the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency by the New Albany Co. show proposals for enormous data center complexes on both sides of Beech Road near Miller Road, on the new Amazon land."

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2023/01/25/amazon-buys-hundreds-of-acres-in-new-albany-mum-on-what-it-plans/69833373007

 

 

 

A little more on this ^

 

The plans call for:

 

"18 buildings, each 414,724 square feet, along with a 52,272-square-foot office building and 28 acres for a substation, on the west side of Beech Road across from Miller Road.

 

11 buildings, also each 414,724 square feet, along with a 52,272-square-foot office building and 11 acres for a substation, on the east side of Beech Road, straddling Miller Road.

 

In addition, the New Albany Co. included an alternative to the first plan that calls for a similar configuration of 18 data centers, also each 414,724 square feet, along with the an office building and 28-acre substation, on the east side of Beech Road between Miller and Green Chapel roads north of Bermuda Drive. According to the paperwork filed with the application, that alternative site would cost $4.2 billion to develop."

 

 

 

Edited January 25, 20232 yr by Luvcbus

Wow, the amount of activity going on out there is going to be insane. It really will be like a “mini city.”

24 minutes ago, Luvcbus said:

 

Big news from the Dispatch:

 

 

Amazon looking at massive technology complex in New Albany

 

"Amazon appears to be considering a massive technology complex that could contain more than 30 buildings on property it is buying near the Intel site in Licking County.

 

The Amazon development would be included in a technology park that would extend hundreds of acres from west of Beech Road to Mink Street in New Albany.

 

Amazon has not commented on its plans for the property, which include nearly 400 acres it bought along Beech Road NW this month for $116.6 million. But plans filed with the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency by the New Albany Co. show proposals for enormous data center complexes on both sides of Beech Road near Miller Road, on the new Amazon land."

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2023/01/25/amazon-buys-hundreds-of-acres-in-new-albany-mum-on-what-it-plans/69833373007

 

Better resolution of the three alternatives:

 

Well that was really nice of them to save us pages and pages on this forum of us all speculating what they are planning with this land. They announced this too fast though, I didin't even get to propose my Amazon space center for one day shipments to the moon.

Edited January 25, 20232 yr by TIm

3 minutes ago, TIm said:

Well that was really nice of them to save us pages and pages on this forum of us all speculating what they are planning with this land.

Still plenty of speculation to be had! If they choose A or B, C land is still available. They also have the land along Beech across Jug Street Rd. from the current data center site, and the large site across Beech from these A&B alternative sites.

1 hour ago, aderwent said:

Still plenty of speculation to be had! If they choose A or B, C land is still available. They also have the land along Beech across Jug Street Rd. from the current data center site, and the large site across Beech from these A&B alternative sites.

So you're saying the Central Ohio Amazon Interplanetary Delivery Hub is still a possibility?!

3 hours ago, TIm said:

So you're saying the Central Ohio Amazon Interplanetary Delivery Hub is still a possibility?!

 

Found this on Twitter in response to the Amazon announcement. Thought it was fitting. 

17 hours ago, aderwent said:

Nobody comes near Northern Virginia when it comes to data center capacity. However, Columbus moved into top nine in the country in square footage, and grew faster than everyone but Northern Virginia and Dallas between 2012 and 2021. We've only ramped up since then with a major expansion by Facebook, an expansion and two new sites by Google, and a Cologix 4.

 

Amazon is on another level though. What are they up to here now? I think the first three sites in Columbus metro were $1.1 billion. I can't remember if that included all five data centers at each location or if it was just the initial nine (3x3). They now have six New Albany sites, three Hilliard sites, two Plain City sites, and one Dublin site. If all twelve sites get five data centers that's $7.33 billion and 60 data centers. 

 

i dk about lately, but when my spouse worked for google they had the largest data farm in boulder. this was back in the oughties.

 

and actually i believe her current company still shares some of that site.

 

i wouldnt be surprized if there are bigger facilities these days, i haven’t followed it.

Just some back of the envelope math, but a study I found out of NY found that about one job is created per 5958 sqft of data center space. If that pans out in New Albany, a complex of over 12.1 million sqft would produce ~2000 jobs. Not anywhere near HQ2 numbers, but still pretty impressive. 
 

I also came across this Reuters article from less than a week ago that reported Amazon plans to invest another $35 billion to expand their data centers in Virginia over the next couple of decades. And now this news for Ohio. Amazon apparently sees a lot of growth in this business. 
 

https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/amazons-aws-invest-35-bln-virginia-2023-01-20/

As of October 2022, Amazon held roughly 40% of the world market share of cloud computing. A rapid growth from 30% ish a year before. 

 

In simple terms, these data centers essentially replace our own laptop, personal computer, business data centers, etc. Companies are outsourcing their own storage and computing to these centers. 

 

We all see and know of Amazon for good and products, but AWS is basically going to own the world before long and that's what drives the data center growth. 

 

I notice the article mentioned office space which was interesting. Not alot but also not insignificant. I also know people who work for AWS locally so perhaps, without the flare, Columbus become Amazon HQ3. Unfortunately, having all the office space out there kind of sucks rather than consolidating it in a more urban area, even at a more urbanized Easton (if it ever materializes). 

I don't think New Albanians will like this comparison, but with all this recent development, it's like a fancier, data-center equivalent of the Groveport/Rickenbacker area.

1 hour ago, DTCL11 said:

 

 

I notice the article mentioned office space which was interesting. Not alot but also not insignificant. I also know people who work for AWS locally so perhaps, without the flare, Columbus become Amazon HQ3. Unfortunately, having all the office space out there kind of sucks rather than consolidating it in a more urban area, even at a more urbanized Easton (if it ever materializes). 

My memory of all the details is pretty hazy, but didn’t Amazon decide to split HQ2 between VA and NYC, effectively creating three “HQs,” then decided to pull out of NY after some local opposition? Idk how much Covid changed plans, but I wonder if there’s a real chance to still establish an HQ3 here after pulling out of NY?

 

 If that is the case, I agree though. I would like to see a substantial office presence either downtown or somewhere else that isn’t going to contribute to all this sprawl. Amazon’s office plans for VA actually don’t look bad, after all. 

31 minutes ago, amped91 said:

My memory of all the details is pretty hazy, but didn’t Amazon decide to split HQ2 between VA and NYC, effectively creating three “HQs,” then decided to pull out of NY after some local opposition? Idk how much Covid changed plans, but I wonder if there’s a real chance to still establish an HQ3 here after pulling out of NY?

 

 If that is the case, I agree though. I would like to see a substantial office presence either downtown or somewhere else that isn’t going to contribute to all this sprawl. Amazon’s office plans for VA actually don’t look bad, after all. 

Aren't these just admin buildings for the data centers? Google has them, too. Not sure that Amazon mixes offices with AWS.

 

Also, Amazon did move into Hudson Yards. They just haven't leased as much as they thought they would because of WFH. Technically Nashville would be HQ3 if NYC and VA are 2a and 2b. Nashville is where they put their logistics HQ. I guess because they're decently close to Memphis, Louisville, and CVG? I was bummed Columbus didn't get that, because they're building towers in Nashville.