March 12, 200520 yr I wonder how areas like Atlanta and PHX can handle 110k new residents and warren county can't even handle 20k a year.
March 13, 200520 yr I wonder how areas like Atlanta and PHX can handle 110k new residents and warren county can't even handle 20k a year. Huh? Unusual I don't get you sometimes. You always seem to defend the sprawly cities.
March 13, 200520 yr I mean how else they expect to get more money from the federal government? We area donar state anyway. We're not getting our full share. so more money should come into the area to help fund sewers, schools, roads etc. Why allow places like ATL and PHX to get the money sooner than us. So what they are growing fast, but we and Ohio have been neglected for MANY years. Let Warren grow to about 400k it still won't be as bad as it is in them other metro's.
March 13, 200520 yr Schools, Roads, etc.. it cost more money then the residents that move in provide in taxes. While Warren County will continue to grow, it is trying to control it more. Since I moved here in June of 2003 I am being faced with taxes being raised in this springs election. I am not talking about a $100 or $200 per home, I am talking $400 per home valued at $100K so if you have a $200K house your taxes will go up $800 a year which is absolutely crazy. It would take my annual property taxes from $2600 to around $3400 a year. Yes the root of this is Taft. He has continued to cut funding for many things including Ohio public schools. He is the root of all evil in this state. I get notices in the mail to help pay for for paper and worksheets at $40 and we provided the school with the typical glue stick, pencils, scissors, etc... and now they are coming to us for more supplies. When I ask the school what is going on, they blame funding. My question is if Taft is cuting funding on everything, where is the rest of the money going? I am not asking for pitty. I made my own bed by moving to Mason. It is one of the fastest growing cities in the state and with an annual increase of 650 students a year to each school, they can't keep up. They could do what places like Phoenix and Atlanta do and just line up trailer after trailer in the playground and teach there but they aren't and let me tell you I lived through that and it sucked. Going to Junior High and High School in Florida I had many classes in trailers - it sucked. Another way they do it in the sun belt states is cut programs. Mason has for example, a gymnastics team. We didn't have sports like that in my school growing up. Many schools here have hockey, lacrosse teams, again in Florida none of that existed.
March 17, 200520 yr I find this stuff fascinating! From the 3/17/05 Enquirer: Effort to slow Warren growth loses first test Magistrate rolls back denial of subdivision; legal fight not over By Erica Solvig Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - Hamilton Township landowners, who sued Warren County planners and County Commissioner Mike Kilburn for blocking a large development on their land, won their appeal this week. A Common Pleas magistrate's decision reverses the Regional Planning Commission's denial of two subdivision plans and allows 570 homes to be built in the township. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050317/NEWS01/503170377/1056/news01
March 17, 200520 yr How does California handle this crap? It seems Warren County is trying... I would like to hear what other people think about this.
March 17, 200520 yr You know what I haven't been to Silverton or Deer Park in years. I think that they'll get their time to shine soon enough.
March 18, 200520 yr I dunno, unusualfire...you're comparing apples to oranges because Silverton and Deer Park are already built out.
March 18, 200520 yr you're wrong silverton has alot of land east of i-71 that can be developed with high density housing or a scraper or 2.;) and along plainfield and woodford road. I live there.;)
March 18, 200520 yr ^ You're right...I always forget about that strip along I-71. A scraper? Nah. Would be great for office or industrial use, though...
March 19, 200520 yr ^ Topography issues. It would be costly. And it is not lots o land. Silverton and Deer Park are built out. That is the exception.
March 19, 200520 yr OMG Warren County is close to getting density what's next diversity and then OMG soulful suburbs.
March 19, 200520 yr There is room in silverton trust me. I would have to show pics sometime to let you know what i mean. Of course a couple of homes would have to be sold to make all the acre available.
March 21, 200520 yr From the 3/20/05 Enquirer: Warren County's growth plans taking shape slowly, if at all By Erica Solvig Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - Halfway through Warren County's growth moratorium, efforts to control rapid home-building in the region's fastest growing county are stalled. A Columbus attorney is still reviewing proposed changes to subdivision regulations, months after votes were expected. County planners recently lost a court battle with developers who have challenged the county's anti-growth stance. And the county's comprehensive growth management plan still isn't done. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050320/NEWS01/503200388/-1/back01
March 25, 200520 yr A smaller subdivision has been allowed for Turtlecreek Twp....from the 3/25/05 Enquirer: Planners approve 155 homes Warren County planners on Thursday approved the smaller part of a controversial Turtlecreek Township subdivision. The Regional Planning Commission's 7-6 vote to approve 155 homes in the proposed Valley View Farms subdivision comes a month after the commission denied 588 lots in the same area. Some Turtlecreek Township residents fought the subdivision, stating concerns such as increased traffic issues off Greentree Road. Several residents suggested Thursday that the additional homes would be reason for them to leave the area. Township officials still have to approve the site plans. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050325/NEWS01/503250384/1056/news01
April 13, 200520 yr Warren roads need help By Erica Solvig Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - Another $156.7 million worth of proposed road improvements are getting added to the list of highway and connector projects growing Warren County needs to handle traffic. The list includes widening many major roads in the southern part of the county and increasing the width of Bethany and Socialville-Fosters roads to six lanes. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050409/NEWS01/504090369/-1/all
April 13, 200520 yr nice. lets spend nearly half a billion dollars, and with certain budget overruns etc., we're lookin at about the same cost as what it would of been to get rail (even though the ballot called for 2 billion, but that was also for all new bus routes, bus stops, etc.). and the sad thing is the same law makers that won't think twice about giving the public funds for this project are the same ones that don't want rail. why doesn't half a billion in new highway funds ever go on the ballot?
April 23, 200520 yr From the 4/22/05 Enquirer: Warren Co. commissioners step up anti-growth campaign By Dan Sewell Enquirer staff writer TURTLECREEK TWP. - New residents are still pouring into Warren County at "mind-boggling" rates, adding to the urgency to bring growth under control, county commissioners say. "This thing has gotten serious," Commissioner Mike Kilburn said. "We've got to slow down. It has to happen." http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050422/NEWS01/504220409/1056/rss02
April 27, 200520 yr I think i talked about Bethany road before, but i didn't think this was would happen. Six-lane highway plan angers area's residents By Erica Solvig Enquirer staff writer MASON - The idea of turning residential Bethany Road into a six-lane connector between Interstates 71 and 75 has irked residents and turned them into activists. They've formed a small, but growing ad hoc group to fight the concept. And this week they're going door-to-door asking fellow neighbors to join their fight by asking one simple question: Do you think the two-lane entrance to your subdivision should be Warren County's next mini-highway?
April 29, 200520 yr A $1,400 impact fee? Big deal. From the 4/29/05 Enquirer: Warren planners OK new subdivision By Dan Sewell Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - Warren County planning officials gave a go-ahead Thursday for a new subdivision. Its developer will donate land for an elementary school for the crowded Little Miami district and also will voluntarily pay impact fees. County Commissioner Mike Kilburn was the lone dissenting vote, saying he "can't in good conscience" approve any new residential developments in the school district. "You can't put 10 pounds into a five-pound bag." http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050429/NEWS01/504290426/1056/rss02
April 29, 200520 yr $1,400 impact fee? They won't slow down growth until it is at least $10,000 per lot.
May 1, 200520 yr Yet I see nothing about the northbound connector of Tylersville/Western Row and I-71. You can only go south.
May 4, 200520 yr NIMBY'S OUT IN FULL FORCE! Six-lane Bethany draws criticism By Erica Solvig Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - A couple hundred residents responded Tuesday to a slew of proposed road projects, though the vast majority of them came to protest widening Bethany Road in Mason. "You're talking about an area that's already developed," Mason resident Jim Shafer said.
May 4, 200520 yr These will be the same people that will complain that they can't even back out of their drive way. Most people don't even think of the future. Everyone living in that area now will not be in the same home 30 years from now. Just use the 350 million to pay for their portion of light rail to Kings Island.
May 11, 200520 yr From the 5/11/05 Enquirer: I-71 interchange idea may die Task force may drop Mason-Morrow-Millgrove plan By Erica Solvig Enquirer staff writer Warren County transportation consultants have touted Mason-Morrow-Millgrove Road in Union Township as the prime spot for a new Interstate 71 interchange. But now, with opposition mounting from nearby Mason residents and studies showing it won't help solve traffic woes in this region, that $13 million proposal may come off the table. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050511/NEWS01/505110390/1056/rss02
May 12, 200520 yr From the 5/12/05 Enquirer: Builders: Yes to meeting, no to fees By Erica Solvig Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - What was planned as a peace summit between home builders and Warren County commissioners may turn into a showdown over impact fees. Commissioners had pledged a Friday meeting would be a chance for developers, elected leaders and school officials to brainstorm ways to pay for the public costs of residential growth. Their hope for years has been to impose an impact fee as high as $10,000 per new home to help pay for roads, parks and schools that growing communities demand. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050512/NEWS01/505120394/1056/rss02
May 14, 200520 yr From the 5/14/05 Enquirer: Group chews on impact fees Warren Co. task force wrestles with proposed builders costs By Jennifer Edwards Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - One of the hottest issues in Warren County - imposing impact fees on home builders - is unresolved, but officials on both sides remain optimistic a solution can be found. The Impact Fee Task Force, a 15-member group, met Friday and discussed concerns about crowded schools amid tidy rows of homes that seem to appear overnight, horse and buggy-like paths where four-lane highways are needed, and voters who eschew higher taxes. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050514/NEWS01/505140380/1056/rss02
May 27, 200520 yr From the 5/27/05 Dayton Daily News: Group trying to slow growth in Warren County By Kristin McAllister Dayton Daily News LEBANON | The Warren County Regional Planning Commission on Thursday approved changes to the county's subdivision regulations intended to slow residential growth in what some argue is an invitation to lawsuits, but what others describe as a long overdue move. The changes integrate new standards into the early planning of all proposed subdivisions and prohibit those projects from creating a "congestion of population." http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/0527commish.html
May 31, 200520 yr From the 5/31/05 Dayton Daily News: Warren County in midst of traffic tangle Roads not built to carry volume By Kristin McAllister Dayton Daily News LEBANON | Rural communities in Warren County — like Turtlecreek Twp. in the northwest and Hamilton Twp. to the south — struggle with the fast increase of traffic along their two-lane country roads built for agriculture and not suburban commuter use. As a result, drivers of large farm equipment share these roads with homeowners headed to work, schools and shopping. http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/0531countryroads.html
June 4, 200520 yr From the 6/4/05 Enquirer: Impact fees called 'divisive' Expert: Get creative in recouping growth's costs By Dan Sewell Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - An expert on financing roads, schools and other public projects told Warren County leaders Friday that charging impact fees on home builders isn't the only way to pay the costs of explosive growth. Other types of creative financing options, such as special tax districts, revenue bonds and municipal leases, could serve as alternatives, said Janet Corcoran, a Harvard-educated consultant and a former vice president of Financial Guaranty Insurance Co. and GE Capital. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050604/NEWS01/506040380/1056/rss02
June 6, 200520 yr From the 6/6/05 Enquirer: Unusual joint tax district weighed Employees wary in Turtlecreek By Jennifer Edwards Enquirer staff writer TURTLECREEK TWP. - Efforts to recruit more businesses to build near a highly visible highway interchange in Turtlecreek Township soon could come with an unusual string attached - the people who work there may wind up paying a 1 percent earnings tax. Officials from Turtlecreek Township and the city of Lebanon have worked for two years to form a joint economic development district on 301 acres that span all four corners of the interchange at Interstate 71 and Ohio 123. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050606/NEWS01/506060348/1056/rss02
June 8, 200520 yr hmm I wonder, if someone desided to buy some land in the eastern rural part of the county, would they have to pay impact fee's too?
June 8, 200520 yr More on the Bethany Rd. plan from the 6/8/05 Enquirer: Bethany Road meeting gets hot at times Farmers protest bypass idea By Jennifer Edwards Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - A public forum Tuesday that was supposed to soothe neighbors upset over the proposed Bethany Road widening erupted into a shouting match at times as farmers to the north complained their land might now be used for a connector road linking Interstates 71 and 75. Local residents have loudly criticized a proposal to expand Bethany Road in Mason from two lanes to six, and now the road may be widened to just four lanes, planners said during Tuesday's session on the Southwest Warren County Transportation Study. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050608/NEWS01/506080394/1056/news01
June 10, 200520 yr From the 6/10/05 Enquirer: Warren Co. lifts sewer moratorium Until treatment plant is expanded, all connections to county system will be reviewed By Jennifer Edwards Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - Warren County leaders Thursday lifted a controversial sewer-connection moratorium, but still are keeping a reign on growth by capping the number of new homes annually in some areas. The cap will stay until a wastewater treatment plant is expanded. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050610/NEWS01/506100399/1056
June 12, 200520 yr I can't see the government willing to spend the amount of money it will take to buy property along Bethany Rd. Homes around there are 300,000+, and a 6 lane freeway would require way to much right-of-way. I can see a connector north of Bethany, between Kyles Station and highway 63 in Monroe. Or Butler and Warren counties could just upgrade Tylersville, mainly adding turn lanes and maybe some bus stops because anywhere north of I-275 has basically zero suburb to suburb buses.
June 13, 200520 yr ^ it will not be a limited access highway like I-75. It will be like a blvd with stop lights. Like Victory parkway. So that requires less right of way and there is room for that without taking out any homes.
June 13, 200520 yr I understand that, but there are many subdivisions and I can't see the possibility of putting a huge road between the developments. I can see a 71-75 connector north, near Monroe, off of 63. This seems like a better idea. Sprawl will continue to happen, and we should put a connector in now, and not wait until all the land is homes.
June 13, 200520 yr cincybearcat, I think the OH-63 idea is all but dead unless they can find some money.
June 13, 200520 yr From the 6/13/05 Enquirer: PHOTO: Neighbors opposed to a proposed Lebanon bypass gather amid the feed corn on Don and Martha Paige's 50-acre farm in Turtlecreek Township. Martha is second from left in the second row from the front; Don is on the right in the back row. The Enquirer/Glenn Hartong A Lebanon bypass? Not in their cornfield Turtlecreek Township residents opposed to interstate connector By Jennifer Edwards Enquirer staff writer TURTLECREEK TWP. - Something new is growing these days amid the rows of soybeans, corn and wheat lining this Warren County community. Outrage. As county leaders struggle with relentless residential growth, they say they must find ways to ease traffic congestion. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050613/NEWS01/506130349/1056/rss02
June 15, 200520 yr An update on that Turtlecreek Twp. tax idea from the 6/15/05 Enquirer: Turtlecreek Twp. waits on tax district By Jennifer Edwards Enquirer staff writer TURTLECREEK TWP. - After several residents spoke late Monday against a new kind of taxing district proposed here, trustees held off giving the idea the green light. Two years ago, Lebanon city officials approached Turtlecreek Township trustees about forming a joint economic development district for 301 acres at the Interstate 71/Ohio 123 interchange. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050615/NEWS01/506150390/1056/news01
June 18, 200519 yr Hmm...this on the same day that it was announced that 634 homes will be built at Shaker Run in Turtlecreek Twp. Anyway, growth is slowing slightly. From the (Lebanon) Western Star, 6/17/05: Warren housing starts strong, but down from 2004 By Cox News Service New home construction is still booming in Butler and Warren counties, just not as loudly as last year, according to statistics released Thursday by the Home Builders Association of Greater Cincinnati. Despite issuing roughly double the permits of neighboring Hamilton and Clermont counties, building permits issued for single-family homes in Butler and Warren counties through the end of May are down compared to last year — 2.8 percent in Butler County and 9.5 percent in Warren County. http://www.western-star.com/hp/content/news/stories/2005/06/17/ws0617housingstarts.html
June 21, 200519 yr From the 6/20/05 Enquirer: Lebanon Bypass has some fuming Plan rips too many farms, critics say By Jennifer Edwards Enquirer staff writer TURTLECREEK TWP. - Neighbors and trustees in this rustic Warren County community are so upset over a proposed four-lane bypass cutting through several farms that the project may be shelved. The proposed Lebanon Bypass, which would link Interstates 75 and 71 via Ohio 63 and Ohio 48, is one of nearly 20 projects totaling $350 million listed as potential priorities of the Southwest Warren County Transportation Study. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050620/NEWS01/506200344/1056/rss02
June 22, 200519 yr From the 6/22/05 Enquirer: Sewer fees may boost home prices Builders expected to pass along costs in Warren County By Jennifer Edwards Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - Prices of new homes in Warren County will likely go up to pay for the expansion of a sewer plant needed to accommodate growth. In a unanimous vote Tuesday, the Warren County Commission approved a gradual increase for sewer connections for new developments: from $2,400 to $2,800 per home starting next month; $3,200 in 2006; and $3,600 in 2007. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050622/NEWS01/506220407/1056/rss02
June 22, 200519 yr From the 6/22/05 Enquirer: Lebanon Bypass passes by New route would avoid farms, use roads By Jennifer Edwards Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - After a public uproar, controversial plans for a four-lane bypass southwest of this Warren County city that would cut through or near hundreds of acres of farmland were scrapped Tuesday. In the second public forum over the proposed Lebanon Bypass, Warren County officials announced that the road, if it is built, will not cut through farms on or near Keever Road. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050622/NEWS01/506220399/1056/rss02
June 25, 200519 yr From the 6/25/05 Enquirer: Fields Ertel interchange top Warren Co. road fix By Jennifer Edwards Enquirer staff writer LEBANON - One of the region's worst bottlenecks - the Fields Ertel Road interchange with Interstate 71 - topped a list drafted Friday for $350 million in traffic improvements in fast-growing Warren County. Improving the Fields Ertel interchange, where cars routinely back up onto the highway during rush hours, was one of 16 road projects on a priority list set by a task force working on the Southwest Warren County Transportation Study. The yet-to-be-designed interchange improvements could cost more than $150 million, officials said. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050625/NEWS01/506250412/1077/rss02
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