December 15, 20213 yr https://www.rcnky.com/articles/2021/12/14/newport-oks-bonds-residential-development-ovation-hotel Looks like the next phase of construction is moving forward with 124 room Homewood Suites and 18 residential units.
January 31, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, richNcincy said: Four cranes now! Yeah they installed the fourth on Thursday I believe.
January 31, 20223 yr Need more on the Ohio side now. Whatever happened to 180 Walnut at the Banks? That should be a tower crane when (if) construction begins. Hopefully we see tower cranes at the new Convention Center Hotel before years end. That's you 3CDC.
February 1, 20223 yr 22 hours ago, jvarney1 said: Need more on the Ohio side now. Whatever happened to 180 Walnut at the Banks? That should be a tower crane when (if) construction begins. Hopefully we see tower cranes at the new Convention Center Hotel before years end. That's you 3CDC. There is a Cincinnati.com article from June 2021 that if I remember correctly stated that 180 would start construction sometime later this year.
February 22, 20223 yr Ovation developer opens ‘experience center’ to show off $1 billion project Corporex, the master developer of the $1 billion Ovation development in Newport, has opened an “experience center” to give potential residents, tenants and businesses a deeper look at what’s coming along the riverfront. The experience center was built inside the parking garage below PromoWest Pavilion as a way to showcase what is coming to the development. Corporex also has a new name for the residences on the north side of Ky. Route 9, the Boardwalk Residences at Ovation. This portion of the development, the first portion of construction on this side of the development, will include three, four-story buildings with a total of 88 for-sale residential units. Those units will be available for purchase to a preferred buyers group beginning March 1. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/02/22/ovation-opens-experience-center.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 22, 20223 yr on the terrace above the four-story buildings and below the pitched-roof high-rises.. are those.. parking spaces...?
February 23, 20223 yr It is a cookie cutter design, with a stack of ugly cookies. The unfortunate thing is, it doesn't need much to be a big improvement.
February 23, 20223 yr 13 minutes ago, CincyIntheKnow said: It is a cookie cutter design I wouldn't even call it that because "cookie cutter" implies there would be lots of other developments that look just like this (and presumably their ubiquity implies they have been at least moderately successful). I've never seen anything quite like design this get built. To me, it looks like a young child's Minecraft model.
February 23, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, jwulsin said: I wouldn't even call it that because "cookie cutter" implies there would be lots of other developments that look just like this (and presumably their ubiquity implies they have been at least moderately successful). I've never seen anything quite like design this get built. To me, it looks like a young child's Minecraft model. I agree, the design is actually a bit unusual too me.
February 23, 20223 yr 45 minutes ago, jwulsin said: I wouldn't even call it that because "cookie cutter" implies there would be lots of other developments that look just like this (and presumably their ubiquity implies they have been at least moderately successful). I've never seen anything quite like design this get built. To me, it looks like a young child's Minecraft model. This was my reaction as well. Looks like something from a video game--and from a modder, not from a professional developer.
February 23, 20223 yr Where we could be getting, from the downtown view, peeks of Newport through some more imaginative massing... we get a wall.
February 23, 20223 yr 20 hours ago, ColDayMan said: Ovation developer opens ‘experience center’ to show off $1 billion project Corporex, the master developer of the $1 billion Ovation development in Newport, has opened an “experience center” to give potential residents, tenants and businesses a deeper look at what’s coming along the riverfront. The experience center was built inside the parking garage below PromoWest Pavilion as a way to showcase what is coming to the development. Corporex also has a new name for the residences on the north side of Ky. Route 9, the Boardwalk Residences at Ovation. This portion of the development, the first portion of construction on this side of the development, will include three, four-story buildings with a total of 88 for-sale residential units. Those units will be available for purchase to a preferred buyers group beginning March 1. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/02/22/ovation-opens-experience-center.html Can I ask why there is a beach in this picture? I don't see any towels or beach chairs, but it is definitely a beach, lol.
February 23, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, jwulsin said: I wouldn't even call it that because "cookie cutter" implies there would be lots of other developments that look just like this (and presumably their ubiquity implies they have been at least moderately successful). I've never seen anything quite like design this get built. To me, it looks like a young child's Minecraft model. Cookie cutter in that it is a series of the same building copied and pasted on site, not that it is commonly found elsewhere.
February 23, 20223 yr What is going to happen to the old apartment complex in front of Ovation? are they going to tear it down or does it still operate?
February 24, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said: What is going to happen to the old apartment complex in front of Ovation? are they going to tear it down or does it still operate? You mean to the south or the east? Both still there and operating.
February 24, 20223 yr The main question I have is how is this 1 billion dollarsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
February 24, 20223 yr Overall, I like it. Really depends on the finished product. I do have a question though, those "A" frame tops seem to be very tall and very large single rooms. observation decks, restaurants? It will surely give Newport a skyline and maybe will be seen during reds games.
March 3, 20223 yr ^It is very important to note that the tallest buildings appear to be phase 3 in that video. Do we really think Corporex will get that far? This will end up being a suburban style apartment complex.
March 3, 20223 yr I agree with what your saying, but i think the "suburban style apartment complex" might be a bit far if only because it will be mixed use and built on a big podium. I think if you just took the pointy-hat buildings out, the scale of the development might actually be better. I'm curious what the plan is for the remaining grassy lots left in the rendering. Edited March 3, 20223 yr by ucgrady
March 3, 20223 yr 22 minutes ago, ucgrady said: I agree with what your saying, but i think the "suburban style apartment complex" might be a bit far if only because it will be mixed use and built on a big podium. It's drive-to urbanism. There's no good connectivity with the existing grid. The residents and hotel guests will use the trail to get into NOTL but they won't be walking or biking into the core of the business district. Suburban development is trending towards New Urbanism design principals and this one seems to be doing the same. It's a city. Just do actual urbanism, not a watered down version of it that still prioritizes auto traffic to be successful.
March 3, 20223 yr I don't think any office or retail gets built. I paused the video where I think the project stops. I know they are building the hotel right now but the video included that with the office buildings.
March 3, 20223 yr 41 minutes ago, Dev said: It's drive-to urbanism. There's no good connectivity with the existing grid. The residents and hotel guests will use the trail to get into NOTL but they won't be walking or biking into the core of the business district. Suburban development is trending towards New Urbanism design principals and this one seems to be doing the same. It's a city. Just do actual urbanism, not a watered down version of it that still prioritizes auto traffic to be successful. First of all just want to point out I don't at all like the design for this. But I'm not sure why people are upset about the parking garage podium. It would be stupid to not prioritize the view of downtown from this location. That is the money maker. There is nothing to stop the residents and hotel guests from walking or biking to the business district in Newport or going over to Covington. A slight incline in the road isn't going to prevent people from doing that.
March 3, 20223 yr What will stop them though is a disconnect. People can sense boundaries, even when they're not explicit. This development essentially lives entirely a level or more above grade. That is a boundary, both physically and mentally. Hell, a couple steps is often more than enough to stop a person from being comfortable crossing that "boundary" if what's up those steps no longer feels like a continuation of where they are. Many public spaces have suffered over the years by raising the space literally only a handful of feet from grade. By lifting this a whole story or more above the street grid, it absolutely will stop people from comfortably moving from the rest of the area into this development, or vise versa. People will, sure, but it will only be intentional movement. There will be essentially zero people wandering into this development like there is when people walk around a true urban environment. I get the "why" of raising the development, but they could have bridged that elevation change better. The street being a car gutter will greatly diminish the comfort of moving from street level to podium level to the levee.
March 3, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, Cincy513 said: There is nothing to stop the residents and hotel guests from walking or biking to the business district in Newport or going over to Covington. A slight incline in the road isn't going to prevent people from doing that. You are missing the forest for the trees here. People select the option that's the most useful and convenient. So sure, there's nothing physically stopping them from walking or biking to Dixie Chili, but there's also nothing convenient about that routing so it will not be a commonly used route. They will drive there instead, or just not go at all. They are definitely not going to walk or bike to Covington with the current state of the 4th street bridge.
March 3, 20223 yr Due to being up at the height of the levee I actually think that connecting to Covington, Newport on the Levee and walking across to Cincinnati is something they will do due to how popular those pedestrian/bike trails are. But I also agree that people in this development will probably not walk to places like Dixie Chili or Monmouth street businesses ;though they will order from doordash/uber eats from those places so adding ton of units here is still a net positive compared to the vacant lot it has been for two decades.
March 3, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, Dev said: You are missing the forest for the trees here. People select the option that's the most useful and convenient. So sure, there's nothing physically stopping them from walking or biking to Dixie Chili, but there's also nothing convenient about that routing so it will not be a commonly used route. They will drive there instead, or just not go at all. They are definitely not going to walk or bike to Covington with the current state of the 4th street bridge. So then according to you no matter how ovation was designed the residents wouldn't go to places like Dixie Chili because there are plans to have food options on site. I'm not sure what you're complaining about. Did you really expect Corporex to spend a ton of money on this and only build housing? They were always going to include retail in this large of a development.
March 3, 20223 yr 19 minutes ago, ucgrady said: though they will order from doordash/uber eats from those places so adding ton of units here is still a net positive compared to the vacant lot it has been for two decades. Not in the long-term. DoorDash and Uber have yet to turn a profit so it's not a forgone conclusion that it's a sustainable business model. It's also a model that favors franchises since they take a large cut.
March 3, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Cincy513 said: So then according to you no matter how ovation was designed the residents wouldn't go to places like Dixie Chili because there are plans to have food options on site. I'm not sure what you're complaining about. Did you really expect Corporex to spend a ton of money on this and only build housing? They were always going to include retail in this large of a development. No. Most of the retail in Newport is local and distinct. It's really unlikely there is going to be a Cincinnati chili parlor in the Ovation site, so if a resident or worker is in the mood for some, they are just going to get in their car and drive to the closest Skyline. What an odd strawman. The other issue that you are missing is that it's a multi-directional relationship. The existing residential and office in Newport are not going to walk or bike into the Ovation site either. This means that long-term, there's less interest in investing in the pedestrian hostile area that is between Ovation and the downtown.
March 3, 20223 yr I guess I don't know what the argument here is, the project is ugly and was designed to make Bill Butler happy because he likes sloped roofs. It's not very pedestrian friendly but the density of housing is good compared to most developments around town and will bring more people to the urban basin rather than the suburbs. Newport, unlike Covington and even Cincinnati recently has mentioned a streetcar extension to tie into this very site, however many people in this development will continue to rely on their cars, just like people who live in most of the Cincinnati basin. The parking podium is ugly and ruins the feeling of 3rd street, however the alternative to building a podium of parking is having the first 2 levels of the building staring at the back of an earthen levee like the adjacent riverchase apartments (and would mean surface parking due to the water table and price of doing underground parking in this location). the podium could be hidden by ground level retail or housing, but the developer chose to focus on the "streetlife" on it's own internal boulevard up at levee level much like NOTL does. It's not great urbanism and it doesn't connect to the rest of the city well, though this corner of the city doesn't have a discernable street grid anyway due to decades of military presence, factories, flooding destroying things, subsequent army corp of engineers civil works, 'urban renewal' and public housing and subsequent gentrification destroying the whole area and replacing it with a 250' diameter traffic circle cluster. The development isn't perfect, the company doing the development is far from perfect, the owner is a bottom tier human and based on history it won't get built looking exactly like what we are currently seeing anyway. I'm still happy that 88 condos, 100s of apartments, a music venue run by Promowest, a hotel and an office building are being built in Newport and helping to densify the urban basin instead of another 'lifestyle center' in the burbs somewhere.
March 4, 20223 yr check out the top story of these affordable houses from russia. bee breeders affordable housing project.
March 4, 20223 yr At least that has storefront retail on the street. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 4, 20223 yr 52 minutes ago, RJohnson said: check out the top story of these affordable houses from russia. bee breeders affordable housing project. I can't tell if you're trying to make a satirical/rhetorical point, of if you're simply mistaken... but that's not from Russia. That photo is from a proposal to add a few floors on top of the RathausPassagen in Berlin. (website, streetview) That proposal got the 1st Prize in the Bee Breeder's Berlin Affordable Housing Competion. According to the website, the applicants are from Germany.
March 4, 20223 yr sorry about that mr. jwulsin. as I typed in russia i thought self... was it germany or russia. to lazy to go back and check it. I like what's happening in Newport with no satirical intention whatsoever. I have never seen buildings topped off like they are in the Newport project. I like them. And, I hope they are built as presented in the illustrations.
April 18, 20223 yr Progress photos at the Ovation. Office exterior almost wrapped up. Parking deck built up to levee wall height with elevator and stair towers being constructed for the first three condo towers. Still can't believe starting price will be 950k.
May 11, 20223 yr Corporex lands anchor tenant for Ovation office building By Tom Demeropolis – Senior staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier May 11, 2022 The speculative, 100,000-square-foot office building under construction at Ovation has an anchor tenant. MegaCorp Logistics, a transportation logistics firm specializing in full and less-than-truckload shipments throughout North America, has signed a long-term lease with Ovation master developer Corporex. MegaCorp Logistics will occupy two floors, or 40%, of the first office building in the 25-acre development at the confluence of the Ohio and Licking rivers in Newport. Bob Klare, president of MegaCorp, said this move to Ovation will double the size of its current operations in Covington. “Ovation and the city of Newport put us in a strategic location right in the heart of the region,” Klare said in a news release. “We actively sought an energetic and catalytic environment to help us attract and retain top talent and Ovation offers all of this and more to our employees.” MORE
May 11, 20223 yr MegaCorp sounds like a fictional villainous company from a movie or show. I really wish the office building at the Banks would start construction speculatively because it seems like there are tenants out there once the project is underway, vs the projects waiting to sign someone ahead of time are not moving forward.
May 11, 20223 yr Just now, ucgrady said: MegaCorp sounds like a fictional villainous company from a movie or show. I really wish the office building at the Banks would start construction speculatively because it seems like there are tenants out there once the project is underway, vs the projects waiting to sign someone ahead of time are not moving forward. Reminds me of 'E Corp' from the Mr. Robot series.
May 11, 20223 yr 16 minutes ago, tonyt3524 said: Reminds me of 'E Corp' from the Mr. Robot series. Run by President Business from The Lego Movie. Everything is Awesome.
May 11, 20223 yr 20 minutes ago, ucgrady said: MegaCorp sounds like a fictional villainous company from a movie or show. I really wish the office building at the Banks would start construction speculatively because it seems like there are tenants out there once the project is underway, vs the projects waiting to sign someone ahead of time are not moving forward. Based off of how quickly The Foundry filled up there is definitely demand out there for new space. Getting a lease negotiated / signed and THEN securing financing and then the actual construction puts potential tenants being physically in the space out at least 2 years.. which that is probably a hard sell.
May 11, 20223 yr With how many office workers there are now who are demanding remote work, a speculative office building is going to be even harder to swing.
May 12, 20223 yr 19 hours ago, wjh2 said: Based off of how quickly The Foundry filled up there is definitely demand out there for new space. Getting a lease negotiated / signed and THEN securing financing and then the actual construction puts potential tenants being physically in the space out at least 2 years.. which that is probably a hard sell. Would be really interesting to know how Corporex financed this project. They're probably one of the few local developers who could self-finance such a project, but woof that's a big risk. Lining up a bank to finance a spec office building these past few years has been nigh impossible.
May 24, 20223 yr Take a look inside Ovation as construction progresses toward late 2022 opening By Kenton Hornbeck May 23, 2022 Construction on the five-story office building at Ovation began last October, and Corporex plans to deliver the finishing touches at the end of 2022, said Tom Banta, chief real estate officer of Corporex during a recent tour of the construction site. “We just signed a lease with MegaCorp Logistics for the top two floors in the building,” Banta said. The addition of MegaCorp Logistics, a trucking logistics company, on May 11 to the Newport development lands a key anchor tenant for the 100,000 square foot office building. Last week, LINK nky was given the opportunity to tour the construction site. More
May 24, 20223 yr I'm glad Ovation is finally happening but not a fan of the images we've seen thus far. Here's hoping it meshes well and actually looks good in person.
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