June 25, 200519 yr I was just around that area today and it was backing up onto the highway even on a saturday.
June 25, 200519 yr With $150 million going to Fields-Ertel interchange, I think a very real possibility would be a multi-level structure. I-71, Fields-Ertel, and Mason-Mont on their own levels, with direct connector ramps on another level. This would be a huge structure, but with the money planned and the amount of traffic, this would work the best for keeping traffic from backing up.
July 9, 200519 yr This could cause a disturbing trend. From the 7/9/05 Enquirer: Developers win court ruling Judge says Warren County can't scuttle subdivision By Tim Bonfield Enquirer staff writer HAMILTON TWP. - Developers of a 566-home subdivision here won a key court decision Friday in a case that had become a symbol of concern about controlling growth in Warren County. Barring an appeal, construction could begin as soon as this summer on the first homes on two large parcels near Mounts and Zoar roads, known as the Stotler properties, says Joe Trauth, attorney for the developers. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050709/NEWS01/507090380/1056/rss02
July 11, 200519 yr More on Bethany Rd. from the 7/11/05 Enquirer: Road plan in Mason protested By Jessica Brown Enquirer staff writer MASON - A group of residents along Bethany Road plans to attend today's City Council meeting to protest a proposed road-widening project here. "We're very against Bethany Road being used as a collector road," said Donna Seppelt, who lives in the Arbor Creek subdivision off the road. "It's not just about the widening, it's about why." http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050711/NEWS01/507110344/1056/rss02
July 11, 200519 yr ^ Oh well tough luck. The blacks protested when they drove I-75 and I-71 through the area and it didnt' stop it. So it's the Mcmansion's turn this time.
July 13, 200519 yr From the 7/13/05 Enquirer: More lanes for Bethany Rd. not popular with residents By Jessica Brown Enquirer staff writer MASON - When Barb Rojas and her husband moved to Warren County last July from Green Bay, Wis., they chose to settle on Bethany Road. The residential, two-lane road was quiet. It was in a good school district. It was exactly what they were looking for. Now a plan that could widen the street into an east-west connector in this southern Warren County community might send them house-hunting again. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050713/NEWS01/507130366/1056/rss02
July 13, 200519 yr ^"We talked to our Realtors about the possibilities for this road. We were told there were no plans. Six months later we read it was going to be a connecter route with 60,000 cars per day," she said I wonder if was on the Warren County thorofare plan? Usually they list classes of roads, and required R/W widths. Along frontage of subdivisions they are require to dedicate the width of R/W shown on the thorofare plan
July 13, 200519 yr Hmmm they don't know what the road would draw.. first it was 60k now it's down to 20k by 2020??
July 14, 200519 yr From the 7/14/05 Enquirer: County staffer's mission: Attract business By Janice Morse Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - Warren County leaders want to attract more businesses. They also want to forge stronger economic-development partnerships with other leaders in Greater Cincinnati. That's why they are poised to hire Kimm Coyner as economic development director. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050714/NEWS01/507140358/1056/news01
July 14, 200519 yr Attract business fro manother regoin not one county over. I hate the cat and mouse game."since they took something from us, lets take something from them approch"
July 21, 200519 yr From the 7/21/05 Dayton Daily News: Warren projected to near 500K in less than 2 decades By Kristin McAllister, Daniel Wells Cox News Service LEBANON | — Warren County's population will reach nearly 476,418 in 18 years, but roads, sewers and water cannot support the boom, according to a new report from a consultant hired by county commissioners. The anticipated growth would make the county nearly as big as neighboring Montgomery County, which has 550,063 residents, according to a 2004 estimate by the U.S. Census Bureau. http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/0721growth.html
July 21, 200519 yr Wow, that projection is a lot higher than that of the state's Office of Strategic Research, which projected 338,350 for the year 2030--that's 140,000 less and seven years later than this projection!
July 22, 200519 yr That would be ALOT of sprawl.It looks like I-71 will need to be 12 lanes to accomodate all of that.
July 24, 200519 yr I am sure this was taken out of context, but it is a pretty a-hole comment to make anyway. If the pic below represents the garden of eden, I will definitely stick with my Hamilton County home and neighborhood! "It looks like the Garden of Eden to someone who moved up from Hamilton County," said Gully, former administrator in Colerain Township. Growth monster on way Report confirms massive Warren Co. development By Janice Morse Enquirer staff writer Warren County's population would more than double, from 188,581 to 476,418 people if a house were to be built on every developable lot. Warren - already the second-fastest home-building county in Greater Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky - would find its schools, water, sewer and safety services cannot handle such a dramatic influx, a new analysis shows. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050724/NEWS01/507240383/1077/NEWS01
July 24, 200519 yr I totally disagree with Gully's comment. Warren County doesn't seem like a Garden of Eden to me, and it definitely won't to its residents in the not-too-distant future.
July 24, 200519 yr From the 7/24/05 Hamilton JournalNews: Transportation demands are breaking down political boundaries By Chris Dumond Butler County Bureau HAMILTON — As land development continues to spread along the Interstate-75 corridor, local transportation groups are increasingly focused on projects that will further tie Butler and Warren counties together. Those projects — such as the proposed construction of Liberty Interchange, widening of Bethany Road, Ohio 63 extension and interchange improvements and the Ohio 122 interchange — are fostering an enhanced sense of cooperation among cross-county communities. http://www.journal-news.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/07/24/HJN0724TRANSPORTATION_web.html
July 25, 200519 yr ^ Oh well tough luck. The blacks protested when they drove I-75 and I-71 through the area and it didnt' stop it. So it's the Mcmansion's turn this time. I see where you are coming from, should I bring the cheese?
July 25, 200519 yr The thing about that though, is that they won't even take too much of their properties away from them. There seems to be enough right of way to put a 6 lane blvd there with out taking 100s of home unlike the 1000's they took to send I-71 through the neighborhoods. Cincinnati never regained all of the lost family that I-71 and I-75 took away from the city. That's another reason why Cincinnati lost so, so many residents. They were all displaced.
July 25, 200519 yr I see where you are coming from but I don't think it is property loss that these people are upset about, it is a 6 lane highway that has them all worked up. I can hear it now, " I moved out to the country to get away from this and now it is in my backyard". - Ahh people you didn't move into the country, you moved into sprawlville and with that comes multilane roads to support car dependant sprawlville. These people are nothing but NIMBYS!
July 25, 200519 yr ^ Well, there will be plenty for the NIMBYs to bitch about because there's a pretty long list of projects! From the 7/25/05 Enquirer: Bethany Road widening foes target Warren Co. hearings Issue: Mason project would create a high-traffic connector By Jessica Brown Enquirer staff writer MASON - The public will have its last chance to weigh in on a controversial proposal to widen Bethany Road in Mason today and Tuesday in Lebanon. Residents are expected to have a lot to say. "They (project planners) don't have the residents' needs in mind," said Donna Seppelt, who lives in a subdivision off Bethany Road. "I don't think they're being very forthcoming to the public about the true intent for this road." http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050725/NEWS01/507250348/1056/rss02
July 26, 200519 yr It seems like this is a daily story. From the 7/26/05 Enquirer: Bethany Road widening debated Scaled-back Warren County project closer to reality By Jessica Brown The Enquirer LEBANON - A scaled-back Bethany Road widening project appeared closer to reality after more than 100 people voiced concerns at a public hearing Monday. "I personally killed the idea of a six-lane connector. There are 500 people who signed a petition tonight," said Warren County Commissioner Dave Young, who chairs the task force studying the road project. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050726/NEWS01/507260372/1056/rss02
July 26, 200519 yr I really get a kick out of these kinds of stories. They are so predictable. Start with farmland and a country road -> a few subdivisions with country feel off a country road -> lots of subdivisions that overcrowd the country road -> city wants to widen road to accommodate increased traffic -> bitch, bitch, bitch "I moved here for the fresh air, etc." -> road gets widened; by now the entire area is developed -> people start moving into new farmland. I have no sympathy for these NIMBYs, especially when the problem can be avoided by living in a neighborhood where the infrastructure is already adequate.
August 2, 200519 yr From the 7/27/05 Lebanon Western Star: New Web site to track Turtlecreek development Organizers hope to create a unified voice for residents Wednesday, July 27, 2005 Eastern Turtlecreek Twp. residents concerned about explosive development and major road improvements have a new resource to help keep track of what’s being planned for their part of the township. The creators of the new Web site www.eastsiders.org hope it will serve as a clearing house for information on the potential Lebanon bypass and the Joint Economic Development District proposed for the area around the I-71 and Ohio 123 interchange. http://www.western-star.com/hp/content/news/stories/2005/07/27/ws0728eastsiders.html
August 10, 200519 yr From the 8/10/05 Enquirer: PHOTO: Much of Western Row Road in Deerfield Township is two lanes and curvy. Officials are seeking extend, widen and straighten it, but homes are targeted. Photos by Glenn Hartong/The Enquirer PHOTO: Robert Steele, owner of one of four houses which sit in the path of the proposed extension of Western Row Road, said the project puts homeowners in limbo. Western Row Road extension opposed Four homes sit in path of long-term Warren plan By Jessica Brown Enquirer staff writer DEERFIELD TWP. - Is a road extension worth a couple of houses? It depends whom you ask. For some homeowners here, a project proposed by a Southwest Warren County Transportation Study that would extend Western Row Road east of Interstate 71 is fraught with problems - the biggest of which is that it would be built right through their houses. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050810/NEWS01/508100404/1056/rss02
August 13, 200519 yr More on the Lebanon Bypass, from the 8/11/05 Pulse-Journal: Mason supports Ohio 63 bypass But Turtlecreek Twp. against the proposal Thursday, August 11, 2005 The Lebanon bypass may not be off the table. Mason City Council passed a resolution 6-0 Monday asking the Southwest Warren County Transportation Study Task Force to make the Ohio 63 bypass around Lebanon a high priority. Councilman Tom Grossmann was absent. http://www.pulsejournal.com/hp/content/news/stories/2005/08/11/pj0811lebbypass.html
August 13, 200519 yr The Western Row plan is the latest to be protested. From the 8/13/05 Enquirer: Road project may hit roadblock Warren commissioners oppose Western Row plan By Jessica Brown Enquirer staff writer DEERFIELD TWP. - Opposition to a proposed road project here that residents say would destroy their quality of life is gaining steam as elected officials weigh in. Warren County Commissioner Michael Kilburn visited two community meetings Thursday night where residents discussed the proposed extension of Western Row Road. His stance: No way. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050813/NEWS01/508130413/1056/rss02
August 15, 200519 yr I am just baffled at the suburbanites who move to Southwest Warren County and complain about growth and traffic. "What the hell did you think?" When you don't offer alternative transportation, then lanes have to be expanded. I live off a 4 lane with turning lane (5 total) road and I am happy the road was expanded and done with before I moved here. It is an attractive road (well as attractive as a road could be) with bike paths and sidewalks. Because we live in a car dependant metro, we need the roads to be widened. It is that simple. We should have a "connector" that connects I-75 to I-71 which would relieve some of the traffic off I-275. Typical NIMBY’s!
August 16, 200519 yr Working in their downtown, I applaud Mason for taking the initiative to make their roads sufficient in carrying traffic in the current term, and making them look extremely nice. It's nice to know that my earning taxes are used to make a rather beautiful community. I only wish that other communities in Warren County would see the future, and not fight the growth that is to come, but rather accept it as reality and work to make sure that the infrastructure will accomodate it. Fighting the need for roads will only lead to gridlock, and I am sure that most everyone really does not want that.
August 16, 200519 yr ^ TraderJake, most of the residents aren’t trying to fight growth they are only thinking of themselves. Selfish suburbanites. Many of them live in a bubble. You work in Mason, I know you have seen it. Fighting growth in Warren County is a good thing. I am not against people moving to Warren County, but if they do and they buy a new house while doing it, then they should be hit with a $10,000 impact fee that would get placed into a account to help with roads and schools so prior property owners aren’t hit with the unneeded burden of new residents and new tax levy’s. The way around this would be to by a used house. Growth won't stop, if you cut it off totally you will only inflate the property value, plus the developers would sue the county till they spent ever last penny doing so. I will agree that Mason is better than most, if not all of the cities in Warren County. For one, they are incorporated and have a good plan for a suburban area. although the city leaders lost a lot of my respect when they decided to build the so called "Lifestyle Center" on 741 near King's Island. Glimcher, coined the development as giving Mason a sense of place… A glorified strip mall? Sense of place? Get the f*ck out of here. Mason should have rejected the zoning change that the developer wanted for a big box retail outlet on 741 and focused on its existing sense of place called "Downtown". While there are changes being made to downtown Mason in the form of the old Municipal Building, the city leaders are naive to think that the current downtown can be successful when you have a 500,000 sq ft, retail outlet down the road where everybody in their SUV, leaving their McMansions will be flocking too while the downtown continues to dwindle and people wonder why no one visits the downtown and people complain about the lack of parking because god forbid you actually have to walk. The best way Mason could revitalize their downtown is to model it after “Shady Side” in Pittsburgh. It is an upscale neighborhood that has mall related stores for today’s shopping needs. We don’t need another antique district in Mason. We have Lebanon for that. Here is a couple of photos of Shady Side:
August 16, 200519 yr I am just baffled at the suburbanites who move to Southwest Warren County and complain about growth and traffic. "What the hell did you think?" When you don't offer alternative transportation, then lanes have to be expanded. I live off a 4 lane with turning lane (5 total) road and I am happy the road was expanded and done with before I moved here. It is an attractive road (well as attractive as a road could be) with bike paths and sidewalks. Because we live in a car dependant metro, we need the roads to be widened. It is that simple. We should have a "connector" that connects I-75 to I-71 which would relieve some of the traffic off I-275. Typical NIMBYs! NTIHMYCHY!
August 19, 200519 yr From the 8/18/05 Enquirer: MULTIMEDIA • Map of Western Row extension (PDF) Trustees oppose road extension Western Row would run through Deerfield By Jessica Brown Enquirer staff writer DEERFIELD TWP. - More politicians are opposing a $30 million road project that would involve a new bridge across the Little Miami River. Deerfield Township trustees Tuesday passed a resolution opposing a project to extend Western Row Road as a six-lane thoroughfare through the township to connect to Fosters-Maineville Road. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050818/NEWS01/508180440/1077/rss02
August 21, 200519 yr I could've put this in this thread or the West Chester/Liberty thread, but this one seemed to be the better choice. From the 8/21/05 Hamilton JournalNews: Who pays for growth? Legislators, builders debate impact fees By Chris Dumond and Kristin McAllister, Cox News Service When 45,000 people move into Butler and Warren counties in less than five years, who pays to widen the highways to accommodate the new cars? Who pays to build new schools for new children? Debate over whether the burden should be borne by all taxpayers, landowners, builders and developers or the newcomers themselves is likely to be lively this fall when hearings on impact fee legislation begin in Columbus. http://www.journal-news.com/local/content/news/stories/2005/08/21/HJN0821IMPACT.html
August 24, 200519 yr From the 8/19/05 Enquirer: Warren County residents meet to learn about road projects By Jessica Brown Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - Scores of people from Mason, Deerfield Township and Hamilton Township are expected to gather at a meeting here today to learn which of several major Warren County road projects will make the final cut. About 20 projects totaling more than $300 million are being considered by a task force working on the Southwest Warren County Transportation Study. The 24-member task force was formed to find long-term solutions for the region's looming traffic problems. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050819/NEWS01/508190398/1056/rss02 From the 8/19/05 Enquirer: Western Row Rd. extension advances Project surprises some in Warren By Jessica Brown Enquirer staff writer HAMILTON TWP. - Hamilton Township trustees Wednesday decided not to formally oppose a proposed extension of Western Row Road. But some officials also say they were surprised the project was facing an important vote this week. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050819/NEWS01/508190397/1056/rss02 From the 8/19/05 Lebanon Western Star: No cross-county bypass, transportation group decides By Kristin McAllister Cox News Service Friday, August 19, 2005 LEBANON — Nearly two years after being asked to find ways to improve traffic through southwest Warren County, a task force met for the final time on Friday and recommended 19 projects but gave up on plans for a cross-county bypass. Instead, the group modified plans for widening Bethany Road and extending Western Row Road east. http://www.western-star.com/hp/content/news/stories/2005/08/19/ws0820roadprojects.html From the 8/20/05 Enquirer: Warren County roads panel adapts to public By Michael D. Clark Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - Public pressure swayed a regional transportation task force Friday to alter proposals for two controversial Warren County road projects. Petitions, phone calls and e-mails prompted the 24-member Southwest Warren County Transportation Study task force to reconsider its original recommendations to widen Bethany Road in Mason to as many as five lanes and to extend Western Row Road into Hamilton Township. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050820/NEWS01/508200369/1056/rss02
September 11, 200519 yr From the 9/11/05 Enquirer: Talks hit construction barrier Warren County, builders can't agree on impact fees By Jennifer Edwards Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - With Warren County's population expected to keep exploding, a long-running dispute over whether impact fees should be imposed on new home buyers has hit an impasse. County leaders have been trying to negotiate voluntary impact fees: money developers would pay to offset the costs of building schools, roads or other services, possibly in exchange for government agreements to take on responsibilities normally handled by developers. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050911/NEWS01/509110393/1056 From the 9/10/05 Enquirer: 300 homes planned in S. Lebanon Villages at Rivers Bend starts in the $170,000s By Jeff McKinney Enquirer staff writer A West Chester builder is planning 300 homes in South Lebanon geared to a mix of buyers ranging from young professionals to wealthy individuals. The development, the Villages at Rivers Bend, will include 30 luxury homes near the Little Miami River along Zoar Road about 2 miles east of Ohio 48. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050910/BIZ01/509100331/1076/rss01
September 11, 200519 yr From the 9/6/05 Pulse-Journal: Bethany Road project prompts lawsuit BETHANY GROCERY OWNER SAYS SHE WAS THREATENED BY COUNTY By Eric Schwartzberg The Pulse-Journal Tuesday, September 06, 2005 A lawsuit filed last week in U.S. District Court alleges the Butler County Engineer’s Office attempted to coerce a Liberty Twp. store owner into allowing a road through her property. The road, according to the lawsuit, would allow a competitor easier access to Cincinnati-Dayton Road. http://www.pulsejournal.com/news/content/news/stories/2005/09/06/pj0908lawsuit.html
September 12, 200519 yr Residents also fear the road would damage the river and erode the rural character of the land. Rural Character? LOL I know they can't be talking about Southwest Warren county.
September 17, 200519 yr From the 9/14/05 Enquirer: Law may help in handling growth By Janice Morse Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - A little-used Ohio law could help Warren and other developing counties handle growth better. Under the "new community districts" statute, developers of at least 1,000 acres in unincorporated areas may ask county commissioners to create a special district where property owners pay fees to fund public improvements. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050914/NEWS01/509140338/1056/rss02
September 26, 200519 yr From the 9/23/05 Enquirer: Warren Co. growth won't stop Commissioners told to handle it, not try to halt it By Janice Morse Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - Instead of focusing on slowing the county's potential growth, Warren County leaders say they realize they must move quickly to handle growth already mapped out. Sandra McKew, a Hudson, Ohio, consultant who spent a year studying Warren County's potential growth and demand for services, told county commissioners Thursday that they cannot stop an influx of 100,000 people - nearly half of them by 2010. That's based on housing developments that are already approved but not yet built. The county's population, now nearing 200,000, would approach 300,000 when those houses are constructed. In 18 years, the county's population could reach almost a half-million, McKew said. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050923/NEWS01/509230397/1056/rss02
October 6, 200519 yr All stories from the 9/29/05 Lebanon Western Star: Hamilton Twp., county prepare for continuing population boom Could reach more than 44,000 residents in the future Thursday, September 29, 2005 Warren County leaders are focusing on the need to prepare roads, sewers, water and emergency services for the inevitable continued growth. The county’s population is currently about 200,000, but is expected to reach 300,000 when all housing projects already approved are completed, according to a Warren County strategic study conducted by Hudson, Ohio, consultant Sandra McKew. In Hamilton Twp. alone, the existing population is estimated to be 14,196, but by 2010 that number will jump after 3,540 already approved new homes are constructed. By total build out sometime in the future, the population may be increased to 44,789, according to the county study. http://www.western-star.com/hp/content/news/stories/2005/09/29/ws0929hamlanduse.html Land use plan includes resident surveys Public opinion to be included as part of Hamilton Twp. future Thursday, September 29, 2005 Officials here want results of a public opinion survey to be considered in the development of Hamilton Twp.’s latest land-use plan and map. But will more than 700 opinions matter? The question was posed to trustees and members of an advisory committee charged with updating land use documents. A committee of township development interests was selected by trustees that began a process in January to define the future of Warren County’s fastest growing community. http://www.western-star.com/hp/content/news/stories/2005/09/29/ws0929hamlandsurvey.html
October 7, 200519 yr To give a people an idea where Hamilton Twp is It's about 3 miles north of the Little Miami River, straggling Rt 22/3. I drove up to morrow the other day and i was amazed what has happend to that area. Prettey soon, if not already it will be totally urbanized between morrow and Downtown on Rt22/3(Montgomery Rd). That's a distance of over 30 miles to the northeast.
October 7, 200519 yr Hamilton Co. may spur Warren County growth Old Loveland pact helping to install sewer lines By Kevin Osborne Enquirer staff writer LOVELAND - A 20-year-old legal agreement is causing Hamilton County to foot part of the bill for installing sewers that will spark new home construction in Warren County. As Hamilton County officials desperately try to stem the flow of residents moving to adjacent counties, commissioners recently learned they must pay $225,000 to help install a sewer line in Warren County. The larger sewer will accommodate construction of 119 houses in a section of Loveland in Warren County. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051007/NEWS01/510070394/1056/NEWS0103
October 12, 200519 yr OKI to review road projects list Some opposed in Deerfield, Hamilton Twp. and Mason By Jessica Brown Enquirer staff writer A list of Warren County road projects, including some that have generated controversy in the booming Mason, Deerfield Township and Hamilton Township suburbs, are up for approval Thursday by the Ohio-Kentucky-Indiana Regional Council of Governments. If adopted by the board of trustees, the 19 projects totaling more than $300 million will be factored into OKI's regional plan, helping them become eligible for federal funding in the future. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051012/NEWS01/510120365/1056/news01
October 13, 200519 yr Extend Western Row Road southeast and across the Little Miami River to connect with Fosters-Maineville Road. This would be a six-lane road. The task force earlier stipulated that the new road could not cut through housing subdivisions. Cost: $43 million. Widen U.S. 22/Ohio 3 one lane in each direction between Columbia Road and Ohio 48. Cost: $43.9 million. For some reason i can see the Siera Club coming down on these. That's two bridges over the Little Miami.
October 14, 200519 yr Warren County transit plan wins OKI nod Board approves 19 recommendations By Dan Klepal Enquirer staff writer A new transportation plan for southwest Warren County took a step forward Thursday when 19 recommendations were unanimously approved by the Ohio-Kentucky-Indiana Regional Council of Governments. But the plan still has miles to go before the first yard of asphalt is laid. Two years in the making, the Southwest Warren County Transportation Study puts its recommendations, which would cost $305 million, into high, medium and low priorities. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051014/NEWS01/510140394/1056
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