Camera yields $34,779

 

By JENNIFER KOVACS Tribune Chronicle

 

GIRARD - The city has $34,779 more in its coffers, traffic is slow and steady, and Safety/Service Director Jerry Lambert isn't about to apologize for Girard's automated speed camera doing the trick.

 

And for anyone prone to criticize the 560 paid citations the city has taken in, Lambert has one solution:

"It's real easy - stop speeding,'' he said.

 

More at:

http://www.tribune-chronicle.com/news/story/1029202005_new11camera29.asp

Sounds like New Rome.

Yup...New Rome without the cops & cruisers.... just Big Brother on a light pole.  I like to see if anyone ever challenges the video "evidence" as to its quality or whether anyone with the city has the ability to edit it after the fact. 

They're going to be installing red-light cameras at prominent intersections in Cleveland - and I couldn't be happier. As someone who crosses Clifton Boulevard to catch my bus, I can't tell you how many people brazenly blow through red lights, creating a danger to cross traffic AND pedestrians. We aren't talking an "oops, the light changed while I was IN the intersection". They're usually people commuting from ex-urbia in Lorain County - I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate it if I took an SUV and plowed through their precious subdivision the way they plow through my neighborhood.  :x

 

And for those of you crying foul about Big Brother BS, re-read this:

"We've said it over and over again. The amount of leeway between the speed limit and the number we're using to pick people up is extremely generous. It's a generous amount above the speed limit. If they get picked up, they deserve it,'' he said.

... I can't tell you how many people brazenly blow through red lights ...

 

On my first visit to Cleveland, in 1978, I got the impression that maybe it was OK there to blow through red lights, so long as you laid on the horn while doing it. :-o

 

I thought that was better than Fort Wayne, where people see a light turn yellow a half-block ahead and floor it, ripping through the intersection against the signal without any warning. :roll:

 

Almost everyone speeds through my neighborhood, and recent street improvements have made the situation worse. The posted limit is 35, which is too fast for a residential street where heavy trucks travel through, and I've used a radar gun to clock quite a few drivers at 45 and some at more than 50. I've seen the police enforcement reports, and there have been no speeding tickets issued in this neighborhood in the past year. The noise from fast traffic is the biggest negative against property values and quality of life here. :whip:

 

Our mayor, who's doing a good job in many other respects, disbanded the Traffic Enforcement Division in order to apply the resources to "more important issues." I don't know if his speeding ticket (45 in a 30) had anything to do with it.

I myself don't care too much for the cameras, but I see the need and think its an excellent reminder and source of revenue. I remember in junior high watching a show on Discovery or something about some place in Arizona using them. I was amazed and couldn't wait for them to sweep the nation.

 

However many cities, at least Middletown, only uses them for enforcement. This city in Arizona used the cameras not only for that, but when a camera catch someone running the light, the opposite light was delayed from changing red for 5 or so seconds. When politicians swear its not about the money, I ask why the lights don't have this feature. If you want the money, say it, because its fine with me, I obey the law, at least at the intersections with them.

Senators debate possible limits on traffic cameras

Uses beyond getting red-light runners raise issues about privacy, some say

Wednesday, November 02, 2005

Jodi Andes

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

 

 

State legislators still want to place some limits on red-light cameras in Ohio, but they seem less inclined to regulate them out of existence.

 

A bill that passed the Ohio House would require cities to station police officers at intersections with the cameras — a change police say the cities couldn’t afford.

 

Yesterday, in a fourth hearing on the topic, some senators appeared to have less restrictive ideas in mind.

 

More at:

http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2005/11/02/20051102-E4-00.html&chck=t

 

 

I don't like the idea to designate the money to improve the intersection. When cities want to fix an interesection, you'll see the cameras going up, just to pay for the improvements. I like the idea of standardization.

I've seen stories that say they decrease safety - that accident statistics go up at intersections with red lights.  I don't think they're a panacea...

 

Here's an Instapundit post on the topic, with a few links to stories about increased accidents at camera'd-intersections...

In Middletown, a truck filled with some kind of sugary mixture headed for the Miller Brewry quickly stopped at an intersection because the driver feared the camera and he overturned spilling the sugary mixture all over Route 4. The highway was closed for more than 5 hours while the slippery substance was sucked up by specialty cleaning crews.

 

Yes its a true story.

In Middletown, a truck filled with some kind of sugary mixture headed for the Miller Brewry quickly stopped at an intersection because the driver feared the camera and he overturned spilling the sugary mixture all over Route 4. The highway was closed for more than 5 hours while the slippery substance was sucked up by specialty cleaning crews.

 

Sounds like unsafe driving to me. Either he was going too fast or not paying attention, or both. He didn't have his vehicle under control, and that's a basic tenet of safe driving.

Court grants stay in speed-camera case

Thursday, November 3, 2005

The attorney said a class-action suit may be coming.

 

By JOHN W. GOODWIN JR.

VINDICATOR TRUMBULL STAFF

 

GIRARD — A court order has placed a temporary stay on one woman's order to pay fines imposed by a speed camera here.

 

City officials, however, say all others who are ticketed must still hand over the cash.

 

Julie Sferra, through her lawyers Brian P. Kish and David J. Betras of Canfield, filed a motion for an alternate writ of prohibition Monday in the 11th District Court of Appeals. The motion asked the court to prohibit Sferra's scheduled hearing next Wednesday before a hearing officer in Girard, along with all other similar hearings involving the speeding program.

 

More at:

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/285754403047300.php

COMMENTARY

 

Leigh Allan: Tripping the light fanatics

By Leigh Allan

 

Dayton Daily News

 

Somewhere around Daytonland, an owner of a maroon minivan is about to be the proud recipient of a free vehicle portrait, shot from the rear. Well, free except for the $85 fine.

 

I was at the photo shoot Monday, at Smithville and Patterson roads, taking a look at life in the red-light-camera world. An update seemed timely because an Ohio Senate committee is in the midst of hearings on House Bill 56, a measure that would have the effect of ending the camera system by saying tickets could come only if a police officer were on the scene to issue them.

 

Full op-ed at:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/columns/daily/1103leigh.html

Sounds like unsafe driving to me. Either he was going too fast or not paying attention, or both. He didn't have his vehicle under control, and that's a basic tenet of safe driving.

 

Yep. I think he might have used the cameras for an excuse. BTW, that intersection doesn't have them.

From the 4/14/06 Youngstown Business Journal:

 

 

ODOT Launches $86.7 Million I-80 Meander Bridge Project

Apr 14, 2006 9:29 a.m.

By George Nelson

 

AUSTINTOWN, Ohio -- Safety and traffic flow on Interstate 80 will be improved with the replacement of the two bridges running over the Meander Reservoir – an $86.7 million project described as the biggest in northeast Ohio since the highway was built.

 

Against a backdrop of a picture-perfect spring day people have been awaiting for weeks, local leaders joined with representatives of the Ohio Department of Transportation Thursday for a ceremonial ground breaking. Actual construction is expected to get under way within the next few weeks. 

 

...

 

http://www.business-journal.com/ODOTMeanderBridgeProject.asp

 

Project website: http://www.mah224.com/

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From the 5/15/06 Youngstown Vindicator:

 

 

Concepts offer ways to update Route 224

An open house is set for 6 to 8 p.m. Wednesday at the Boardman Government Center.

By DENISE DICK

VINDICATOR STAFF WRITER

 

BOARDMAN — After more than a year of study, consultants, with the help of community members, have devised four conceptual alternatives for one of the Mahoning Valley's busiest thoroughfares.

 

The $1 million study of U.S. Route 224 by URS Consultants of Akron, funded by Ohio Department of Transportation and Eastgate Regional Council of Governments, started in November 2004. It focused on the six-mile stretch between Interstate 680 and state Route 11.

 

The alternatives are "to address safety concerns related to traffic and congestion," said Paula Putnam, a spokeswoman for ODOT District 4.

 

The alternatives may be viewed during an open house from 6 to 8 p.m. Wednesday in the Boardman Government Center, Market Street. Putnam said staff from ODOT, the consulting firm and Eastgate will be available during the session to answer questions.

 

 

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/291174762845637.php

 

From the 5/18/06 Youngstown Vindicator:

 

 

Targeting 224 traffic problems

The study focuses on the six-mile stretch between I-680 and state Route 11.

By NANCY TULLIS

VINDICATOR STAFF WRITER

 

BOARDMAN — Bruce and Patricia Berry like some of the improvements suggested to improve traffic flow along U.S. Route 224, but they are concerned how the road work will affect their business.

 

The Berrys, owners of Sleepy Hollow Sleep Shop at 380 Boardman-Poland Road, were among those who live or work along the Route 224 corridor who viewed alternatives being considered to reduce traffic on one of the Mahoning Valley's most congested thoroughfares.

 

Ohio Department of Transportation officials had an open house Wednesday for anyone with questions or suggestions about proposed road improvements and construction.

 

The $1 million study of Route 224 by URS Consultants of Akron, funded by Ohio Department of Transportation and Eastgate Regional Council of Governments, started in November 2004. It focused on the six-mile stretch between Interstate 680 and state Route 11.

 

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/290038627680714.php

 

From the 6/1/06 Warren Tribune Chronicle:

 

 

I-80 construction prompts closures

By AMANDA SMITH-TEUTSCH Tribune Chronicle

 

AUSTINTOWN — Just as common as backyard barbecues and baseball in the summer are the inevitable orange barrels on local roadways as the construction season gets into full swing. It may seem the caution cones are sprouting from the pavement with greater frequency this year —the Ohio Department of Transportation is gearing up for a construction year that’s counted in the hundreds of millions more than last year’s spending.

 

‘‘It’s a big money year,’’ said Paula Putnam, an ODOT District IV spokeswoman. ‘‘There’s about $150 million more than last construction year.’’

 

...

 

http://www.tribune-chronicle.com/News/articles.asp?articleID=4547

 

This construction is causing 2-3 miles of traffic buildup all the way on I-80 into Trumbull County... If you are going that direction take I-680 to the 7-11 Connecter and from there you can meet up with I-80 without any traffic troubles... Same way going back west.

I think the I-680 exit at Tiffany Blvd. will work well since less traffic heading west onto 224. If not that, have only a limited number of roads that come off of 224 without any entrances to any businesses, have the entrances on the side streets.

This construction is causing 2-3 miles of traffic buildup all the way on I-80 into Trumbull County... If you are going that direction take I-680 to the 7-11 Connecter and from there you can meet up with I-80 without any traffic troubles... Same way going back west.

 

How is following Oh 711 & I-680 supposed to help, when the bridge in question is west of those two routes?

I'm telling you that because I-80/Rt. 11 Ramp onto I-80 West in Austintown is backed up every day and the I-680 Ramp is not... I'm helping you avoid the area. It does get worse down at the bridges, but unless you get off at 46 and hit Mahoning over Meander that way and get back on, then you got some long traffic tieups.

From the 7/10/06 Warren Tribune Chronicle:

 

 

Reactions mixed on camera

By RAYMOND L. SMITH Tribune Chronicle

 

GIRARD — The reaction has so far been mixed from motorists about Common Pleas Judge John M. Stuard’s decision last week to remove the city’s speed camera.

 

‘‘I thought it was ridiculous for them to place the speed cameras here in the first place, so I’m glad the judge had them removed,’’ Jennifer Battaglia said. ‘‘U.S. Route 422 is a major highway and it’s hard to expect people to go 25 mph.

 

‘‘I realize there is a safety factor, but 25 mph is a bit much when you consider there are semis traveling up and down this road.’’

 

More at:

 

http://tribune-chronicle.com/articles.asp?articleID=6037

 

I am for these cameras so long as they are part of a systemic effort to improve safety for pedestrians and quality of life for residents. Some random, out of the way speed trap doesn't count.

 

Having lived on a straight-away out of town, I can confess to many a day and night pining away for a technology-based solution to address the bastards blasting by at 50 mph 25 feet from my front step. Preferrably a TOW-missle. but in a pinch, I'd accept a traffic camera.

From the 7/22/06 Youngstown Vindicator:

 

 

Camera-suit attorney files for ticket refunds

There is $172,000 currently held in escrow.

By JOHN W. GOODWIN JR.

VINDICATOR TRUMBULL STAFF

 

GIRARD — Fines paid to the city for citations issued from the camera designed to catch speeders here have been sitting in an escrow account. Now an attorney is asking a judge to release the funds to those who paid those fines.

 

Atty. James Denney, who won a class-action lawsuit against the use of the camera, has filed a motion in Trumbull County Common Pleas Court asking Judge John Stuard to order the city to release the money. He said the motion also asks that some expenses incurred by the city be taken out of the funds held in escrow.

 

More at:

 

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/286616644633352.php

 

From the 7/24/06 Warren Tribune Chronicle:

 

 

City wants to refund fines

By JENNIFER KOVACS Tribune Chronicle

 

GIRARD — City Council could begin to take action today to return to motorists the more than $170,000 the city made from using its speed camera.

 

But even if the legislation that appears on council’s agenda is passed, the measure will make little impact.

 

‘‘That money was set aside by court order into an escrow account. It would need a court order to release that money,’’ said Auditor Sam Zirafi.

 

More at:

http://tribune-chronicle.com/articles.asp?articleID=6570

 

LOL.

 

 

Sign of times could be costly

By JENNIFER KOVACS Tribune Chronicle

 

GIRARD — Councilman Daniel Moadus Jr. fought the law and won.

 

To celebrate, he decided to break one.

 

Moadus led a class action lawsuit against the city that challenged its use of an automated speed camera to issue tickets under civil law rather than criminal. Trumbull County Common Pleas Judge John M. Stuard ruled it was unconstitutional earlier this month and the camera has been gone ever since.

 

To commemorate his victory, Moadus took a wrench and stole one of the signs posted at each of the city’s 13 entranceways that read ‘‘photo enforcement in place.’’

 

More at:

http://tribune-chronicle.com/articles.asp?articleID=6920

 

From the 8/2/06 Youngstown Vindicator:

 

 

Girard traffic cameras done, councilman says

A councilman says support for appealing the camera decision is unlikely.

By JOHN W. GOODWIN JR.

VINDICATOR TRUMBULL STAFF

 

GIRARD — The company that owns the city's traffic camera is checking with city council on support for appealing a recent court decision that stopped the device's use in nabbing speeders.

 

Judge John M. Stuard of Trumbull County Common Pleas Court ruled last month that use of the camera is in violation of the Ohio Constitution.

 

Judge Stuard also ordered the city to discontinue camera use unless it is used in accordance with criminal laws set by the state, instead of the civil penalties assessed under the city's ordinance. Girard is also prohibited from collecting any outstanding fines under the civil ordinance drafted by the city.

 

More at:

 

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/313034913354691.php

 

From the 8/5/06 Warren Tribune Chronicle:

 

 

Camera stays unconstitutional

By JENNIFER KOVACS Tribune Chronicle

 

GIRARD — As the 30-day deadline looms, the city appears to be reluctant to appeal a court decision which ruled Girard’s use of a traffic camera to be unconstitutional.

 

‘‘No, absolutely not,’’ said Safety/Service Director Jerry Lambert on Friday when asked if the city would appeal the ruling.

 

Any parties wishing to appeal the July 7 decision by Trumbull County Common Pleas Judge John M. Stuard must file by Monday.

 

More at:

http://tribune-chronicle.com/articles.asp?articleID=7054

 

From the 8/19/06 Warren Tribune Chronicle:

 

 

PHOTO: Cement mixers from Anthony Allega Concrete Construction are shown on a barge that delivers the equipment to the construction site at the twin Interstate 80 bridges over Meander Reservoir. The Ohio Department of Transportation’s record $86.7 million project will widen the interstate and replace the bridges as well as build a 750-foot access road for safety vehicles.  Tribune Chronicle / Steve Schneck

 

Meander project is bridge to safety

By AMANDA SMITH-TEUTSCH Tribune Chronicle

 

AUSTINTOWN — One Austintown resident doesn’t mind any traffic delays this summer caused by the record $86.7 construction project at the Interstate 80 twin bridges over Meander Reservoir.

 

While the 750-foot safety access road being built along side the highway is just a small part of the plan to widen the interstate and replace the bridges, Austintown fire Chief Andy Frost says it’s a very important part.

 

...

 

http://tribune-chronicle.com/articles.asp?articleID=7592

 

From the 8/19/06 Warren Tribune Chronicle:

 

 

PHOTO: Cement mixers from Anthony Allega Concrete Construction are shown on a barge that delivers the equipment to the construction site at the twin Interstate 80 bridges over Meander Reservoir. The Ohio Department of Transportations record $86.7 million project will widen the interstate and replace the bridges as well as build a 750-foot access road for safety vehicles.  Tribune Chronicle / Steve Schneck

 

Sigh! CONCRETE Mixers

From the 8/21/06 Warren Tribune Chronicle:

 

 

PHOTO: Small tugboats are the way equipment is ferried into and out of the construction zone around the Interstate 80 twin bridges at Meander Reservoir.  Tribune Chronicle/Steve Schenck

 

I-80 bridge work not easy

By AMANDA SMITH-TEUTSCH Tribune Chronicle

 

MEANDER RESERVOIR — There’s no easy way to get to the work site of the $86.7 million Ohio Department of Transportation project aimed at widening Interstate 80 across Meander Reservoir.

 

The construction zone on the interstate stretches from state Route 11 to the Ohio Turnpike and the project includes replacing the old two-lane bridges across Meander reservoir with new three-lane expanses boasting features that will collect hazardous spills.

 

...

 

http://tribune-chronicle.com/articles.asp?articleID=7709

 

This is one of the most poorly organized, poorly written news stories I have ever seen.

 

From the 8/28/06 Youngstown Vindicator:

 

 

Changes to Rte. 224 proposed in study

A committee meeting is set for this week.

By DENISE DICK

VINDICATOR STAFF WRITER

 

BOARDMAN — Actual changes to improve traffic flow along the U.S. Route 224 corridor might be a long way down the road, but the proposals are here now.

 

The latest report from the U.S. Route 224 corridor study breaks the busy thoroughfare into five sections with recommendations to improve traffic flow in each section.

 

URS Consultants of Akron, the company hired to conduct the $1 million study, delivered two three-inch binders to all steering committee members last week, detailing a strategic plan.

 

Committee members, including representatives from Canfield and Boardman trustees, the Ohio Department of Transportation and Eastgate Regional Council of Governments, will meet to discuss the recommendations this week, said Kathleen Rodi, Eastgate's director of transportation.

 

ODOT and Eastgate split the cost of the study of the 6-mile stretch of U.S. 224 between state Route 11 in Canfield and Interstate 680 in Poland.

 

 

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/21344098919979.php

 

From the 8/30/06 Youngstown Vindicator:

 

 

Proposal for 224 turns vexing

Completion of the study is fourth in a 14-step process.

By DENISE DICK

VINDICATOR STAFF WRITER

 

BOARDMAN — U.S. Route 224 business owner David Cherney worries that proposals to limit left and right turns in and out of businesses along the busy corridor will deter customers.

 

Cherney owns the plaza at Glenwood Avenue that houses a Subway, Ace Cash and other businesses, as well as a plaza across from Southern Park Mall where Elmo's Bras is located.

 

If someone is driving from Canfield, for example, to go to the Subway in his plaza, but can't make a left turn to get there, they'll go some place else to eat, he said.

 

"I feel this will deter business from Boardman," Cherney said after a steering committee meeting Tuesday on the U.S. Route 224 corridor study. "The limited access in and out of businesses, the restricting left turns and consolidating driveways will confuse the public."

 

 

 

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/365316883940833.php

 

From the 1/6/07 Youngstown Vindicator:

 

 

Looking at SR 11 area

The interchange study includes traffic counts and growth projections for the area.

By DENISE DICK

VINDICATOR STAFF WRITER

 

BOARDMAN — Another study within the larger U.S. Route 224 corridor study must be completed before the full report is done.

 

The Ohio Department of Transportation is conducting an interchange modification study at U.S. 224 and state Route 11 to ensure that the alternatives suggested for U.S. 224 won't negatively impact the interchange, said Maureen Bachman, an ODOT District 4 spokeswoman.

 

"The results will determine whether plans for U.S. 224 can move forward to design," she said.

 

The study will be done in the next several months, Bachman said.

 

The interchange modification study, or IMS, has to be approved by the Federal Highway Administration.

 

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/15692274232261.php

 

From the 1/13/07 Youngstown Vindicator:

 

 

MS Consultants to review options for Route 224

The review of the study would cost up to $5,900.

By DENISE DICK

VINDICATOR STAFF WRITER

 

BOARDMAN — Township trustees opted to hold off for now on a review that would make recommendations on the U.S. Route 224 corridor study.

 

Jason Loree, township administrator, asked trustees to consider asking MS Consultants, the township engineering company, to review the U.S. 224 study.

 

The study, funded by Ohio Department of Transportation and Eastgate Regional Council of Governments, is focused on the six-mile stretch of Route 224 from state Route 11 in Canfield to Interstate 680 in Poland. URS Consultants of Akron is conducting the $1 million study.

 

Although it's not required for the study to proceed, trustees were asked by Eastgate to submit their comments regarding the suggested alternatives.

 

 

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/289692682909146.php

 

From the 3/8/07 Youngstown Vindicator:

 

 

Route 224 island plan raises safety issues

By DENISE DICK

VINDICATOR STAFF WRITER

 

POLAND — A proposal from a community beautification group to install islands along a stretch of U.S. Route 224 raises safety concerns among some.

 

Poland Town One Streetscapes wants to place raised boulevards along Route 224 from Interstate 680 to state Route 170.

 

Larry Warren, president of the group, said aesthetic enhancement is the idea behind the plan.

 

"It would make it more appealing as you drive through that area," he said.

 

Each of the eight planned islands, or boulevards, would feature greenery and landscaping to soften the look of the well-traveled road.

 

 

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/339690980759570.php

 

From the 3/9/07 Youngstown Vindicator:

 

 

The Poland Village Planning Commission has not approved islands on U.S. Route 224...

 

The Poland Village Planning Commission has not approved islands on U.S. Route 224 from Interstate 680 to state Route 170. Incorrect information was provided to The Vindicator for a story in Thursday's edition.

 

Trumbull County's chief deputy, Ernie Cook, is not retiring, as was reported in Thursday's Vindicator. The story should have noted that Capt. Tom Stewart is considering retirement.

 

Verifiable errors, omissions and clarifications are handled here. If you believe the information in an article was incorrect, call the appropriate department heads at (330) 747-1471; Regional Desk, Ext. 1226; Social, Ext. 1282; Entertainment, Ext. 1236; Sports, Ext. 1292.

 

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/314489424163321.php

 

From the 3/21/07 Youngstown Vindicator:

 

 

Route 224 island plan draws crowd of critics

Most of those opposed talked about safety and access concerns.

By DENISE DICK

VINDICATOR STAFF WRITER

 

POLAND — Installation of islands along a portion of U.S. Route 224 would leave travelers stranded in a sea of danger and congestion, say some who oppose the plan.

 

About 60 people packed village council chambers Tuesday for a public forum/workshop on the proposal by Poland Town One Streetscapes to placed the raised boulevards along Route 224 from Interstate 680 to state Route 170.

 

Most attending indicated they oppose the plan because of safety or access.

 

When an emergency vehicle travels the road to reach a scene, either that emergency vehicle or the others traveling pull into the center lane to allow the emergency vehicle's passage, said Connie Coloutes, who owns a business along the road.

 

 

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/320083044702058.php

 

From the 3/28/07 Youngstown Vindicator:

 

 

Streestscapes drops Route 224 island idea

Streetscapes will focus on other plans instead, its president said.

By DENISE DICK

VINDICATOR STAFF WRITER

 

POLAND — Saying it was stirring divisiveness in the community, a beautification group has withdrawn its proposal to install islands in the center of U.S. Route 224.

 

J. Michael Thompson, chairman of the village planning commission, said that Town One Streetscapes withdrew its proposal at a planning commission meeting Tuesday.

 

"It was becoming apparent to us that it was getting to be pretty divisive," Larry Warren, Streetscapes president, said after the meeting.

 

Village council conducted a public workshop and forum on the proposal last week that drew about 60 people — most opposed the idea.

 

 

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/358169508214353.php

 

I was just driving down 224 through Boardman last week... It reminds me of portions of Colerain Ave in Cincinnati. If they had added those island streetscapes, it would be JUST like Colerain Ave from Galbraith to I-275. And wouldn't improve traffic flow