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Kroger opens massive store in Anderson

 

The Kroger Co. opened its largest area store today, and its most diverse, with a Starbucks, a jewelry store, a cosmetics counter and furniture.

 

The 104,000-square-foot store anchors the former Beechmont Mall -- now Anderson Towne Center -- in Anderson Township. It replaces a 69,000-square-foot store across the street, which closed yesterday.

 

 

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columbus has one scheduled to open on sunday. they named it Kroger Marketplace.

Doesnt that one have a monorail or was that just a rumor?

^ No.

 

Yay for a 100,000 SF 1-story building. You know, the Carew has only 7-times as much SF. Yay for a fucking huge footprint that won't last more than 20 years. And yay for someone's grandma who will go in there for a quart of milk and will not be seen until 2022.

Actually I think Jungle Jims do. I seen the rail on the outside but I never went inside.

HAHAHA the grandma will be on the milk carton that she had just purchased.

Mono means One, and Rail means Rail...and that concludes our extensive three week course. Go Simpsons! Sorry couldnt resist. Jungle Jim got that stupid thing from PKI it would seem.

Hey guys... I'm new to the forums. I grew up in Markley Farms, off Markley Road in Anderson, years and years ago. I'd love to know how this "Anderson Town Center" looks compared to Beechmont Mall - I have many fond memories of Beechmont Mall and Beechmont Avenue. That Kroger (the one they closed) was the grocery store we went to, and I loved getting pizza at Uno's in the mall. Does anyone have any photos or links to photos?

^ I, for one, haven't been over there in months and I have no idea what it looks like. I rarely go that far east.

  • 3 months later...

From the 2/17/05 Enquirer:

 

 

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Sharon Disher, standing in front of a not-very-attractive Five Mile Road, serves on committees working to improve Anderson Township's appearance. The former Beechmont Mall in the background is being redeveloped.  The Enquirer/Ernest Coleman

 

Anderson Twp. waiting for site to be beautiful

By Steve Kemme

Enquirer staff writer

 

ANDERSON TWP. - Rusting chain-link fences, ugly guardrails and bulky strands of above-ground utility lines that stretch to the horizon.

 

This assault on the eyes doesn't mesh with the transformation that's under way at the former Beechmont Mall.

 

 

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050217/NEWS01/502170336/1077

 

"They're doing a good job keeping this area up. We moved from Clifton, and it's a lot nicer here. It's really reassuring and you feel safe."

Luigi Lavalle, Anderson Township"

 

-Yes, because Clifton is the bastion of crime.  Duurr yuppies and their mochas!

 

"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

Well, there is a lot of property crime in Clifton.  I don't know the per capita numbers between Clifton and Anderson, but I'm sure Clifton's worse..but I don't see where the line, "it's a lot nicer here" comes from...I can think of very few measures of "nice" that would make that statement true...

Anderson Twp. waiting for site to be beautiful
That area is disgusting! all the traffic fast food BAAAH! You couldn't pay me to live around there.

I just checked a few numbers to compare crime in Clifton to crime in Anderson Township:

 

Anderson

Pop:          43,857

Offenses:     1,351

   Property:  1,013

   Violent:       338

 

Clifton

Pop:            8,546

Offenses:     1,194

   Property:     955

   Violent:       239

 

So Anderson has 31 crimes per 1,000 residents, Clifton has 140...Clifton has 5 times the property crimes per capita as Anderson has, and 3.6 times the violent crimes.

 

A couple caveats - I just did the property/violent split myself, and might not reflect official designations.  Burglary I counted as property, robbery as violent, that sort of thing.

 

A more germane caveat - I'm sure a lot of the crimes reported in Clifton victimized non-residents, and I would bet the non-resident to resident victim proportion in Clifton is far higher than that in Anderson.  That would bring the effective "population" of Clifton up and even out these numbers.  But I have no way of beginning to guess at how big this effect is.  Is the pool of Cliftonites doubled?  Tripled?  I have no way of knowing...

 

Regardless, I do think it's safe to say that Anderson is significantly safer than Clifton.  And that being said, I agree 100% with Mr. Coffee:

BAAAH! You couldn't pay me to live around there.

 

Links:

Anderson Crimes

Anderson Population

Clifton Crimes

Clifton Population

Yes, because Clifton is the bastion of crime.  Duurr yuppies and their mochas!

 

Was meant to be a pseudo-mocking of Clifton and "inner-city crime image."  It wasn't meant to say that Clifton is anymore safer than Anderson.  Clifton is not a crime-filled area, even though it may be more "dangerous" than Anderson.

"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

Indeed...I agree, the perception is nuts - I lived there for two years, never had a problem with crime, loved the area...I'm guess I'm just too hyper-anal at times!

There's a reason Anderson Twp. is safer--it's boring...and nothing much happens there.

 

Sorry, it had to be said.  :D

 

Part of the problem with the way things are is that, that damn site by UC hasn't been spruced up in the least and wont until the Marge Schott estate agrees to it.  When we're talking about crime issues then we're really talking a multi-street grid around a couple of sites in that area "not including my hood of Avondale".

 

In 5 years when that site is spruced up hopefully we wont have the same issues and the feed into that neighborhood especially with Short Vine so close will be nice meaning attractive and still retaining that urban flavor but with what's taking place on Clifton for example than that locally owned urban flavor will be in jeopardy.

  • 3 months later...

From the 5/30/05 Enquirer:

 

 

PHOTO: A clock tower, restaurants, and plenty of available retail space grace the Anderson Towne Center, on the site of Beechmont Mall. Township officials expect more tenants soon.  The Enquirer/Tony Jones

 

Shopping center's retail sites vacant

Anderson officials say Towne Center will fill up

By Steve Kemme

Enquirer staff writer

 

ANDERSON TWP. - Many restaurants have opened or are close to opening in the new Anderson Towne Center, but there's still a lot of empty retail space.

 

Almost all the restaurant spaces, which are concentrated in the front part of the former Beechmont Mall site on Beechmont Avenue, have signed lease agreements, said Steve Sievers, Anderson Township's director of development services.

 

 

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I feel they need a Family Dollar store there!  :evil:

^ Maybe they could take one of the 5 dollar stores in Cincinnati Mills. ;)

  • 1 month later...

Haven't heard much about this lately.  From the 7/25/05 Enquirer:

 

 

Lake leapfrogs ahead in project

Soil removed from site needed for Anderson bus shelter

By Steve Kemme

Enquirer staff writer

 

ANDERSON TWP. - The excavation for the new lake on Anderson Township's property north of the Anderson Towne Center has started earlier than planned.

 

The reason for bumping up the project by four to six months is that the dirt from the lake excavation is needed for the nearby site of the planned Metro bus park-and-ride shelter.

 

The dirt that had been moved to the park-and-ride's hillside site was too wet and unstable for construction of the shelter, said Richard Shelley, Anderson Township's highway superintendent.

 

 

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  • 4 weeks later...

Anyone have any photos or the website for this? I would love to see them.

I haven't seen one, nor could I find one when I just looked.

  • 6 months later...

From the 2/17/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Anderson plans TIF spending

Some of $122M to go for roads, lake, arts center

BY STEVE KEMME | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

ANDERSON TWP. - Trustees say that shoppers, bus riders, arts lovers and preservationists all would benefit from a plan the township has developed for spending tens of millions of tax dollars in the next 17 years.

 

Public safety and transportation also would be major beneficiaries if the plan is fully realized.

 

Officials here estimate that by 2023, the township will have received as much as $122 million in revenue from tax increment financing, an economic development tool used throughout Ohio and in all but a few states.

 

 

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That link to Jungle Jims said they're opening up another location in Oakley. That's a weird location for them to choose considering there's already about 5 giant grocery stores within a few miles.  I'm sure Kroger sees Anderson as a great investment since it has so many high income neighborhoods. I work in Rookwood and they sent us a packet saying that in an attempt to get citizens of Anderson to shop at our stores they sent all of the residents a free subscription to Cincinnati magazine as a gift, so it's no surprise to me that Kroger would invest in Anderson like that.  Meanwhile the Kroger in Price Hill, Clifton etc are deteriorating. A LOT of people in Clifton shop at Hyde Park Kroger because it's safer, clearner,whiter, and whatever else but I refuse to waste my gas going all the way up there, unless it's after I get off work, it's just not worth it.

Where is the Kroger in Clifton?  Are you referring to the one in Coreyville?  ...And Anderson Township doesn't have neighborhoods, it has subdivisions. ;)

Many refer to the general area around UC with the generic "Clifton".  It's a localism.

Where is the Kroger in Clifton?  Are you referring to the one in Coreyville?  ...And Anderson Township doesn't have neighborhoods, it has subdivisions. ;)

Yeah, I guess it's technically in Corryville.

^^Just like all of Cincinnati is OTR to suburbanites. LOL, but I'm not totally kidding.

I just checked a few numbers to compare crime in Clifton to crime in Anderson Township:

 

Anderson

Pop:          43,857

Offenses:     1,351

   Property:  1,013

   Violent:       338

 

Clifton

Pop:            8,546

Offenses:     1,194

   Property:     955

   Violent:       239

 

So Anderson has 31 crimes per 1,000 residents, Clifton has 140...Clifton has 5 times the property crimes per capita as Anderson has, and 3.6 times the violent crimes.

 

A couple caveats - I just did the property/violent split myself, and might not reflect official designations.  Burglary I counted as property, robbery as violent, that sort of thing.

 

A more germane caveat - I'm sure a lot of the crimes reported in Clifton victimized non-residents, and I would bet the non-resident to resident victim proportion in Clifton is far higher than that in Anderson.  That would bring the effective "population" of Clifton up and even out these numbers.  But I have no way of beginning to guess at how big this effect is.  Is the pool of Cliftonites doubled?  Tripled?  I have no way of knowing...

 

Regardless, I do think it's safe to say that Anderson is significantly safer than Clifton.  And that being said, I agree 100% with Mr. Coffee:

BAAAH! You couldn't pay me to live around there.

 

Links:

Anderson Crimes

Anderson Population

Clifton Crimes

Clifton Population

I'd have to agree that Clifton is terrible and unlivable. All of it. I mean just take a look at this street, obviously it's going downhill in more ways than one!  I'm moving to Anderson where it's nice

I have a professor who lives on Glenmary (I think thats it). In the 8 years she has been there, she has had break-ins or attemps every year. Two years ago they torn the whole house apart inside and out stealing all her jewelery and foreign money collections (shes a geography prof). This year criminals broke a window on the side of their house while the daughter was home alone upstairs. The neighbor heard and called the police, meanwhile the crooks leave and the police surround the home, barging throught the front door. Her daughter came downstairs and looked out the front door, only to have one of Cincinnati's finest pointing a gun at her. There are definitely problems, even in the nicer areas.

^ I think Glenmary is in Avondale, but I could be mistaken.

She told me she lived in Clifton...and she is a geographer, so I hope she knows. She lives close to Ludlow she said.

I have a professor who lives on Glenmary (I think thats it). In the 8 years she has been there, she has had break-ins or attemps every year. Two years ago they torn the whole house apart inside and out stealing all her jewelery and foreign money collections (shes a geography prof). This year criminals broke a window on the side of their house while the daughter was home alone upstairs. The neighbor heard and called the police, meanwhile the crooks leave and the police surround the home, barging throught the front door. Her daughter came downstairs and looked out the front door, only to have one of Cincinnati's finest pointing a gun at her. There are definitely problems, even in the nicer areas.

 

"You wanna hide your money?! Put in in your books! ...'cus n***az don't read! Books are like kryptonite to a n***a  -Chris Rock

 

Seriously though, is moving all the way out to Anderson worth it if you work near Clifton? That just doesn't make sense to me. 

 

 

She works at Miami.

 

Thats not my point anyhow. I guess I'm saying that you can't say a neighborhoods safe just by looking at it. Crime needs to go down or the "good" residents will be lost.

I know you can't tell just by looking at it but if it's a really nice neighborhood, it definitely gives people more of a reason to maintain a low crime rate. Doesn't that area of clifton have a block watch? I don't know how affective those are though

  • 2 months later...

From the 5/2/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Mixed-use project set for 2008

Anderson Twp. to get condominiums, amphitheater

BY JEFF MCKINNEY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

ANDERSON TOWNSHIP - Construction on a $40.5 million project with up to 60 condominiums, a 14-screen movie theater and a 325-plus seat outdoor amphitheater is expected to begin this fall.

 

Plans call for the Anderson Towne Place residential and retail development to be built off Five Mile Road behind Anderson Towne Center.

 

 

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  • 1 month later...

From the 6/7/06 Forest Hills Journal:

 

 

Ground broken for Anderson Center

BY LIZ CAREY | COMMUNITY PRESS STAFF WRITER

 

ANDERSON TWP. -- With casual tosses of dirt, construction on the new heart of Anderson Township began on Monday, June 5.

 

Anderson Township officials celebrated the official groundbreaking for the Anderson Center and Anderson Lake, with the traditional digging of dirt.

 

But the center, which will be home to Anderson arts, emergency training and government, is far from traditional.

 

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  • 1 month later...

From the 7/12/06 Forest Hills Journal:

 

 

Amphitheater plans dropped

BY LIZ CAREY | COMMUNITY PRESS STAFF WRITER

 

ANDERSON TWP. -- The Anderson Township Board of Zoning Appeals approved the development of condos and a movie theater, without the planned amphitheater.

 

The board approved a height variance for the building, which exceeds the 45-foot maximum height limit.

 

While the vote was only a straw vote, board President Jean Peter said, the board was expected to approve a final vote when the developer returned with final plans for the development.

 

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any renderings of this project?

Sounds like a typical suburban melay.

  • 4 weeks later...
Anderson Station, a Metro bus park-and-ride station south of the lake, opened this summer.

Oh no....a metro stop!!!  Surely this signifies the downfall of Anderson Twp as we know it.  Why would anyone place a social deteriorator such as this in their community (see Legacy Place, and the exclusionary/racist positions of Green Twp officials).

 

Mall transformation getting noticed

BY STEVE KEMME | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

ANDERSON TWP. - The many projects Anderson Township has undertaken to transform a closed shopping mall and adjacent vacant land into a vibrant "town square" are attracting attention from near and far - as near as Indianapolis and as far away as Russia.

 

On July 28, 25 government and civic leaders from Indianapolis visited Anderson in search of ideas for how to revive a deteriorating shopping mall in the northwestern part of the city.

 

 

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So...in other words:

 

The Russian contingent was coming anyway and the only reason they're going to see the Anderson development is because a couple of people on the visitors council used their influence to steer them that way.

 

Yes, that's a glowing endorsement.  Way to bury that in the 8th paragraph.

 

  • 2 weeks later...

I bet you all were just aching to read about the Russians' visit....

 

 

PHOTO: Russian visitor Svetlana Nekrasova, left, interpreter Alexander Etlin, Anderson Township resident Al Mink and visitor Galina Khramova talk about development in the Anderson Township area. Visitors from the Russian city of Maikop toured the community and learned about local industry.  FORREST SELLERS/COMMUNITY PRESS STAFF

 

Anderson welcomes Russian travelers

BY FORREST SELLERS | COMMUNITY PRESS STAFF WRITER

 

ANDERSON TWP. -- Visitors from Maikop, Russia, will take a little bit of the Tristate back home.

 

The Maikop visitors, which included government officials, a school instructor, banker and farmer, went to the Anderson Towne Center Monday, Aug. 14.

 

"This (trip will provide an opportunity) to see how regional and local development is done and then use these principles in their own country," said Linda Appleby, interim co-chair of the Global Center of Greater Cincinnati Board of Directors.

 

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

Anderson faces the peril of public art

Town Square adornment pondered

BY STEVE KEMME | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

September 5, 2006

 

ANDERSON TWP. - Now that construction of Anderson Township's $21.1 million "town square" is well under way, township officials have begun thinking about potentially the most controversial part of the project: outdoor public art.

 

"We don't want to reduce art to the lowest common denominator," township Administrator Henry Dolive said. "But you can only push the public so far."

 

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

From the 9/13/06 Forest Hills Journal:

 

 

MICHAEL G'S CLOSED

 

ANDERSON TWP. - Another restaurant in the Anderson Towne Center has closed.

 

Michael G's, an upscale eatery in the towne center, has closed, said Anderson Township Assistant Administrator Suzanne Parker. No indication was given as to why the restaurant closed.

 

Victory Investments Inc. could not be reached for comment.

 

http://news.communitypress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060913/NEWS01/609130473/1058/Local

 

From the 9/20/06 Forest Hills Journal:

 

 

Another closing prompts concerns

BY LIZ CAREY | COMMUNITY PRESS STAFF WRITER

 

ANDERSON TWP. --After the announcement that another tenant has closed at the Anderson Towne Center, some tenants are wondering what the mall's prospects are.

 

"Two weeks ago, there was a sign on the door that said 'Closed for renovation - open after Labor Day' or something," said Dave Schutte, owner of Furniture Solutions, of Michael G's closing. "They never reopened. ... They'd been there less than three months."

 

 

http://news.communitypress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060920/NEWS01/609200471/1058/Local

 

  • 1 month later...

From the 10/18/06 Forest Hills Journal:

 

 

Construction moving along on Anderson Center, Five Mile Trail

BY LIZ CAREY | COMMUNITY PRESS STAFF WRITER

 

ANDERSON TWP. -- Construction projects in Anderson Township are wrapping up for the season, and the biggest of them could be a bit ahead of schedule.

 

"The biggest thing that has happened (recently) has been the installation of the retaining wall -- just below the Anderson Station, that wraps around behind the station and will allow access from the Anderson Station to Anderson Center," Public Works Director Richard Shelley said. "Within a month we should see some steel go into place (at Anderson Center). It's our goal to be under roof by winter."

 

 

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