Posted March 13Mar 13 Not a Trump fan but love this recommendation. Save the taxpayers $$$ and move government operations to non-DC locations throughout the country. https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/husted-turner-letter-move-nasa-hq-to-ohio/MFYH6GMFJBH5XNE2YC5ATE3F44/
March 13Mar 13 On what planet is it more efficient to move central government operations away from the central government? Republicans want the government to be less effective so they can continue to chop it into a million useless pieces.
March 13Mar 13 54 minutes ago, bumsquare said: On what planet is it more efficient to move central government operations away from the central government? Republicans want the government to be less effective so they can continue to chop it into a million useless pieces. Moving agency departments out of DC was something discussed under Biden and he should have done it. It is a good policy assuming it is done responsibly with an appropriate transition period either allowing current employees the opportunity to move to the new HQ city or replace employees through natural attrition. To be clear I do not trust the Trump administration to carry out this policy responsibly. But moving agencies out of DC could spread government investments more evenly throughout the country and revitalize certain post-industrial cities like Cleveland or move the Departments closer to their actual operating areas like if the Department of the Interior was moved to Utah or Nevada. It would obviously need to be a gradual transition, but if Biden had done this it likely would have resulted in more immediate investments to areas that have felt left behind that Trump was able to attract. It would also make it harder for Trump/Elon to do what they are doing now. Right now the government jobs being cut are in the Maryland/Virginia area that is Blue. If these cuts were felt more widely you would theoretically get more push back from Representatives and Senators. But I don't actually think this would cause this crop of Republican Representatives or Senators to stand up to Trump.
March 13Mar 13 5 hours ago, bumsquare said: Republicans want the government to be less effective so they can continue to chop it into a million useless pieces. Or, they want to sell the pieces to to their billionaire donor friends... @LibertyBlvd e.g, privatization of functions within current agencies such as Medicaid, NASA, etc Edited March 13Mar 13 by DO_Summers Clarification
March 13Mar 13 I actually think moving agencies out of DC was a bad idea under Biden and I still think that. It would definitely save some money but it would create new inefficiencies and, most importantly, it would make it much harder to recruit good talent to government roles. No one wants to live in Wichita. That said, if it's going to happen, I hope Ohio can gobble up a few, including NASA.
March 13Mar 13 1 hour ago, ryanlammi said: No idea why Ohio would get it instead of Alabama, Florida, Texas, or California. Why not? NASA Houston made ZERO sense until LBJ, against the logic of NASA management, said put it in Houston. That said, I doubt NASA Hqs is going anywhere. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
March 15Mar 15 https://fox8.com/news/governor-dewine-pens-support-for-nasa-headquarters-to-move-to-cleveland/
March 15Mar 15 On 3/13/2025 at 10:01 AM, ryanlammi said: No idea why Ohio would get it instead of Alabama, Florida, Texas, or California. No idea why Alabama, Florida, Texas or California would get it over Ohio. In all seriousness, very few cities outside of Cleveland have the necessary housing and infrastructure in place to accommodate such a relocation.
March 16Mar 16 15 hours ago, Clefan98 said: No idea why Alabama, Florida, Texas or California would get it over Ohio. In all seriousness, very few cities outside of Cleveland have the necessary housing and infrastructure in place to accommodate such a relocation. The most-purple state on that list would get it. Anyway, it's very unlikely to happen. The promise of moving jobs "out of DC" to Wichita or Boise or Toledo regularly comes up usually right before or after an election. When was the last time it happened? As others mentioned, it's one of those "common sense" ideas that isn't based in much sense at all.
March 16Mar 16 https://www.wkyc.com/article/tech/science/aerospace/president-trump-ohio-gov-mike-dewine-cleveland-nasa-headquarters-glenn-research-center/95-3b143d7f-03df-48b5-a70d-b888fc3d0945
March 16Mar 16 Author 1 hour ago, simplythis said: https://www.wkyc.com/article/tech/science/aerospace/president-trump-ohio-gov-mike-dewine-cleveland-nasa-headquarters-glenn-research-center/95-3b143d7f-03df-48b5-a70d-b888fc3d0945 I, like many on this thread, do not trust the Trump Administration but I LOVE these potential moves. As said by many already, moving some Federal government administration functions outside of DC makes perfect sense for a number of reasons: -National Security. Having all functions in one location is a risk to our government functioning in the event of a war/attack. Covid provided we have the technology to various locations -Cost. DC is expensive and we can save the taxpayers' $$$ by moving certain functions to lower cost locales -Economics. The middle class has been decimated in certain parts of the country because politicians enacted policies that allowed US jobs to be exported abroad. These are well-paying jobs that could benefit those areas that have lost some of those manufacturing jobs that have been exported. Sure, some manufacturing may come back - but not all of it. More of this please.
March 16Mar 16 Most federal workers don't live in the DC area. It's really just the top brass that tends to be located there, along with people who need to coordinate closely with other agencies, with lawmakers, etc. Moving NASA HQ (or other agencies) from DC to another city is not saving the people any money. It likely costs the government money in increased transportation costs. And many of the people currently in DC aren't going to accept a huge pay cut to move to a city like Cleveland. There would be a ton of lost institutional knowledge with a move like this. This goes for just about any agency moving to just about any city.
March 16Mar 16 7 hours ago, westerninterloper said: The most-purple state on that list would get it. Anyway, it's very unlikely to happen. The promise of moving jobs "out of DC" to Wichita or Boise or Toledo regularly comes up usually right before or after an election. When was the last time it happened? As others mentioned, it's one of those "common sense" ideas that isn't based in much sense at all. I agree that a move is unlikely, but if it were to happen, deep red states like Texas, Ohio, and Florida would be at the top of the list. With strong government support at all levels, Cleveland/NASA Glenn would have just as good a chance as any other contender. Edited March 16Mar 16 by Clefan98
March 17Mar 17 4 hours ago, ryanlammi said: Most federal workers don't live in the DC area. It's really just the top brass that tends to be located there, along with people who need to coordinate closely with other agencies, with lawmakers, etc. Moving NASA HQ (or other agencies) from DC to another city is not saving the people any money. It likely costs the government money in increased transportation costs. And many of the people currently in DC aren't going to accept a huge pay cut to move to a city like Cleveland. There would be a ton of lost institutional knowledge with a move like this. This goes for just about any agency moving to just about any city. I work at NASA Glenn, and there are certainly several layers of HQ employees below “top brass” that work more closely with Glenn and other centers than with politicians and the like. Transportation costs are already high for these people because no research/spaceflight/testing occurs where they work. They just do frequent rounds of visits to Glenn, Langley, and Ames or Kennedy, Johnson, and Marshall. Pay scales for localities are public, and the cost of living adjustment for DC is not close to covering the actual expense of living there. For example, a GS-14 Step 1 (which would be like a high-level engineer or project manager) in DC makes $142k vs $130k in Cleveland, so it would be more like a raise to move to Cleveland. None of that is to say a move is likely or necessarily beneficial, but I think there is a case to be made. If there is a move, I think Cleveland is as logical as any other center. It’s closest to an airport (Kennedy is FL would be really tough in this respect), it’s very involved in both space and aeronautics, and it has a lot of physical space to add facilities within its footprint.
March 17Mar 17 14 hours ago, Chazz Michael Michaels said: I, like many on this thread, do not trust the Trump Administration but I LOVE these potential moves. As said by many already, moving some Federal government administration functions outside of DC makes perfect sense for a number of reasons: -National Security. Having all functions in one location is a risk to our government functioning in the event of a war/attack. Covid provided we have the technology to various locations -Cost. DC is expensive and we can save the taxpayers' $$$ by moving certain functions to lower cost locales -Economics. The middle class has been decimated in certain parts of the country because politicians enacted policies that allowed US jobs to be exported abroad. These are well-paying jobs that could benefit those areas that have lost some of those manufacturing jobs that have been exported. Sure, some manufacturing may come back - but not all of it. More of this please. We shouldn't leave the legislative branch out here. Ih this era of Zoom et al, it's entirely practical for Congressmen to spend most of their time in their districts, not DC. Make them more accessible to their constituents than they are to lobbyists.
March 17Mar 17 14 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said: Well, Cleveland/NE Ohio desperately needs something big. And this would be big. 2,500 employees would be nice. But the even-bigger gain might be the relocation of sales and government relations offices of NASA contractors. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 17Mar 17 13 hours ago, Clefan98 said: I agree that a move is unlikely, but if it were to happen, deep red states like Texas, Ohio, and Florida would be at the top of the list. With strong government support at all levels, Cleveland/NASA Glenn would have just as good a chance as any other contender. I've been worried about a move in the opposite direction--consolidating more work down in Florida, possibly even at Ohio's expense. Engineering, design, contracting, and administrative work can basically be done anywhere, but the primary launch site is going to remain Kennedy unless I've missed something absolutely huge. If there was going to be a consolidation of operations, I'd be concerned that a lot of consolidation into the Orlando area (and eastward), possibly including work currently being done at Glenn (about which I know little, admittedly, and maybe there are Ohio- or Midwest-specific reasons to keep that here).
March 17Mar 17 11 minutes ago, Gramarye said: I've been worried about a move in the opposite direction--consolidating more work down in Florida, possibly even at Ohio's expense. Engineering, design, contracting, and administrative work can basically be done anywhere, but the primary launch site is going to remain Kennedy unless I've missed something absolutely huge. If there was going to be a consolidation of operations, I'd be concerned that a lot of consolidation into the Orlando area (and eastward), possibly including work currently being done at Glenn (about which I know little, admittedly, and maybe there are Ohio- or Midwest-specific reasons to keep that here). I believe it's primarily facilities that would be difficult or impossible to efficiently move. Plus, research doesn't need to be physically consolidated to a large degree anymore. Also, Lewis/Glenn is a long standing institution within the agency, hell working there is why Ric Ocasek's dad (and him) moved here and that was during the Mercury era. My practical side says that it makes the most sense to put it by the launch facilities. In any case, I want NIH. We have better amenities than Rochester, MN and, while quite red, are purpler than Minnesota.
March 17Mar 17 12 hours ago, acd said: I work at NASA Glenn, and there are certainly several layers of HQ employees below “top brass” that work more closely with Glenn and other centers than with politicians and the like. Transportation costs are already high for these people because no research/spaceflight/testing occurs where they work. They just do frequent rounds of visits to Glenn, Langley, and Ames or Kennedy, Johnson, and Marshall. Pay scales for localities are public, and the cost of living adjustment for DC is not close to covering the actual expense of living there. For example, a GS-14 Step 1 (which would be like a high-level engineer or project manager) in DC makes $142k vs $130k in Cleveland, so it would be more like a raise to move to Cleveland. None of that is to say a move is likely or necessarily beneficial, but I think there is a case to be made. If there is a move, I think Cleveland is as logical as any other center. It’s closest to an airport (Kennedy is FL would be really tough in this respect), it’s very involved in both space and aeronautics, and it has a lot of physical space to add facilities within its footprint. I appreciate your insight. Surely people who work with multiple divisions (sorry for my lack of knowledge on terminology) will inevitably travel a lot to meet with different teams. And obviously some work can be done remote via online meetings (I'm sure that's already pretty common practice). But there are things where you probably want a central location. If you have NASA HQ in Cleveland, you're gonna lose direct flights for folks who are in other parts of the country. People who don't work at NASA but need to coordinate with them on issues will suddenly have to fly to Cleveland instead of taking the Metro to another federal office building, etc. Would NASA still function properly with a move to Cleveland (or one of the other cities)? Of course. But let's not pretend that the federal government (the taxpayer) is saving money by uprooting the federal agencies and spreading them across the country. And on a personal level for employees, I understand mathematically it might be able to be characterized as a raise by making less but moving to a cheaper city, but ultimately a lot of people aren't going to want to pack up their families and move to Cleveland to make $12k less per year. Sure housing is cheaper in Cleveland, and it might effectively be a raise, but it's not going to feel like that. There are things DC offers that cities like Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Columbus simply can't imitate. For many this would be a big step down. And this isn't a knock on Cleveland. There's a wide gap between cities like DC and anything that Ohio can offer. Some people prefer Ohio! And that's great. But I don't think many employees at NASA HQ in DC would be happy with moving to another city.
March 17Mar 17 18 hours ago, ryanlammi said: There would be a ton of lost institutional knowledge with a move like this. This goes for just about any agency moving to just about any city. In NASA's case, most of the scientific knowledge is in the Centers like Glenn, not the headquarters. The lost repositories of knowledge would be the strategists who manipulate, or try to manipulate Congress; those folks probably would probably resign rather than move - unless the move was to the White House staff. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
March 17Mar 17 40 minutes ago, ryanlammi said: I appreciate your insight. Surely people who work with multiple divisions (sorry for my lack of knowledge on terminology) will inevitably travel a lot to meet with different teams. And obviously some work can be done remote via online meetings (I'm sure that's already pretty common practice). But there are things where you probably want a central location. If you have NASA HQ in Cleveland, you're gonna lose direct flights for folks who are in other parts of the country. People who don't work at NASA but need to coordinate with them on issues will suddenly have to fly to Cleveland instead of taking the Metro to another federal office building, etc. Would NASA still function properly with a move to Cleveland (or one of the other cities)? Of course. But let's not pretend that the federal government (the taxpayer) is saving money by uprooting the federal agencies and spreading them across the country. And on a personal level for employees, I understand mathematically it might be able to be characterized as a raise by making less but moving to a cheaper city, but ultimately a lot of people aren't going to want to pack up their families and move to Cleveland to make $12k less per year. Sure housing is cheaper in Cleveland, and it might effectively be a raise, but it's not going to feel like that. There are things DC offers that cities like Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Columbus simply can't imitate. For many this would be a big step down. And this isn't a knock on Cleveland. There's a wide gap between cities like DC and anything that Ohio can offer. Some people prefer Ohio! And that's great. But I don't think many employees at NASA HQ in DC would be happy with moving to another city. In the private sector, at least the part of it I'm familiar with, the emphasis on business travel for meeting purposes has decreased dramatically over the last twenty years or so. This has been a boon not only to companies, but to the employees as well. No more blowing an entire especially long day for a one hour meeting.
March 17Mar 17 30 minutes ago, E Rocc said: In the private sector, at least the part of it I'm familiar with, the emphasis on business travel for meeting purposes has decreased dramatically over the last twenty years or so. This has been a boon not only to companies, but to the employees as well. No more blowing an entire especially long day for a one hour meeting. True is not a factor as once was. If there is a need for limited travel would be easy to get to Houston, Florida and DC (maybe United would relaunch DCA flights. Will be a good test if the DeWine and the Congressional delegation letters have any gravitas. The window to bid for this agency seems worthy of trying especially if the lease is up at its pricey building as reported and given the current Administration’s stated plans. Also federal employee satisfaction rankings always place it at/near the top so more would likely follow the agency than stay.
March 17Mar 17 4 hours ago, ryanlammi said: I appreciate your insight. Surely people who work with multiple divisions (sorry for my lack of knowledge on terminology) will inevitably travel a lot to meet with different teams. And obviously some work can be done remote via online meetings (I'm sure that's already pretty common practice). But there are things where you probably want a central location. If you have NASA HQ in Cleveland, you're gonna lose direct flights for folks who are in other parts of the country. People who don't work at NASA but need to coordinate with them on issues will suddenly have to fly to Cleveland instead of taking the Metro to another federal office building, etc. Would NASA still function properly with a move to Cleveland (or one of the other cities)? Of course. But let's not pretend that the federal government (the taxpayer) is saving money by uprooting the federal agencies and spreading them across the country. And on a personal level for employees, I understand mathematically it might be able to be characterized as a raise by making less but moving to a cheaper city, but ultimately a lot of people aren't going to want to pack up their families and move to Cleveland to make $12k less per year. Sure housing is cheaper in Cleveland, and it might effectively be a raise, but it's not going to feel like that. There are things DC offers that cities like Cleveland, Cincinnati, and Columbus simply can't imitate. For many this would be a big step down. And this isn't a knock on Cleveland. There's a wide gap between cities like DC and anything that Ohio can offer. Some people prefer Ohio! And that's great. But I don't think many employees at NASA HQ in DC would be happy with moving to another city. I largely agree with all of this. I can see pros and cons to both keeping the HQ in DC and moving it somewhere else. It doesn't feel necessary to me to rent an office building in DC for HQ, but it's probably not a huge expense in the grand scheme of things. I'd assume if HQ does move, employees would largely get to pick which site they report to, and could go to say Goddard Space Flight Center just north of DC if they didn't want to move. There are a number employees in the HQ org chart that have always reported to GRC (mainly GRC workers that got promoted), so I'd imagine there'd be more of a scattering of employees than a migration to Ohio if the HQ moved. Also, I get what you're saying about people not wanting to uproot their families, and I agree, but this is legitimate problem with the government pay scale. It cannot keep up in high cost of living areas and it makes it hard for the government to compete for talent. This effect is bad in DC, and even worse in the Bay Area, where NASA Ames workers are making maybe half of what they could in the private sector. I doubt the government pay scale will be fixed anytime soon, so moving operations to a lower cost of living area (which would probably include OH, FL, TX and any other NASA centers outside DC and CA) may actually help with talent retention and attraction.
March 17Mar 17 Moving a federal HQ should be thought out carefully and I don't trust this administration to think out anything. While this would obviously be great for Ohio, I just am concerned with all of the arbitrary BS that Trump incorporate is doing or consider doing.
March 18Mar 18 Author https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/maryland-washington-dc-fbi-headquarters-greenbelt-president-trump/ Stories like this give me less hope of NASA coming to Ohio. Why does the FBI building need to be in DC?? Maybe the answer is proximity to the CIA and Homeland Security but that seems like an old way of thinking to me. The Pandemic proved we have the technology to connect from anywhere. Why not put the FBI headquarters in the middle of the country - like Kansas City or St. Louis. I'm sure KC would cost less than DC. I'm sure St. Louis could really use the boost. Anyway, it is this sort of parochial thinking that will prevent a worthwhile move of departments like NASA outside of locations like Ohio
March 18Mar 18 Ohio's biggest biz leaders join push to bring NASA HQ to Cleveland March 17, 2025 Kim Palmer A bipartisan congressional delegation, state and regional business chambers, economic development organizations, and a growing list of private-sector companies have united to call for NASA to move its headquarters from Washington, D.C., to Glenn Research Center. In a letter released on Monday, March 17, a group of 26 business-related co-signers urged the White House and NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman “to relocate NASA Headquarters from the D.C. Beltway to the Buckeye State — the heart of the American Midwest and the birthplace of aviation.” Signatories of the letter include the Greater Cleveland Partnership (GCP), JobsOhio, Team NEO, the Ohio Chamber of Commerce and organizations representing the state's biggest cities, including Columbus, Cincinnati, Sandusky, Canton and Dayton. https://www.crainscleveland.com/politics-policy/ohio-wants-nasa-hq-move-nasa-glenn
March 18Mar 18 https://www.crainscleveland.com/politics-policy/ohio-wants-nasa-hq-move-nasa-glenn Ohio's biggest biz leaders join push to bring NASA HQ to Cleveland TL;DR: 26 business-related co-signers urged the White House and NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman “to relocate NASA Headquarters from the D.C. Beltway to the Buckeye State Greater Cleveland Partnership (GCP), JobsOhio, Team NEO, the Ohio Chamber of Commerce and organizations representing the state's biggest cities, including Columbus, Cincinnati, Sandusky, Canton and Dayton "Florida gets a lot of the publicity, but their facility, Kennedy Space Center, is principally for launches. It's not where the technologies that are going up in space or needed to explore space that happens here,” said Baiju Shah, president and CEO of GCP Ohio also has critical national defense centers, a group of research laboratories, a range of colleges and universities with science and engineering programs and a statewide network of global aerospace businesses, the letter says. The state is home to more than 170 individual NASA suppliers and is the largest supplier to both Boeing and Airbus, Shah notes. The region also is home to a number of flagship aeronautic companies: Parker Hannifin, GE Aerospace and suppliers such as TransDigm Group Inc., Voss Industries and Howmet Aerospace, to name a few. Team NEO, Dolan said, is not just sending letters, but creating a larger plan for why Ohio is the best alternative to D.C. GCP is working with elected officials to show support while Team NEO is putting together a list of available sites for companies to locate and incentive programs available in the state, Dolan said. “We are talking to our higher ed partners and looking to the City of Cleveland and the county of Cuyahoga,” Dolan said. “This is the opportunity for Northeastern Ohio to speak with one coordinated voice to attract NASA headquarters here.” JobsOhio President and CEO J.P. Nauseef is optimistic that NASA Glenn is a viable option for a possible new HQ because the state has seen so much growth in the federal, defense, and aerospace industries and a surge in critical defense infrastructure growth. "There is a growing list of new-to-Ohio companies, like Joby Aviation, Anduril Industries, and Ursa Major, that supports the work NASA is doing,” Nauseef said. Regardless of if this happens or not, IMO at least Dolan is using TeamNEO correctly - proactively working with local officials, universities, and the region to find sites for the ancilliary companies that would want to be near NASA HQ. It gives me hope they'll start doing this more for other projects as well.
March 18Mar 18 20 minutes ago, Geowizical said: https://www.crainscleveland.com/politics-policy/ohio-wants-nasa-hq-move-nasa-glenn Ohio's biggest biz leaders join push to bring NASA HQ to Cleveland TL;DR: 26 business-related co-signers urged the White House and NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman “to relocate NASA Headquarters from the D.C. Beltway to the Buckeye State Greater Cleveland Partnership (GCP), JobsOhio, Team NEO, the Ohio Chamber of Commerce and organizations representing the state's biggest cities, including Columbus, Cincinnati, Sandusky, Canton and Dayton "Florida gets a lot of the publicity, but their facility, Kennedy Space Center, is principally for launches. It's not where the technologies that are going up in space or needed to explore space that happens here,” said Baiju Shah, president and CEO of GCP Ohio also has critical national defense centers, a group of research laboratories, a range of colleges and universities with science and engineering programs and a statewide network of global aerospace businesses, the letter says. The state is home to more than 170 individual NASA suppliers and is the largest supplier to both Boeing and Airbus, Shah notes. The region also is home to a number of flagship aeronautic companies: Parker Hannifin, GE Aerospace and suppliers such as TransDigm Group Inc., Voss Industries and Howmet Aerospace, to name a few. Team NEO, Dolan said, is not just sending letters, but creating a larger plan for why Ohio is the best alternative to D.C. GCP is working with elected officials to show support while Team NEO is putting together a list of available sites for companies to locate and incentive programs available in the state, Dolan said. “We are talking to our higher ed partners and looking to the City of Cleveland and the county of Cuyahoga,” Dolan said. “This is the opportunity for Northeastern Ohio to speak with one coordinated voice to attract NASA headquarters here.” JobsOhio President and CEO J.P. Nauseef is optimistic that NASA Glenn is a viable option for a possible new HQ because the state has seen so much growth in the federal, defense, and aerospace industries and a surge in critical defense infrastructure growth. "There is a growing list of new-to-Ohio companies, like Joby Aviation, Anduril Industries, and Ursa Major, that supports the work NASA is doing,” Nauseef said. Regardless of if this happens or not, IMO at least Dolan is using TeamNEO correctly - proactively working with local officials, universities, and the region to find sites for the ancilliary companies that would want to be near NASA HQ. It gives me hope they'll start doing this more for other projects as well. Tbh if we don't get NASA but continue this type of regional collaboration the sky is the limit for attracting future big name companies/organizations.
March 18Mar 18 I like that representatives from Cincinnati and Columbus are also pushing for this. It would be something great for the whole state, and could push a high speed rail along 71 into the forefront of important things to get done. With Cincinnati having GE Aerospace and Columbus recently getting Starlab’s George Washington Carver Science Park Terrestrial Lab, it isn’t super far out of the realm of possibilities and would be great if it happened.
March 18Mar 18 6 minutes ago, VintageLife said: I like that representatives from Cincinnati and Columbus are also pushing for this. It would be something great for the whole state, and could push a high speed rail along 71 into the forefront of important things to get done. With Cincinnati having GE Aerospace and Columbus recently getting Starlab’s George Washington Carver Science Park Terrestrial Lab, it isn’t super far out of the realm of possibilities and would be great if it happened. With Ohio having 3 cities with large regions that contains influential businesses and leaders collaboration like this could make the state extremely strong.
March 18Mar 18 14 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said: With Ohio having 3 cities with large regions that contains influential businesses and leaders collaboration like this could make the state extremely strong. 100%, people need to stop comparing what city is bigger or better and start trying to get collaboration between them. Ohio is one of the few states with 3 large cities and we have the advantage of not being a massive state, so those cities are a bit closer together. The fact they are connected by a highway, that could easily have high speed rail along it, makes it even better.
March 18Mar 18 2 hours ago, Geowizical said: https://www.crainscleveland.com/politics-policy/ohio-wants-nasa-hq-move-nasa-glenn Ohio's biggest biz leaders join push to bring NASA HQ to Cleveland TL;DR: 26 business-related co-signers urged the White House and NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman “to relocate NASA Headquarters from the D.C. Beltway to the Buckeye State Greater Cleveland Partnership (GCP), JobsOhio, Team NEO, the Ohio Chamber of Commerce and organizations representing the state's biggest cities, including Columbus, Cincinnati, Sandusky, Canton and Dayton "Florida gets a lot of the publicity, but their facility, Kennedy Space Center, is principally for launches. It's not where the technologies that are going up in space or needed to explore space that happens here,” said Baiju Shah, president and CEO of GCP Ohio also has critical national defense centers, a group of research laboratories, a range of colleges and universities with science and engineering programs and a statewide network of global aerospace businesses, the letter says. The state is home to more than 170 individual NASA suppliers and is the largest supplier to both Boeing and Airbus, Shah notes. The region also is home to a number of flagship aeronautic companies: Parker Hannifin, GE Aerospace and suppliers such as TransDigm Group Inc., Voss Industries and Howmet Aerospace, to name a few. Team NEO, Dolan said, is not just sending letters, but creating a larger plan for why Ohio is the best alternative to D.C. GCP is working with elected officials to show support while Team NEO is putting together a list of available sites for companies to locate and incentive programs available in the state, Dolan said. “We are talking to our higher ed partners and looking to the City of Cleveland and the county of Cuyahoga,” Dolan said. “This is the opportunity for Northeastern Ohio to speak with one coordinated voice to attract NASA headquarters here.” JobsOhio President and CEO J.P. Nauseef is optimistic that NASA Glenn is a viable option for a possible new HQ because the state has seen so much growth in the federal, defense, and aerospace industries and a surge in critical defense infrastructure growth. "There is a growing list of new-to-Ohio companies, like Joby Aviation, Anduril Industries, and Ursa Major, that supports the work NASA is doing,” Nauseef said. Regardless of if this happens or not, IMO at least Dolan is using TeamNEO correctly - proactively working with local officials, universities, and the region to find sites for the ancilliary companies that would want to be near NASA HQ. It gives me hope they'll start doing this more for other projects as well. Yes, l agree. The approach seems focused and professional. It does bode well for future endeavors. While l highly doubt this attempt will result in a NASA hq. ending up in NEO because when compared to other locations the hurdles are too high. What's more, l also doubt a relocation on any level will happen. I see the idea as just another in a long line of Trump speak which is mostly nonsense.
April 23Apr 23 NASA Relocation thread is closed. It starts at 35.30. Edited April 23Apr 23 by freethink .
April 24Apr 24 https://www.crainscleveland.com/politics-policy/state-and-local-leaders-continue-make-case-nasa-hq State and local leaders continue to push for NASA HQ
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