May 1, 20205 yr 28 minutes ago, jjakucyk said: Woof It's not the prettiest thing out there, but it's a really rough block with lots of vacant houses and Knowlton Tavern right across the street. I'd say it is a win. And I honestly don't hate it.
May 1, 20205 yr 27 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: Looks like...Nashville. Actually reminded me of Seattle Examples:
May 1, 20205 yr There are also listings up for the new construction homes on Apjones. $450k. https://www.redfin.com/OH/Cincinnati/1318-Apjones-St-45223/home/100984297 https://www.redfin.com/OH/Cincinnati/1320-Apjones-St-45223/home/100984296
May 1, 20205 yr The Seattle examples at least have a semblance of composition and rhythm (in decreasing order from top to bottom). A lot of "developer modern" just splatters windows and materials randomly over the facade and it's usually post-rationalized as "expressing the interior function on the outside" even though in many cases those windows and other undulations are also random on the inside too. It just ends up looking like the jumbled mess that it is. Also this window is triggering me something fierce.
May 1, 20205 yr 3 minutes ago, jjakucyk said: The Seattle examples at least have a semblance of composition and rhythm (in decreasing order from top to bottom). A lot of "developer modern" just splatters windows and materials randomly over the facade and it's usually post-rationalized as "expressing the interior function on the outside" even though in many cases those windows and other undulations are also random on the inside too. It just ends up looking like the jumbled mess that it is. Also this window is triggering me something fierce. Lol I don't have as keen an eye as you. But now that you point it out, yes that is triggering.
May 1, 20205 yr Unoffensive and dense(r than what was there). I appreciate this and hope for more, maybe with some more intentional style and material upgrades, throughout the neighborhood.
May 1, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, Chas Wiederhold said: Unoffensive and dense(r than what was there). I appreciate this and hope for more, maybe with some more intentional style and material upgrades, throughout the neighborhood. Exactly my thoughts as well! It's pretty amazing, actually, considering this is on the same corner:
May 1, 20205 yr 12 minutes ago, Ucgrad2015 said: How are the units split up? It looks more like 4 units than 3. I think the third unit in the row is extra large. That weird appendage belongs to it.
May 22, 20205 yr Major Northside development lands tax credits Apple Street Senior, an LGBQT-friendly apartment project in Northside, has landed a key piece of financing. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/05/22/major-northside-development-lands-tax-credits.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 26, 20204 yr I know this guy...he's insane. He has been longboarding down Cincinnati's hills for many years without incident.
July 6, 20204 yr Apple Street Senior development team, NEST, Pennrose, and New Republic Architecture presented the first glimpse of the project. Meeting was recorded and can be listened to and watched below. I snapped the site and rendering images because I know that's what ya'll care about anyway.
July 6, 20204 yr 33 minutes ago, Chas Wiederhold said: I snapped the site and rendering images because I know that's what ya'll care about anyway. True. That's a lot of metal paneling, but I like how the site plan meets the corners. The only thing that really bothers me is the space between the top of the the third floor windows and the top of the parapet. There's like 10' of blank wall above the top of the third floor windows at the corner of Knowlton and Apple, and it's especially weird when you see the precedents they show with only a couple feet between the top floor windows and the roof line. It's still early though and they might have just included that extra height so when the community inevitably asks to reduce height they have room to spare.
July 6, 20204 yr She mentions an 8' grade change along Knowlton Street in the video, but the renderings don't seem to acknowledge this. A assume that the renderings are hidden line to give them design flexibility.
July 6, 20204 yr I find it weird that it's not facing Apple Street. It sits between a dozen existing homes on Apple and it's facing away from them. I just skimmed through the video to see the different slides so I don't know if they addressed that in their presentation.
July 7, 20204 yr 14 hours ago, Dev said: I find it weird that it's not facing Apple Street. It sits between a dozen existing homes on Apple and it's facing away from them. I just skimmed through the video to see the different slides so I don't know if they addressed that in their presentation. They mention that they wanted it to meet both corners, while also allowing parking to get in behind it from both sides (because of the grade change the two lots don't connect), which is why the Apple frontage doesn't extend all the way down to the existing houses. They also acknowledge that they focused on the corner of Apple and Knowlton since it will be the most visible to Hamilton Ave and Hoffner Park.
July 7, 20204 yr 14 hours ago, Dev said: I find it weird that it's not facing Apple Street. It sits between a dozen existing homes on Apple and it's facing away from them. I just skimmed through the video to see the different slides so I don't know if they addressed that in their presentation. I don't find that strange, actually. I was reading through a community master plan for Northside recently, and the neighborhood has prioritized developing the "Northside Cultural Campus" which includes Chase Elementary and the McKie Community Center and maybe, by extension Urban Artifact, the Hive, and Fire Station 20. Although the immediate adjacency is Donnnelon McCarthy Enterprises and a parking lot, I think facing the cultural campus is a good move long term. As a long time fan, 7-month resident of Northside, I have a few questions and observations. 1) Is there a Northside Cultural Campus plan that makes the case for the highest and best use of the east side of the campus/west side of Turrill? 2) Will a building of similar density sprout up at the southeast corner of Turrill and Knowlton? 3) Wouldn't The Fosdick & Holloway Machine Tool Co. Building at the corner of Blue Rock and Apple make for a really great Apple Street Grocery? Does Blue Rock have the traffic count for a co-op grocery store to get a loan to make it happen?
July 7, 20204 yr 39 minutes ago, Chas Wiederhold said: 3) Wouldn't The Fosdick & Holloway Machine Tool Co. Building at the corner of Blue Rock and Apple make for a really great Apple Street Grocery? Does Blue Rock have the traffic count for a co-op grocery store to get a loan to make it happen? I heard a rumor that the building at Blue Rock and Apple is being converted to condos, maybe with an overbuild. Not sure how credible it is. Supposedly was confirmed by folks at Urban Artifact. Also, heard a rumor that the Ace Doran building across Blue Rock from Hoffner Park is being torn down and that a developer has plans for condos planned for the block bound by Blue Rock, Apple, and Vandalia. Again, not sure how far along that plan is or the legitimacy of the rumor.
July 7, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, DEPACincy said: Also, heard a rumor that the Ace Doran building across Blue Rock from Hoffner Park is being torn down and that a developer has plans for condos planned for the block bound by Blue Rock, Apple, and Vandalia. Again, not sure how far along that plan is or the legitimacy of the rumor. Really hope this is true. The massive gravel parking lot on the former railroad right-of-way needs to go.
July 7, 20204 yr 11 minutes ago, taestell said: Really hope this is true. The massive gravel parking lot on the former railroad right-of-way needs to go. I was giddy when I heard it. Like, I said, not sure if it is true. But now I'm keeping my eyes peeled daily for more information haha. I really, really, really want to see it happen.
July 8, 20204 yr upgrade your precedents https://www.dezeen.com/2019/11/26/works-progress-architecture-portland-flatiron-building/
July 8, 20204 yr 21 hours ago, taestell said: Really hope this is true. The massive gravel parking lot on the former railroad right-of-way needs to go. Is it unreasonable to think that the rail ROW could be potentially be reused in the future as a way to get into downtown? It seems too serpentine to be useful and then there's the wastewater plant in Lower Price Hill but that doesn't stop me from dreaming.
July 8, 20204 yr Cincinnati has already chopped up most of the former rail corridors that could have been used for light rail or commuter rail, to the point where they can't be used for that anymore. The cheapest and easiest ways to connect Downtown to Northside, the West Side, and Oakley/Hyde Park have all been destroyed.
July 8, 20204 yr 6 minutes ago, taestell said: Cincinnati has already chopped up most of the former rail corridors that could have been used for light rail or commuter rail, to the point where they can't be used for that anymore. The cheapest and easiest ways to connect Downtown to Northside, the West Side, and Oakley/Hyde Park have all been destroyed. Just run light rail down the middle of Central Parkway or Spring Grove or along Ludlow/Clifton.
July 8, 20204 yr Spring Grove would be a good route if we wanted to do a street-running light rail system rather than a mostly grade-separated one. It's a wide street, so taking 2 lanes away for rail would be relatively easy, and there's development potential in Camp Washington. It might end up looking something like this. The current streetcar system could easily be extended via McMicken St and Central Ave to reach Spring Grove. Probably a better idea than an Uptown extension, IMO. However, it is a shame that this city has repeatedly failed to preserve old rail corridors that could easily be converted to fast light rail running in a dedicated corridor dealing with few or no stop lights. Wasson Way was originally pitched as a multimodal corridor similar to the Sugar House line in Salt Lake City, but now only the trail portion is being built, and it's unlikely those neighborhoods will allow rail to be added later. Northside and the West Side could have also had dedicated rail or rail/trail corridors surrounded by new private investment, but we allowed that land to be chopped up, mostly for self-storage units.
July 8, 20204 yr 29 minutes ago, taestell said: Spring Grove would be a good route if we wanted to do a street-running light rail system rather than a mostly grade-separated one. It's a wide street, so taking 2 lanes away for rail would be relatively easy, and there's development potential in Camp Washington. It might end up looking something like this. The current streetcar system could easily be extended via McMicken St and Central Ave to reach Spring Grove. Probably a better idea than an Uptown extension, IMO. However, it is a shame that this city has repeatedly failed to preserve old rail corridors that could easily be converted to fast light rail running in a dedicated corridor dealing with few or no stop lights. Wasson Way was originally pitched as a multimodal corridor similar to the Sugar House line in Salt Lake City, but now only the trail portion is being built, and it's unlikely those neighborhoods will allow rail to be added later. Northside and the West Side could have also had dedicated rail or rail/trail corridors surrounded by new private investment, but we allowed that land to be chopped up, mostly for self-storage units. I agree Spring Grove would be the easiest. But I also like the idea of extending the streetcar via Vine/Jefferson/Nixon/Ludlow. You could run it in separated lanes on parts of all of those streets and you could add signal priority along the whole route. Would be a quick ride from Northside to northern OTR.
July 8, 20204 yr 15 minutes ago, taestell said: Cincinnati has already chopped up most of the former rail corridors that could have been used for light rail or commuter rail, to the point where they can't be used for that anymore. The cheapest and easiest ways to connect Downtown to Northside, the West Side, and Oakley/Hyde Park have all been destroyed. I've been wondering about this recently. What all does SORTA own - is OASIS all that's left along with parts of "Blue Ash" corridor (not sure what it's called)?
July 8, 20204 yr 11 minutes ago, shawk said: I've been wondering about this recently. What all does SORTA own - is OASIS all that's left along with parts of "Blue Ash" corridor (not sure what it's called)? and are these alignments wide enough to support double track (in order to run trains in both directions at same time ) for light rail? www.cincinnatiideas.com
July 8, 20204 yr 2 minutes ago, shawk said: I've been wondering about this recently. What all does SORTA own - is OASIS all that's left along with parts of "Blue Ash" corridor (not sure what it's called)? SORTA owns the Oasis line all the way to Evendale but it is extremely serpentine so it couldn't be used as a contiguous line effectively. The Blue Ash line is separate but also owned by SORTA from Ridge Avenue in PRidge to the County line in Sycamore TWP. They also own pieces of this line in Norwood and Evanston but it's not contiguous. Xavier owns some pieces as well. A lot of what they own will be used to get Wasson Way into Uptown. The State also owns a large section by Victory because there was supposed to be an exit there for 71. It's real complicated. I wish there was a map.
July 8, 20204 yr To be fair, the right-of-way through Northside was cut off by I-74. The rail abandonment/consolidation happened before I-74 was built so no underpass was ever constructed for it. Even so, a route via the west bank of Mill Creek following Beekman and State through Lower Price Hill isn't a particularly direct route to downtown, nor is it all that populous. Something via Spring Grove through Camp Washington, Brighton, and the West End is much more advantageous.
July 8, 20204 yr 9 minutes ago, jjakucyk said: To be fair, the right-of-way through Northside was cut off by I-74. The rail abandonment/consolidation happened before I-74 was built so no underpass was ever constructed for it. Even so, a route via the west bank of Mill Creek following Beekman and State through Lower Price Hill isn't a part My grandmother told me that the Ringling Brothers circus train used to roll along this railroad through Northside, park where the self-storage facility is now, and then parade the elephants up and down Hamilton Ave. before moving the train down to the circus grounds. She wasn't certain but believed that the tents were set up where the 1970s-era public housing is along Moosewood, off of Beekman.
July 8, 20204 yr ^^ I figured LPH, Fairmount and South Cumminsville could stand to add a lot of residential units and redevelopment. Obviously, better connection to jobs via transit would be great to encourage this but one line that connects them wouldn't be as efficient as lines that serve them individually. Edited July 8, 20204 yr by Dev
July 8, 20204 yr Don't give DAAP any ideas about a reimagination of Spring Grove Ave. They'll have those printers fired up for a glitzy show at the Niehoff Studio before you can say The-Knights- Who-Say-Nie. I am suspicious of the recent pro-light rail comments that have come from longtime rail opponents. It sounds to me like Republicans might dazzle the public with "infrastructure" ahead of the November election. Also, regarding rail to/from Northside, a real bona-fide bored subway was planned by OKI in the late 1960s that would have traveled roughly beneath Hamilton Ave. from Mt. Healthy south to Northside, then to Downtown via Clifton. Stations would have been at Compton, Galbraith, North Bend, Chase, Clifton just north of Ludlow, Vine St. /EPA, Vine at Calhoun, and then downtown. A network of 4 such lines radiating from Downtown on the Ohio side and 2 more on the Kentucky side would cost in excess of $20 billion. The feds just printed $3 trillion.
July 8, 20204 yr 1 hour ago, jmecklenborg said: My grandmother told me that the Ringling Brothers circus train used to roll along this railroad through Northside, park where the self-storage facility is now, and then parade the elephants up and down Hamilton Ave. before moving the train down to the circus grounds. She wasn't certain but believed that the tents were set up where the 1970s-era public housing is along Moosewood, off of Beekman. Something similar went on down Goodale Ave. in Columbus all the way until the circus did away with the animal acts in the late 2000s.
July 8, 20204 yr 21 minutes ago, GCrites80s said: Something similar went on down Goodale Ave. in Columbus Hey let's show people the elephants for free and then watch them all pay to come see them again.
July 23, 20204 yr I stepped in this place a few times. It was a rough crowd: https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/cincinnati/northside/cincinnati-police-close-northsides-knowlton-tavern-due-to-drug-sales-trafficking
August 6, 20204 yr They're doing speculative tear-downs in Northside. 2015: 2019: 2020: https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1656725/1320-Apjones-St-Northside-OH-45223
August 7, 20204 yr On 8/5/2020 at 10:10 PM, jmecklenborg said: They're doing speculative tear-downs in Northside. 2015: 2019: 2020: https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1656725/1320-Apjones-St-Northside-OH-45223 Not quite. That building burned down in a massive fire. https://www.fox19.com/2019/10/04/crews-battle-fully-involved-alarm-fire-northside/ Edited August 7, 20204 yr by brian korte
August 7, 20204 yr 16 minutes ago, brian korte said: Not quite. That building burned down in a massive fire. https://www.fox19.com/2019/10/04/crews-battle-fully-involved-alarm-fire-northside/ I stand corrected.
August 10, 20204 yr https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/about-city-planning/city-planning-commission/jul-17-2020-packet-1-of-2/ If anyone wants some quality entertainment, the nimby emails & comments about some new houses on Colerain begin on page 35
August 10, 20204 yr 2 hours ago, seaswan said: https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/about-city-planning/city-planning-commission/jul-17-2020-packet-1-of-2/ If anyone wants some quality entertainment, the nimby emails & comments about some new houses on Colerain begin on page 35 The one on pg 35 is insane... She describes how this neighborhood is really noisy and there are problems with speeding and school buses, then proceeds to say these houses will ruin the "very pleasant, relatively quiet" neighborhood. Not sure what school buses speeding over speedbumps and police blockades have to do with new houses coming to her neighborhood, but okay. Then at the end she says the quiet part out loud, essentially admitting she just doesn't want any new neighbors since her current ones aren't nosy.
August 10, 20204 yr My favorite NIMBY argument I've ever seen; squirrels have taken up residence on the vacant lots! It's like a Portlandia skit...
August 10, 20204 yr 3 hours ago, seaswan said: https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/about-city-planning/city-planning-commission/jul-17-2020-packet-1-of-2/ If anyone wants some quality entertainment, the nimby emails & comments about some new houses on Colerain begin on page 35 Looks like they're all from one woman. A real Karen if I ever saw one.
August 10, 20204 yr I like how she says that the City is only focusing on affordable housing instead of traditional housing. If only
August 10, 20204 yr People need to be warry of the work-from-home push. That means far more people will be at their houses 40+ more hours per week and so will witness all of the stuff that happens in their area throughout the week that they currently miss. A nosey/immature person ties unrelated incidents together into some sort of epic construct.
August 10, 20204 yr 28 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said: People need to be warry of the work-from-home push. That means far more people will be at their houses 40+ more hours per week and so will witness all of the stuff that happens in their area throughout the week that they currently miss. A nosey/immature person ties unrelated incidents together into some sort of epic construct. On the flip side, I was able to work with ~10 of my neighbors to finally figure out who had been leaving absolutely massive piles of dog poo all over our street for years now. We wouldn't have been able to do that without those 40 extra hours at home. That said, I could easily see how such a thing could spin wildly out of control. What's next, an HOA?
August 17, 20204 yr On 8/5/2020 at 10:10 PM, jmecklenborg said: 2020: https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/CIN/1656725/1320-Apjones-St-Northside-OH-45223 this piece of work is currently listed at *$450K*, the highest listing in Northside single family home real estate that's not pending. I encourage y'all to click through and look at the floor plans... they're unfortunate. I have no idea who the target audience for this home is at this price.
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