December 22, 20204 yr 33 minutes ago, DEPACincy said: Oh gotcha. I thought you meant that Scholar House should redevelop it as an add on to their project. But you just mean don't touch it and come up with a plan for the future. I definitely think that idea should be brought up at community council. Exactly. Don't touch it. Come up with a plan for the future. And I should add: PAR is already moving forward an Arts Complex for the neighborhood and my suggestions here are not invalidating what they have going on. I'm they type of person who will fight for everything we can get in the way of community benefits.
December 28, 20204 yr One of the new houses on Apjones just went live with a new listing showing off all of the interior choices https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1685866/1320-Apjones-St-Northside-OH-45223 a lot of... Choices on display here. I wouldn't be so judgmental about it except for the fact that it costs nearly half a million dollars. Who wants to spend almost half a million dollars on a freestanding house in Cincinnati that doesn't have room to comfortably seat six+ adults around a dining table?
December 28, 20204 yr To me, that just seems like a bad furniture choice... It seems like you could fit a larger table with 6 chairs in that space comfortably. However it does seem like a lot of money for a house of this size in this location, right next to the industrial section of Northside and 1/2 mile walk to Hamilton Avenue.
December 28, 20204 yr 3 minutes ago, taestell said: However it does seem like a lot of money for a house of this size in this location, right next to the industrial section of Northside and 1/2 mile walk to Hamilton Avenue. also the first floor has a real paucity of natural light! I think they're banking on people willing to pay a premium for a newly built home in Northside with an interior garage.
December 28, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, northsider said: also the first floor has a real paucity of natural light! I think they're banking on people willing to pay a premium for a newly built home in Northside with an interior garage. I think they'll have to come down a bit on the price but I imagine there's a market for this. Not a lot of new construction homes in Northside so there's not a ton of competition.
December 28, 20204 yr So now prints of the self-portraits of that commie Frida Kahlo are being used to sell infill to well-capitalized buyers.
December 28, 20204 yr Then again, someone was able to take a house someone was murdered in and flip it for $400,000. Meanwhile, my identical house next door sold a year or so before for $139,000. I still can't believe Northside is becoming that hot of a neighborhood so quickly.
December 29, 20204 yr 17 hours ago, seicer said: I still can't believe Northside is becoming that hot of a neighborhood so quickly. It's becoming the type of neighborhood that has business names like "Morsel & Nosh" and "For Goodness Shakes & Juicery."
December 29, 20204 yr OMG, I had to look up that Morsel & Nosh to see if it was a joke. I...don't...uh... "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
December 29, 20204 yr On 12/22/2020 at 10:45 AM, Chas Wiederhold said: It doesn't cost a dime to not tear down the building. You do likely increase remediation cost due to the proximity of the new construction which does include a daycare.
December 29, 20204 yr come to think of it, it doesn't take a dime to "not" put a 4 lane street on a diet. viva la grassie
December 29, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, GCrites80s said: Now that is peak Hipster-Lite! All post-hipster is hipster-lite. Twitter, etc., redirected the real-world performance of the hipster into an online persona, making the real world a backdrop for the virtual. Music doesn't matter anymore because you can't hear music on Instagram.
December 30, 20204 yr On 12/28/2020 at 3:49 PM, taestell said: To me, that just seems like a bad furniture choice... It seems like you could fit a larger table with 6 chairs in that space comfortably. However it does seem like a lot of money for a house of this size in this location, right next to the industrial section of Northside and 1/2 mile walk to Hamilton Avenue. Its not just a bad dining room table choice. I think the whole of the staging is of poor taste. Maybe its just not my style, but a lot of the decor seems bulky, cheap and obtrusive. Not indicative of how someone would actually live in the house. While it is priced high currently, I believe it will sell for close to asking price if it had hit the market in the spring. They might take a lower offer to unload it in the winter months, but I would speculate it would not sell for lower than 420k. Probably closer to 430k. ApJones is a pretty interesting street, it kinda has a neighborhood within a neighborhood feel to it. On related news : 4247 Mad Anthony sold recently for close to 200k as an unfinished on the inside, yet mostly finished on the outside shell. https://goo.gl/maps/cc8ympjKfvM4Mg977 This house had been sitting as a work in progress for years. Just stalled while trying to sell FSBO. They are currently working on a wrap around porch.
December 30, 20204 yr 23 hours ago, jmecklenborg said: All post-hipster is hipster-lite. Twitter, etc., redirected the real-world performance of the hipster into an online persona, making the real world a backdrop for the virtual. Music doesn't matter anymore because you can't hear music on Instagram. Did you eat at Nihilist Arby's yesterday?
December 30, 20204 yr 2 minutes ago, NsideProp said: On related news : 4247 Mad Anthony sold recently for close to 200k as an unfinished on the inside, yet mostly finished on the outside shell. https://goo.gl/maps/cc8ympjKfvM4Mg977 This house had been sitting as a work in progress for years. Just stalled while trying to sell FSBO. They are currently working on a wrap around porch. Speaking of Mad Anthony, Nest will be developing the corner of Chase and Mad Anthony with a single-family market rate LEED certified home in 2021. I believe they are at the end of the design phase with a spring construction start date.
January 11, 20214 yr Northside community developer acquires key parcel Northsiders Engaged in Sustainable Transformation, the Cincinnati neighborhood’s community development organization, has acquired a key piece of property at the entrance to its business district. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/01/11/northside-community-developer-acquires-key-parcel.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 11, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: Northside community developer acquires key parcel Northsiders Engaged in Sustainable Transformation, the Cincinnati neighborhood’s community development organization, has acquired a key piece of property at the entrance to its business district. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/01/11/northside-community-developer-acquires-key-parcel.html So what would we like to see here? I would really like some residential on the upper floors but I don't know how many people will want to live so close to the Ludlow Viaduct.
January 11, 20214 yr It does not seem that he parcel comes with any parking. Am correct in I assuming that under current zoning, any use would need a variance? It is currently zoned Commercial Community-Mixed but didn't think there were any options under the current zoning code that does not feature parking minimums. With the Transit Center so close, it'd be a great TOD, if only it was safer or easier to cross the street.
January 11, 20214 yr Each floor on this building is much smaller than it appears because of its peculiar trapezoidal shape.
January 11, 20214 yr 8 hours ago, DEPACincy said: So what would we like to see here? Is there demand for office space in Northside? With the odd shape, and position close to such a busy road... seems like a non-residential use would be ideal.
January 18, 20214 yr Scholar House development could bring dozens of apartments to Northside Urban Sites, Cincinnati Union Bethel and the Cincinnati Metropolitan Housing Authority are planning a 45- to 55-unit apartment building for single parents seeking higher education at the 4-acre site of a warehouse in Northside. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/01/18/scholar-house-apartment-development-planned-for-no.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 26, 20214 yr This is the apartment that used to have the cat that hung out in the window all of the time. Now it's getting deep into January with its Christmas lights still fighting the fight.
January 26, 20214 yr There was talk when quarantine hit for people to leave their Xmas lights up and on all year to cheer people up but since it was March I don't think people felt like going out there and putting them back up so soon. Plus March weather is way worse than November. I've seen quite a few houses that left them up after Xmas this year. My neighbors across the street still have theirs on as we speak.
January 26, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, GCrites80s said: There was talk when quarantine hit for people to leave their Xmas lights up and on all year to cheer people up but since it was March I don't think people felt like going out there and putting them back up so soon. Plus March weather is way worse than November. I've seen quite a few houses that left them up after Xmas this year. My neighbors across the street still have theirs on as we speak. My iphone 5 doesn't do the LED Ho Ho Ho justice.
March 15, 20214 yr On March 22, the Historic Conservation Board will review PLK's proposal for 1601 Blue Rock. The HCB packet hasn't been released, but from the agenda: Quote The applicant requests a COA to construct a residential development at the intersection of Blue Rock & Hamilton, including 57 residential units within 2 principal structures in the Northside NBD Historic District. Additionally, the applicant requests approval for numerical variances for 2 structures on 1 lot and density, front and side yard setbacks, building height, special exceptions for buffer yards & front yard parking, & a locational variance for refuse storage areas.
May 5, 20214 yr Business Courier: Developer pauses Northside apartment project that has turned controversial Quote PLK Communities is shelving for now a 57-unit workforce apartment project in Northside, citing sky-high lumber costs that make the project financially untenable at this time, a company official told the Business Courier.
May 7, 20214 yr Row house project planned for Northside An experienced developer is planning a rowhouse project in Northside in a historic, vacant building not far from the neighborhood business district. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/05/07/townhome-project-planned-for-northside.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 11, 20214 yr I used to walk by this going to the Tavern from my old house and it was active then but just barely. I remember one night coming home (quite drunk) and finding a guy knocked out on the street in front of this place which was followed by a few gun shots about 10 minutes later. The place was abandoned not long after.
May 13, 20214 yr I run past this place almost every day. It will be nice to see it redeveloped. I'm glad they are keeping the commercial space commercial and not converting it to another unit.
May 13, 20214 yr Yes, its certainly interesting that the commercial space will be kept. Its hard to imagine what would do well there. They will only have 2 parking spots off street. I guess a small coffee shop or something. The same developer who is doing the Row House conversion recently sold 1320 ApJones for just under 450k and 1318 ApJones for nearly 460k. https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1656712/1318-Apjones-Street-Northside-OH-45223
June 4, 20214 yr Northside apartment complex to get incentives, renamed for key figure in landmark court case A $12 million Northside apartment complex being marketed to elderly LGBTQ people received tax incentives from the Cincinnati City Council today on a unanimous vote. The John Arthur Flats, 4145 Apple St., will receive a 67% property tax abatement. The project, formerly known as Apple Street Senior, is being named after John Arthur, the late husband of the Cincinnatian who brought the historic case to the U.S. Supreme Court that legalized same-sex marriage in the United States. Philadelphia-based Pennrose development and Northsiders Engaged in Sustainable Transformation will co-own the project. Arthur was married to Jim Obergefell, the plaintiff in the landmark Obergefell v. Hodges U.S. Supreme Court case in 2015. Obergefell, who married Arthur in Maryland, brought suit after the state of Ohio would not recognize their marriage on Hodges death certificate. “John had dreams of doing something grand to benefit Cincinnati but was never able to do that because of his ALS diagnosis,” Obergefell said in a prepared statement. “NEST has made John’s dream come true, and I’m confident he would be honored to be remembered in this way, especially when this project benefits the oft-overlooked community of LGBTQ+ elders." Full article below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/06/03/northside-apartment-development-to-get-incentives.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
August 6, 20213 yr the old Save-A-Lot is completely gone! Prepping the site for Apple Street Senior is well underway.
August 12, 20213 yr Great to see others neighborhoods adding outdoor dining, this was in the city planning packet. Looks like urban artifact/wild fire pizza is adding a patio on blue rock street. https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/about-city-planning/city-planning-commission/Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
August 13, 20213 yr Something I have always wondered but never to bothered to look up: why is Blue Rock so wide for that 1 block? I'm guessing it must have been some sort of streetcar turnaround or layover point back in the day?
August 13, 20213 yr According to the 1891 Sanborn: space for a market house. I haven't found anything about it yet (just a loose search), and from the way it's worded, it was space for a facility, not that it actually existed. Edited August 13, 20213 yr by seicer
August 13, 20213 yr 11 hours ago, seicer said: According to the 1891 Sanborn: space for a market house. I haven't found anything about it yet (just a loose search), and from the way it's worded, it was space for a facility, not that it actually existed. I could see there being a seasonal market house there. Churches and the nearby cemeteries and the surrounding area used to be the place to hang out and have town gatherings.
August 23, 20213 yr I shared this on twitter a while ago, just for my own exercise. I heard from several community members that the transportation department had very recently rebuilt the street in its current (strange) configuration and it is unlikely that they would rethink it again so soon.
August 23, 20213 yr According to some folks with a lot of familiarity with neighborhood history there was indeed a market house there at one time. Not sure when it ceased to exist.
October 8, 20213 yr Foundation completely done on Apple Street Seniot, and most of the walls for first floor have already been roughed out! this is really going quickly. (this is an older photo from a week ago or so - way more has been built out since then) Edited October 8, 20213 yr by northsider
January 20, 20223 yr Urban Sites, Over-the-Rhine Community Housing, and New Republic Architects just hosted a virtual design charette with folks on the Northside Community Council mailing list about the future of the Ace Doran Site. Not every neighborhood welcomes affordable housing, but Northside demands it. Hoffner Park, transit center, business district makes site appealing to Urban Sites. Here are some of my notes from the meeting: Timeline Currently owned by PLK. Since PLK bought site, the community expressed preference for high quality affordable housing, and they are working on an agreement with Urban Sites; if US successfully is awarded LITHC funding, PLK will sell. PLK is looking to develop on Cherry and Cooper Streets and is supportive of Urban Sites' plan for this site. Applying for credits LITHC. App due 2/10/22 Award announced on May 18 Competing with developers all over state Project thought to score highly If awarded Closing Summer 2023 Complete Fall 2024 At least that is my understanding. Nutrition Facts 52 Units Developed by US (gen contractor) OTRCH (owner) 1,2,3,and studios 60% AMI or lower Discussion with the attendees was really positive. Lots of ideas being thrown out about how to improve the proposal. OTRCH will have staff on site. They have developed plans for a commercial presence of on the corner and community members were vocally supportive of a laundry co-op in that space. Flatiron building is hoping to be preserved. The Ace Doran building is not very suitable for affordable housing because it sits on a loading plinth and is not accessible. It has redeeming features as artists lofts, but they don't want to over-promise saving that building. Support for building a taller and fully accessible project (which would introduce an elevator to the design, which it currently does not have). Only ground floor units are Type A accessible units. Folks were supportive of preserving the railroad ROW, bike amenities, green space.
January 21, 20223 yr Was there any discussion about how far back it is from Hamilton? I'd guess a modern flatiron would be too expensive to build but I was curious if that would help create more passive traffic calming for the intersection, as well as more units. Having the public space there is a good tradeoff at least. Also, why OTRCH and not NEST? I'm not trying to get into neighborhood politics, if that's the case, just wasn't sure if OTRCH has a different skill set or mission from NEST.
January 21, 20223 yr 37 minutes ago, Dev said: Was there any discussion about how far back it is from Hamilton? I'd guess a modern flatiron would be too expensive to build but I was curious if that would help create more passive traffic calming for the intersection, as well as more units. Having the public space there is a good tradeoff at least. Also, why OTRCH and not NEST? I'm not trying to get into neighborhood politics, if that's the case, just wasn't sure if OTRCH has a different skill set or mission from NEST. There was a lot of conversation about why it is set back from Hamilton. OTRCH had apparently pulled a scheme that included a laundromat at the corner off the table and didn't present it. There was what appeared to be unanimous support from those who attended. Folks also wanted the building to be taller so it could be universally accessible on all levels, not just the ground floor units. I do not know why OTRCH and not NEST.
January 21, 20223 yr 34 minutes ago, Chas Wiederhold said: There was a lot of conversation about why it is set back from Hamilton. OTRCH had apparently pulled a scheme that included a laundromat at the corner off the table and didn't present it. There was what appeared to be unanimous support from those who attended. Folks also wanted the building to be taller so it could be universally accessible on all levels, not just the ground floor units. I do not know why OTRCH and not NEST. Holy crap, people actually want it to be taller? If this was in OTR people would be up in arms at 3 stories and demand it all be underground.
January 21, 20223 yr The flat walls facing the main drag are kind of disappointing, they should at least have windows if not balconies.
January 21, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, küshner said: The flat walls facing the main drag are kind of disappointing, they should at least have windows if not balconies. Those are just massings. They will have windows and some balconies.
January 21, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Dev said: Also, why OTRCH and not NEST? I'm not trying to get into neighborhood politics, if that's the case, just wasn't sure if OTRCH has a different skill set or mission from NEST. Urban Sites has a relationship with OTRCH and NEST has a lot on their plate already. They are really focused on the Stagecraft building right now, among other projects.
January 21, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said: Holy crap, people actually want it to be taller? If this was in OTR people would be up in arms at 3 stories and demand it all be underground. Welcome to Northside where all the neighbors want rent controlled affordable housing that is at least 4-5 stories tall.
February 4, 20223 yr On 1/21/2022 at 4:41 PM, Chas Wiederhold said: Welcome to Northside where all the neighbors want rent controlled affordable housing that is at least 4-5 stories tall. Truly the Cincinnati YIMBY paradise!
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