Excellent point.

 

Not really.  A large percentage of people don't vote.

 

Voter turnout:

 

2008*    56.8% 

 

2004      55.3

 

2000      51.3 

 

1996      49.1 

 

 

Excellent point.

 

Not really. A large percentage of people don't vote.

 

Voter turnout:

 

2008* 56.8%

 

2004 55.3

 

2000 51.3

 

1996 49.1

 

 

Are you implying the % that don't vote are more skewed towards the 700 wlw mindset than not? Not sure if I agree with that.

The "Nation's Station" is a moniker that stems from when they broadacsted at 500,000 wats

Do you ever listen to 101.1 the WIZ? It's very diverse as well, guess we need a thread about how much they suck too.

 

The reason so many people on this board, including me, dislike 700 WLW is because of their anti-city/anti-Cincinnati skew.  They stop at nothing to bash the city, portray it as crime ridden, generalize our minority populations and stereotype them.

 

I don't care if you're a conservative or liberal, the things they do on that station are for shock value and come at the expense of the city we all love.  That is why 700 WLW sucks.

They are a shell of what they once were!    Their negativity is what tuned me off and I KNOW I am not the only one.

 

Kenwood can keep em and their is nothing that gives me more pleasure than knowing those clowns have to stare at that stalled Kenwood Towne Center EVERYDAY, while work continues in mass downtown. (Even though I am well aware of the Ports of Cincy's involvement)

 

What comes around, goes around!!

Do you ever listen to 101.1 the WIZ? It's very diverse as well, guess we need a thread about how much they suck too.

 

The reason so many people on this board, including me, dislike 700 WLW is because of their anti-city/anti-Cincinnati skew. They stop at nothing to bash the city, portray it as crime ridden, generalize our minority populations and stereotype them.

 

I don't care if you're a conservative or liberal, the things they do on that station are for shock value and come at the expense of the city we all love. That is why 700 WLW sucks.

 

What you have to realize though is that even without WLW, that is the view many still have of Cincinnati. I know that is a view belonging mostly to the "suburban, white male," but it is a common view of Cincinnati and those are the kinds of peoples who's opinions you want to change...bring them downtown...get them to spend money...stimulate the city's economy and continue to make Cincinnati a better place for all. Cincinnati has made great strides over the past decade and is continuing at great pace, but there are still negative views out there. Those negative views need to be changed, and honestly while I hear a lot of negative views of downtown on WLW, I don't really hear anyone intelligent calling in to try and voice an opinion in the other direction.

 

It be nice if the next time Cunningham, McConnel or Sloan discuss streetcars if someone knowledgeable of the pro-streetcar movement could call in and clearly explain the benefits. Honestly, I think if the person who runs www.cincystreetcar.org wrote to 700 WLW and mentioned the site he runs, he may be able to be a guest on one of the shows. I could definitely see it happening on Sloan or McConnel's show.

 

They're not all "anti-Cincinnati" by the way. I listen to Eddie and Tracy quite often, they're constantly promoting downtown restaurants, bars and activities. Not just in advertising plugs, but often talking about things to do downtown on the weekends or after a Reds game etc.

The problem with 700 is that these are mostly the same people I listened to religiously from the mid-80s through the mid-90s and we are now in the late 00s. Eddie and Tracy are relatively new and fresh. Daugherty can be a little too spleen-y for my taste - he was so much better than Tim Sullivan back in the day, but he's been here too long. There was pep and verve to what they had to say 20 years ago and now it's just boring. Cunningham has been all over the map over the years. McConnell has gotten fat and happen. Scott Sloan is really a Toledo guy and was big there in the 90s - does he even broadcast from Cincy these days?

 

The real problem is that radio is a declining industry (quite extensively suicidal if you ask me) and there hasn't been new blood in ages because as it shrinks it stops taking chances and sticks with the same old, same old. Clear Channel is also evil incarnate - the Dillard's of the radio industry.

dmerkow, you're correct Sloan is originally from Toledo but now lives here in Cincinnati and broadcasts out of the WLW studios.

Kudos to Daugherty for sneaking into the Sports Talk seat, this gives him a lot more options when he's laid off from The Enquirer in the next two years.  That said, he's a consistently pessimistic writer and host, and for that reason alone I much prefer Ken Broo's show and Any Furman's shows.  Also, I'm totally sick of Alan Cutler. 

 

Sensible Don is somehow an expert on modern streetcars because he drove a metro bus.

 

Sloan is just not that good and will never be better than he is.   

 

And Daryl Parks is somehow an expert on all things local when he didn't grow up here and has commuted from Anderson Twp to Kenwood for the last 8 or so years. 

     

Do you ever listen to 101.1 the WIZ? It's very diverse as well, guess we need a thread about how much they suck too.

 

The reason so many people on this board, including me, dislike 700 WLW is because of their anti-city/anti-Cincinnati skew.  They stop at nothing to bash the city, portray it as crime ridden, generalize our minority populations and stereotype them.

 

I don't care if you're a conservative or liberal, the things they do on that station are for shock value and come at the expense of the city we all love.  That is why 700 WLW sucks.

 

What you have to realize though is that even without WLW, that is the view many still have of Cincinnati. I know that is a view belonging mostly to the "suburban, white male," but it is a common view of Cincinnati and those are the kinds of peoples who's opinions you want to change...bring them downtown...get them to spend money...stimulate the city's economy and continue to make Cincinnati a better place for all.

 

Which is what 700 promotes, right?

 

Cincinnati has made great strides over the past decade and is continuing at great pace, but there are still negative views out there. Those negative views need to be changed, and honestly while I hear a lot of negative views of downtown on WLW, I don't really hear anyone intelligent calling in to try and voice an opinion in the other direction.

 

Trust me ... as just one person, I have tried time and time again. They cut you off, or try to speak over you. It doesn't work. Who wants to look like an idiot on their own radio show, right?

 

 

 

It be nice if the next time Cunningham, McConnel or Sloan discuss streetcars if someone knowledgeable of the pro-streetcar movement could call in and clearly explain the benefits. Honestly, I think if the person who runs www.cincystreetcar.org wrote to 700 WLW and mentioned the site he runs, he may be able to be a guest on one of the shows. I could definitely see it happening on Sloan or McConnel's show.

 

They're not all "anti-Cincinnati" by the way. I listen to Eddie and Tracy quite often, they're constantly promoting downtown restaurants, bars and activities. Not just in advertising plugs, but often talking about things to do downtown on the weekends or after a Reds game etc.

 

Eddie and Tracy aren't near as bad as Cunningham, but they still tip-toe around topics that would potentially bring a positive beam of light to Downtown, but they know that's not their station's goal ... so they avoid it.

 

I'd say McConnel is more of a promoter than anyone, but that's still pretty comical to call him pro-downtown.

 

The problem with 700 is that these are mostly the same people I listened to religiously from the mid-80s through the mid-90s and we are now in the late 00s. Eddie and Tracy are relatively new and fresh. Daugherty can be a little too spleen-y for my taste - he was so much better than Tim Sullivan back in the day, but he's been here too long. There was pep and verve to what they had to say 20 years ago and now it's just boring. Cunningham has been all over the map over the years. McConnell has gotten fat and happen. Scott Sloan is really a Toledo guy and was big there in the 90s - does he even broadcast from Cincy these days?

 

The real problem is that radio is a declining industry (quite extensively suicidal if you ask me) and there hasn't been new blood in ages because as it shrinks it stops taking chances and sticks with the same old, same old. Clear Channel is also evil incarnate - the Dillard's of the radio industry.

 

Well said! It's time to move forward.

The problem with 700 is that these are mostly the same people I listened to religiously from the mid-80s through the mid-90s and we are now in the late 00s. Eddie and Tracy are relatively new and fresh. Daugherty can be a little too spleen-y for my taste - he was so much better than Tim Sullivan back in the day, but he's been here too long. There was pep and verve to what they had to say 20 years ago and now it's just boring. Cunningham has been all over the map over the years. McConnell has gotten fat and happen. Scott Sloan is really a Toledo guy and was big there in the 90s - does he even broadcast from Cincy these days?

 

The real problem is that radio is a declining industry (quite extensively suicidal if you ask me) and there hasn't been new blood in ages because as it shrinks it stops taking chances and sticks with the same old, same old. Clear Channel is also evil incarnate - the Dillard's of the radio industry.

 

Eh, I would say radio is much, much safer than print media at this point.  The internet has destroyed print media, while it's expanded options for radio and TV.  Neither are going anywhere, papers on the other hand have an actual chance of being a thing of the past.

 

^ Or the fact that Satellite radio is about to go belly up.  Last I heard they had hired a bankruptcy consultant.  The only reason most people have satellite radio is that it came equipped in their cars with a year or two free (payed for by the auto company of course).  Now that car sales are down, plus no one is renewing their subscriptions after their trials, satellite radio is dying.  I wouldn't be surprised if it's gone before the end of the year.  I'm betting 700WLW leaving because of "circumstances beyond their control" has something to do with the financial troubles of XM, not the popularity of WLW.  Sorry to burst your bubble!

 

700WLW is very popular, very entertaining, and probably the most powerful media source in Cincinnati.  The people posting in this thread are the minority, by far.  Hell, I'm in New York City right now, at work, and am actually listening to WLW.  The noon National Anthem is one of my daily highlights.

 

Satellite radio is fine, especially with XM and Series merging. It is almost impossible now to purchase a head unit without Sat. inputs.

 

What probably happened, was that folks started threatening XM because of 700's stance on certain issues. Of the people that voice their opinion, I'd bet it's the folks against 700 more than the other way around.

 

Sirius and XM merged because they were both failing, and thought they were destroying each other.  They were wrong, they were both just plain failing.  The stock is worth about 15 cents right now.  They actually just got bailed out of bankruptcy by Liberty the other day: http://247wallst.com/2009/03/06/sirius-xm-holders-get-to-live-longer-siri-linta-lintb-lcapa-lcapb-lmdia/

 

Either Liberty didn't want WLW there for whatever reason, or  (more likely) Clear Channel wanted to get away from the ensuing mess.

ClearChannel is on the precipice of collapse for a lot of reasons - mostly a lot of debt was used to create the company.

SiriusXM would actually have been gone in May if their lender didn't buy 40% of the company and erase the debt.  Even that might not work.

 

With or without Clear Channel, WLW would exist.  It has way too large of an audience (probably the largest in Cinci, though i can't find any numbers) to fold.  As I said, radio and TV are safe, it's newspapers that are a dying media.  If only while driving, most people listen to radio every day.  Not many people read a newspaper every day, sans the internet.

Do you ever listen to 101.1 the WIZ? It's very diverse as well, guess we need a thread about how much they suck too.

 

The reason so many people on this board, including me, dislike 700 WLW is because of their anti-city/anti-Cincinnati skew.  They stop at nothing to bash the city, portray it as crime ridden, generalize our minority populations and stereotype them.

 

I don't care if you're a conservative or liberal, the things they do on that station are for shock value and come at the expense of the city we all love.  That is why 700 WLW sucks.

 

What you have to realize though is that even without WLW, that is the view many still have of Cincinnati. I know that is a view belonging mostly to the "suburban, white male," but it is a common view of Cincinnati and those are the kinds of peoples who's opinions you want to change...bring them downtown...get them to spend money...stimulate the city's economy and continue to make Cincinnati a better place for all.

 

Which is what 700 promotes, right?

 

It may be a common viewpoint among the various radio personalities, but I wouldn't say they "promote" being "anti-downtown." I really don't think it's their goal or agenda to push a negative attitude towards downtown development, just a mutual feeling...and one many Cincinnati area residents share despite all the improvements made in recent years.

 

Lets face it. With or without the radio hosts of 700 WLW...the "blunders" some downtown projects have become have left a sour taste in some peoples mouths of downtown development.

 

Cincinnati has made great strides over the past decade and is continuing at great pace, but there are still negative views out there. Those negative views need to be changed, and honestly while I hear a lot of negative views of downtown on WLW, I don't really hear anyone intelligent calling in to try and voice an opinion in the other direction.

 

Trust me ... as just one person, I have tried time and time again. They cut you off, or try to speak over you. It doesn't work. Who wants to look like an idiot on their own radio show, right?

 

I've gotten through on both Parks and Scott Sloan's show. On Parks' to talk about streetcars and the metro bus system and Sloan's to talk about Kings Island. Both times I was neither "talked over" or "cut off" and both times I shared opposing views.

 

As an aside I once got through to Ken Broo's "Bengals Therapy" and tried to convince him that the resigning of David Weathers to the Cincinnati Reds back in Novemeber is what motivated the Bengals to go on that end of the season win streak. He asked if I had been drinking and then "cut me off." I deserved that though, I wasn't being serious. :)

 

Daugherty can be a little too spleen-y for my taste

 

Please define the word spleen-y for me. LOL

Do you ever listen to 101.1 the WIZ? It's very diverse as well, guess we need a thread about how much they suck too.

 

The reason so many people on this board, including me, dislike 700 WLW is because of their anti-city/anti-Cincinnati skew.  They stop at nothing to bash the city, portray it as crime ridden, generalize our minority populations and stereotype them.

 

I don't care if you're a conservative or liberal, the things they do on that station are for shock value and come at the expense of the city we all love.  That is why 700 WLW sucks.

 

What you have to realize though is that even without WLW, that is the view many still have of Cincinnati. I know that is a view belonging mostly to the "suburban, white male," but it is a common view of Cincinnati and those are the kinds of peoples who's opinions you want to change...bring them downtown...get them to spend money...stimulate the city's economy and continue to make Cincinnati a better place for all.

 

Which is what 700 promotes, right?

 

I've gotten through on both Parks and Scott Sloan's show. On Parks' to talk about streetcars and the metro bus system and Sloan's to talk about Kings Island. Both times I was neither "talked over" or "cut off" and both times I shared opposing views.

 

As an aside I once got through to Ken Broo's "Bengals Therapy" and tried to convince him that the resigning of David Weathers to the Cincinnati Reds back in Novemeber is what motivated the Bengals to go on that end of the season win streak. He asked if I had been drinking and then "cut me off." I deserved that though, I wasn't being serious. :)

 

 

Your experiences having nothing to do with mine.

The problem with 700 is that these are mostly the same people I listened to religiously from the mid-80s through the mid-90s and we are now in the late 00s. Eddie and Tracy are relatively new and fresh. Daugherty can be a little too spleen-y for my taste - he was so much better than Tim Sullivan back in the day, but he's been here too long. There was pep and verve to what they had to say 20 years ago and now it's just boring. Cunningham has been all over the map over the years. McConnell has gotten fat and happen. Scott Sloan is really a Toledo guy and was big there in the 90s - does he even broadcast from Cincy these days?

 

The real problem is that radio is a declining industry (quite extensively suicidal if you ask me) and there hasn't been new blood in ages because as it shrinks it stops taking chances and sticks with the same old, same old. Clear Channel is also evil incarnate - the Dillard's of the radio industry.

 

Eh, I would say radio is much, much safer than print media at this point.  The internet has destroyed print media, while it's expanded options for radio and TV.  Neither are going anywhere, papers on the other hand have an actual chance of being a thing of the past.

 

^ Or the fact that Satellite radio is about to go belly up.  Last I heard they had hired a bankruptcy consultant.  The only reason most people have satellite radio is that it came equipped in their cars with a year or two free (payed for by the auto company of course).  Now that car sales are down, plus no one is renewing their subscriptions after their trials, satellite radio is dying.  I wouldn't be surprised if it's gone before the end of the year.  I'm betting 700WLW leaving because of "circumstances beyond their control" has something to do with the financial troubles of XM, not the popularity of WLW.  Sorry to burst your bubble!

 

700WLW is very popular, very entertaining, and probably the most powerful media source in Cincinnati.  The people posting in this thread are the minority, by far.  Hell, I'm in New York City right now, at work, and am actually listening to WLW.  The noon National Anthem is one of my daily highlights.

 

Satellite radio is fine, especially with XM and Series merging. It is almost impossible now to purchase a head unit without Sat. inputs.

 

What probably happened, was that folks started threatening XM because of 700's stance on certain issues. Of the people that voice their opinion, I'd bet it's the folks against 700 more than the other way around.

 

Sirius and XM merged because they were both failing, and thought they were destroying each other.  They were wrong, they were both just plain failing.  The stock is worth about 15 cents right now.  They actually just got bailed out of bankruptcy by Liberty the other day: http://247wallst.com/2009/03/06/sirius-xm-holders-get-to-live-longer-siri-linta-lintb-lcapa-lcapb-lmdia/

 

Either Liberty didn't want WLW there for whatever reason, or  (more likely) Clear Channel wanted to get away from the ensuing mess.

 

Do you honestly want to measure the level of a company's relevance by the percentage of it's stock plunge right now?

Some people choose to perpetuate the negative stereotypes that sell with the white flight crowd...others choose not to.  Life is all about choices.  700 WLW has drawn the line in the sand and chosen to sell negativity and scare tactics.  They choose to sell people on the negative an inappropriate stereotypes that so many minority groups are working hard to dismiss.  700 WLW is the bully who takes pleasure in the pain of others.  They pick on you, torment you, and harass you in ways that appeal to the masses who like to be on the "winning" side of an argument.

 

Personally, I have no respect for such people, and 700 WLW doesn't deserve anyone's respect.  There are reasonable ways in which you can argue and debate the conservative ideologies and that's fine.  But the ways in which 700 WLW sells itself are not only distasteful, they're outright wrong.

Do you ever listen to 101.1 the WIZ? It's very diverse as well, guess we need a thread about how much they suck too.

 

The reason so many people on this board, including me, dislike 700 WLW is because of their anti-city/anti-Cincinnati skew. They stop at nothing to bash the city, portray it as crime ridden, generalize our minority populations and stereotype them.

 

I don't care if you're a conservative or liberal, the things they do on that station are for shock value and come at the expense of the city we all love. That is why 700 WLW sucks.

 

What you have to realize though is that even without WLW, that is the view many still have of Cincinnati. I know that is a view belonging mostly to the "suburban, white male," but it is a common view of Cincinnati and those are the kinds of peoples who's opinions you want to change...bring them downtown...get them to spend money...stimulate the city's economy and continue to make Cincinnati a better place for all.

 

Which is what 700 promotes, right?

 

I've gotten through on both Parks and Scott Sloan's show. On Parks' to talk about streetcars and the metro bus system and Sloan's to talk about Kings Island. Both times I was neither "talked over" or "cut off" and both times I shared opposing views.

 

As an aside I once got through to Ken Broo's "Bengals Therapy" and tried to convince him that the resigning of David Weathers to the Cincinnati Reds back in Novemeber is what motivated the Bengals to go on that end of the season win streak. He asked if I had been drinking and then "cut me off." I deserved that though, I wasn't being serious. :)

 

 

Your experiences having nothing to do with mine.

 

I'm sorry you had bad experiences, mine have been fine when I've called in. I'm just saying not everyone is "talked over" or "cut off."

Even if you don't mind 700's anti city attitude, blatant ignorance on nearly every topic except sports, and over all obnoxiousness, they are, and have been terribly racist.  From their billboards promoting "The Big Juan" with a fat man with a large mustache and sombrero, to offering hints to help talk with illegal immigrants such as "be careful with those hedge clippers around the garden". Also, the content of many of their shows has been offensive towards African Americans, the LGBT community, and Appalachians.  I can't say if a lot of people have stopped listening, but I do know that my mom and dad, who both used to listen fairly often, have quit listening to 700 entirely because they were so sick of the garbage being put out there.  And with 3 great NPR stations in the area, it's a no brainer.

Spleen-y - the habit of venting one's spleen (whiney and kind of negative).

 

700 has been a top the ratings for a long time. The collapse in advertising is hurting radio and tv (esp. local since car dealers used to be one of the biggies). They aren't quite as harmed by the shift in medium - though there have been a few hints that we are long past of the glory days in any advertising reliant medium.

Do you honestly want to measure the level of a company's relevance by the percentage of it's stock plunge right now?

 

Satellite radio has been having financial problems for years.  This is nothing recent.

 

Do you honestly want to measure the level of a company's relevance by the percentage of it's stock plunge right now?

 

Not measuring their relevance (which is probably mostly based upon opinion), just there chances to exist for much longer, which aren't very good at 13 cents a share, 40% of which they had to hand over to even stay afloat.  That event happening the same weekend WLW left was too much of a coincidence for me to believe it wasn't the cause one way or another.

Even if you don't mind 700's anti city attitude, blatant ignorance on nearly every topic except sports, and over all obnoxiousness, they are, and have been terribly racist. From their billboards promoting "The Big Juan" with a fat man with a large mustache and sombrero, to offering hints to help talk with illegal immigrants such as "be careful with those hedge clippers around the garden". Also, the content of many of their shows has been offensive towards African Americans, the LGBT community, and Appalachians. I can't say if a lot of people have stopped listening, but I do know that my mom and dad, who both used to listen fairly often, have quit listening to 700 entirely because they were so sick of the garbage being put out there. And with 3 great NPR stations in the area, it's a no brainer.

 

Politically incorrect, not racist.  Most people enjoy well-placed politically incorrect humor, or else believe they need to be politically correct in order to not hurt someone's feelings.  Very few people are actually politically correct.

Just heard ... Bill Cunningham asked if "you would ever walk into the Cincinnati Zoo if the tigers weren't behind bars", then he said; "try walking into Over-The-Rhine."

 

wow.

Wow what?  The simple analogy was that ithey're both dangerous, don't twist it into something it wasn't.

At the very least it was another blatant anti-city jab.

 

At the worst it perpetuates harmful stereotypes and compares the residents of OTR w/ zoo animals.

At the very least it was another blatant anti-city jab.

 

At the worst it perpetuates harmful stereotypes and compares the residents of OTR w/ zoo animals.

 

Yep. Ram, I'm in OTR DAILY ... this area should never be compared to a zoo that houses wild animals that are otherwise locked up in a cage or running free in the jungle. Horrible choice of words. Horrible.

At the most, it was a bad choice of words, and spelled out Willie's problem with the city: crime.  That's what the discussion was about.  I'm in OTR quite often too, once or twice a week at least, I've worked on a few school projects there, and done quite a bit of photography too.  I know it's not as dangerous as the wrap it gets, but I believe crime is a huge problem there.  Cunningham's general view is that we shouldn't be spending money at all in the nieghberhood until we have enough jail cells to keep our criminals locked away for due time.  While I don't agree with that, I respect the opinion.

I know it's not as dangerous as the wrap it gets...

 

Fair enough, but this ^ is my point.

Just heard ... Bill Cunningham asked if "you would ever walk into the Cincinnati Zoo if the tigers weren't behind bars", then he said; "try walking into Over-The-Rhine."

 

wow.

Wow what? The simple analogy was that ithey're both dangerous, don't twist it into something it wasn't.

 

it is about as stupid as an analogy as this one "would you ever play Russian Roulette? then try driving and automobile!"

 

 

Just listening to the Eddie and Tracy show. They just said: "why aren't we using this money to build a new jail to stimulate the economy instead of building a stupid trolley!" ...

 

Are they not aware of the spending stipulations on the stimulus and public transportation?

Isn't the jail a county issue?

By building a jail, will this really stimulate the economy?

 

Tracy just said he doesn't go downtown because he doesn't feel safe?! lol ... I think he's a vag and a moron.

 

Then, just do what millions and millions of others are doing and just turn them off!!

yeah, millions    :wink2:

at least dozens and dozens...

I would say heck yes building a jail will stimulate the economy.  One, it will employ an architect, contractor, and numerous other trades for a year or so, allowing them to stay afloat and not lay off employees.  It would benifit the local economy.  Second, it would reduce crime in OTR and other areas by keeping these guys with multiple offenses and warrents in jail for the amount of time they deserve, rather than getting sent home early.  And finally, more so than actually reducing crime is the perception of safety.  As I said earlier, OTR is safer than the wrap it gets, and a new jail with more cells and more bars will make people think OTR and downtown are just that much safer.

 

You can get into the details about who pays for the jail vs. who pays for transit, but most people in Cincinnati don't care.  It all came from their paychecks one way or another and they have priorities.  I hate getting into a jail vs. streetcar argument because we need both, and if forced to prioritize the jail is the obvious winner, for me.

Building a jail is actually classic stimulus spending and many were built during the New Deal. The problem is that we built a lot of them over the last twenty years and they have continuing costs.

Over-the-Rhine is much safer than how it's portrayed by the suburban-dwelling media.  I have walked or bicycled through it 7-10 times a week for the past 18 months without incident.  Once I saw a fight spilling out onto the street, but that's it.  I saw more street brawls, questionable policing, and overheard more stupid quotes in one night as a student at Ohio University than I've seen in Over-the-Rhine in my lifetime.   

 

I'm thinking about doing a "midnight in OTR" photo series which would portray the neighborhood as it is -- mostly empty -- and send it to 700 WLW.  I'm amazed by how safe it has been since the Sheriff's patrols as compared to 2002-2003, when it was borderline impossible to take photographs in the neighborhood due to the relentless drug activity. 

Over-the-Rhine is much safer than how it's portrayed by the suburban-dwelling media. I have walked or bicycled through it 7-10 times a week for the past 18 months without incident. Once I saw a fight spilling out onto the street, but that's it. I saw more street brawls, questionable policing, and overheard more stupid quotes in one night as a student at Ohio University than I've seen in Over-the-Rhine in my lifetime.  

 

I'm thinking about doing a "midnight in OTR" photo series which would portray the neighborhood as it is -- mostly empty -- and send it to 700 WLW. I'm amazed by how safe it has been since the Sheriff's patrols as compared to 2002-2003, when it was borderline impossible to take photographs in the neighborhood due to the relentless drug activity.

 

That's a great idea. I'd love to see them.

 

I've stumbled through OTR at 2 and 3 o'clock in the morning drunk as hell ... walking home. I know that's stupid, because I would be completely defenseless, but I've never had one incident. One night I walked from One Lytle Apt.s' up through Pendleton and up to Prospect Hill at 4 in the morning.

I had a friend trying to walk home to clifton from downtown one night - i picked him up on 13th and vine - he's from the country and may have been a bit out of his league had something actually happened

I had a friend trying to walk home to clifton from downtown one night - i picked him up on 13th and vine - he's from the country and may have been a bit out of his league had something actually happened

 

lol ... "from the country."

Some guy just called Willy and made the claim that OTR was safe for whites to walk around in.  Cunningham bet him a hot fudge sundae that he couldn't walk 20 blocks back and forth across OTR on a Friday or Saturday night at 9:00 in good weather without getting accosted.  Supposedly the producer was going to arrange the terms. 

 

I don't know how you guys think this kind of stuff "sucks."

Yeah, I heard it.  It was great!

I bet you a hot fudge sundae you can't go through the lower level of Kenwood Mall without getting accosted. Those Sprint salespersons are the #$%^ing worst. What part of "I'M UNDER A TWO YEAR CONTRACT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND!?"

 

Oh and don't get me started on the Scientologists with their crazy stress meters.

1.  Who walks 20 blocks anywhere regularly?  Certainly not people who live in the suburbs.

 

2.  If I get asked for money, that means the neighborhood is dangerous?  Guess I better put on my bulletproof vest before walking down Calhoun Street.

Acosted is pretty open ended.  I guess if the guy gets panhandled that counts as acosted?    And I'd bet a root beer float.

Some guy just called Willy and made the claim that OTR was safe for whites to walk around in.  Cunningham bet him a hot fudge sundae that he couldn't walk 20 blocks back and forth across OTR on a Friday or Saturday night at 9:00 in good weather without getting accosted.   Supposedly the producer was going to arrange the terms. 

 

I don't know how you guys think this kind of stuff "sucks."

 

I don't know how you can support the revitilzation and repopulation of downtown and OTR and fail to see how this type of "entertainment" is harmful to the city of Cincinnati?

 

And what does he mean by "accosted"? Somebody on the streets talks to you? Heaven forbid. Or does he think he'll actually get mugged?

They're a bunch of pansies. SCPA kids walk through OTR all the time and don't think anything of it.

could you drive around West Chester for an hour at 5pm on a Friday and not be accosted by a rude driver?