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The state and city laws are about creating more housing, not providing new sources of income for people.

 

A property owner needs to recover the cost of construction in rent and in an increased resale value.  Penalizing them with increased property tax and/or tax on the rental income inevitably acts as a disincentive. 

 

Unfortunately these units typically won't be good sources of income or increased value for many homeowners because they are naïve real estate investors and will tend to get snookered by contractors and build something that doesn't maximize rent and resale. 

 

If a city really wants to incentivize construction of ADU's they need a dedicated department which guides homeowners through the process.  That would mean a relationship with architects, lenders, and contractors.  Otherwise they're going to have predatory ADU gangs knock on doors and swindle the hell out of people. 

 

 

 

Hm, I guess I don't know what you mean. Maybe some examples would help. Sure, some of the large office buildings are dead at night, as is the case in basically all CBDs, but most of the towers have ground floor retail or restaurants. How is the US Bank building or Wilshire Grand any different than Key Tower or the BP building in this regard?

 

Bunker Hill street level:

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Some of the buildings in Bunker Hill have corporate plazas that insulate them from the street a bit, perhaps this is what you're referring to?

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You do know that Bunker Hill is only one portion of DTLA, right? Much of it looks more like this:

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If a city really wants to incentivize construction of ADU's they need a dedicated department which guides homeowners through the process.  That would mean a relationship with architects, lenders, and contractors.  Otherwise they're going to have predatory ADU gangs knock on doors and swindle the hell out of people.

 

Lol, yeah that's not feasible in a city of 4 million people.

 

People will figure it out...evidently 2000 people did in the first year of the new law. And I think you're incorrect that this will be unfeasible for all but the rich. I worked with an immigrant family in the Valley on legalizing a unit they had been using in the back of their 800 sq foot ranch home. They had been using it for their adult daughter, but now that the extra unit is legal, they performed some very basic renovations, and now will be able to rent it to someone else. Even if they continue to use the unit for family, the presence of a legal accessory unit will enable this family to sell for quite a bit more than they bought the property for. Predatory ADU gangs? Come on, man.

Yeah DTLA gets much better from a fine-grained urbanism standpoint the closer you are to Broadway. The closer you get to the 110 the more it drifts into your typical Sun Belt CBD territory, but I've found that even in places like Houston and Atlanta the downtowns are surprisingly lively despite their fairly poor street interactions in many cases.

“To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”

Predatory ADU gangs? Come on, man.

 

Crappy product and crappy loan presented in a slick package.  A scam waiting to happen. 

 

 

Yeah, there are some dead zones in Bunker Hill for sure. The first link you posted is actually a bridge over a sunken street. The hill portion of Bunker Hill is definitely the worst offender, but all of it is pretty corporatey 9-5. It's not great, but it has actually come a long way in a relatively short time period. It's never going to be a dynamic 24/7 area, and I can see why visitors might find it a bit confusing.

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Wow, my brother lives 2 blocks from this building.  He and his girlfriend looked at renting in it two years ago.  

 

 

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He just sent me this video...looks like they're rescuing people off the top.  

 

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I'm in LA for meetings for a few days, so will try to take some shots.   TOD Los Angeles style.  30 story residential tower and retail at the La Cienega/Jefferson Metro stop.  

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A $2-billion condo-hotel complex bursting with gardens comes to Beverly Hills

 

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Greenery-laden condominium towers and lush botanical gardens would transform a key stretch of Beverly Hills under a new $2-billion plan drawn to redevelop long-vacant land next to the storied Beverly Hilton hotel, where celebrities gather for the annual Golden Globe Awards.

 

By putting its 340 residences in two towers as high as 32 stories, the complex called One Beverly Hills would have room for 8 acres of native plant gardens and water features woven with pathways, the bulk of which would be open to the public. There would also be a 10-story ultra-luxury hotel building.

 

It’s an entirely new concept for a highly sought-after expanse of dirt, last occupied by a glamorous department store, that has beguiled multiple investors to spend well over $1 billion combined since 2007 without setting a single brick in place.

 

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https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-06-28/prime-beverly-hills-spot-slated-for-a-2-billion-condo-hotel-complex

 

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Curving Steel Ribbons Start to Wrap Eric Owen Moss-Designed Office Tower

 

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Six months after we last checked in, the curving steel skeleton of the Eric Owen Moss-designed Wrapper office tower is starting to take shape next to Metro's La Cienega/Jefferson Station in Baldwin Hills.

The project, which replaced a parking lot at 5790 Jefferson Boulevard, will consist of a 17-story building containing 180,000 square feet of office space atop parking and ground-floor retail.

The signature element of the building's design is a "continuous system of curvilinear ribbons," wrapping the exterior, allowing for an open interior without columns. The development will offer floor plates up to 22,000 square feet, with some floors featuring double-height ceilings up to 24 feet. Renderings show that the tower would be capped with a penthouse and rooftop deck, sitting more than 200 feet above ground level.

Construction was previously anticipated to wrap up in 2021.

 

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https://urbanize.la/post/curving-steel-ribbons-start-wrap-eric-owen-moss-designed-office-tower

 

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Finished product:

 

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The New Century Plaza in Century City is coming along...

 

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Australian Developer Adds Hotel to Proposed DTLA Condo Tower

 

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The proposed development, slated to rise at the southeast corner of 11th and Hill Streets, Magnus Property Pte Ltd. of Singapore and Indonesian developer ASRI.

Initially planned as a fully residential development, revised plans submitted to the City of Los Angeles now call for a 43-story tower with 319 condominiums on its upper levels and a 160-room hotel located below. The developer is in discussions with several luxury hotel brands, according to a news release.

Koichi Takada Architects of Sydney is designing the tower, with MVE + Partners serving as the architect of record. Renderings show a building with a sculpted rooftop inspired by California's iconic redwood trees, as well as a green wall masking above-grade parking levels.

With an obelisk-shaped profile, the tower is one of the first proposed buildings to take advantage of the City of Los Angeles' 2014 decision to relax a requirement for rooftop helipads on high-rise buildings.

 

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https://urbanize.la/post/australian-developer-adds-hotel-proposed-dtla-condo-tower

 

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High-Rise Revamp Proposed for the Wilshire Courtyard Office Complex

 

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A year-and-a-half after purchase the Miracle Mile's landmark Wilshire Courtyard office complex, developer Onni Group has submitted an application to the City of Los Angeles to add a pair of high-rise buildings to the site.

 

Located at 5700 Wilshire Boulevard, the property is currently improved with a pair of six-story structures containing more than 1 million square feet of rentable space.  Onni, which reportedly paid $630 million for the 1980s complex, is seeking approvals to renovate the southern portions of both buildings while demolishing the Wilshire Boulevard frontage to make way for the development of two interconnected high-rise buildings containing 1.8 million square feet of offices and 117,000 square feet of ground-floor retail uses.  A full buildout of the plan would expand Wilshire Courtyard's occupiable square footage to 2.34 million.

 

Architecture firm Solomon Cordwell Buenz is designing the proposed development, which would include a 35-story, 565-foot-tall building fronting Curson Avenue to the west and a larger 41-story, 655-foot-tall building facing Masselin Avenue to the east.  New parking for over 2,600 vehicles would be built on seven levels at the foot of the towers, adding to a three-level, approximately 2,000-car garage that already exists beneath the property.

 

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https://urbanize.la/post/high-rise-revamp-proposed-wilshire-courtyard-office-complex

 

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Developer Revises Plans for Miracle Mile High-Rise

 

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Local real estate investment firm Walter N. Marks, Inc. has unveiled new details for a proposed apartment tower on the Miracle Mile.

 

The proposed development, called Mirabel, would replace a 1930s retail building at 5411 Wilshire Boulevard.  Plans call for the construction of a 42-story structure containing 348 residential units - including 29 reserved for low-income households and 9 reserved for moderate-income households - above 14,635 square feet of ground-floor retail space and parking for 477 vehicles.

 

Keating Architecture is designing the tower which is shown with a glass exterior and a curvilinear form.  The 521-foot tall building would be capped by a rooftop amenity deck, with addition common open space provided above its parking podium.

 

More below:

https://urbanize.la/post/developer-revises-plans-miracle-mile-high-rise

 

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Apartment Tower Begins to Rise Next to Figat7th

 

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One year after breaking ground, a large apartment tower is starting to rise next to the Figat7th shopping mall in Downtown Los Angeles.

 

The project, which is being developed by Figat7th landlord Brookfield, will occupy a long-empty lot at 960 W. 7th Street.  Approved plans call for a slender glass-and-steel tower containing 784 apartments - including studio, one-, two-, and three-bedroom units - above an 831-car garage.

 

Designed by Marmol Radziner and LARGE Architecture, the tower will rise 56 stories in height from its main entrance at Figat7th's upper level.  When including above-grade parking levels fronting 8th Street, the tower will stand 64 stories - or roughly 695 feet above ground level.

 

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https://urbanize.la/post/apartment-tower-begins-rise-next-figat7th

 

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On 2/12/2020 at 5:43 PM, Cleburger said:

I'm in LA for meetings for a few days, so will try to take some shots.   TOD Los Angeles style.  30 story residential tower and retail at the La Cienega/Jefferson Metro stop.  

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this right here. i saw many massive apt complexes like this one going up in mid city culver along the expo line. it was very impressive to see that.

 

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Fresh Renderings for 56-Story DTLA Apartment Tower

 

At its meeting on February 13, the Los Angeles City Planning Commission is scheduled to review a proposal to build a high-rise apartment tower adjacent to a new subway station at 2nd Street and Broadway.

 

The project, which is being developed by Tribune Real Estate Holdings, calls for the construction of 56-story building featuring 680 apartments - including 45 which would be reserved as "workforce" housing - with 10,000 square feet of ground-floor retail space and a new plaza flanking the Metro station.

 

Parking for the project would be provided in an adjacent garage which is also owned by Tribune.

 

Solomon Cordwell Buenz is designing the slim glass-and-steel building, which would rise to a sculpted rooftop standing nearly 616 feet in height.  A series of setbacks and insets would create terraces and amenities for residents, highlighted by a large pool deck.

 

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https://urbanize.la/post/fresh-renderings-56-story-dtla-apartment-tower

 

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L.A. City Council Signs Off on 56-Story DTLA Tower

 

At its meeting on August 18, the Los Angeles City Council vted 14-0 to certify a final environmental impact report and approve entitlements for a proposed mixed-use high-rise building near the Civic Center.

 

Tribune Real Estate Holdings, a Chicago-based developer which was spun off from the former owner of the Los Angeles Times, can now move forward with plans to build a 56-story apartment tower above the under-construction Historic Broadway subway station.  The project would include 680 residential units - including 45 which would be set aside as deed-restricted workforce housing - and 10,000 square feet of ground-floor retail.

 

Due to the underground transit infrastructure, no on-site parking is planned within the development.  Instead, parking accommodations are to be located in an adjoining garage which is also owned by Tribune.

 

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https://urbanize.la/post/la-city-council-signs-56-story-dtla-tower

 

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nothing too special, but all urban-ish:

 

16 developments set to sprout along the Crenshaw Line, mapped

Development is simmering along the rail line, which is slated to open next year

By Bianca Barragan  Updated May 6, 2020, 5:15pm PDT

 

more:

https://la.curbed.com/maps/crenshaw-line-development-map-metro-inglewood

 

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The Grand - U/C

 

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boy that is really some project -- looking good.

Indeed.

 

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Finally: L.A. City Planning Commission approves 70-story DTLA tower

 

After multiple hearings and delays over the past year, the Los Angeles City Planning Commission has finally granted approval to a skyline-altering Downtown tower from Miami-based developer Crescent Heights.

 

The project, which would replace a stretch of small commercial buildings at the northwest corner of 11th and Olive Streets, calls for the construction of a 70-story structure 794 studio, one-, two-, and three-bedroom apartments above 12,504 square feet of ground-floor retail space and an 891-car garage.  The proposed tower would sit atop a nine-story parking podium, wrapped by housing and other habitable spaces, and six levels of basement parking.

 

ODA designed the project, which incorporates features common to Mid-Century Modern homes such as floor-to-ceiling windows and cantilevered balconies.  Numerous common amenities are placed throughout the building, including above its podium and roof level, and in spaces carved into the side of the tower.  A pedestrian plaza is also proposed at the intersection of 11th and Olive Streets.

 

Planned to rise 810 feet in height, the 1045 Olive development would rank as the fourth tallest structure in Los Angeles if built today.

 

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https://urbanize.city/la/post/finally-la-city-planning-commission-approves-70-story-dtla-tower

 

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hot off the press from two days ago — i took a pic of frank gehry’s the grand in dtla. it’s still u/c, but as you can see it’s almost done. very grand indeed!

 

 

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18 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

hot off the press from two days ago — i took a pic of frank gehry’s the grand in dtla. it’s still u/c, but as you can see it’s almost done. very grand indeed!

 

 

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Looks like something I could have drawn in 3rd grade. It looks very mid to late 80's to me.

The renderings were far better than the actual product.  And that's me being nice.

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haha yeah that is what a billion dollars worth of gehry looks like!

 

in his defense, not for the grand, but i read that he did beg them to use stone for the disney concert hall across the street, but oh no they saw bilbao and wanted those iconic stainless steel ribbons. so maybe the clients had a say in the grand too? i dk, but anyway it looks quite massive. they say 400 lux apts, a few affordable toss ins, an equinox hotel and a movie theater, plus shops and restaurants.

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ktla just announced the hotel at the grand will be a hilton conrad.

On 8/20/2021 at 4:46 PM, mrnyc said:

haha yeah that is what a billion dollars worth of gehry looks like!

 

in his defense, not for the grand, but i read that he did beg them to use stone for the disney concert hall across the street, but oh no they saw bilbao and wanted those iconic stainless steel ribbons. so maybe the clients had a say in the grand too? i dk, but anyway it looks quite massive. they say 400 lux apts, a few affordable toss ins, an equinox hotel and a movie theater, plus shops and restaurants.

Given Gehry's history with using materials he hasn't made prominent use of (looking at you brick panels on the Vontz Center which weep water directly into the windows) I'm not so sure I'd want him trying his hand at this large amount of stone.

 

That said, I'd also never hire him if I was some theoretical rich developer. Dude has no idea what he's doing and frankly (lol pun) I'm really hoping that when he kicks the bucket so does his firm so we have one less "crumpled object plopped into a site with zero contextual analysis" starchitect out there.

9 minutes ago, jmicha said:

Given Gehry's history with using materials he hasn't made prominent use of (looking at you brick panels on the Vontz Center which weep water directly into the windows) I'm not so sure I'd want him trying his hand at this large amount of stone.

 

That said, I'd also never hire him if I was some theoretical rich developer. Dude has no idea what he's doing and frankly (lol pun) I'm really hoping that when he kicks the bucket so does his firm so we have one less "crumpled object plopped into a site with zero contextual analysis" starchitect out there.

 

 

wait, how do you really feel lol?!

 

i am not big fan either, but i would have been over the moon if the cleveland progressive tower got built. that was early and very avant-garde gehry and also it would have been filled and surrounded by all the best dia foundation artists like judd, flavin and the gang. i always thought it a worse loss than ameritrust.

 

and speaking of the guy, we stayed near the gehry venice beach norton house (1984), so of course i took a few pics.

 

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Lol, I'm an avid hater...but with that said, I DO agree that pre-Bilbao Gehry had some cool conceptual ideas. And even after, there are a handful of successful projects in my mind. Like I'm all for 8 Spruce Street. I think it added nice height and his signature facade treatment works really well at creating a dynamic addition to the Lower Manhattan skyline.

 

But that's it haha.

I don't even like 8 Spruce Street.  Nor that house.  

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On 8/20/2021 at 11:17 AM, mrnyc said:

hot off the press from two days ago — i took a pic of frank gehry’s the grand in dtla. it’s still u/c, but as you can see it’s almost done. very grand indeed!

 

 

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I drive by this quite often. It’s awful. It is such a jumbled mess and it looks cheap. 

Oof. 

 

I really just need these starchitects to formulate a basic understanding of contextual design. 

New angles of the proposed residential high-rise at 8th and Hope

 

After more than two years of quiet, Mitsui Fudosan America (MFA) is changing up its plans for its second residential high-rise in Downtown Los Angeles.

 

The proposed development, first submitted to the Planning Department in 2017, would rise from a property bounded by 8th Street, Hope Street, and Grand Avenue, replacing a garage and a surface parking lot.  At the time, plans called more than 40-story building featuring at least 547 residential units above 7,499 square feet of ground-floor retail space and a nearly 600-car garage. 

 

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https://urbanize.city/la/post/downtown-8th-hope-mitsui-fudosan

 

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Here comes the Parking Meter!

Like a sunset — developers propose a Hollywood office tower with a bold sculptural design

 

Developers will file an application with the city of Los Angeles on Thursday to build what they hope will be a visually stunning, $500-million high-rise on Sunset Boulevard in the heart of Hollywood called the Star.

 

The proposed 22-story glass-skinned office tower would create its own bubble-like world with garden levels open to the elements on the 10th and 17th floors and an enclosed landscaped rooftop with a restaurant, all served by a funicular tram traveling up and down the sides of the tower.

 

It’s a creation of MAD Architects, a Chinese architecture firm known for daring designs such as the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art, under construction near the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, which evokes director George Lucas’ “Star Wars” fantasy empire.

 

Architect Ma Yansong called the curvy shape of the building “very sculptural,” reminiscent of a sunrise “or a sunset,” he said with a laugh. “It’s on Sunset Boulevard.”

 

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https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-09-16/hollywood-high-rise-office-with-rooftop-restaurant-planned

 

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Can't wait to see what nickname falls on this one!  :) 

On 9/12/2021 at 1:15 AM, jeremyck01 said:


I drive by this quite often. It’s awful. It is such a jumbled mess and it looks cheap. 

 

 

i was just thinking we have our own version in ny.

its in wash hts and i go by it pretty often for work.

at least its a far cheaper chinese developer version lol.

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On 9/19/2021 at 10:13 AM, Cleburger said:

Can't wait to see what nickname falls on this one!  :) 

 

It looks like a device that is stored in the back of a night stand drawer!  IJS.

 

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Brookfield wants to add a 34-story residential tower to DTLA's Bank of America Plaza

 

Eight years after acquiring much of the Downtown Los Angeles skyline through its purchase of MPG Office Trust, Brookfield is capitalizing on some of the unused development rights of a landmark property on Bunker Hill.

 

Earlier this month, the New York-based real estate investment firm filed an application with the Department of City Planning to add a residential high-rise to Bank of America Plaza, a 55-story office tower located at 333 S. Hope Street. The project, named the Residences at 333 South Hope Street, would replace a portion of the building's plaza and parking structure with a new 34-story edifice featuring 366 studio, one-, and two-bedroom dwellings with a 425-square-foot cafe located at street level.

 

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https://urbanize.city/la/post/brookfield-wants-add-34-story-residential-tower-dtlas-bank-america-plaza

 

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"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

that's groovy baby -- a neo-residential capitol records type building downtown.

Looks like the architect is a big fan of half the album cover of Yankee Hotel Foxtrot...

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